Open Thread...
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 6/21/2006
Jun 21, 2006
About Me
- Name: Patrick J. Fitzgerald
- Location: U.S. Attorney On Assignment - WDC, Illinois, United States
Think Globally Prosecute Locally - I grew up in Flatbush, kept my nose clean, went to law school. Now that I am in Chicago and D.C. I have found that the rampant graft and corruption to be a travesty - a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. ---Favorite quote --- "Conditional love is an oxymoron." - Yours truly
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Hi guys I know your sleep by now but I just heard from Peaches. Things aren't going good in Afgan and there is a lock down. Seems like the place is falling apart and the terrorist want their land back. Don't worry she is safe but she can't do our daily emails. So I'll be on pins and needles until she gives me the ok. Night Owl and SPB were right that we should tell our elected officials and I did. I mass emailed everybody and who ever is running for office if they don't wont our troops to come home they wont get my vote. I'm mad and I'm telling anyone and everyone to vote for the person who will bring our troops home. Thanks for putting up with me I don't usually get upset. Have a good night. Let's hope tomorrow will be better for all. Fitz I hope your behaving yourself. I know you were right about the propaganda in the Libby case it is so stupid I thought they'd do better at lying I guess I was wrong.
Selamat ja
Hey! That's a Sirian word right? Like Selamat gaijun?! I just realized that. Pretty cool.
Everyone else:
Is it true that they posted Laura anger over Bush and Condi today in the tabloids. I heard that from my mother this morning as I was getting up.
I have been channeling Richard Pryor lately.
Top of the morning to all and thank you for your prayers for Peach. This blog and my friends on it help me get through the tuff times and there are some tuff times. So much is happening now and we have to take back America. Fitz and his team are doing their part now the rest of the people have to do theirs. I'll keep writing and speaking out and yes I will make my vote count. I'm looking forward to a good day and I hope everyone has a good day too. I'll be back later. I know SPB will keep me up dated on the news.
Jackie,
I too will send lots of light and love to you and Peaches.
Jackie--when it is justified (and in this case it is) it is OK to get upset. That's great that you did something about it. Sock it to your folks in the government!
Best wishes for Peaches, and everyone else in harm's way.
Jackie,
I will keep Peaches, you and all of our soldiers in my prayers. Yes, we all need to speak out about this unjust war...I will be emailing a lot of Senators and candidates about the war and the '06 election....we are going to take back our country...
Good Morning Justice Bloggers...
C'mon Fitz ring that bell.
Jackie, my prayers are with Peaches. Did you know military families are meeting in DC this week, Thur and Fri> we will also be talking to those radical Quakers Dubya spent taxdollars spying on.
Leaving in an hour for dc-maybe something good will happen when there-but I won't hold my breath!
Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening Folks!
Happy Wednesday!
Jackie, my payers go out to your daughter and of course and to all of the bloggers who have love ones overseas...
Now, I am still licking my wounds to the Heat/Dallas game. It was a good game and Heats did deserve to win. Pat Riley is one hell of coach. I leave Shaq at of this conversation. But Wade and Morning played a good game. But, I was really impressed with the coach of Dallas, Avery Johnson with his positive attitude about his team and the Heats. He told his team that he was proud of them when they lost last year and this playoff game. He gave them a pat on the back. This tells you that even losers are winners in their own way. And Dalls will be back next year. They have young players but a heart of a champion.
Also, got to catch some of PBS special about Darth Cheney and Iraq documentary. The documentary gave the public a very clear information about who was behind the spearhearding the war in Iraq, the intelligence, and interviews with former CIA employees. Very informative.
Jackie,
thanks. We get so wound up over rumors and counter-rumors that we forget: ultimately, these ARE matters of life and death. Thanks for reminding us that real people's lives are at stake.
Prayers for safety and peace for Peaches and all in harm's way.
From HuffPo, more GOP hypocrisy:(family values, affairs and divorce)
"Last month, The New York Times published a 2,000-word, front-page dissection of Bill and Hillary Clinton's marriage. It contained no real news, few named sources, and plenty of gossip masquerading as political coverage...
Lurking just over the horizon are liabilities for three Republicans who have topped several national, independent polls for the GOP's favorite 2008 nominee: Sen. John McCain (affair, divorce), former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (affair, divorce, affair, divorce), and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani (divorce, affair, nasty divorce). Together, they form the most maritally challenged crop of presidential hopefuls in American political history."
Yes, Grandmanuk:
We all want to know where is OBL!
In other news, from Thinkprogress:
"After revelations that AT&T set up a secret room in San Francisco that provided the National Security Agency with “full access to its customers’ phone calls,” Salon now reveals that AT&T has a “more integral” secret room in its Bridgeton, MO facility. “Although they work for AT&T, they’re actually doing a job for the government,” said a former AT&T employee."
Very shocking...
On a side note: "We get so wound up over rumors and counter-rumors that we forget: ultimately, these ARE matters of life and death." I think that is a true statement. Major of the people in this country are in the me me me mode and not realize what really matters in this world and earth? After being recommended to read Rick Warren's book, A Purpose Driven Life, a lot of people in the country have to ask themselves everyday is what is their purpose driven life?
I think that the word "family values" has been so distorted by the corrupted GOP and the Gerbil that it is truly ashamed.. That is why alot of people don't take marriage vows or commitment seriously.. And the media doesn't help either. They put celebrities like Jolie/Pitt and Cruise/Holmes on a pedatal. Yet, there are average Americans who are true example of the word "family values" but that is not focused on in the media or on the lips of the Administration these days.. I think that the Administration and certain politicans need to go back and re-read the bible where the part that says: You should not judge!
Grandmanuk,
"..she should use it to strike back with the line that some talk about "family values", but she is actually living "family values"."
I totally agree with you, and good for you emailing her! I am tired of some GOP people using the family value issue so hypocritically and acting like they have a monopoly on it...a bunch of BS.
SPB,
"...AT&T has a “more integral” secret room in its Bridgeton, MO facility....they’re actually doing a job for the government,” said a former AT&T employee."
I read about this a few months ago, and I read the actual AT&T documents about these rooms -- it is very scary stuff.
And I live not too far from the Bridgeton location so that was a surprise for me too. Maybe they think Midwesterners are too dumb to blow the whistle, but I think it has more to do with the structure of their network backbone.
Condolences to Special Prosecutor Biloxi on the Mavs terrible loss to the Heat. Haven't been much of a basketball fan since Jordan and The Bulls, but thanks to you I rooted for Dalllas. Very cool playing, loved those steals. However, I turned to Frontline on PBS for the Dick Cheney, The Dark Side, which I was hoping some of you had watched. They made it very clear who is running the show. Even PJF had a small moment in this portrayal. Cheney & Rummy both were in Nixon's Administration, and they made a point to say Cheney's big motivation after Watergate was to strengthen the executive branch...the next chance he got. I also found it interesting that the program was broadcast when most were watching The Finals.
MS in Indiana
The Administration is using words like Family Values, fighting for Peace and Democracy, etc. as propaganda, when in reality they are doing the exact opposite.
D
To Jackie, My thoughts and prayers include you and Peaches. Oh, Bush's follies need to be stopped. All the stated reaons the Bush administration sent troops over there had nothing to do with the real reasons they are there, and there is so much unnecessary suffering. Wishing all a good day.
Not here on the West Coast. It was on at ten oclock at night, I get up at 5 and have no Tivo, so I didn't see it. I had read it showed that Cheney was the power and I'm not surprised. How do you shoot someone and nothing happens? You call the cops and say I'll be in tomorrow and that's perfectly acceptable. Give us all a break and take him down, PJF.
Anon at11:54 pm,
I appeciate your thoughts about the basketball game. I'm over it. But, hey, it was a very good game. And BTW, I got to see the second and fourth quarter so I didn't watch the entire game. You mention about the PBS show Frontline. I am pretty sure that the most of thw public watched the Heat/Dallas game than PBS. But, this tells that most of the public want to be entertained than educated. It was a important piece to watch or tape.. I went on PBS website. They will be posting the transcript of that shaw in 7-10 days to download. Pretty much a lot of what was aired last night I knew because I read about it and kept informed. But, it is good information for people who haven't following this information from the media.. It is truly saddened about people's mentality and their lack of hunger to be educated about this country. I know people personally that will tell me all of the names of the Simpsons character but not know what is going on the Administration and their own country. When my associates look at me, I don't watch a lot of the Simpsons show. Don't get me wrong. It is a good show but that is not in my priorities in life.. I choose to have a real rounded knowledge in education and a balanced life.
On a side note, Dallss will be back next year. Winners fall but they get back up again..
Folks,
More in the news. From Raw Story:
House Judiciary Committee passes resolution demanding NSA telecom requests
The House Judiciary Committee unexpectedly passed a Democratic resolution Wednesday morning calling on the Justice Department to turn over all requests made by the National Security Agency and other federal agencies to telephone service providers to obtain information without a warrant.
The measure was passed by a voice vote Wednesday morning with support of Republican Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI). It was introduced by Florida Democrat Robert Wexler.
Chimpcoulter:
I agree with you. Very scary. A 21th century Orwellism...
SPB,
Off the topic here...Just curious...maybe you can answer this for a very "unlegal eagle"...
There is a lawsuit filed in DC (9/19/05) brought by a Carl Jackson against Bush (Rove, Libby, & new AG Gonzo). It is Cause 42:1983 Civil Rights Act which is deprivation of rights (I believe?) There is a related case in Tampa Florida.
Do you know what this case is about specifically? I know there are tons of court cases against Bush (Guantanamo detainees, etc.) -- but I was curious about this one, but could not find any info on the web.
Roger:
I just read that article! Things are totally out of hand and the DOJ is working overtime on the crime!
Come on Fitz! Let the heads roll!
Jackie:
My thoughts & prayers to you and Peaches. Also, to all of the troops and their families.
Bring them all home safe!
Jackie
Sorry to be late, but the good thoughts and prayers for Peaches are truly from the heart.
Anyone catch Frontline last night?
So, now, PBS says they lied about the war, they outed a special agent (treason) and they don't care. When will America wake up and storm the White House with flaming torches??
jamie in ny
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Chimpcoulter,
I guess Roger beat me to the punch about your question on a case in Tampa, Florida which deals with Cause: 42 1983 Civil Rights law. Jeb Bush has violated the civil rights of voting for sure. I did read the court case of Carl Jackson.
Here is the case:
http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/71960/71960resp.pdf
One interesting case that comes to mind in which he sued for civil rights violation is Rodney King.
Rodney King case
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King
And another case that comes to mind is Terri Schaivo where her rights (in a vegetative state) were violated by the intervention of the government.
Terri Schiavo's case:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_schiavo
It is truly ashamed that the Administration can changed the laws that are for to protect the American citizens, destroy the Constitution that were created by the Founding Fathers, and use those same laws for a political agenda!
June 21 essay on Fitz's responsibilities. He sounds testy and irritable.
Another prayer here for Peaches, Jackie.
When will America wake up and storm the White House with flaming torches??
Uh, never. They are too busy consuming, drinking, smoking, fucking, eating, partying and all of the other things that make a nation stupid, lazy and completely malleable by expert manipulators who know how to pander to their sloth, greed, and inability to tell the difference between shit and shinola.
Good Day to all..
100+ Govt Employees Kidnapped in Iraq...
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Though I hear from Baron Harkonnen(Cheney) that the insurgency is in it's last throes...
What a maroon...
Hopefully Americans are beginning to wake up as they lose sons and daughters in an un-necessary and illegal war. The MSM is guilty of lying and mis-leading the masses on a daily basis. If it weren't for the Internet, we wouldn't be able to get "real" news and communicate with other "independent minded" people easily.
RE: Gov Jeb
I'd really like to see him the target of a "pie throwing" contest here in Florida, before he goes to prison. My attempt to send an email in reference to a Civil Suit against the State of Florida and Mel Sembler (last week) was met with an assault on my computer/phone lines. Email suddenly disappeared and I discovered my phone was tapped. I'm pissed off because our government has "stolen" my vote and is violating my right to privacy on a daily basis. I also admire the hard work of all those involved in bringing the "evildoers" to Justice.
From MSNBC:
"President Bush on Wednesday accused Iran of dragging its feet on a Western incentive package aimed at getting Tehran to suspend uranium enrichment activity.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said earlier Wednesday that his country will respond by mid-August to the proposals presented to Tehran in early June...
...He (Bush) said that the mid-August timetable "seems like an awfully long time" to wait for an answer. "It shouldn't take the Iranians that long to analyze what's a reasonable deal,"
I sure hope Dumbya doesn't get trigger happy with Iran...especially with North Korea testing missles...we have enough messes to clean up now!
SPB-- thanks for the info.
Roger rancourt - Thank God Jeff Fisher got protection! And thank you for your informative and upbeat comments.
D
The Florida DOC has a big problem with the criminal trash it hires for uniformed prison work.
I've seen this corruption first hand at work including the clean cut parole officer arrested one day for a long history of forcing sex on his female charges.
Half of the corrections officers couldn't make the grade in LEO training, meaning police agencies, so they went a step down to corrections to fullfull their bullying needs.
Truly the biggest bunch of redneck assholes I've ever seen in my life.
What a day this has been. Yes, Mr. Madsen is testy and understandably so. But, so far, PJF has demonstrated extreme competence in the direction of his investigation and his decisions, so I am choosing to bank on that until there is some announcement. This is all such an entangled mass of lies and deceit, and so potentially dangerous, that care and caution are necessary. Roger, so glad to hear that JF is under protection. I have been literally dizzy and nauseous since getting up this morning,and believe I'm picking up the vibe of all the foulness. Good God!
Roger,
Hmmm, so Jeb's wife, Columbia, is a hooker? You know, I never apid attention to his wife. I know that she only appears when Jeb and the Gerbil family need the hispanic votes.. All I know is that Jeb's wife and grown children are alcoholics!!!
Apologies if you all have seen this. Frankly it probably needs it's own "topic"
From Truthout re: Rove indictment story
http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2006/6/19/185947/499
Sorry Gramanuk!!!
You posted right before me - same topic!
Folks,
More news:
From WMR:
"According to his Driving While Intoxicated (DWI) arrest record card from the Kennebunkport, Maine Police Department. Bush's date of birth (DOB) is listed as July 6, 1976, which means that Bush would have been only a few months old when he was arrested for DWI on Sept. 4, 1976. Legal sources say this is not a typo but the result of a previous arrest record being scrubbed by changing the birth date to establish a new unblemished record. It is a common practice that is well known to many prosecutors and defense attorneys. Questions remain about Bush's previous arrests, which sources in Houston claim included a cocaine bust in Houston in 1972 or 1973 when Bush was serving in the Texas Air National Guard. Those records were also meticulously scrubbed."
A copy of the Gerbil's arrest record card is on that site!
2. Another Gerbil Burble moment:
From Thinkprogress:
Video: Bush tells reporters European opinion of US 'absurd'
"At a news conference in Vienna today, President Bush told European reporters that polls indicating European residents thought the US was a bigger threat to world stability than Iran or North Korea were "absurd".
Other questions asked of the President and other officials involved the war in Iraq, Guantanamo Bay, and extraordinary rendition of US prisoners.
Bush also claimed that other nations do not understand the fundamental shift in US foreign policy he claims became necessary after the terrorist attacks of 2001."
3. Another nomination by the Gerbil to spread Faux news propaganda:
From Thinkprogress:
Bush Nominates National Review Writer To Public Broadcasting Board
"The Corner is reporting that President Bush plans to nominate Warren Bell, television producer and National Review writer, to the Board of Directors of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). The CPB is designed to provide a buffer between independent public broadcast networks and partisan politics.
But instead of being a nonpartisan advocate of public broadcasting, Bell will likely be another advocate of Bush’s agenda. (Under Bush, the CPB has steadily pushed right-wing priorities, trying to put a conservative slant on programming.)"
Special Counsel Patrick "Fitzgerald's investigation is a unique chapter in American history. The probe has managed to shed light into the inner recesses of perhaps the most secretive presidential administration in US history. His mission is not political, and he will not allow it to be." Many people feel they are owed an explanation of some sort at this time, but what kind of statement could the SP issue that would satisfy the questions and protect the investigation? This simply cannot become political. I'm going to be really reading comments from people here about this.
global evildoer fighter:
I read that article this morning.. The real million dollar question is what is the Gerbil going to do about that major problem? Once again, the Gerbil is still in denial about the Iraq! And what happen if there are deaths from this kidnapping? There certainky going to be blood on the Gerbil's hands!
Roger,
What pisses me off about finding the Gerbil's arrest card and the Gerbil and CBS slammed Dan Rather for his reporting about the Gerbil's military record and then CBS booted Dan Rather out from his job! We all know that the lame duck Gerbil is a drunk, stay drunk while in office, and always will be a drunk! He thinks that there is a 5 step program instead of 12 to cure his problem. That is how delusional that he is.. All the coverup, lies, and pain that he has caused to the American people will come back in full circle! And the Gerbil will get his.. Thank goodness for people like Jeff Fisher that continues to fight about election fraud!
More Bush "Family Values"
http://www.wonkette.com/politics/pierce-bush/pierce-bush-and-facebook-need-we-say-more-182289.php
Them wild Bush family! What a bunch of partygoers and drunks!
SPB:
It's pretty well known that Bush is a drunk - he may be "dry" because he is channeling Carrie Nation right now, but he is an addict and he's passed that on to his girls.
He never dealt with his addiction - he "found" God. Nothing against God however he is not a cure for alcoholism/addiction.
Untreated addicts do not just "give up" their substance. They bury it, they reassign it to other substances, they hide it - but until and unless you have dealt with addiction, you do not stop being an addict. Even with treatment and therapy, you remain an addict and it is a daily struggle.
I'm sure there are many people in this world who deal with addiction cravings on a daily basis. Please don't misunderstand, I am not condemning addicts particularly those who are dealing with their problems.
Dubya is certainly giving every indication of being an addict and as his public appearances appear to indicate, he is strung tighter than a violin string every time he speaks. I don't know what his handlers are feeding him, but this is NOT normal behavior.
Watch his gestures - his head bobbing, his unfocused stare, his eye movements - his garbled speech, his jerky bodily movements. If he showed up anonymously in an ER, he'd be shipped off to a detox center I'd bet.
Just my personal opinion - he's using..no question in MY mind.
I do disagree that he's using alcohol thought unless he's using both drugs AND booze. His physical indicators are way too erratic to be just booze.
Now Cheney on the other hand ... Lots of drugs and undoubtedly a bit of Johnny Walker. The guys in a stupor pretty much of the time I'd bet.
Great bunch to put in charge..
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"Watch his gestures - his head bobbing, his unfocused stare, his eye movements - his garbled speech, his jerky bodily movements. If he showed up anonymously in an ER, he'd be shipped off to a detox center I'd bet" Yup, Basheert. Not ruling out drugs for the Gerbil.. But, his bizaare gestures only means one thing: he is yearning for the bottle! And drugs mixed with his love affair with the bottle equals retarded gestures and giving bizaare accidents like falling off the bike and choking on a pretzel!
Anon at 4:26: yes, PJF's hearings are unique in American history -- but at the same time, they remind me of my long "moment" of truth: watching the Watergate hearings on TV. Realizing that our government was run by playground bullies and other sociopaths . . . "The horror! The horror!"
Protest in Austria for the Gerbil.
Watch the video!
http://news.orf.at/video/iptvpopup.html?vienna_more_demo.wmv
And Cindy Sheehan is in the video!
Bobble-Head Bush, the ring leader for "Bushes Gone Wild" gang, is joined by his best friend, Ambien Cheney, who hasn't been able to keep his eyes open for more than ten minutes in the last decade...and his wind-up doll Menapausal Condi, who swings from seething anger to hotly love-stricken over her boss Bobble-Head...
Reclaiming the dialogue: this is worth reading.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_rob_kall_060621_rob_kall_3a_it_s_the_o.htm
Chimpcoulter, LOL! Ambien Cheney, but may I suggest Hot Flash Rice?
"his wind-up doll Menapausal Condi, who swings from seething anger to hotly love-stricken over her boss Bobble-Head..." Yeah? Well, introducing the new drama: Foringate!
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-condibushbed.htm
Cheers!
Well, shall we?
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/trumpfiresbush.swf
Biloxi,
I'm thinking that Iraqi stooge Ahmed Chalabi is still passing on information to the Iranian Mullah's and I really believe they're responsible for the insurgency in Iraq as well as in Afghanistan.
Syria may be also working in the background...
He's sure to pass on the Info to Opec for sure, which includes the Iranian and Syrian Delegates.
fyi: That lizard Chalabi was in the Canadian Bilderberg meeting in Canada. He really gets around..
Reminds me of the Foreign version
of Otis..
__________________
Chimpcoulter,
A war on two fronts would require alot more fresh American bodies than we have in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
Iranians would flood Iraq like the Chinese kept sending masses of bodies disguised as North Vietnamese regulars in Vietnam..
Something like a Draft comes to mind unfortunately..
They're gonna call this
Dumbya's Folly..
The worst American President in the History of the United States!
___________________
I WOULD DRINK TOO IF I WAS ONE OF THE SPOILED BUSH KIDS...
Someone, somewhere from Syria is almost always working in the background somehow--keep digging around there.
Policy...
"Meet me behind the cloak room later..."
"ok ma tasty Shug..."
Sneak
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Global evildoer fighter:
You must have fun posting the love birds of Shug and the Gerbil. His face shows a thousand words. And look at the way that he looks at his boo... And you are right about Chalabi!
Anon at 6:28 pm:
Funny video. We all need to fire and dismount the Gerbil fron his throne in November!
Cheers!
Biloxi,
Absolutely, I recognise that look from a relationship I had awhile back...
There's no mistaking that from just liking your job...There's a real hotel plan in that stare...
Baby got gap...
Simian Fantasies
*lol* ;)
State Secrets with a smile..
One More..
________________
If it wasn't for these dark shades, I couldn't behold those two and live..
Laura and Condi:
"I know you're seeing him!"
oh oh..
LMAO, Evildoer you are killing me with the Shrub and the Shug pics!!! A picture is worth a thousand words...
Well, I think we will need a lot of humor around here in the next few months...to keep us out of trouble while waiting for Sealed vs. Sealed...and other dirt to be revealed...
Chimpcoulter,
I understand...
Fitzgerald owes nothing more than to do his job to the best of his abilities. Just because a bunch of people are getting impatient does not mean that Fitzgerald owes them a speed up of whatever is going on with the investigation. People are making too much of the investigation anyway. It is not about finding out if (how) the war in Iraq is based on lies. It is not going to bring our soldiers home instantly. I wish there was a Harry Potter magic wand to make the world better or to turn back the clock to early 2003 so this stupidity could have been prevented.
The people at Wayne Madsen can either take out the trash that is corrupting this country themselves, go take a chill pill so they can find some patience, and/or they can take their opinion and shove it. Do they really think that flooding Fitzgerald's office with a bunch of complaint letters is going to HELP??
grandmanuk,
Perhaps not but the preponderance sure points to it..
From many directions...
Perhaps that is the main problem..
"National Security would be Compromised!"
Because we're not just dealing with the Gerbil and Gang. We're dealing with Foreign policy and they don't take kindly to sending their troops to die in the desert so the yanks can drive policy to ensure that it can dominate a region and secure scarce global resources as well as entrench itself to stop the destruction of Israel.
but I'm just extrapolating from facts on the ground from several whistleblowers...
I'm sure there's even more..
June 21, 2006 -- WMR has spoken to a number of informed individuals about the current status of the Patrick Fitzgerald criminal probe of CIA "Leakgate." Legal experts wonder why Fitzgerald is even fooling around with a Grand Jury when the evidence of criminal wrongdoing cited by Judge David Tatel of the US District Court for the District of Columbia in the Scooter Libby matter appears extremely damaging to national security. In a February 2005 decision on the Grand Jury subpoena of reporters Judith Miller and Matt Cooper, Judge Tatel wrote, "the special counsel refers to Plame as 'a person whose identity the CIA was making specific efforts to conceal and who had carried out covert work overseas within the last five years' -- representations I trust the special counsel would not make without support. (8/27/04 Aff. at 28 n.15.)."
With such damage to national security already well established by the evidence collected by early 2005, legal experts say that Fitzgerald could have bypassed the Grand Jury process and filed a complaint, also known as an "information," with a Federal circuit court judge. Fitzgerald could have told the judge that sufficient evidence existed that a crime or crimes was/were committed, that this evidence was sufficient for a regular jury to consider, and requested that an arrest warrant or warrants be issued. Similarly, a Grand Jury can also file an information regardless of the wishes of the special prosecutor. The Grand Jury also has the power to subpoena any relevant document, including the diaries of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
Which brings us to what kind of 11th hour deal was worked out between Fitzgerald and Karl Rove's attorney Robert Luskin. On June 12, Luskin was faxed a letter from Fitzgerald stating that the special prosecutor "does not anticipate seeking charges against Karl Rove." There is much speculation among legal experts that Rove and Luskin worked out a cooperation agreement with the prosecutor in lieu of pressing ahead with an indictment. There is also a belief that the largely African-American Grand Jury, already hostile to the Bush administration, issued a True Bill (an indictment) against Rove on its own (in what is called a "runaway Grand Jury") without prompting from Fitzgerald and that this indictment remains sealed pending the outcome of Rove's cooperativeness with the prosecutor.
Whatever is the case at this point, it is clear, in the minds of legal experts, that Fitzgerald owes the American public some information on the progress of this case. With America's constitutional government hanging by a thread, legal experts reason that, above all, Fitzgerald owes some information to the American people and particularly to the next of kin of those Americans who have died in Iraq. After all, the entire leak matter was caused by White House retaliation against Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his covert CIA wife over the Bush administration being called to task over their lies about the "danger" from Iraq. Fitzgerald has been portrayed by the media as a crime fighting Elliott Ness-type from Chicago. In actuality, Fitzgerald is a prosecutor who should be looking out for the public interest, not engaging in a legal chess match with the likes of Rove and Luskin. And it is to the public he remains answerable. The public's patience in the CIA Leakgate is not infinite and we suggest that the families of those killed or maimed in Iraq send a letter to Mr. Fitzgerald demanding an update on a criminal case that directly resulted in the losses of their loved ones.
Patrick J. Fitzgerald
Office of Special Counsel
Bond Federal Building
1400 New York Avenue, NW, Ninth Floor
Washington D.C. 20530
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
Which means that a coalition for a future Dumbya/Harkonen War will not be possible.
Our allies have figured it out and they want anything to do with any more misadventures...
British Parliament wants to string Blair by the gonads...
they don't want I meant...
Anyone else see some parallels?
http://allafrica.com/stories/200606210599.html
Does Charles Taylor need some bunkmates? ;-)
SPB--Tracking down the whereabouts of Charles Taylor actually fits under Night Owl's real employment and getting real work done, not horsing around. >;-)
Global Evildoer Fighter....
Condi/W/Laura pics are great!
Interesting Read: Bush Resume on Rense.com.
RE: Mad King George in Europe
The only thing "absurd" at the Vienna news conference today was the "Thief in Chief" from the USA.
Yes, PJF doesn't owe anyone an explanation. And Wayne Madsen should get over himself...PJF knows what he is doing, and we need to wait for the process to play out...I'm sure the WH gang are messing with this case big time. I have faith in PJF.
It will take many people to expose the corruption that is going on these days in our country. And anyone that wants to complain about PJF -- should get off their fat arses and do something themselves!
Go Team Fitzie!
"Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation is a unique chapter in American history. The probe has managed to shed light into the inner recesses of perhaps the most secretive presidential administration in US history. His mission is not political, and he will not allow it to be." That is from the Truthout piece from 6/19. I posted about this at 4:26, and I agree, Patrick Fitzgerald has no obligation, except to pursuing the investigation wherever it leads, and there are so many tangled leads in unsafe territory, that we need for him to take all the time it takes. (And I am sure he is getting input from people we wouldn't imagine in 1000 years would be helping him, and that it will all be known in the end.) The results will be worth it, no matter what they are because they will be rooted in truth. I have to say I have complete confidence in Mr. Fitzgerald and that is rare for me, especially w/someone I don't know, have never met and probably never will meet. And I'm not a lawyer, but I know that following the letter and spirit of the law is not a linear process and it is often necessary to make tradeoffs to get to the source of the issue, in this case what is a clearly prosecutable offense that is THE offense to be prosecuted. (Probably a few hundred he go could for along the way.) Waiting is just fine with me. I skimmed through the comments at the end quickly, but whoever suggested Madsen take a chill pill, I'm with you.
Thank you to all my blog family and it worked. I had Peaches buy a labtop and she can use it while she can't use the govenment computer. So she emailed me and she's ok. I love you guys you made me feel so good. words can't express my thanks. I wish I could hug all of you. So don't worry Peach is ok and she made me laugh.
Now we know where Saddam had the WMD. They were in Pennsylvania so
says Congressman Rick Santorum. This man is good he can find what doesn't exist and say it with a straight face.
WMR had a link last week that if you followed, you would get the "picture" of why he is so upset.
I suggest we pray for ALL the good people trying to make a differnce in all this evil.
Miss Jackie, I'm praying for all your "kids". Take care of yourself, we need you.
Hello, Teak,
Do you have the link re: the reason Madsen is so upset, or would you be willing to briefly sum it up? I would like to understand.
And to Jackie, you and Peaches have been in my thoughts through the day, and I am glad you have been able to find a way to stay in touch with each other. Sending you light and best wishes.
I wrote the chill pill thing. I was in a hurry and I about busted a gasket when I saw the Madsen stuff.
I usually don't tell people to shove it either, but I meant it.
Night Owl:
Hmmm: Yup,Charles Taylor is no different than King Gerbil. Both are axis of evil: "Former President Taylor is among 13 suspects who were indicted. There was an 11-count indictment of war crimes and crimes against humanity him." I wonder how many indictment will the Gerbil get?
Hmmmm. "Special Court's acting prosecutor Christopher Staker had said at the press conference in the conference room of the registrar of the Special Court that although "the court is playing its role in the region and it is important that people in the region know and take an interest ",
Sounds like the future case of the U.S. Vs. The Gerbil or Chippendale Cheney real soon...
E:
Thanks for the article of WMR. Another spin from WMR. Seems many of the journalists think they have all the amswers to the leak case or what Fitz is doing.
Global Evildoer Fighter:
You should have own show on Comedy Central. LMAO! Shug and Shrub.. What a lovely couple.. He sure looked like he was smitten by his boo...
This picture was blown up more when I seen it.
http://www.insider-magazine.com/
SPB--Similar yes. Taylor started a war without a good, solid reason. But, Taylor is going to The Hague. That would be 'The World' vs. Taylor.
The World vs. Gerbil probably will not happen, but I think if it did, it could fit under the jurisdiction of the World Court.
So, Iran saber rattles and they get talks and North Korea rattles sabers and they do not get talks. Hmm, I wonder which country has oil . . . .
Folks,
This is the joke of the day. Check out this article. Guess what? the GOP found the WMD!
Republican Congress members claim that evidence of Saddam's WMD have been identified
Republican Congress members claimed late today that evidence of weapons of mass destruction hidden by Saddam Hussein had at last been identified in Iraq.
Speaking at a late afternoon press conference, Michigan Rep. Pete Hoekstra, Chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence, spoke with Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum. They claimed that 500 chemical weapons shells allegedly containing degraded sarin or mustard gas have been recovered by coalition forces since 2003, and that other filled and unfilled munitions have been found.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Republican_Congress_members_claimed_that_evidence_0621.html
And is happening to be the GOP Congress only to discover this??? Please... And all of the sudden that found this new found information just only a few months before the November election. If this is true, then I spotted Bin Laden getting 10 dented cans of tuna for a buck at the bluelight special at Kmart! What idiots!
Night Owl:
"Hmm, I wonder which country has oil" Yup! It is all about the oil and profits. Just ask ex-CIA officer Robert Baer. He can really parallel at lot of the the Gerbil and company's agenda and oil companies, and the Saudias from his experiences overseas...
Final posting:
Did the Gerbil deface the American flag?
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/06/did-george-bush-deface-american-flags.html
Have a good evening folks! Signing off!
Was that a bird? An airplane?
It was SuperBiloximan...
Hey you didn't hang up your tights tonight! (He must be planning a late night flight~!) LOL
Sorry I missed you but rest well
SuperBiloximan! :)
global evildoer fighter :
Those photos were too funny! OMG! Shug and Shrub!
Biloxi
Naw, Comedy Central couldn't afford me! ;)
Yes I promise to leave the Robot ma sweet tasty Brown Shug..
Good night all...
hmmm, perhaps I shouldn't have posted that so close to bedtime... Might give me court nightmares.. :O
this blog has been hijacked by bizarre lunatics.
fairly worthless to even check now.
s-q,
thanks...
Laughter is an important food group! ;)
Fitz's wings have been clipped. Nothing more of great significance coming out of his investigation.
global evildoer fighter:
Yes, we all need laughter! Smiles help too! Too many evildoer's that like to frown, smirk and growl.
Roger:
A new dawn is coming and it reminds me of this song:
Aquarius--
When the moon is in the seventh house
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
The peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
Age of Aquarius
Aquarius, Aquarius
Harmony and understanding, sympathy and trust abounding
No more false hoods or derisions, golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revelations, and the mind's true liberations
Aquarius, Aquarius
When the moon is in the seventh house
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
The peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
Age of Aquarius
Aquarius, Aquarius
Aquarius
Let the sunshine, let the sunshine in
He he...
Nothing scares a Neocon more than to imagine being in a dirty prison with big hairy guys that actually went to war all looking to make him their girlfriend!
Let's play spin the Neocon and whoever he points to gets to be his bunkmate for the evenin..
:)
bluewild,
I've had a name for it for quite some time now..
I call it..
"Bizarro world"
Were good is bad and bad is good...
Good is repaid with evil and evil triumphs all the time...
Welcome to Bizarro world...
Bizarro Speaks
Bluewild said:
"What is next? Mad Max?"
That is strange because I just saw someone is using that new monkier, "Mad Max", on another website!
Maybe Wayne Madsen's upset that Leopold is hanging in the rafters and he may feel that he may be next...
Silence is Golden!
shhh... ;)
Someone who really knows nothing can speculate. But if someone has real information, it might be best to maintain it privately, also a sign of maturity. "This post deleted by the author." Prudence rules!
That is why I said we should pray for all people trying to do good, (unless I'm missing something on WM).
Blowback from years and people will have questions and be impatient with trust issues. JMO.
I know Miss Jackie considers Mr. Fitz to be one of her kids, I pray for him and all his team, anyone who has stepped up to help fight this evil to be safe. I cannot imagine what it must be like for Team Fitz. What courage, wisdom and dignity. Thank you.
President Kennedy's recent released speech about the media and the 'elite' controlling everything comes to mind, maybe Wayne is trying to cram a whole lot of duty every which way. Thank you to a reporter who is at least trying to do something.
Jackie,
Great to hear Peaches is okay and that you now have good commmunication via a new laptop...I will keep her in my prayers...
A friend of mine, a National Guardsman, spent a year and a half in Iraq. We kept in touch, and I sent him packages. I prayed for him dialy, and I was so grateful that he made it home safely. The pictures from Iraq, and knowing he was in harms way really brought the war home to me daily.
Thank you for sharing about Peaches...it brings the real human element to all of us as we discuss the war and policies...we must not forget one single soul fighting for our country.
Good Morning Justice Bloggers...
Couldn't part of their "strategy" be to silence people trying to report the truth? What good does that do? Then aren't we pawns?
Elees,
I did not understand you comment about disliking someone. Should I go way back in this blog? Isn't everyone just expressing opinions after all?
Yesterday Senator Hagel (Republican -NE) made these comments on the Senate floor about GOP members using political spin on the Iraq War debate.
From CSPAN transcript: "This debate should transcend cynical attempts to turn public frustration with the war in Iraq into an electoral advantage. It should be taken more seriously than to simply retreat into focus-group tested buzz words and phrases like “cut and run,” catchy political slogans that debase the seriousness of war. War’s not a partisan issue, Mr. President. It should not be held hostage to political agendas. War should not be drug down into the political muck. America deserves better. Our men and women fighting and dying deserve better. "
Amen to Senator Hagel for having the guts to speak out! It is outrageous to use these inflammatory deceptive spin words for political purposes when 2,500 soldiers have been killed and thousands severely maimed. The political spin does not serve our troops or our country.
A serious debate needs to occur. We cannot go on indefinitely without a realistic plan that is bipartisan. Shame on any politician from either party that would use this debate for their political purposes!
Of course Senator Hagel doesn't need to use spin to get elected because he owns the Voting Machines...
From The Scoop in 2003, by Bev Harris:
"On October, 10, 2002 Bev Harris, author of the upcoming “Black Box Voting: Ballot-Tampering” in the 21st Century, revealed that Republican Senator Chuck Hagel has ties to the largest voting machine company, Election Systems & Software (ES&S). She reported that he was an owner, Chairman and CEO of Election Systems & Software (called American Information Systems until name change filed in 1997). ES&S was the ONLY company whose machines counted Hagel’s votes when he ran for election in 1996 and 2002. The Hill, a Washington D.C. newspaper that covers the U.S. national political scene, confirmed her findings today and uncovered more details."
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/
HL0301/S00166.htm
From MSNBC:
Karzai says 600 Afghan deaths 'not acceptable'
Demands new approach to war on terror; U.S. announces deaths of 4 GIs
"Afghan President Hamid Karzai urged the international community to reassess its approach to the war on terror Thursday, saying the deaths of hundreds of Afghans in fighting with U.S.-led forces was “not acceptable.”
Meanwhile, the U.S. military announced the deaths of four American soldiers in eastern Afghanistan.
A clearly frustrated Karzai said the approach being taken by coalition forces to hunt down militants does not focus on the roots of terrorism itself."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/
13473386/
This is a quote from Bill Frist (aka Kitty Killer)during Clinton's Impeachment hearings:
"I will have no part in the creation of a constitutional double-standard to benefit the President. He is not above the law. If an ordinary citizen committed these crimes, he would go to jail."
http://impeachbushcoalition.blogspot.com/
Ok Kitty Killer...time to clean up the White House's & Congress' crimes! You are First in line for jail or is that FRIST in line...
Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening folks!
Happy Thursday!
Hey, Global evildoer fighter:
I saw your last photo on Shug and Rug.. Someone sent me that same photo last year! Both of them look like the new version of Gone with the Wind! Is Condi, the new Scarlett O'Hara and the Gerbil is Rhett Butler? It was funny! I agree with Roger on the soap opera: Days of Our Gerbil because both of them are the joke in this country. There will certainly be a novel about the goods on Shug and Rug into Foringate drama.. BTW, Laura does look like the Joker with that smile and grin..
E:
Expect more spins from journalists and the media about the leak case. They can't get any info from THE BATMAN Fitz so they will come up with their own distorted version. And when this case is over, they are going to be the ones on the bench with the basket of fruit trying to figure out what went wrong!
Karzai is correct--he knows and understands the past and he has a pretty good idea of what the future holds unless something changes.
Hi, everybody
On Spiegel-Online today the result of
researchers report about the world climate :
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Jackie, I'm sorry for not responding sooner, but promise to be mindful of you both. I'm glad Peaches got a laptop! Maybe you can get a few winks now.
Global Evildoer Fighter....
Is that pic of Condi/W, a preview of "Gone With the Wind III"?
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