Alot Cheaper Than A BJ Investigation...
Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's three-year CIA/Leak investigation has cost the taxpayer the least amount of any Justice Department probe by an Independent Counsel in history.
NBC News has learned, that since the start of Fitzgerald's investigation of the Valerie Plame leak, beginning in December 2003, the total cost to be reported to the GAO is about $1.5 million.
By contrast, the decade-long probe of former Clinton Housing Secretary Henry Cisneros by Independent Counsel David Barrett, cost about $23 million.
Fitzgerald's office has incurred only about $400 thousand in total expenses above the salary and benefits for the personnel working for him.
The Ken Starr investigation of Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky cost the tax-payer $64 million.
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 9/23/2006
126 Comments:
Why not compare money to results? Wouldn't that be a better way to show value? What has $1.5M bought us?
Thanks for the Truth Prosecutor...
anon -- go whine to your pal Gonzo...besides the best is yet to come...it will be like winning the lottery for the American people...and it's about time LMAO
Wonder if this is that 'hahaha' person that shows up every once in a while?
Follow the links. Interesting reading.
http://elainemeinelsupkis.typepad.
com/daily_news/2006/09/
armitage_is_a_c.html
Hope this isn't true for our nation's sake. It is time to quit selling our children's futures out to pedophile murderers.
Why doesn't Bush just rule that he and his friends can commit crimes and not be charged. Bush should dismiss this case himself. If he allows the constitution and the courts to handle it Libby will go to jail. I always said the fake death of Ken Lay worked do it again with Libby. But when the Dems get control well the DOJ will need more attorneys for all the criminal cases charged to the elected officials.
http://elainemeinelsupkis.typepad.com/
war_and_peace/2006/09/war_on_islam_co.
html
This is super-insane. Congress knows how to count. These guys all know their numbers, magical or not, they know how to add and subtract and they know where the money is going: into the pockets of the very rich who are investing in war. Carlyle nearly exclusively invests in war and former prime ministers and presidents all have latched onto this group so they can get rich if we spend like drunken sailors while at war.
War profiteering destroys empires. This is why successful countries all prevent this. They execute Daddy Warbucks. Or they end up on the dustheap of history. Which is what bin Laden predicts will be where we will sit and rot in less than five years.
Oh as to Bin Laden being dead he was reported dead by the US govenment with kidney failure then of course he did a tape so that lie blew up in the face of this Administration. Now he's dead again right before the election this way to draw him out with another tape so the GOP can say look he's going to attack America vote Republican to save us all. The conflict in Iraq the treats to Iran and all the new terror groups but still Bush is a PR man for Osama. Karl Rove is most likely working on a tape to push in front of the media to push up the poll numbers. The reality for Americans will be when they see the pictures of the torture done to men/women yet the faces will be our troops not the Iraq prisoners. Then Americans will see that they were followed the Devil aka Bush as the true Axis of Evil.
Well, anon 11:06- I believe the answer you seek is called "JUSTICE" -unlike the Starr investigation in which that ole perv was willing to spend bottomless amounts of bucks- because he and the other neow were so jealous of Bubba and wanted to hear the details-over and over ad nauseam...I'll bet you supported THAT investigation yourself, didn't you?
Anon 12:10 yes, OBL called it "the death of a thousand cuts" all self- inflicted...
BTW, Fitzgerald's office has incurred only about $400 thousand in total expenses above the salary and benefits for the personnel working for him.
Doesn't include the freebies...Since his JB's work free- for the love of country:-)
Roger is the anon at 11:06 and everybody knows it.
Fitz fights for TRUTH, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY! And, this is an ongoing investigation...it ain't over yet...so, you can't compare RESULTS yet...
Money to results? LOL Just wait anon... :)
Besides if you want to talk money...please tell me the results of the trillions that the Gerbil has spent...go ahead...tell us...
Yeah, Roger go ahead and tell us.
Veterans for 911 Truth
Read the letter from Sgt Lauro Chavez to the Editor of the Cincinnati Post
"From 1995 till 2002 I was a Sergeant in the United States Army. Not only this, but I was stationed at United States Central Command, which is located at MacDill AFB in Tampa Florida. I was on active duty when 9-11 happened."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14941062/print/1/displaymode/1098/
Fitzgerald given way out of Libby CIA leak case
Judge says he can dismiss case if classified secrets will be revealed
Anon,
Way out won't help for 911-which is where the Leak case leads us to
$1.5 million and one indictment, no convictions. That is an easy one to figure out if it was money well spent.
How much taxpayer time has been spent by staff for this blog which is nothing more than a gathering for far left lunatics?
The far right lunatics gather in the White House and the Watergate Hotel.
Anon at 1:47
How much time have you spent in homo loving with Jeff Gannon, Karl Rove and Ken Mehlman?
PS I hope you wore a condom, these guys are disease ridden!
LOL!
How much taxpayer money has been spent on the filth such as...Ney, Cunningham, Abramoff, DeLay, etc?? Parties at the Watergate Hotel for hookers & limo service?
The voters are sick of the rightwing lunatic corruption!!!
See ya in November...now move on troll!!
It's the New GOP Mantra: We are the most Corrupt, Lying, Thieving,
Rubberstamping, Rascist Congress ever but vote for us anyway!
We'll probably end up behind bars in 2007, but we can still protect you from Terrorists better than the Democrats!
What a patriot with the taxpayers monies and hopfull a big position in the next administration to teach its not the amout of dollars but the decency in person in the position.
lol 2:04! you can say that again!
We'll probably end up behind bars in 2007, but we can still protect you from Terrorists better than the Democrats!
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Anon @2:04:
LOL! You're probably right about behind bars in 2007!!
And, they lie about protecting us too!! 9/11 occurred on the little decider devil's watch...
"A lot cheaper than a BJ investigation."
LMAO
Just bag Ledeen yo.
We'll throw in an extra 10 million in brownbacks. (Buy gold.)
Kathleen
Our impeccable sources reveal to us that Usama bin Laden recieved a postmortem kidney transplant from
Jon Beney Ramsey.
No new target letters, indictments or black fridays for Neocons. Just one lone indictment for a man with a bad memory. That should be worth $1.5 million to a bunch of far Left lunatics that celebrate non events.
No new Iraq plan, no new course and no plan to bring the troops home. Just one lone statement of “stay the course” from a man with no plan. No connection between 9/11 and Iraq. No WMD. The cost will be $318.5 billion on September 30, 2006. Even a child could see this is a scam from this sham of an administration. Bush should be ashamed of himself.
More Criminal NeoCons in Prison in 07!
NeoCons are the worst kind of Criminals and Whores ever created!
S-Q said...Bush should be ashamed of himself
Shame would require a conscience and that was something his mother and father don't have-so how could their offspring? It's a family tradition...*LOL*
The Cost of Iraq War calculator is set to reach $318.5 billion September 30, 2006, the end of fiscal year 2006. The Cost of Iraq War calculator is occasionally reset based on new information and new allocations of funding. The numbers include military and non-military spending, such as reconstruction. Spending only includes incremental costs, additional funds that are expended due to the war. For example, soldiers' regular pay is not included, but combat pay is included. Potential future costs, such as future medical care for soldiers and veterans wounded in the war, are not included. It is also not clear whether the current funding will cover all military wear and tear. It also does not account for the Iraq War being deficit-financed and that taxpayers will need to make additional interest payments on the national debt due to those deficits.
Cost of War
I guess you get what you pay for . . .
3:31
that attitude will make you very poor in mind money and spirit
http://www.infowars.com/articles/
occult/uncle_bucky.htm
Pentagon Acting Undersecretary Michael Wynne said he had referred the contracts "that appear to have anomalies in them." Wynne and his aides would not elaborate on those anomalies. Other contracts referred for review included pacts with Accenture (formerly called Andersen Consulting), Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
Michael Wynne, the one that wanted to zap U.S. citizens with microwave weapons. Hell, is it illegal to be using these weapons in any war?
Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon?
Anon @ 1:47
None, no taxpayer time. Did you mean taxpayer money? None of that either. Neither left nor right but search for where the truth is and a distaste for lies. You don't like it here? - well lots of other places to be. Why hang around if you are dissatisfied with the comments.
Hello you all:
Here are my thoughts:
The cost of Fitz's case vs. Kenneth Starr's case is comparing apples to oranges. Starr's case with Monica/Clinton lasted less than a year and cost 64 million. Starr's 64 million dollar budget consist of hiring outside attorneys in which Starr had to pay before and after the case. And there weren't working the case pro bono! On the other hand, Fitz's case in which is almost a 3 year old case cost 1.5 M which consist of a small amount of federal employees that were working the leak case as well as their own jobs. The MSM do a really poor job giving the public a half bake truth on how much time that the people spent that are involved in the case and how much time that they juggle their busy schedules to work the case.
Everything in life cost money. The real question is what results will be in turn and will it serve for the benefit for the American people. You have to ask: is the billions of dollars allocated to Iraq benefiting the U.S. financially? Did the money and time that Starr spent on the Monica case really was worth it?
The MSM is once against asleep at the wheel on facts and still try to do damage control and give doubt to Fitz's case. And about Libby's so called victory on getting classified documents submitted in his case. What the MSM won't say is that the Gerbil went on T.V. and said that in July 18, 2003, he released classified documents to the public. So, some of the classified documents that Libby has were already known to the public thanks to the Gerbil.
The more this case get closer to trial, the more backlash and distortion by the MSM. And I do know that this strategy by Libby and his lawyers, John D. Cline and Ted Wells will backfire. Both Cline and Wells are still using the graymail strategy. If Cline got his ex-client, Oliver North's case dismissed from the Iran-Contra in 1986 by using graymail, he is trying to use that same tactic will his current client, Scooter. Libby can have all the classified documents in the world including the PDB, the bottom line is that he lied to the investigators and GJ. And the 12 jurors have to prove whether he is innocent or guilty based on the facts not on how many classified information that Libby can get a hold of or how stressful that he was from his job!
That's my 2 cents. Be back later!
http://rigint.blogspot.com/
US threatened to bomb Pakistan after 9/11, in which Pervez Musharraf tells 60 Minutes that "the intelligence director told me that [Richard Armitage] said, 'Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age.'" This shouldn't even be a story, as Armitage's threat was reported as early as September 12, 2001 in Deutsche Presse-Agentur. Furthermore, it's only a second-hand account. What is worth reporting is whose hand it was. This unnamed intelligence director was none other than Mahmood Ahmed, Pakistan's 9/11 paymaster, who famously authorized ISI-al Qaeda double agent Omar Saeed Sheikh to wire $100,000 to Mohammed Atta just weeks before the attack. I say "famously," though it is only to us, because it's one of a multitude of facts that create an alternate map of the world that seems to convey a true landscape, but that is so unlike the one which most people have been dulled into accepting they inhabit.
Where's Omar Saeed?
Anonymous 4:47--"US threatened to bomb Pakistan after 9/11, in which Pervez Musharraf tells 60 Minutes that "the intelligence director told me that [Richard Armitage] said, 'Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age.'" This shouldn't even be a story, as Armitage's threat was reported as early as September 12, 2001 in Deutsche Presse-Agentur."
This is news now because Bush is talking about sending in U.S. troops into Pakistan if the intel is good enough to snag OBL. That was not an option before. Musharraf came to power in a coup and at anytime, he could be replaced in another coup and unlike Thailand, coups generally tend to be very bloody. If Musharraf just turned over OBL, his country could erupt into violence because there are enough folks in Pakistan who support OBL. But, if Musharraf is given the opportunity to say 'the U.S. made me do it' then that should prevent violence in Pakistan aimed at Musharraf.
I would not be surprised at all if before Nov. 7th, OBL is finally snagged and bagged, with the appearance that Pakistan did not help.
Biloxi,
If there's a Terrorist attack on America in October, couldn't we conclude that porkrind(rove) has foreknowledge(October Surprise) of State sponsored Terrorism and is an accessory to plans by this administration for political gain and maneuver ?
I think the JAG should keep this in mind during next month... Think about it!
Porkrind better hope nothing happens here during October...
Biloxi,
Well if this CIA/PLAME case yields amazing results then I would say the 1.5 was a good thrifty investigation cost in comparison to other high profile cases in recent history...
However if it fades to dark with this administration unscathed then not only was it a waste of money but gerbil once again shows his contempt for the laws of the United States..
So Now this begs a question to the American people now:
"Other than a gun in my face by the police, why should I follow any law if my own government refuses to ?"
The results that gerbil is setting for the American people will cause us one way or the other to head into an ANARCHY to which once that genie is let out, there will be no putting it back!
The People are the Nation...
Do you know where your Congressman is today ?
What Does Congress do all day ?
Hi GEF:
How are ya today? :)
That is why I call Congress the "Tuesday through Thursday Club"! LOL
Hey Gef, S-Q
Nice video, I may take them up on the offer to make one...may as well put that extra W hatred energy to positive use;-)
Darn it -it signed me in automatically
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Prissy Patriot,
That's the worse thing you can do is hate the little-decider devil...
He feeds on hate and manipulates through hate...
I rather pity him for having such a narrow view of creation..
I made the post at 11:06 and it was an honest question. I have nothing to do with politics and I know nothing of anybody named Roger. My name is Gerhard Traaske and I now live in Texas. I am 52 years old and immigrated to this country in 1987 from Austria. English is not my native tongue so perhaps I do not completely understand when I am being made a fool of.
I found this site by searching on Patrick Fitzgerald to see what news there was.
You seem like a very close club that talks more than anything. I can get that on a hundred blogs. I thought this was the real. Sorry.
Bush has done so much damage to the world and sitting around and waiting for some knight in shining armor who keeps saying "wait," is a foolish pastime.
I still have friends and family in Austria and they feel like it is Fascism all over again. They are terrified that Bush representing the greatest country on Earth will follow the same path as another Austrian did once. My parents waited too long then and I think maybe Americans are waiting too long now.
Just my feeling as a former foreigner.
Auf Wiedersehen.
Hi s-q.. :)
Hi T.. :)
T, I could massage you no problem...
Those warm oils I use will just open up those tired pores and put a spring in yer step...
I have left women smiling for days from a simple innocent message!
Have faith all..."The Untouchable" always gets his man! :)
We have the BEST Special Prosecutor on this case... :D
Anon 6:53,
quote:
I still have friends and family in Austria and they feel like it is Fascism all over again. They are terrified that Bush representing the greatest country on Earth will follow the same path as another Austrian did once. My parents waited too long then and I think maybe Americans are waiting too long now.
Just my feeling as a former foreigner.
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I won't mince any words..
Your analysis is correct. I'd say leave the country or go through it again...
Howevery, this is only a temporary solution...
Fact is that the whole world is eventually following the US/UK into a Global version of Nazi Germany's Corporatism(Fascism).
That's what the NWO is all about so in my opinion America and the UK may lead the way right now, but the rest of the world will catch up with the signing of the EU Constitution and other Unions being formed now.
It will be eventually be worldwide!
What you're seeing in America is unique however because in order for the NWO to take America they have to do these Attritions against our Constitution in order to destroy it...
That's the only way to force our Union into the planned NWO..
I hope that explained your question.
GEF:
You're such a playah! You offered me a foot massage last night
s-q,
Yep..I'm multi talented s-q...
That foot massage will put you out for at least 14 hours...
The next day look out for birds chirping and flowers blooming...
hee hee hee!
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>I hope that explained your question.
Thannk you for the warning. It is hopeless then?
GEF:
Okay, I'm cancelling my pedicure appointment...how soon can you get me in? LOL
anon 7:31,
Nothing is hopeless...
You know what they say:
"It ain't over till it's over!"
We're not done yet..
;)
s-q,
Ok check your blog..
Interesting from an investigator friend
http://www.prwatch.org/
tbwe/index.html
Yes Geffy, I could use a message...PP is my blogger name-sorry-but I got bad news yesterday that another young family member may be headed back to war...so I hate W today-I think I'm allowed my moments! (I use it in a constructive, rather than destructive manner;-)
To the gentlemen who has seen the face of facsism before...I did a event with CNN in Oct 2004(when I was still a huge fan) and another man there had grown up Hilter occupied Denmark.
I had done my homework on the bush regime -my background is well suited for this type of research-so I have had W's number for a long time.
I told him the short version of what I knew...he was a retired engineer that had voted republican since he came here after WWII. He said he too, knew where Dubya was headed and he was glad to see I was "onto him"-and wondered aloud, looking around the room, if the rest of America was...they obviously were not. I blame the media
Is it hopeless? Well, Hitler is gone isn't he?
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/
2005/12/sembler-for-defense_08.html
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/
2006/02/accidents-will-happen.html
http://www.nemasys.com/rahome/
library/programming/mkultra.shtml
T,
That's right T, eventually this Despot ic regime will also be relegated to the dark time moments in history...
But he too will be gone...
t,
..sorry to hear that about family member.. :(
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/
2004/11/another-timely-alert.html
FORT MONMOUTH, N.J. -- The world will never be the same again. The terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon Sept. 11 have changed everything; from our sense of security to how we get to work.
"There was a plan in place, but we went from 0 to 60 overnight, so to speak," said Lt. Col. Stephen N. Wood, Garrison commander, here. "By sheer coincidence we were scheduled to conduct "Timely Alert II," a force protection exercise on Sept. 11 and because of that, some of the concrete barriers were already in place."
Wood said people on post told him when they first saw live footage of the events unfolding at the World Trade Center, they thought it was some elaborate training video to accompany the exercise.
Firefighters here said others told them the same thing. "You really outdid yourself this time," a worker said to Captain "Jack" Rindt, training officer for the Fort Monmouth Fire Department. Rindt could only express his sorrow while he acknowledged that indeed, what people were seeing was not a movie, even if it looked like one.
Pure evil.
GEF & T:
The waterboarding torture is from medieval times...I went to bed thinking about that last night...and found that I couldn't sleep!! Horrible visions of that going through my head! ACK!!
T:
I am sorry too....I hope it isn't your son?
>Is it hopeless? Well, Hitler is gone isn't he?
So is the bubonic plague but look at the death, destruction and misery they created in the interim.
s-q,
What's wierd to me is how quietly the Christian majority is taking all this as if it's all ok...
The Christian Majority in this country out vote the rest of the people, yet polls clearly show that a good majority of them are against gerbils' policies...
They know Torture is against Biblical principles..
So I really can't understand why there's no outcry from the pulpits...
Even the Jewish Populations know clearly that Torture is against the Torah and it's immoral yet not a Rabbi in sight to condem this...
Is everyone in a coma ?
Has the little-decider devil lulled them all to sleep with his lies ?
..or is this just a delayed
reaction of shock ?!
Fear has them all in gerbils grip again..
Wake up people, wake up!
Snap out of it..
Slap, slap, slap...
Thank you GEF, S-Q, much appreciated. Fortunely its not yet written in stone-but the possibility has been duly noted- thats all it takes to set me off on a W tangent! Grrrr...
However, I won't bite you all ;-)
S-Q, the only kind of waterboarding I would like to do is waterboard some mouths out with soap- whimpy military men like Peter Pace - who tells us the military is obligated NOT to follow illegal or immoral orders...yet follows them his own self.
Pace and others like him speak with forked tongue;-) Some officer-hey Peter should we hope our kids turn out like you someday? NOT
Yes anon, the damage is done-I personally live it everyday. Which is why I nag Fitz to hurry up with indictments-it will take the wind out of their sails-that and Nov 7-but it needs to happen soon or it will be too late. Fitz worries me sometimes- saying Armitage is a good egg-geez, apparently he didn't spend much time in the Bronx;-)
Fear has them all in gerbils grip again..
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GEF:
Yes, I believe that is it!! They have been scared to death with all of this terrorism...and now they're easily controlled with fear!
>Is everyone in a coma ?
Same thing said about the Germans. It was incomprehensible that a whole population could be seduced to allow the atrocious things the Nazis did. But Goerbels was very good. The enemies the Nazis created were the leverage they needed to rouse the population. The evils of the Bolsheviks, Jewish bankers, and the inferior mongrel races all were used to give Germans a sense of superiority. Today, in America, we have substituted the evils of Muslims (Middle East), Communists (N. Korea), and liberalism. Same thing, different package.
The atrocities committed against the Russians were easy for Germans to do as they were convinced the Russians were NOT human beings. So easy to shoot a dog or abuse it without compromising one's principles.
anon 6:53
Quote:
My parents waited too long then and I think maybe Americans are waiting too long now.
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Ich bin genau bei Deinen Gedanken !!
D-S,
I was thinking the same thing...wondering how difficult it would be to get a job out of country.
My background working in American criminal justice probably won't be much use...good thing I can cook;-)
gef 7:57 PM
Has the little-decider devil lulled them all to sleep with his lies ?------------------------------
well, it could be in America.
But in Europ, you hear other Voices.
These government officials must quit commit crime, for taxpayers dollars benefits other programs, such as pay schools supplies so that teachers do not have to pay from their salaries. Also to hire good teachers and terminate Pedophile teachers.
Childen are seeds of the United States of American future!
These government officials must quit commit crime, for taxpayers dollars benefits other programs, such as pay schools supplies so that teachers do not have to pay from their salaries. Also to hire good teachers and terminate Pedophile teachers.
Childen are seeds of the United States of America future!
There's no way that this isn't going to explode soon......
Rudy Guiliani admits hiding air-toxicity, other private 9-11 records during and after 9-11 attacks.
We're in for a bumpy ride.....
contemplate:
subpeona power for the new year...
Good Night Justice Bloggers...
Guliani struck it rich from Security in NY right after 911...
He moved at blitzkreig speed too, as if he had foreknowledge of it...
Now he's riding the money pile wave...
Keep them Terror Threats coming....
It's good fer business...
:)
Giuliani reminds me of the Kingpin in Spiderman comics..
GEF you mean This Guy? hehe, that ole felon. I knew he was bad news the first time me laid eyes upon him...
Fitz, call me next time you need one of your witnesses to be "character evaluated" It'll only take 10 minutes and won't burst the budget heehee (but I can only do instant evaluations on your male witnesses, sorry )
G'Night CC-hey did anyone tell ya its SATURDAY night? heehee just kiddn
FORT MONMOUTH, N.J. -- The world will never be the same again. The terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon Sept. 11 have changed everything; from our sense of security to how we get to work.
well sorry but things have happened all around the world just as bad and even worse......
Americans are not the only people who feel pain..
the deeds on eachother within this rich country and the inhumanity to our fellows within our own borders of neglect, poor health care, destoying the environment, are the things we should be concerned about..
I see 911 as the time Amerca felt the pain of the world first hand ..and our leaders are using the issue to inflict more death and destruction rather than diplomacy to help bring peace to the world..an excuse to raid resouces of other countries..
taking that which does not belong to them..where is the christianity
in that....
Chimp Coulter does not buy into 911 conspiracies and is a neo con yiddish mossad neo nazi hooker agent shill according to our impeccable sources.
Repeal the Patriot Act unless it is to arrest real criminals in the government.. and get rid of the National Security Act that all the crooks hide behind.
Pedophile haven/murderers/crooks and corruption.
E, I agree...Good Lord why do people need to experience an earthquake to know its bad?
From WaPo
Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff plans to take the stand at his upcoming trial to tell jurors he never lied to investigators in the CIA leak case
Heehee "never lied"- ya, your birds of a feather friends are known for that Libby. Hey Scooter, maybe you could do stand-up comedy for your defense fund! *lol*
Vindicated is right...
http://www.v911t.org/SergeantLauroChavez.php
The evidence has amassed to be so overwhelming, you might as well call it a total 100 yard smack-down.
right t..the fact that a person does not take reposibility for their deeds is is the firt sign of a disfuntional mentally ill person..and in my opinion this applies to most in the GOP and the present Administration and the people who follow them..I will say again they are only good at running Country Clubs..create more and take them all there where they belong and can feel better than those around them.....but these country clubs should be built all around Iraq..and the middle class can get back to building America again...
Chimpcoulter,
You should really read this...
Veterans for 9/11 Truth..
http://www.v911t.org/SergeantLauroChavez.php
..thanks anon 9:49..
Uh, hm Vets for 911 truth was posted earlier too. 1:10 pm
But yeah, seriously CC check it out. I respect your disbelief, I said BS too until I looked at the evidence a couple of years ago. Its true, somebody let it happen or worse...
Good evening folks!
"If there's a Terrorist attack on America in October, couldn't we conclude that porkrind(rove) has foreknowledge(October Surprise) of State sponsored Terrorism and is an accessory to plans by this administration for political gain and maneuver?"
GEF:
Porkrind is just given hype to the media and the GOP. By the Gerbil passing that torture bill and tweaking the domestic spying, the Gerbil still wants to continue his hidden agenda and of course wants to invade Iran. We will continue to hear the rhetoric GOP spin between now and November. The GOP are using desperate measures.
"Well if this CIA/PLAME case yields amazing results then I would say the 1.5 was a good thrifty investigation cost in comparison to other high profile cases in recent history..."
Yes, I agree. We all want to look for the results not how much money was spent in the leak case. There is always a price of success and a price for failure. And the 1.5M spent in the leak case will be worth every dime to put the evildoers behind bars. I don't see why people are complaining about the cost of this case. In order to have a McDonald's franchise, it cost 1 million for a McDonald's franchise. But, there are some people who are willing to taking a risk to have a McDonald franchise because they know that they will get the results from their investments. And it is because there is a proven system in place in McDonald that will bring successful results. And so will this leak case. The investment and time in the leak case to catch the evildoers for good will get good results. And the budget from the leak case is peanuts compare to other high profile case including the recent Lay/Skilling case. No want to talk about how much Lay and Skilling paid their attorneys for the Enron case.. And how much did the investigation into Enron cost???
hhhmmmm...
Here's something you don't see every day...
Video:
Camp Democracy Delivers War Crimes Indictment Booklet to Justice Department..
Click Source
GEF:
Interesting...and why wasn't that in the MSM? Oh, it might make the little devil look bad? The GOP tells the MSM, "drink the koolaid"!!
Biloxi,
Not only that but Fitzgerald has had to contend with not only conflict of interest but an Adminstration that's working against him because his bosses are privy to his work before he even presents it giving the heads up to the Administration to counter him at every move...
It's what I call the Kobeyashi Maru for Fitz...
Kobeyashi Maru = Star Trek Terminology for Captains who have to face the "No Win Scenario" in a training exercise and hope to defeat it to test their Command Abilities...
This is like their final exam before they take command of an actual ship...
Most Captains in Training fail the Kobeyashi Maru because the Computer knows in advance their every move....
Only by either reprogramming the simulation or creating an unlikely profiled maneuver can a Captain hope to defeat the computer and save the simulated ship!
s-q,
Yep and forced Koolaid drinking leads to bleeding gums eventually...
hee hee hee..
Kobayashi Maru
Sacrifice is one solution...
Yep and forced Koolaid drinking leads to bleeding gums eventually...
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GEF:
I think we already see the results of drinking all that koolaid...the MSM has gone down the toilet!! LOL
Hey SPB:
Did you have a nice day? :)
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s-q,
Don't forget to flush for that tornadic affect... ;)
The little-decider devil says democrats will raise taxes but he fails to fill in the details which is that he's giving 'rich' folks a break on taxes which causes everyone else to pay 'more' taxes to cover the lack...
Who's really raising taxes here ?
It's the old Cook-the-Books and Tweak-the-IRS-Math caper..
Old as the hills..
"Not only that but Fitzgerald has had to contend with not only conflict of interest but an Adminstration that's working against him because his bosses are privy to his work before he even presents it giving the heads up to the Administration to counter him at every move...
It's what I call the Kobeyashi Maru for Fitz..."
GEF:
It is called in Corporate America: being screwed by the big cheese and called office politics!
Fitz had to know what he was up against when he accepted the position as the Special Prosecutor. it always come with a price of succes or failure. Thar is anything in life. He is dealing with corrupted people who deal with nothing but politics. I am sure that when they did their background check on Fitz, they saw white bread American (no offense) with Irish roots with a squeaky clean record and thought that Fitz can fit into that circle of WH politics. But, because Fitz has always kept his integrity and said that he plays no role in politics and he is there to do a job, that didn't make the Administration too thrill about the Rugby man unfortunately. And because Fitz won't play the game of politics with the Administration, his bosses will do everything that they can to discredit him. Fitz has to be a strong enough person to outsmart the foxes professionally. I realize that he is dealing with people that are up in the food chain that are working against him but that is the name of politics. That type of politics can either make or break you and that they try to find a person's weak spot to discredit a person.
Biloxi,
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That type of politics can either make or break you and that they try to find a person's weak spot to discredit a person.
Yep, and with these evildoers, even taking a whizz the wrong way somehow gets on the evening news and your urine then winds up on Faux trash-and -bash hour...
I hope Fitz has a secret stash of four-leaf-clovers or a shamrock to give him a little luck! ;)
Good Night JBs...
...Fitz has his work cut out for him...
http://www.usacc.org/
United States-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce (USACC) will host a trade mission to the Republic of Azerbaijan for leading U.S. firms specializing in Information and Communications Technologies (ICT)
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/
2004/08/where-drugs-arms-and-oil-
intersect.html
Why wasn't it in the msm?
Yeah right, S-Q, the msm is too guilty to participate.
The tape of them laughing while watching W look for the WMD is ringing in their heads...or should be!
I'm getting closer to writing the brief against them everyday...its in my head- time to put it on paper-so the next time they slame Fitz and lie about the war on the same day-well, that should do it;-)
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GEF said
his bosses are privy to his work before he even presents it giving the heads up to the Administration to counter him at every move.
No, they shouldn't...unless they are illegally spying on him-according to his letter of plenary authority he doesn't answer to Gonzo or inform them of investigation particulars-or tell them who is under investigation so the only ones he really answers to is the GAO-for his budget purposes-and they have no problem with the way he has spent this investigations money.
As far as discredit, wouldn't worry about that either. Those guys have used up their own credibility, big time G'Night All
GEF:
Goodnight and sleep well...
and I left you a question on my blog... :)
"I hope Fitz has a secret stash of four-leaf-clovers or a shamrock to give him a little luck! ;)"
Shamrock won't only do GEF. There is a movie that I saw sometime ago that relate to office politics and corruption within corporate America. The character in the movie had to be clever enought to find someone from the inside (a mole) that he could trust to be on his side. And it wasn't someone from the top of the food chain but lower on the chain of someone that you least suspected. Fitz will be fine as long as he keep strong and outsmart the smart. And I hope you have a good evening.
Encore Post...
T,
NSA has taps everywhere in Fitz office and home...
The Admin sees all before Fitz even thinks about it...(= Wiretaps for Political Gain Caper)
Didn't you read the memo in USA Today ?
Thanks Biloxi.. you too ;)
zzzzz...
t,
Click USA Today Memo
Thanks, GEF! Don't forget to watch Bubba on Meet the Press tomorrow at 1 pm ET.. I am heading off the blog.. I was out all day and I am worn out.. Need to work on my internet connection on my laptop.. Good night, all! Biloxi out!
Holy crapola, No I didn't...
Thanks GEFFY, several things suddenly make sense...those sneaky you know whats. That's enough of that-we need to get THEIR NSA tapes too-and then play them on RAW Story heehee
Yeah me tired too, Night All zzzzz
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Good Morning Kooks!
top of the mornin'
You may want to edit the title of this post. Alot is not a word.
troll alias Global Evildoer Fighter
8:00 AM
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
[Lutheran version of the eighth commandment]
Good morning JBs
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
anthraxsuspect.html
Are we going to compare money to the results? Then I'm wondering about the results of the Iraq war? What good did all the money being spent on that did for our country? The small amount of money spent on PJF & Co. is spent on a good cause: justice.
D
Good Morning Kooks!
Troll at 10:41
Good Morning GOP Cornholer!
How was your night of passion with Ken Mehlman last night?
Did you get each other off?
Now, now anon 10:59, they are angry men- because in their gang it is socially unacceptable to love one another.
Its not their fault, they were born that way-weren't you anon 10:41? Funny how they still want to sit with the kids that want to beat them up. Self-loathing flamers-that's the worst kind...and all that pressure-hiding from the public their gayness AND getting ready to lose the House and Senate by the largest margin of disgrace this country has ever witnessed. Its one thing to be gay, quite another to be a traitor to ones country-and they are BOTH!
End of the New American Century?
In America at present, a completely un-American debate is germinating: Is it time for neo-conservatism's obituary?
September 6, 2006
If political theories have an address, the address of neo-conservatism reads 1150 17th Street NW, Washington, DC. There on the fifth floor in rather ordinary-looking offices reside a half dozen right-wing intellectuals, who supply a steady stream of arguments for the propagation of democracy and a world dominated by America. The little club is called The Project for the New American Century . In 1997 nearly every important American neoconservative signed the club's founding charter. The thinking that evolved here then circulated amongst a group of friendly think tanks. With the election of George Bush to the presidency and especially after 9/11, the significance of the think tank increased, even if the staff size remained small. Neo-conservatism was a dominant force in American foreign policy, and the network of friends had become a network of power.
Now, nine years later, the Project for the New American Century is closing – due to a shortage of funds, it is said. Those that remain there are looking for work. Their ranks are thinning. The New American Century has taken too long to arrive. An ideology is packed up and in moving crates. One couldn’t have a sight more pregnant with symbolism.
One needn't look long for the crisis of neo-conservatism. The magic word is Iraq. The central project of this foreign policy school, the democratic transformation of Mesopotamia [Iraq], has not gone as hoped. Theory didn't withstand contact with reality, and that reality has now swept away some theoreticians. And at the same time, a harvest of new treatises is emerging.
The American military must be used to help assure this breakthrough for democracy: Weapons as tool of moral power and America as good-natured hedgemon, performing a public service for the entire world.
Read this again...closing due to a shortage of funds? I don't think so...come on, their members are all multi-millionaires...I think it has something to do with Scooter Libby being a member of PNAC..
Now, nine years later, the Project for the New American Century is closing – due to a shortage of funds, it is said. Those that remain there are looking for work. Their ranks are thinning. The New American Century has taken too long to arrive. An ideology is packed up and in moving crates.
Now, I have to ask myself...why DID Libby lie to investigators?
Was he covering up more than just a CIA leak? What if the PNAC planned the Iraq war? What if the PNAC wanted to make Joe Wilson shutup, so they could have their planned war?
PNAC wanted another "Pearl Harbor"...which is stated in documents on their website...
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
(See page 51)
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GEF:
Where are you? You're so good at making all the connections....
I gotta go now...be back later..
Here is the link:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/
RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
The out cry by elected officials because Bush was called the Devil because his actions are those used by the Devil. Now Hillery Clinton is called like Lucifer by the religious right and not a word is said about it. Where is the our cry by Congressman Randel and other Dems. Looks like the Devil gets the support as those who try to do God's will are pushed aside with verbal attacks.
Hello you all,
I saw Clinton on Meet the Press. Very impressive. I like Clinton's answer to Russett about the use of the severe torturing method such as waterboarding. He said that as long as that type of method doesn't violate the Geneva and that his opinion is that he would have talked to experts on those type of methods. In addition, Clinton said that waterboarding is a severe type of torturing but military is allowed to use that type of method ONLY if the national security of the U.S. is in danger. It is interesting that he says that because the Gerbil has allowed the CIA the authority to those severe types of torture when it should be the military in charge.And this explain why there is many lawsuit pending and rising by the detainees. We have an uneducated President who was drunk in the military to make decision on terrorism.. I have a feeling that Bubba will be appointed in some position in the UN when Kofi Annan is gone in December.
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