Sep 21, 2006

It's Miller Time...

and I don't mean Judy.

Some of the comments posted on this blog are driving me to drink. ;)

OPEN THREAD - Comments Lite - more Larouche/conspiracy theories = less filling.

Cheers!

38 Comments:

Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

And I agree. We need to go back to some intelligent comments on this blog.

6:05 PM  
Anonymous e said...

Love the tinfoil hat....

6:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And I blame Roger!

Shame, Shame Shame on you Roger!

6:49 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Hey is that Porkrind with a tin-foil...

October Suprise = Rove Conspiracy Theory..

Got nothin but love for him, nothing but love... - Eddy Murphy!

Bwahahahahahahaha...

6:51 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Hey Fitz,

Relax, tomorrow is another conspiracy theory from the little-decider devil..

;)

6:53 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

Oh, is this HAPPY HOUR? LOL

6:55 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

I'll have a soda with lots of ice! :)

6:55 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Yep. Pass me a turkey leg and a goblet of Beer s-q...

I'm doing like the old mideval nights of old...

More Wenches...

Hey speaking of wenches, where's T ?

:)

6:57 PM  
Anonymous gop cracker votes for torture said...

Ga. Republican says he supports "methods necessary" for detainees

WASHINGTON - Georgia congressman Lynn Westmoreland backed away from comments he made suggesting that he supports torturing terrorism suspects, but said intelligence agencies should be given latitude to use "the methods necessary" to get information from detainees.

On Tuesday, the Grantville Republican told a Douglas County Chamber of Commerce luncheon that he "voted for torture" and that "we need to get information out of these people the best way we can," the Douglas County Sentinel reported.

He said Wednesday that he should have "put that another way."

"Maybe I shouldn't have said I voted for torture," he said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I should have said I voted against the anti-torture bill."

The vote he referred to came last year on an amendment reaffirming the United States' commitment to the U.N. Convention Against Torture. The measure passed the House 415-8, with Westmoreland among those opposing it. The U.N. convention defines torture as intentionally inflicting "severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental," to obtain information or a confession.

Westmoreland said that definition is too vague and that he believes intelligence professionals deserve more flexibility.

"I think they should use the methods necessary to get the information from the people who know the information," he said. "We're fighting people that don't wear a uniform. They're not from a country. They're not a recognized military. So I don't know that the Geneva Convention even covers them."

Pressed on whether that means he supports torture, he said, "What's torture? Torture is many things to many people ... people have different breaking points."

Asked whether he would support using electric shocks, he said, "Electric shocks are given to people during initiations to different clubs ... Is that torture? I don't know."

Asked about beatings, he said, "Are you talking about tying his hands behind his back and beating him in the head? No, I'm not for that."

Westmoreland criticized the handful of GOP senators, including former Vietnam prisoner of war John McCain, R-Ariz., who are blocking President Bush's effort to reinterpret Geneva Convention protections on detainees. He said he supports the White House position, which calls for a narrower interpretation of the protections, allowing more aggressive interrogation tactics.

6:57 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

GEF:
You gonna get a "wench slap" for that! LOL

Hey, I was going to post a photo of a glass of beer for you GEF but I am a little reluctant to post photos now! LOL

6:58 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

This is a bit disturbing:

MD-SEN: GOP Group's Ad Claims Dr. King Was A Republican

Absolutely shameless!

6:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/
newsdesk/N21367355.htm

NEW YORK, Sept 21 (Reuters) - President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan said that after the Sept. 11 attacks the United States threatened to bomb his country if it did not cooperate with America's war campaign against the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Musharraf, in an interview with CBS news magazine show "60 Minutes" that will air Sunday, said the threat came from Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and was given to Musharraf's intelligence director.

"The intelligence director told me that (Armitage) said, 'Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age,'" Musharraf said.

"I think it was a very rude remark."

The Pakistani leader, whose remarks were distributed to the media by CBS, said he reacted to the threat in a responsible way.

"One has to think and take actions in the interest of the nation, and that's what I did," Musharraf said about the cooperation extended by Pakistan.

Musharraf said some demands made by the United States were "ludicrous," including one insisting he suppress domestic expression of support for terrorism against the United States.

snipped.

It was on the evening news. "60 Minutes" will have a story on this matter this Sunday.


There was some media speculation that President Bush would appoint Armitage to a key security position such as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Director of National Intelligence or Defense Secretary. As of 2006, Armitage has not re-entered public service.

On May 10, 2006, Armitage was elected to the board of directors of the ConocoPhillips oil company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Richard_Armitage

Who the hell is Art Bell anyway?

7:02 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

s-q,

It's ok, I can imagine the froth!

:)

Thanks! ;)

7:06 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

I'm doing like the old mideval nights of old...
======================
GEF:
So, are you a Knight in Shining Armor? LOL

7:11 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

s-q,

I'm sir lancelot s-q with the silver gear and that crest smile..

que sparkle... *ting*

7:23 PM  
Blogger Nan said...

The new RFK Jr. article on the voting machine problem and the November elections is up on the Rolling Stone website:

RFK Jr. Oct RS article

Nan

7:37 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

I'm sir lancelot s-q with the silver gear and that crest smile..
===================
GEF:
ROFL! How can I think evil when you're giving me that image? LOL

7:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon at 8:25 is a killjoy!

Shame on you Roger

7:42 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

S-Q puts on her best "wench" costume and passes beers around the table...after all...these are the Knights of the Round Table! LOL

And, a toast to the host with the most...FITZ!!

*clink*

7:47 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

anon 8:25,

I don't see the American people doing anything about it...

Until such time that there's a mass public uprising from coast to coast the little-decider devil can do anything he wants...

Unchallenged..

Here, have a beer and relax!

Let Putin and Hu-Jintao deal with decider devil..

7:49 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

s-q,

Aye that's the spirit my fine yellow haired wench, a toast to our dragonslayer Fitz...

May he slay that evil dragon and then make love to 30 wenches before he's found out...

*clink*

Oooh that beer is cold! yum...

:)

7:52 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

May he slay that evil dragon and then make love to 30 wenches before he's found out...
===========================
Sir Lancelot:
I knew the Dragonslayer was a VERY Special Prosecutor but 30 wenches?... my oh my! Does he ride upon a beautiful white horse too?
ROFL!

7:58 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

SPB
MD-SEN: GOP Group's Ad Claims Dr. King Was A Republican

Now that takes the cake how much lower will these guys go. Next the GOP will say the US never had slaves or the civil rights bill. The above statement might back fire as alot of people are still alive during that time. Dr. King a republican right. The KKK really were blacks or blacks hired the KKK to kill blacks. Are the American people that stupid or is it that the GOP just thinks they are.

8:10 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

s-q,

Actually Fitz probably rides a white cadillac but same difference..

;)

8:12 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

No matter, he is still my HERO! :)

Silver Armor or Suit..

White Horse..or Cadillac..

8:14 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

Lookie Lookie who's behind the ad about Blacks hiring the KKK to kill them and Dr. King is Republican.
Although it doesn't mention any candidates, the advertisement is being aired to support Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele as he runs against 10-term Congressman Benjamin L. Cardin for the first open Maryland Senate in two decades. Well now is anybody surpised at Mr. Steele's actions. Some people will sink to the bottom and disgrace their race to get a vote. With this action Steele is saw to lose and lose big. Most educated voters of any race know that truth and now see Steele for the liar he is. Dr. King was such a great and giving man that it's sad to see an African American show such disrespect but it's been done before. Liars come in all colors.

8:18 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

Did you ever know that you're my hero?
You're everything I wish I could be.
I could fly higher than an eagle,
for you are the wind beneath my wings.

Did I ever tell you you're my hero?
You're everything, everything I wish I could be.
Oh, and I, I could fly higher than an eagle,
for you are the wind beneath my wings,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.

Oh, the wind beneath my wings.
You, you, you, you are the wind beneath my wings.
Fly, fly, fly away. You let me fly so high.
Oh, you, you, you, the wind beneath my wings.
Oh, you, you, you, the wind beneath my wings.

Fly, fly, fly high against the sky,
so high I almost touch the sky.
Thank you, thank you,
thank God for you, the wind beneath my wings

For You Fitz

8:20 PM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

Nan,

Thanks for posting the link to RFK Jr.'s article ..I will be sure to share it with as many people as I can...

8:48 PM  
Blogger Night Owl said...

The Tin Man would be proud of that picture.

I missed a few posts. What the heck happened, did Roger find a Mossad, Zionist, Neocon conspiracy behind the E-coli spinach? I've been expecting some wingnuts to blame the E-coli on a conspiracy.
>;-)

9:50 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

Jackie,

We know that the American people are not that stupid to the GOP Black Assn. and Steele's spin on the KKK being founded by blacks. This new smear by Steele and that black organization will backfire. IMHO, I think people, non-black, will be more offended than the blacks. What is amazing is that if it wasn't for the civil rights bill, Steele would never be in the position that he is today. Again, another idiot like Alan Keyes, the carpetbagger, forgotten where they came from and who they are.

10:20 PM  
Blogger the tin man said...

Night Owl I'm just tickled pink to see my new Lucifarian line of hats get some press but I had pleaded with Karl to wait to for the Bohemian Grove bash to debut it.

Now honestly Dear, we need to get your squirrel in my shop for a makeover.

10:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's behind this war?

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=56761

10:43 PM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

a shiny tin hat...cheers all

11:03 PM  
Blogger GEEZERPOWER said...

The walrus was interviewed on pbs today. He said that we know iran has been working on a nuclear bomb for 20 years. kinda makes ya wonder what all the excitement is about?

12:30 AM  
Blogger Nan said...

No problem, chimpcoulter. It's kindof hard for me to get too engaged in any particular campaign when the rotten stuff at the most basic level hasn't been addressed. Paper ballots, anyone?

Sorry for the cynicism but these days I can't help but wonder when a piece of legislation advances quietly.

And if one of my congressional representative's name is on it, I feel nervous and then guilty if I don't spend at least a few minutes checking on it. So, anyone know if this is the exact FOIA bill that the Senate Judiciary has advanced?

FOIA S. 394 - Feb 05 version

Heard the companion bill is still stalled in the House committee. SO, who does and doesn't want this legislation passed quickly and why?

Senator Leahy - can I trust you on this one? Truth of the matter is - if I email his office today, no one will get back to me until long after any damage has been done. Should I take the extra minutes to try to speak to someone in his office on the telephone? ah, life's decisions about how to spend one's time, eh?

Any additional info, links or pointers to analysis would be appreciated.

Have a great day, everyone!

Nan

7:57 AM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

Nan,

I don't know if this helps but this is all I could find on FOIA 394

ALL ACTIONS:
2/16/2005:
Introductory remarks on measure. (CR S1520-1524wi

2/16/2005:
Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. (text of measure as introduced: CR S1524-1525)

3/15/2005:
Committee on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security. Hearings held.

9/21/2006:
Committee on the Judiciary. Ordered to be reported without amendment favorably.

9/21/2006:
Committee on the Judiciary. Reported by Senator Specter without amendment. Without written report.

9/21/2006:
Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 628.


I think it is on the sidelines until after the mid-term elections.

And from Public Policy News:

"Sens. John Cornyn (R-TX) and Patrick Leahy (D-VT), the sponsors of S. 394, the OPEN Government Act, also testified before the committee in support of their legislation to strengthen and enhance FOIA. Asked what the most pressing issues are with the implementation of FOIA, Sen. Leahy pointed to the excessive exemptions to FOIA that have been included in legislation adopted by Congress since 9-11. Sen. Cornyn responded by saying there are no effective penalties on agencies for the failure to respond to FOIA requests."

I can't keep up with the legislation either..it is very frustrating.

8:50 AM  
Blogger Nan said...

Thanks! Seeing Sen. Spector's name on it makes me wonder if this bill introduced in Feb 2005 found its legs in the course of the NSA wiretapping bill "discussions" or somesuch...

Have forwarded relevant links and respectfully requested an analysis from a certain blogging lawyer. Guess we should keep an eye on HR 867...

Nan

9:13 AM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

Nan,

this just in from Rawstory:

"Congressional Quarterly reports that a Senate committee has approved a bill to overhaul the Freedom of Information Act.

By voice vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee agreed to the bipartisan legislation intended to overhaul the 1966 act, which makes government records "more accessible" to the public. Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and John Cornyn (R-TX) developed the bill last year.

According to CQ writer Keith Perine, "Leahy called the bill 'a collection of common-sense modifications designed to update FOIA'" and to speed up processing of requests.

Additionally, per the article, the bill requires the attorney general to notify Congress if a court detects "arbitrary and capricious" rejections of information requests."

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/
Freedom_of_Information_Act_overhaul
_approved_0921.html

9:32 AM  

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