Do You Secretly Lust...
for Sen. Hillary Clinton or Ken Mehlman, Congressman?WASHINGTON - Georgia congressman Lynn Westmoreland backed away from comments he made suggesting that he supports torturing terrorism suspects, but said intelligence agencies should be given latitude to use "the methods necessary" to get information from detainees.
On Tuesday, the Grantville Republican told a Douglas County Chamber of Commerce luncheon that he "voted for torture" and that "we need to get information out of these people the best way we can," the Douglas County Sentinel reported.
He said Wednesday that he should have "put that another way."
"Maybe I shouldn't have said I voted for torture," he said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I should have said I voted against the anti-torture bill."
The vote he referred to came last year on an amendment reaffirming the United States' commitment to the U.N. Convention Against Torture. The measure passed the House 415-8, with Westmoreland among those opposing it. The U.N. convention defines torture as intentionally inflicting "severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental," to obtain information or a confession.
Westmoreland said that definition is too vague and that he believes intelligence professionals deserve more flexibility.
"I think they should use the methods necessary to get the information from the people who know the information," he said. "We're fighting people that don't wear a uniform. They're not from a country. They're not a recognized military. So I don't know that the Geneva Convention even covers them."
Pressed on whether that means he supports torture, he said, "What's torture? Torture is many things to many people ... people have different breaking points."
Asked whether he would support using electric shocks, he said, "Electric shocks are given to people during initiations to different clubs ... Is that torture? I don't know."
Asked about beatings, he said, "Are you talking about tying his hands behind his back and beating him in the head? No, I'm not for that."
Westmoreland criticized the handful of GOP senators, including former Vietnam prisoner of war John McCain, R-Ariz., who are blocking President Bush's effort to reinterpret Geneva Convention protections on detainees. He said he supports the White House position, which calls for a narrower interpretation of the protections, allowing more aggressive interrogation tactics.
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 9/21/2006
84 Comments:
OUCH! That looks painful!!
Man, I don't think the GOP idiots understand what "torture" means. They just don't get it. Torture is torture no matter what method is used. And it is a shame that even detainees that are really innocent of their crimes are being tortured. Personally, the entire crooked GOP Congress should be withheld from their checks and deported to stay at Abu Ghraib. Maybe they will understand what those detainees that are innocent have to go through. They need to be in their shoes. After read the documment by the Red Cross in detail of how those detainees were treated and tortured, the GOP Congress are clueless.
SPB:
It's horrible that some have been tortured to death! Shameful!!
the GOP have just stated saying all the things they used to say behind closed doors...showing what they really are....
In reality, Westmoreland prefers bisexuality. Most of the GOP have wives but they are just for show just a front.
When a country uses the Bush torture policy on our troops we can blame ourselves as we let it happen. When Bush uses the Atomic Bomb against Iran we and let to ourselves to blame. The United States of America is becoming the worse dictator country in the world as we allow the Devil to run our country. Mpw all parties are rubber stamping the crimes of this Administration.
Torture is immoral and for degenerates everyone that votes for it including little-decider devil is comitting cruel and unusual punishment..
Just remember that G.W. Bush(the christian) chose to Torture...
How would Jesus Torture ?!
Muslims respond in kind and execute 3 Christians as violence begets violence!
Torture is something all are guilty of now.
www.whatreallyhappened.com
Thanks to us sitting back and letting the State Department get over-run with neocon spies, and people who love to abuse eachother and muslims for sport.
Torture is the game. They all support torture, right up the chain of command.
The U.S. is setting the example and I fear this is going to get totally out of control throughout the world!!
Now here's a REAL American patriot I can stand behind....
Injunctive Suit filed in the Circuit Courts, to stop Bush from attacking Iran or Syria
THAT'S MORE LIKE IT!!!!!!
Action, take action and put a stop to this madness. The personal injury portion can be demonstrated by, any radioactive fallout from nukes deployed here or any other area.
You can demonstrate full intent, going by what they have written up. These brave people plan to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court.
I suggest that many follow Mar's lead, and start doing it all over the country plus rebel against Congress.
Put a stop to this war once and for all, and join the revolution to remove them.....
Significant damages are obvious: Pentagon will be bombed, many other events will transpire, the neocons will wipe themselves out or simply flee the country.
Anyone left over will deal with a third world country, not just in America, but elsewhere.
Listen to the president of Iran for once, the world needs to hear some sanity.
President Ahmadjinejad: "I am not an anti-semite, I'm for muslims, christians, jews, non-muslims, non jews, non christians."
What he is against is neocolonialism, aka Zionism.
Speak out and listen to reason, the world depends on it.
The Pentagon is acting on sheer emotional impulse, and military objectives.
They are smearing the world who despises their neocon/zionism viewpoint.
Zionism based neo-con agendas are ethnic cleansing backed racism.
This is wrong and all of the above, because there was not just one religion chosen for Palestine.
All peoples have a right to that land, and to displace people or enact racist agendas based on fairy-tale nonsense or the idea there is one chosen group to rule all is detrimental to mankind.
It will destroy everyone who believes in it, because only Satan would say that only the chosen are chosen.
We must bring sanity back.
McCain makes a deal with the Devil
McCain Worships the Devil
Conclusion:
This week was all a show...
The Showdown with Gerbil was all staged! Powell set it up for staged conflict.
GOP had no intention of holding passage of anything from gerbil..
Another Rubber Stamp Moment!
http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/?
articleid=8137
That Bolton's boys would betray Valerie Plame should come as no surprise, considering their consistently vicious previous tactics with intelligence officers who resisted their orders to make the intelligence fit their case. In April 2005, the New York Times reported on several antagonistic e-mails sent during 2002 by Fleitz to Christian Westermann, "the State Department's top expert on biological weapons," who also worked under Thielman.
It's clear that Cheney assistant Libby thought to ask John Bolton about the identity of the CIA's "secret envoy" to Niger (i.e., Wilson) because he recognized that the WMD-focused brief of Bolton and Fleitz meant they had a good chance of finding out who was behind Joe Wilson's trip to Africa. They also shared Libby's neocon ideology. In short, they were people he could count on.
But why, then, did Libby also ask a non-WMD specialist like Marc Grossman? How was he in a position to help, and why did Libby believe he could be trusted with the mission?
Although Grossman "has not been as high profile in the press" FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds cryptically told me the other day, "don't overlook him – he is very important."
Ungag Sibel.
Yeah, give the little devil everything he wants...
Freedom of Information Act overhaul OK'd... Soon... RAW STORY
They really are just plain crazy.
Kathleen
Torture may be worse now in Iraq than under former leader Saddam Hussein, the UN's chief anti-torture expert says.
Manfred Nowak said the situation in Iraq was "out of control", with abuses being committed by security forces, militia groups and anti-US insurgents.
Bodies found in the Baghdad morgue "often bear signs of severe torture", said the human rights office of the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq in a report.
This is horrible!
UNITED NATIONS (CP) - The future of the United Nations depends on a successful mission in Afghanistan, Prime Minister Stephen Harper told the world body Thursday as he promoted Canada's central role and appealed for unwavering support.
In his first UN address, Harper said there's no more important test of the organization's relevance than securing the country, noting the job is not nearly done and will require far more than military might.
"We have responded. But we haven't made Afghanistan's progress irreversible. Not yet," he said in a 10-minute speech to the General Assembly where he also bluntly criticized the sluggish pace of change at the UN.
"If we fail the Afghan people, we will be failing ourselves. For this is the United Nations' strongest mission and, therefore, our greatest test."
Neocons failed themselves long ago, their parents and grandparents most likely failed them--they are too greedy and blind to see.
I wonder if it is true about children being raped in front of their parents so the parents would 'confess'? Would you say anything to save your child?
Who could rape a child in the first place? SAVAGES.
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/
tec?guid=20060921/45120e40_3ca6_
1552620060921-429349665
Stepfords to the rescue! What a damn joke. Laura's a fraud.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/21092006/6/
n-odds-brain-stimulation-produces-
creepy-shadow-feeling.html
A cartoon for all evildoer fighters: http://www.harpers.org/
Final postings:
Rep. Tim Ryan Blasts the Administration’s Iraq Record
He was on fire today as he brought up all the problems going on with Iraq and how the White House refuses to acknowledge them. He finishes with providing a break down of the costs of the war in Iraq, right down to the hour - which is $11.5 million/hour
Congressman Ryan rocks!
Name one thing that Congress has done in the past year that stands out
OK, one more post about the latest New York Times/CBS News poll. There's plenty of data on Congress' stunning unpopularity — the institution's approval rating is down to just 25% — but I was even more impressed with some of the more obscure details.
Here's the list of answers from people who participated in the NYT/CBS poll:
- Taxes 1%
- Prescription drugs 1%
- Stem cell research 1%
- Hurricane Katrina relief 1%
- Patriot Act 2%
- War 3%
- Legislation in general 4%
- Immigration reform 4%
- Nothing 68%
Congress have a 100% success rate on collecting their paychecks and getting a yearly raise!
Good night! Biloxi out!
Torture is listening to McCains lies and watching the Magnificent four sell us down the river.
Did anybody read this?
Libby gets initial victory on classified information. (truthout.org)
Does this mean his trial will be dismissed?
that sucks
Now we shall find out what happens for real with Libby and the other......
iamthewitness.com
David Duke and the rest are criminal elements of the neocon network. They "hate jews" and everyone, because that's what drives up Zionism.
Zionism based racism increases, so long as the persecution increases.
A speech you can't forget
Yes that's all very logical. All the Neo Nazis are paid shills in support of Zion.
This Smith oddity saw that Dukes didn't believe in any 911 conspiracies so he branded him a neo con.
You may outdone yourself tonight Rancourt.
You could best that blaming spincach e-coli on Jews however.
Its not spelled schwarz.
Who is he talking to anyway?
Skinheads are proven Zionist shills, and they never accept anything besides the official story of 9-11.
Skinheads were made to drive up "antisemite" racisim everywhere including the middle-east.
This supports Zionism 100% and drives the agenda for "persecution" as the exscuse. Again all from the same playbook.
Infiltrators and provocateurs just like David Duke, that's the bottom line.
it's not spelled "exscuse"
so the larouchies have the ability to change how our names are spelled now?
fascinating. i put forth the proposition that lyndon larouche himself is a paid neo con zionist shill. you should consider this well roger.
http://www.karlschwarz.com/
Mr. Fitzgerald is way too busy with the FBI working on the incumbant governor:
FBI raid targets county job files
Hospital, forest preserve, highway offices hit
By Mickey Ciokajlo, Robert Becker and Jeff Coen, Tribune staff reporters. Tribune staff reporters Brendan McCarthy, Todd Lighty, Laurie Cohen, Dan Mihalopoulos and Gary Washburn contributed to this e
FBI agents fanned out across Cook County on Thursday with grand jury subpoenas and a search warrant, probing deep into the role clout plays in county hiring.
The investigation, quietly under way since late last year, burst dramatically into public view Thursday morning. The flurry of activity indicated that federal prosecutors are now taking a hard look at clout and hiring in Cook County, even as they are investigating state hiring by the Blagojevich administration and city hiring by the Daley administration.
More than a dozen agents descended on the County Building around 9 a.m. Thursday to search the county's human resources bureau, where hiring and personnel records are kept. Agents remained all day in the 8th floor office at 118 N. Clark St.
In addition to the search warrant, agents delivered subpoenas for documents related to hiring at departments throughout the county. Subpoenas went to county health facilities, the Highway Department and the Cook County Forest Preserve District.
In a statement, Cook County Board President Bobbie Steele said the county would cooperate fully in responding to subpoenas delivered to various departments. Steele also said the human resources bureau was cooperating with the execution of the search warrant.
"I am committed to doing what is necessary to root out any problems," Steele's statement said. Steele assumed the office Aug. 1, replacing John Stroger, who had suffered a stroke.
The subpoenas seek documents related to "non-exempt" jobs, Steele said. Under a court order known as the Shakman decree, those positions are supposed to be filled on the basis of qualifications, not political influence.
Mayor Richard Daley's patronage chief, Robert Sorich, and three other former city officials were convicted of committing fraud and other crimes to circumvent the decades-old Shakman decree, which first applied to the City of Chicago and later to Cook County.
The federal investigation into the city's hiring is still under way.
Prosecutors are also engaged in a broad probe of hiring under Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who has acknowledged being interviewed by federal authorities.
In June, U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald sent a letter to Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan saying his office has developed a number of credible witnesses in its investigation of allegations of "endemic hiring fraud" in multiple state agencies.
Though Thursday was the first public indication that the federal government is investigating hiring practices in Cook County, sources familiar with the investigation said the probe got under way in late 2005.
The sources said the search warrant was issued specifically for the human resources bureau because that is an area where records are concentrated.
The affidavit outlining the reason for seeking the search warrant is under seal.
Cheryl Cato, spokeswoman for the county's health bureau, said agents visited a number of its facilities early Thursday, including Stroger, Provident, Oak Forest and Cermak Hospitals.
"I don't know if they've taken anything," Cato said.
The flurry of activity on Thursday came about two weeks after Steele placed Gerald Nichols, who had been Stroger's patronage chief, on paid suspension.
Steele's actions followed a Chicago Sun-Times article in which a county highway supervisor claimed Nichols pressured him to hire a political ally of Stroger's.
The government's investigation quickly became an issue in the Nov. 7 election for County Board president.
Republican candidate Tony Peraica, a county commissioner, held an impromptu news conference outside the human resources office while agents searched inside. Peraica's Democratic opponent, Chicago Ald. Todd Stroger (8th), is John Stroger's son.
Clearly this is just the tip of the iceberg," Peraica said. "There's a criminal conspiracy here that has been going on for quite some time to falsify job applications, to alter test scores, to hire unqualified individuals, principally from the 8th Ward."
Todd Stroger suggested the federal activity was linked to a motion filed by Michael Shakman, the lawyer whose lawsuit led to the Shakman decree. Shakman returned to federal court in recent weeks to request the appointment of a federal monitor to oversee county hiring.
Stroger said he was not surprised by the investigation, and he added, "I don't think it's a surprise to many people. And I don't know what they are looking for or what they will find."
Stroger sought to distance himself from the federal probe.
"That's my father's administration," said Stroger, who was speaking at a news conference on an unrelated matter when the news broke of the federal search. "At this point, I am a city councilman and that is the job I've been doing."
County Commissioner Forrest Claypool, who lost to John Stroger in the March Democratic primary, said he was not surprised that the federal government is now probing hiring at the county.
"County government has been a patronage dumping ground for years, a place where unqualified politically connected people have been dumped by the thousands," Claypool said. "It wouldn't surprise me if lines were crossed and laws were broken in the hiring practices in Cook County.
"It's sad that reform at the county government is likely to come through law enforcement rather than through the political process," Claypool added. "We've known for years about these problems and very little has been done about it."
Shakman, too, wasn't surprised by the federal government actions, alleging the county has been engaged in violating his civil court order much as the city of Chicago was.
At a court hearing last week, a federal judge allowed the county time to respond in writing to Shakman's recent motion for a monitor to oversee county hiring, like with the city.
"The county seemed to be engaged in the same kind of systematic violation of court orders that the city engaged in, and it seemed that nobody at the county was prepared to supervise hiring to make sure it was nonpolitical," Shakman said.
Hey Fitzie,
Can this "graymail" work? Any comments on yesterday's article from truthout:
"If secrecy is more important, the government can withhold any documents it chooses, Walton said, even though that might mean the case is dismissed.
There are ways around the problem of classified information. Federal law offers judges the option of blacking out sensitive portions of classified documents or relying on unclassified summaries of what is contained in classified materials.
However, experts in the executive branch of government ultimately will have to determine whether evidence that Walton deems essential in order for Libby to get a fair trial can be declassified. If it cannot be, then Fitzgerald will be unable to try the case.
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated from Fitzie or anyone else...
Good Morning Justice Bloggers...
1100 laptops now stolen from census bureau, you know people's social security, personal info, and also they want everyone to take AIDS tests. Could it be they want our DNA?
Hey, they should test the WH and Congress first--it appears they like the risky sex.
Gonzo sure got caught in a whopper of a lie about the Canadian sent to Syria that was innocent. What else is new?
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/
bsidian_wings/2004/01/maher_arar.
html
Sounds like the Justice Dept. sends people even innocent people, to be tortured too.
“It is giving the green light to the Bush administration and the CIA to continue with their practice of rendition.
“Basically they're telling people ... if you're ever wronged by our politicians or intelligence people, you are on your own, good luck.”
The decline of the rule of law i under the Bush administration. National security has been used to excuse illegal wiretapping, a war of aggression, the torture of prisoners and illegal detention. Now a U.S court has given them tacit approval for the shipment of foreign nationals to other countries for the purposes of torture, and explicit approval to ignore treaties and international law. Mr. Arar is seeking justice in a Bizarro land where human rights are rendered null and void by the Bush administration's tendency to find enemies everywhere, and to dispose of them in morally and legally questionable ways.
http://www.pogge.ca/archives/
2006_02.shtml
Grandmanuk, Geezerpower,
I'm not falling for Powell's turncoat song any more...
Fool me once..
Biloxi,
I'm wondering what Blackmail is this administration holding over the Pentagon and the Judiciary...
It must be strong enough to sell your country down the river tho...
They are selling their children's heritage to the highest globalists("foreigner") bidder..
how sad...
WASHINGTON, Sept. 21 — In one of the more awkward moments surrounding the disclosure of his Jewish heritage this week, Senator George Allen, Republican of Virginia, volunteered that his background had hardly inspired him to start keeping kosher.
As Senator Falters, a Democrat Rises in Virginia (September 18, 2006) “I still had a ham sandwich for lunch,” Mr. Allen told The Richmond Times-Dispatch, referring to rules against eating pork, “and my mother made great pork chops.”
He also said his mother, after releasing him from a promise to keep the family secret, had started to find out who her real friends were
Well, like I really care what "Macaca" Allen ate or what his mother cooked!!
Vote this idiot out of office, will ya??
Good morning GEF:
Do you have those special shiny graft shoes on today? :)
Hmmm...but does Allen eat 2 human infants a year like Bush does as Roger and the LaRouchies claim?
Good Morning Justice Bloggers...
Mahmud Ahmadinedschad, the Iranian president's speech before the UN
Good Morning s-q, dream-soldier..
Good Morning Justice Bloggers...
s-q,
Wouldn't you like to know..
;)
Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening folks!
TGIF!
"It must be strong enough to sell your country down the river tho..."
Good Morning to you GEF and all:
We know it is blackmail. I really tested McCain's integrity of following through with Powell. McCain failed. He caved in to the Gerbil. IMHO, there were promises to McCain, meaning campaign promises and financial promises for McCain's run for President in 2008. As far as the other politicans, there given promises from the Gerbil in exchange for support. The Gerbil is running the WH as a corporate business. It is too bad McCain and the elected officials have sold themselves to the devil and they have to live with the consequences of their decisions.
To the Anon:
Yes, I read the latest of the smurf. I am not surprised that the smurf got the classified information to use in his upcoming trial. But, it is only the classified information from the spring and summer of 2003 of the briefing to help jar his Gilligan's disease. What the MSM failed to tell the public is that Libby asked for classified documents of briefings prior and after the Plame leak (which many of that classified information requested was irrelevant to the case.) and the PDB and Walton rejected that in court. But, I am fearful of Libby having classified information in open court which that info can be exposed to the public. That is confident information. We will see what Fitz's strategy is in the trial.
Biloxi,
yep..
This post from Geezerpower say's it all..
Thursday, September 21, 2006
The magnificent four double cross the American people
America legalizes torture; Dems get played badly
G.W. Bush Photo Saying that We do not torture - 11/7/2005
Posted by Joshua Holland at 6:24 PM on September 21, 2006.
This could not possibly have worked out any worse
This afternoon, the White House announced that a deal had been struck with the Senate GOP "rebels" -- McCain, Warner and Graham -- that will basically continue the status quo on prisoner detentions and "coercive" interrogations. McCain, it appears, set up the Dems and the media most deftly, and then turned around and sold out America's values for a few primary votes in 2008.
************************
Well ...the magnificent four lied to us., and handed over the keys of the dungeon to our War President, who will soon have absolute
power to do anything he wants to anybody he wants to. This was an action, meant to deceive, but what can we expect from this administration. The Democrats were snoozing while John Mc'Cain lied to us and then double crossed the American public.
McCain: No compromise on torture ban
• McCain discusses anti-torture legislation
Dec. 4: Sen. John McCain discusses his proposal to ban "cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment" of prisoners held by the United States.
Meet the Press
Updated: 11:02 a.m. PT Dec 4, 2005
WASHINGTON - Sen. John McCain, a prisoner of war who was tortured in Vietnam, said Sunday he will refuse to yield on his demands that the White House agree with his proposed ban on the use of torture to extract information from suspected terrorists.
“I won’t,” he said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” when asked whether he would compromise with the Bush administration. He is insisting on his language that no person in U.S. custody should be subject to “cruel, inhumane, or degrdegrading treatment or punishment.”
LESSON: BEWARE OF POWELL BEARING TRUTH..
BEWARE OF TROJAN HORSES
__________________________
I saw yesterday in German TV (das Erste):
Press statement: Unmasks probably three kidnappers of Khaled al Masri
Three the kidnapper of the new Ulmer of citizen Khaled al Masri, which was kidnapped from CIA agents to Afghanistan, unmasks probably three kidnappers of Khaled al Masri is probably unmasked. After searches of the NDR Politmagazins panorama they live in North Carolina. A panorama reporter visited it with the camera and asked her for a statement. All three rejected.
On the trace of the presumed kidnappers panorama came over the determinations of the Spanish police. Several operations of the CIA started those of the German Khaled al Masri from the airport Palma de Mallorca, so also those of the German Khaled al Masri . After a report of the Guardia civil Khaled al Masri was kidnapped by a 13-person group of agents with a Boeing 737. The machine with the number N313P left Mallorca on 23 January 2004 and took up Khaled aluminium Masri then to Macedonia. The kidnappers brought it into a prison in Afghanistan. The Spanish police could determine the names of all airplane passengers, partly has copies of its passports. It concerns however in nearly all cases camouflage identities. It was possible nevertheless for panorama to determine on the basis the data of the police and on the basis noted telephone connections three of the presumed authors. In all three cases it concerns pilots, who had traveled under the pseudonym Eric Fain, James Fairing and Kirk James Bird to Spain.
The CIA had relatively simply proceeded with the camouflage of the men. The men were allowed to keep their first names, which became dates of birth partly by number turners changed, that date for the regular medical pilot investigation remained sometimes even complete.
All three suspecting live in North Carolina. There they work for the company Aero Contractors, in a case the employer-employee relationship obviously documented. The company Aero Contractors is obviously the actual follow-up company of air America, which operated into the 70's-years as secret airline of the CIA - in such a way it describes the English book author Stephen Grey ("the shade realm of the CIA") in panorama.
In Germany responsibly for the determinations in the case Khaled al Masri is the public prosecutor's office Munich. On request the deputy authority leader explained August Stern, it considers circumstances explained by panorama "so plausibly " that he wants to employ further determinations in Spain. Although it data of the Spaniards are present already now, he will request still no warrants of arrest against the agents. It has "further clearing-up need".
That means it that the presumed Kidnapper with its wrong passports can enter further unhindered to Germany and Europe. Addressed by panorama on it - and thus on the risk of further kidnapping -, avowed August Stern, for the danger warning it is not responsible.
21. September 2006
Here the Spanish Investigation report :
www.statewatch.org
Here the Spanish Investigation report :
Investigation report
Oops..
Forgot the Link to above
Chavez didn't lie when he told the UN that Bush thought he ruled the world. Ahmadinejad didn't lie when he told the UN that Bush uses weapons to put countries in fear. Read the following and notice Bush never side he didn't say that:
President Bush says he was "taken aback" by a report that a U.S. official threatened the United States would attack Pakistan if it did not help immediately after 9/11. "I was taken aback by the harshness of the words," Bush said at a joint White House news conference with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf.
We are no longer the leader of the free world we have become a country who threatens others with destruction. As the world watches notice you don't see or hear from old friends like Tony Blair. France is finished with the US. Russia and China are laughing at this as they work together. Japan will have a new leader who will turn his back on Bush. North Korean President is watching the fall of a weak coward ignorant American President. The terrorist are using the Bush torture bill as a guide for the future. McCain is a sell out for the second time. Congress is so far up this White House's butt they can't be seen. Democrats are folding or not speaking up. Congressman Randel is on some kind of drug as Chevez told the truth about the President and Randel's in denial. Pelosi must be on menopause or in the back pocket of the GOP. Will anyone speak up for truth as the Presidents of Iran and Venezuela
GEF:
Yup! Played and hoodwinked by the Gerbil and company.
And great articles by Geezerpower. The articles says it all.
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Well, I'll be...
Check this out!
Libby Defense Fund co-host Lickerman's fundraiser
Joe Lickerman: the GOP wet dream.
Lickerman is really shown his true colors...
Jackie,
I'd hate to side with that evildoer ahmadinejad but he was correct..
So was chavel..
G.W. Bush is the "little-decider devil"
This will no doubt backfire on them...
Already Norm Chomsky's book has hit number 1 on Amazon Most Popular List..
Jackie,
quote:
Chavez didn't lie when he told the UN that Bush thought he ruled the world. Ahmadinejad didn't lie when he told the UN that Bush uses weapons to put countries in fear.
What have we become ?
GEF
I don't mean to sound defeated but I think that Ahmadinejad/Chavez are smart men. With communications and discussion more could be understood. Remember Kennedy and Khrushchev on Oct. 26, 1962 as both resolved the problem. We need a leader with intelligence to communicate and listen. Our leaders are more interested in back room deals and stealing then protecting the American people. I hope one strong person can step up and lead American forward and with respect.
Jackie,
This is followup on the article about Dr. King. The Carpet Bagger Report website really nailed that article about how Dr. King was GOP and they did their homework:
Here is an excerpt:
Frankly, I'm a little surprised a GOP front-group would even try — if they really want to start a conversation about which party is committed to civil rights in this country, I'm delighted.
Indeed, we don't need to look to the 19th century to appreciate where the parties stand on racial issues; we need only look to this summer to see that the right's racial problems are alive and well.
For what it's worth, and while it's tempting not to bother, the AP did include some fact-checking.
Steve Klein, a senior researcher with the Atlanta-based King Center, said Thursday that King never endorsed candidates from either party. "I think it's highly inaccurate to say he was a Republican because there's really no evidence," Klein said.
A King biographer, Taylor Branch, also said Thursday that King was nonpartisan. […]
The KKK, never a political party, was a racist group of white men that started in the South after the Civil War, when Republicans were almost unheard of in former Confederate states. The mainstream Democratic Party never endorsed the Klan nor claimed to have founded it.
And my advice to the nimrod GOP black organization that put out that piece of trash: Get your facts straightwhen promoting an ad because they certainly have made asses of themselves.
Biloxi,
We had a name for blacks that sold their own out:
We call them: "Uncle Toms"
They've lost their Moral Compass..
Jackie,
quote:
I hope one strong person can step up and lead American forward and with respect.
..and moral fiber and a solid backbone.
However, For that to happen Jackie, Corporate control must end...
It would mean the American people from coast to coast just stopping work in revolt for at least a week.
Not likely..
Ok SPB and GEF I've got a laugh for you for a change I found this and I'm still laughing we all need to laugh every now and then here it goes.
Ed Rogers to African Americans: Yes we were racists–join my party
How many votes will they get from that comment or should I say how many votes will they lose.
Jackie,
*LOL*
I don't know weather to drop and roll laughing or just going hmmm...
If they do vote for him it shows the gullibility of the people, knows no bottom..
GEF:
Yup, that is word: "Uncle Tom." Armstrong Williams is added to that list among others! LOL!
Jackie,
I saw Rogers on Crooks and Liars. That quote should be on every GOP corrupted officals' billboard that say:"Yes, we are racists, bigots, asswipes, douchebags, money grabbing individuals, sex addicts, and have ocaasional brokeback moments but join our party anyway!" LOL!
Pakistan threaten with bombs if they fessed up about Osama being dead for years. Didn't Bush just say he was going to get Osama? LOL, a dead man?
Pakistan was going to spill the beans. Threatened a week ago. They need to fess up to their part in 9/11 too.
Osama had kidney problems, come on. Just like the one-legged Zarqawi that walked so well all fat and sassy! Just like that white, plastic Wal-Mart stack 'em chairs from Abu Graib in Berg's video and the torture videos and Lindy's pics. Think.
s-q,
Wouldn't you like to know..
==========================
GEF:
Yep...Well, what do ya shine them with? Pork grease? I bet those are very shiny shoes! Got a photo of 'em?
I luv teasin' my blackmail luv about his shoes...LOLMAO!
"Yes, we are racists, bigots, asswipes, douchebags, money grabbing individuals, sex addicts, and have ocaasional brokeback moments but join our party anyway!" LOL!
==========================
SPB:
Wouldn't ya just love to run an ad on national TV with photos of all the evildoers? LOL ROFL!!
Pakistan was going to spill the beans. Threatened a week ago. They need to fess up to their part in 9/11 too.
=================================
Anon:
Well, that is quite the story about Pakistan, huh? How can a dead man, (OBL), continue to makes threats at the U.S. via videos? LOL
http://iamthewitness.com/
FlyingSaucers/FlyingSaucers.html
LOL!! Evil f^^ks.
http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.
com/2006/05/ben-chertoff-michael-
chertoff.html
And Chavez was right on the money with this statement in Time's magazine:
Chavez also had some pointed comments on his country's role as the hemisphere's largest oil producer. "Bush wanted Iraq's oil and I believe he wants Venezuela's oil," Chavez said. "But the blame for high oil prices lies in the consumer model of the U.S. Its reckless oil consumption is a form of suicide."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Chavez_says_he_isnt_attacking_Bush_0922.html
Folks,
This is waterboarding. This is exactly what McCain and others rubberstamped for the Gerbil.
Of course those with true sense will open their eyes....
Will the Zionist deniers and Zionists themselves please refute this video?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003
Lets bring this fight before the whole world.....Now tell us, neocons why was there employees inside the World Trade Center the weekend before 9-11 drilling holes everywhere?
Why don't you tell us here so we really understand. Why was there a planned blackout more than 5 days before??
Why did Professor Stephen Jones discover Thermite, triggered by explosives, in the wreckage?
9-11 Mysteries Revealed
And then maybe you want to explain why we shot proof of dust in the towers too??
And why Urban Moving Systems happened to be just outside "moving" furniture and driling in a nearby building?
And then maybe you will gratefully explain why Larry Silverstein said "Pull it" when there WERE no firefighters left in building 7?
Of course, you could obsufucate. But we have real videotaped evidence. Go ahead and argue with it.
Lets take this into court where it belongs. If the "LaRouche" is one of them too, that will be patently obvious once this hits the court.
The Federal Reserve bank has been declared unconstitutional and illegal, by a Federal District Judge.
Why is the Federal Reserve continuing to cover this up?
Judge Mahoney's decision made it clear. There is to be no private banking institution dedicated to spleening of debt via Federal Reserve notes.
There is no private corporation to raise the interest for everyone else. This is illegal, and the people doing it are vampires.
Judge Mahoney's decision is still standing.
"A WORD FROM AN ASSOCIATE JUSTICE WHO KNEW AND WORKED WITH JUSTICE MARTIN V. MAHONEY, STATE OF MINNESOTA, ABOUT THE CASE.
The "Credit River Decision" handed down by a jury of 12 on a cold day in December, in the Credit River Township Hall, was an experience that I'll never forget.
The Chief Justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court had phoned me a week before the trial and asked me if I would be an associate justice in assisting Justice Martin V. Mahoney since he had never handled a jury trial before. I accepted, and it took me two hours to get my car running in the 22 below zero weather.
I got to the court room about 30 minutes before trial, and helped get the wood stove going, since the trial was being held in an unheated store room of a general store. This was the first time I met Justice Mahoney, and I was impressed with his no nonsense manner of handling matters before him. My OB was to help pick the jury, and to keep Jerome Daly and the attorney representing the Bank of Montgomery from engaging in a fist fight. The court room was highly charged, and the Jury was all business.
The banker testified about the mortgage loan given to Jerome Daly, but then Daly cross examined the banker about the creating of money "out of thin air," and the banker admitted that this was standard banking practice. When Justice Mahoney heard the banker testify that he could "create money out of thin air," Mahoney said, "It sounds like fraud to me." I looked at the faces of the jurors, and they were all agreeing with Mahoney by shaking their heads and by the looks on their faces.
I must admit that up until that point, I really didn't believe Jerome's theory, and thought he was making this up. After I heard the testimony of the banker, my mouth had dropped open in shock, and I was in complete disbelief. There was no doubt in my mind that the Jury would find for Daly.
Jerome Daly had taken on the banks, the Federal Reserve Banking System, and the money lenders, and had won."
The fact is, the Federal Reserve should have been abolished right when these judgments came down.
Instead Judge Mahoney was murdered by a cartel of criminal global neocons.
What's really going on here? Who is lying about Zionism?
What does Barry Chamish mean, he knows about the Lubavitch Zionists...
HIGH TREASON IN AMERICA
little-decider devil is laughing at Democrats and Independents because he's made the United States Torture Capital!
Rove is laughing at Democrats and Independents because he's made a mockery of this Country and exposes secrets during a time of war with extremists..
I decided to do some more digging in to that contraversial GOP black ad. And yes, King Jr. was a Republican and so was King Jr.'s father, King Sr. But this is interesting information about King Sr. that Steele and the GOP Black organization didn't want to tell the readers:
Although King Jr. himself made no endorsement, his father, who had previously been a lifelong registered Republican, and had endorsed Republican Richard Nixon, switched his support to Kennedy.
King Sr. played a notable role in the nomination of Jimmy Carter as the Democratic candidate for President in the 1976 election. After Carter's success in the Iowa caucus, the New Hampshire primary and the Florida primary, some liberal Democrats were worried about his success and began an "ABC" movement – for "Anyone But Carter" – to try to head off his nomination. King Sr. pointed to Carter's leadership in ending the era of segregation in Georgia, and helping to repeal laws ending voting restrictions that especially disenfranchised African Americans. With King's support, Carter continued to build a coalition of black and white voters and win the nomination. King Sr. delivered the invocation at the 1976 and 1980 Democratic National Conventions.
They didn't want to tell you that King Sr. endorsed a Democrat and was very active in the DNC!
Biloxi,
Yeah, I noticed that about GOP, they like to leave out the pesky details...
bwahahahaha...
http://www.endgame.org/
primer-wealth.html
And that was then.
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/
int?guid=20060922/45135fc0_3ca6_
1552620060922-2142655854
War really doesn't bring wealth to anyone but true evil-doers. No wonder they would be willing to do ANYTHING for their filthy money. Pity them, they never learned self-respect.
SPB:
That waterboarding photo made me sick!! Very upsetting!!
Why isn't it a crime for our government to torture and/or inflict inhumane treatment upon human beings?? Even innocent people?? How can they get away with this horrible mistreatment of human life??
Check this out Biloxi..Talk about Pourous Borders...
Does Texas now belong to Mexico ?
Texas Schoolkids Pledge Allegiance to the Mexican Flag!
Click Radio
(Scroll down for audio..)
A very wise man, well respected in law enforcement...told me something years ago...
"Those that are VERY wealthy have usually done something criminal, illegal and wrong to gain their wealth!"
He was absolutely correct!!
That's news is gonna incense US Veterans
s-q, Biloxi
CIA to create Muslim Sea Monkeys by using Waterboarding
I thought I'd lighten the situation...
"Yeah, I noticed that about GOP, they like to leave out the pesky details..."
GEF:
Well, the GOP figures that the public wouldn't take that extra step to do their homework. But, it is hurting to use Dr. King's good name for a campaign. He was no more interested in politics but simply humanity and equality. And we lost his wife, Corretta, this year. I say: let Mr. and Mrs. King lay in peace.
"How can they get away with this horrible mistreatment of human life??"
S-Q:
The Gerbil Administration can get away with anything as long as he got the elected officals that is his base in office. In order for people to end the madness of the Admininistration is to vote for those corrupted elected officials out of office! It will not end until the people have had enough! Otherwise, the Gerbil Administration will continue to change the rules and head this country into despair.
s-q,
Here's Fire Torture
They learn all this while pledging fraternities in college...
Biloxi,
Is there no bottom to what these Luciferian GOPs would stoop to fool the people ?
You shall now them by their Acts..
Now explain this one...
http://www.nyclu.org/g_archive022002.html
Rudy Guiliani admits hiding secret documents on 9-11 air toxicity, security of WTC, Zim Shipping, the list goes on.....
If 9-11 was not a black-job operation inside the government by Zionist entities, why is Rudy Guiliani running for the hills with the evidence?
"That waterboarding photo made me sick!! Very upsetting!!"
Sorry that it made you upsetting but that is what people have to understand what snowboarding is! That is less upsetting than seeing the photos of Abu Ghraib or reading the Red Cross report warning Rummy about the treatment of the detainees on Abu Ghraib. Most folks are tired for the MSM and the Gerbil Administration sugar coating what is exactly in going on this country and overseas especially with our soldiers. I've seen worse photos of torture. And maybe that waterboard photo should be the first thing every Congress person see in the morning on their desks. Maybe they will understand what they are supporting.
GEF:
Thanks for the enlighting photos. I wish there more enlighting photos for the day. I notice a 1.25 on that photo. Maybe that is hint of the future cost of a stamp! LOL!
Yup, the GOP will do anything to distort info to win the Nov, election.
Sorry that it made you upsetting but that is what people have to understand what snowboarding is!
==========================
Crap Biloxi! My sons snowboard!!
LOLMAO!! ROFL!!
"Is there no bottom to what these Luciferian GOPs would stoop to fool the people"
GEF:
Yup, and walk across the street to avoid the lightening bolt that will strike on the GOP evildoers.
Oh, and that pic of the fire torture to S-Q. She will send a message to you that that she is disturbed by that pic. But, you know, you have to put something in people's faces to wake up and smell the coffee and take back this country. Those pics that you and I have shared in the method of torturing are disturbing but IT IS THE TRUTH!
Well, snowboarding may be new torture method coming soon! LOL!
<< Home