Jun 13, 2006

Ruby Red Slippers...

Never go out of fashion - just ask Dorothy, Tinkerbell, Mrs. Claus, Jason and myself.

116 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it true? No Rove charges?

6:11 AM  
Blogger Kangaroo Brisbane Australia said...

AP Bulletin

AP Bulletin

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A lawyer for senior White House official Karl Rove says prosecutors have decided not to charge him with any crimes in the CIA leak investigation.

6:34 AM  
Blogger Kangaroo Brisbane Australia said...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/APNEWSALERT?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=INTERNATIONAL

6:38 AM  
Blogger airJackie said...

Top of the morning everyone
There's no place like home there's no place like home. Oh those red slippers. It's nice to know and we know that Rove will be going to see the wizard aka Judge for his trial on Obstuction of Justice. What ever Fitz does we know it's in the best interest of the people and not the crooks just keep the faith. Have a great day and remember to smile.

6:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

phuck you all and your phucking blog. Read the NYT this morning you bunch of stupid liars.

6:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karl Rove, come on down!

7:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In case you missed the point in my anon 7:57am post above:

"WASHINGTON, June 13 — By DAVID JOHNSTON, The New York Times, June 13, 2006

ROVE WON'T BE CHARGED IN C.I.A. LEAK CASE

The prosecutor in the C.I.A. leak case on Monday advised Karl Rove, the senior White House adviser, that he would not be charged with any wrongdoing, effectively ending the nearly three-year criminal investigation that had at times focused intensely on Mr. Rove."
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/13/washington/13cnd-leak.html?hp&ex=1150257600&en=e40da3e03155858f&ei=5094&partner=homepage

I'm mad that I ever believed ANY of the $hit I read on this web site or it's ilk (truthout).

Not wastin' time no more.

See ya.

7:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel you Anon 757, I feel you...

7:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm innocent too.

7:15 AM  
Blogger jan said...

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7:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope we can all now agree that this is NOT the real Patrick Fitzgerald....Remember the posts from a few weeks back stating he was "recommending indictment for Rove."

7:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog is such bullshit. What is the point of obfuscating an already confusing reality. YOu people should shut this useless piece of crap down and scurry back to your holes and hibernate.
If I were Jason Leopold I would kill myself. If I were Patrick Fitzgerald I would quit. If I were the creator of this blog I would take up needlepoint.

7:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah am the real Slingblade if thet halps.

7:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There has got to be more to this story....Tell me that Rove is not just going to walk away from this...Damn we got Martha for lying! Okay okay...So Rove turned and now Fitz is going after The most eviliest one Double Barrel Dick?...Yeah Imma go with that!

I still got you back Fitz but...I am geting a lil worried...

Peace and Love

8:25 AM  
Blogger The Astral Technician said...

I've read the NYT article. FDL has a decent take on it as well. Sealed v Sealed is still out there. Patience folks.

There must be 50 Ways To Dump The Dubya

8:59 AM  
Blogger jan said...

Check out waynemadsenreport.com

Trippy stuff!!!

9:01 AM  
Blogger jan said...

Jackie said, "What ever Fitz does we know it's in the best interest of the people and not the crooks just keep the faith. Have a great day and remember to smile."

That's my mantra today ;b

9:02 AM  
Blogger The Astral Technician said...

SBP

I'd appreciate an answer to this. Could Sealed v Sealed be an attempt by Gonzales to thwart Fitz? Do you have any speclation on it?

9:14 AM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Statement of Christopher Wolf, Proskauer Rose LLP, Counsel for Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson

"We have become aware of the communication between Mr. Fitzgerald and Mr. Luskin concerning Karl. Rove's status in the criminal investigation. We have no first-hand knowledge of the reason for the communication or what further developments in the criminal investigation it may signal. While it appears that Mr. Rove will not be called to answer in criminal court for his participation in the wrongful disclosure of Valerie Wilson's classified employment status at the CIA in retaliation against Joe Wilson for questioning the rationale for war in Iraq, that obviously does not end the matter. The day still may come when Mr. Rove and others are called to account in a court of law for their attacks on the Wilsons."


Personally, I think this was not just a "leak" but a conspiracy and like the Wilson's Attorney said, "it does not end the matter."

9:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for GUARD DUTY, this country cannot continue to function under these conditions.

You can't let people get away with treason and murder. Rove walked away from Watergate and now this.

9:21 AM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

WEll, well, as SPB always says, "connect the dots"...according to Wayne Madsen Report:

June 13, 2006 -- WMR has learned from informed sources of a link between those who "outed" CIA counter-proliferation covert agent Valerie Plame Wilson and her Brewster Jennings & Associates cover firm and convicted GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

9:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But it does no good to know or have the facts and evidence.

The law does not apply to these people,and they contiue to prosper from their criminal behavior. If he didn't flip on the other two, I'm gettin' a room in free Europe somewhere...

9:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe that was Biloxi earlier telling us to phuck off?

9:38 AM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

SPB is probably gathering the FACTS before he is bombarded with questions here! :)

9:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe Specizznit Procizznit Bullixnit will lay down a def rap for us then?

10:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't tell you how depressing this is. However, sealed vs sealed is still out there. I'm not sure what all this means in Orwellian reality, but I'll keep the faith Fitz.

10:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to me that Rove has flipped.

I think Fitz has something on him
from the Abramoff case that forced him to flip.
Chaney is toast. Turd-droppings is putting a diaper on his own ass...
Mr. Prez will be lying on the witness stand at the Libby trial.
Hang in there folks, this show is going to be really good.

10:29 AM  
Blogger teak said...

I wondered why RawStory kept posting new pictures of Rove every hour; ack! RawStory, btw...seemed to have changed its style of reporting about 2 months ago, IMO.

Did Rove roll over on Cheney so he wouldn't get charged? BTW, I'm from Kansas and Dorothy's Ruby Red Slippers were stolen a couple of years ago...just like our country is being stolen while our sons, daughters die, their future is sold off for the sake of the corrupt rich with their arms sales and WORLD DRUG TRADE.

10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I must say, you all most certainly do not get it.

Similar to the Conrad Black court case, pending criminal charges against Rove have been sealed for now.

Former Fed will understand any of this since he's a former official.

Of course, this means that we have almost assuredly secured his testimony against Cheney.

When all is said and done, you will learn what "128" is and what it is doing on the court.

Wayne Madsen is as usual, correct about this.

Karl Rove, like David Radler, is nowhere in the clear. When the time comes he will be scrutinized.

10:38 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening Fitzbloggers:

Happy Tuesday!

Let's go the topic of the discussion: ROVE

1. Rove was never charged by Fitzgerald with leaking the CIA covert's identity.

2. Rove is certainly not off the hook of criminal charges that WILL arise very soon

Fitz will get Rove on obstruction of justice and perjury for sure... Folks, I know that the beginning for Fitzgerald's case was mainly about finding out who leaked Ms. Plame Wilson's identity. But, we will never know WHO exactly leaked Valerie's name from the get go because there were multiple players involved in leaking Ms. Wilson's name. But, through Fitzgerald's investiagation, he undercovered a WH conspiracy. As Jason Leopold has written last year, the Fitz created a timeline of the events that involved certain major key players involved in discredit Mr. Wilson. By discrediting Wilson, it would have foiled the WH's plans to invade Iraq. Get the picture.. That is why Libby was never charged with leaking the CIA covert identity. He was charged with lying to the investigators and making false statements. We don't know WHAT exactly Rove told the GJ and Fitz on his many testimonies. And we know that there were inconsistent.

Now, I'll just cut to the chase. Where does this case go since Rove is not charged? As the article from Wayne Madsen report that S-Q and another bloggers passed along, this case is a lot bigger than you think. It is a WH conspiracy. I read that article this morning about the link with ousting Plame/Abramoff. As WMR points out:
"In any case, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is now dealing with a much larger case with the same limited budget and relatively small staff of prosecutors and FBI agents."

And as Jason Leopold's article points out:
"The fact that the indictment has been under seal for more than a month also suggests that it involves a high-profile investigation, he said."
"Additionally, it's entirely plausible for a federal prosecutor to obtain permission from a federal magistrate or a judge, have an indictment unsealed for the limited purpose of having parts of it read to a defendant and his or her attorneys in an attempt to have the defendant cooperate with an investigation to avoid facing further charges, legal experts said."

This is a very high profile case folks. And expect alot of negativity and distortion about this case in the press. Expect more trolls on this blog to tell you "I told you, so!" But that is what Fitz and the DOJ office have to endure. That is called criticism. So, without a doubt in my mind, I always been 150% behind him. I tell him often that you will know who your friends are when this case is over.. The WH may think that they have won the battle with Fitz. But, Fitz will win the war. And those in media who are naysayers to Fitz's case will have egg in their faces when he brings down the entire administration. Amd I personally would give any if those naysayers a single and exclusive interview after this case is over. Let them read or listen to interview like everyone else. So, have faith in Fitz, folks. This will be rollercoaster and bumpy ride.

"If you can dream it, you can see it"
Walt Disney

10:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks SPB, when I hear that justice WON'T be served I panic!

10:46 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Roger,

There is alot of pressure on Fitz and the DOJ office on this case.. Major players would want to botch this case because there was always a hidden agenda withe the Gerbil and company. Joe Wilson, John Doe (ex-CIA agent who knew that there were not WMD and who sued Porter Goss and the CIA for ruining his career), and others were targets by the WH.

I think Fitz's strategy is to let Rove's knucklehead attorney, Luskin, know that his client was not being charged with leaking the covert's identity. Both Rove and Luskin ran with that like a person who gotten a lollipop! And the media just made it headline news.. But, Rove doesn't get it. He is not off the hook on criminal charges and the WH conspiracy. Roger, just expect the media will have eggs in thier face when this case is over...

10:49 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"I also think some of Jason Leopold's "sources" have been secretly leading him along to discredit him"

Bluewild,

Leopold is not being mislead from his sources. There were some of the same source who informed him that Libby was being indicted by Fitz. These were the same sources who told him about Richard Armitage cooperating with Fitz since the beginning of the case. Leopold reported that in March. And around 3 months later, the NY news reports about Armitage. NY New was 3 months late because Jason knew about Armitage.. Let's not forget Jason's article in May that Rove was indicted.. But, people tend to forget that Jason's article says that Rove was charged with obstruction of justice and not leaking the covert's name.. You got read between lines from the media. That is why I just don't listen to media on T.V a lot. Some of the media are there to push the Gerbil's hidden agenda..

10:56 AM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

SPB:
I don't know if you can answer this or not because of gag order.

Okay, so now the CIA leak case has actually turned into a WH Conspiracy case. Which is a NEW case now, correct? Could it possibly be the Sealed v Sealed?

(I am thinking about my dream I had a couple of nights ago where this was actually a WH conspiracy case.)

10:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hustla

There is alot of pressure on Fitz n tha DOJ office on this case.. I know di to b true cuz I'm a two time felon. Major gangsta would wizzle ta botch this case coz there was always a hidden agenda wit tha Gerbilizzle n gansta WH. Drop it like its hot. Joe Wilson, Jizzay Doe (ex-CIA agent who kizzy tizzle there were not WMD n who sued Gangsta Goss n tha CIA fo` ruin'n his wanna be gangsta n killa were targets by tha WH . Nizzle get shut up or get wet up.

I T-H-to-tha-izzink Fitzizzle's strategy is ta let Rovebizzle's knuckleheezee attorney, Luskinizzle, knizzow that his client was not being charged wit leak'n tha covert's identity. Both Rove n Luskin ran wit that like a person who gotten a lollipop mah nizzle! And tha media jizzy made it heezeeline N-to-tha-izzews.. Biznut, Rove da Ho doesn't git it. He is not off tha hizzle on criminal charges n tha WH conspiracy. Gangsta just expect tha media W-to-tha-izzill have eggs in thia face wizzle this case is a mfr.

Back off Anon afor I go my Glock!

Booya!

11:02 AM  
Blogger FBI said...

saddened by this morning's headline, but not totally surprised...there is a shit-load of corruption going on here in our great nation...we have an AG that makes up the laws as he goes... an AG and some federal judges that are in Bush & Cheney's pockets...and an adminsitration that thwarts justice at every turn...a president that has circumvented 750 laws in the last 5 years...and these crooks play for keeps

and then we have PJF & his talented team...they are smart and they will not give away their hand before its time...they know what they are up against...there is more to all of this than meets the eye...I have felt this very strongly from around the time everyone was speculating on an impending indictment (Leopold, Schuster, other pundits, etc)...but I felt that things would not play out as most bloggers wanted initially (myself included)...however, I do believe this is not over yet...

a few things keep playing over in my mind...

First, a Hardball show when Rove indictment seemed imminent (about a week after Leopold's article and many were denying it) -- in this show Matthews asked a Newsweek reporter when the indictment was coming in a laughing tone...this reporter's face went white as a ghost and looked like "a deer in the headlights"-- he quickly said I don't know. Then uncharacteristically, Matthews quickly changed the subject like he knew he was touching fire...(I just got the eariest feeling that there are a lot of media and other people in the Beltway receiving enormous pressure to not go against this WH)

Second, I think there is more to Sealed vs. Sealed...but it may be awhile before we get the chance to know...

Third, PJF may be going after someone higher, or it's possible that another prosecutor has something on Cheney or the Gerbil and PJF knows it...

I still feel that another shoe is going to drop here this summer...PJF would not have taken so much time to make up his mind on Rove if he didn't have some interesting cards in his hand...

And when PJF plays his cards, I will drive to DC and personally place the Viagra pen in the courtroom for my Fitzie and his brave team...

To me Rove and Libby are small potatoes...I would rather see Lady Justice grab Dumbya and VP Elmer Fudd by their impotent...well you get the picture

Long live Justice...

And maybe today's headline will clear this blog of trolls...Thank You Fitzie! LOL

11:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there is any specific topics of research they need, I would be happy to send them whatever I can find.

SPB, if they do, anyone can contact me by email. Gotta run, doing the Eyes Wide Open exhibit in Cowtown today.

Thanks so much for explaining it all RR, FF and others.

11:06 AM  
Blogger FBI said...

SPB said:

1) "The WH may think that they have won the battle with Fitz. But, Fitz will win the war."

Amen, brother!...

2) "There is alot of pressure on Fitz and the DOJ office on this case."

I am sure of this!

I wonder how much knowledge Gonzales has of the Sealed vs. Sealed contents and how much he knows of what PJF has unearthed in his investigations? What do you think?

11:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting that you mentioned John Doe, SPB. I noticed while the Exhibits A, B, and C posted here recently contained copies of Libby's testimony regarding the leak, they were given in reference to the "John Doe" case, not the Leak Case. I did not know what to make of it.

But now I do. Thanks.

11:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Steady as she goes" "Hall of mirrors" webs and webs of lies. Takes sharp, incisive minds working together with unwavering persistence to dissolve the deceit and unearth the truth buried in these Machiavellian machinations (and just goofy flimflammery - would you buy a used car from Karl Rove?) Did anyone see the photo of "the gerbil" w/the Iraqi PM? Check out that red complexion, that puffy face, and that expression. If this man has not been drinking heavily, he has some other kind of medical/mental health problem or he fell asleep under a sunlamp.
Re: this investigation, "stay the course" is taking on a real and true meaning. I hope none of the regulars who post here or lurk and read give up at this juncture. The SP and those working w/him need to know they have much, much support from the American people, and we need to support each other. We are all we have, and we are staring almost dead into the exposed face of pure evil. "Makes me wanna scream and holler."

11:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

See Blog Post

"Libby and Veep in Deep Doe Doe"

May 25, 2006

11:27 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"Interesting that you mentioned John Doe, SPB."

Anon, John Doe is not part of the leak case. Doe sues Goss in the CIA and his lawsuit is still pending. goss had tried to have the case dimissed. I found the article. E had sent this article to me sometime ago. It is a eye opener for sure.. John Doe knows Plame.


http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/05/meet_john_doe.html

11:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm right with you Anon 12:22pm...

And when when Team Fitzie extinguishes the evil, we will be screamming and hollering in celebration...

11:33 AM  
Blogger jan said...

Thank you to Fitz and all working so hard with him :)

11:33 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"Okay, so now the CIA leak case has actually turned into a WH Conspiracy case. Which is a NEW case now, correct? Could it possibly be the Sealed v Sealed?"

Answer: Could be....

My suggestion to alot of you is to read Leopold's past article about a WH conspiracy because that is where Fitz is going in this case.. Connect the dots folks!

11:36 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"Did anyone see the photo of "the gerbil" w/the Iraqi PM? Check out that red complexion, that puffy face, and that expression. If this man has not been drinking heavily, he has some other kind of medical/mental health problem or he fell asleep under a sunlamp"

And the Gerbil certainly wasn't at a tanning salon! Your first answer was right, Anon, yearning for the bottle...

11:39 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"Did anyone see the photo of "the gerbil" w/the Iraqi PM? Check out that red complexion, that puffy face, and that expression. If this man has not been drinking heavily, he has some other kind of medical/mental health problem or he fell asleep under a sunlamp." And the Gerbil certainly not a tanning salon.. Just yearning for the bottle...

And specilizzle procelizzle biloxlizzle, where have you been? I thought the Gerbil mistaken you as an immigrant and shipped you out off to god knows where?

11:42 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Folks, a statement from the Wilsons attorney:

Statement of Christopher Wolf, Proskauer Rose LLP, Counsel for Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson

"We have become aware of the communication between Mr. Fitzgerald and Mr. Luskin concerning Karl. Rove's status in the criminal investigation. We have no first-hand knowledge of the reason for the communication or what further developments in the criminal investigation it may signal. While it appears that Mr. Rove will not be called to answer in criminal court for his participation in the wrongful disclosure of Valerie Wilson's classified employment status at the CIA in retaliation against Joe Wilson for questioning the rationale for war in Iraq, that obviously does not end the matter. The day still may come when Mr. Rove and others are called to account in a court of law for their attacks on the Wilsons."

Folks, even Valerie and Joe Wilson have faith in this case..

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks, SPB.

Here's a working (I hope) link to the very interesting May 4 article from The Next Hurrah:

John Doe

11:54 AM  
Blogger blogagog said...

Yay, Fitzgerald admits Rove is innocent! Three cheers for system! It works slowly, but at least it works.

12:07 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

John Doe,

Thanks for the link. And I hope John Doe's case goes through.. He is another person who was simply doing the right thing for this country.. What Porter Goss did to him is absolutely wrong and hired a well-qualified CIA agent all for a hidden poltical agenda!

12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Vice President is working from Wyoming today. We have no comment on John Doe.

12:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dick Cheney said he felt terrible about shooting a 78-year-old man, but on the bright side, it did give him a great idea about how to fix Social Security.

12:21 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Anon at 12:22 pm:

I know what you getting at regarding the "John Doe" mentioned on the Exhibit A-C. I missed John Doe. And I had read the article and didn't bother to look at the upper left hand corner. Thanks for point that out. Now, "John Doe" is certainly R.C. without a doubt. And the little soldier was testifying about "John Doe's" behavior with his handwritten notes. What is amazing is that Libby's memory skills were great on March 4, 2004 GJ testimony but not when he leaked the covert's name to the reporters or his participation in spreading propaganda for a war in Iraq in Sept. 2002. I wonder if Official A+ has given any information to Fitz about "John Doe" or Official A-. And I wonder if Official A- is Fitz's next target!

12:39 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"Third, PJF may be going after someone higher, or it's possible that another prosecutor has something on Cheney or the Gerbil and PJF knows it..." I hope it leads to the information from the Vanity Fair article that I read!

12:43 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"To me Rove and Libby are small potatoes...I would rather see Lady Justice grab Dumbya and VP Elmer Fudd by their impotent...well you get the picture" Hmmm.. Thaks for the observation.. And the Viagra pen? Passed that to Cheney...

12:46 PM  
Blogger teak said...

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/06/06/
int06022.html

Greg Palast: Remember that I wrote a story for the British Guardian paper, actually in the column. I took over George Orwell’s column. And I put on the top of the BBC Nightly News – “Kerry Won” - okay? Then I had to explain to a European, Asian and Latin American audience that Kerry won. He got the most votes. But they’re going to inaugurate George Bush again. This is in 2004.

But how do I know Kerry won? The whole BBC team did an incredible investigation, and we found 3.6 million votes cast but not counted. It was called "spoilage" - and that’s everything from hanging chads to paper ballots that have extra marks, and are junked and thrown away – you name it.

But it’s not just anyone’s ballot that doesn’t count. Whose votes are they? We did a precinct-by-precinct analysis of whose votes were thrown away. If you are in a black majority precinct, the chance that your vote will be thrown in the electoral dumpster is 900% higher than if you’re in a white precinct. If you are Hispanic - 500% higher than if you’re in a white precinct. This also includes something called "rejected provisional ballots," a whole new gimmick. A million people were shunted to back-of-the-bus ballots called provisional ballots. And over half a million of those were never counted – never counted. And who made the decision not to count them? The Secretaries of State, like the Secretary of State of Ohio, who is also the head of the Bush reelection campaign.

Lots of good stuff in the article, must get this book. American MSM will not hire him because he actually digs for the story.

12:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"No comment," when asked about Mr Rove's status.

12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Under what conditions would Mr. Samborn be able to make a comment? Serious question. I can't imagine that the spokesperson for an SP would have much else to say.

12:59 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

Thanks for the good links (& reading) here today, bloggers.

SPB, In relation to Viagra pen comment:

I heard a story that PJF likes to wave a pen around in his press conferences. One day at a press conference someone sneaked a Viagra pen into the green room. PJF ended up waving that damn pen around the entire press conference. (What an image!)

LMAO -- Just love that story...

1:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not authorized to comment on much of anything. But I love the questions.

1:09 PM  
Blogger teak said...

Umm..I am a prude, what exactly is a Viagra Pen? I do know what viagra is...Bob Dole knows, Bob Dole knows Viagra. Another dufus from Kansas.

1:12 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Chimpcoulter,

O.k. I now know about that Viagra pen story.. Still the word "Viagra" attached to word pen is just funny. I guess PJF waving that pen around at the press conference made the reporters excited! Thank goodness I wasn't there!

1:12 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

"Bob Dole knows" LMAO Teak

"Still the word "Viagra" attached to word pen is just funny."

Yes, SPB -- it does conjure up all kinds of strange images -- no further comment needed. LOL

1:18 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Chimpcoulter,

Ha! Ha! LOL! I know seen the Viagra pen. Poor Fitz. I saw the Viagra Pen on Ebay. Fitz had to be embarrassed waving that pen around. Oh, and I saw article on Firedoglake's archives about the Viagra pen:

"I said I was told that Mr. Fitzgerald likes to wave a pen around in his press conferences, and that someone planted a Viagra pen in the green room prior to one of them. He picked it up and spent the entire press conference waving it around like -- well, like a Viagra pen."

That's so funny.. I guess Fitz will for now on check the pens that wave around.. If he waves the Viagra pen again, just don't use the word: "excitement" while speaking..

1:22 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"Yes, SPB -- it does conjure up all kinds of strange images -- no further comment needed. LOL"

Hey, you brought up Viagra, my friend. And you know making comments like that lead to other interesting comments.. As Randall would say: NO COMMENT!

1:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Prosecutor Says Rove Will Not Be Charged In CIA Leak Case...
The New York Times | David Johnston | Posted June 13, 2006 07:46 AM"

Please verify when DOJ statement will hit the presses-----

1:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FROM THE SONG OF OUR GENERATION THAT WILL BE VOTING FOR YOU! BY EMINEM Prelude) America! We love you! How many people are proud to be citizens of this beautiful country of ours? The stripes and the stars for the rights that men have died for to protect / The women and men who have broke their necks for the freedom of speech the United States government has sworn to uphold. (Yo I want everybody to listen to the words of this song) or so we're told...
Verse 1 I never would've dreamed in a million years I'd see, so many motherfuckin' people who feel like me/who share the same views and the same exact beliefs, it's like a fuckin' army marchin' in back of me/So many lives I touch, so much anger aimed in no particular direction, just sprays and sprays and straight through your radio waves it plays and plays, till it stays stuck in your head for days and days/who woulda thought, standing in this mirror bleachin' my hair, with some peroxide, reachin for a t-shirt to wear/that I would catapult to the forefront of rap like this? How could I predict my words would have an impact like this/I must've struck a chord, with somebody up in the office, cuz Congress keeps telling me I ain't causin' nuthin' but problems/and now they're sayin' I'm in trouble with the government, I'm lovin' it, I shoveled shit all my life/and now I'm dumping it on... Chorus X2 White America! I could be one of your kids White America! Little Eric looks just like this White America! Erica loves my shit I go to TRL, look how many hugs I get Verse 2 Look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself, if they were brown Shady lose, Shady sits on the shelf/but Shady's cute, Shady knew Shady's dimples would help, make ladies swoon baby, ooh baby! Look at my sales/Lets do the math, If I was black I would've sold half, I ain't have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that/but I could rap, so fuck school, I'm too cool to go back, gimme the mic, show me where the fuckin' studio's at/When I was underground, no one gave a fuck I was white, no labels wanted to sign me almost gave up, I was like/Fuck it, until I met Dre, the only one to look past, gave me a chance, and I lit a fire up under his ass/helped him get back to the top, every fan black that I got was probably his in exchange for every white fan that he's got/Like damn, we just swapped. Sittin' back lookin' at shit, wow, I'm like my skin is it starting to work to my benefit now? Chorus X2 Verse 3 See the problem is I speak to suburban kids who otherwise would of never knew these words exist/whose moms probably woulda never gave two squirts of piss, till I created so much motherfuckin' turbulence/straight out the tube, right into your living room I came, and kids flipped when they knew I was produced by Dre/That's all it took, and they were instantly hooked right in, and they connected with me too because I looked like them/that's why they put my lyrics up under this microscope, searchin' with a fine tooth comb, its like this rope/waitin' to choke, tightening around my throat, watching me while I write this, like I don't like this (Nope)/All I hear is: lyrics, lyrics, constant controversy, sponsors working round the clock, to try to stop my concerts early/surely hip hop was never a problem in Harlem only in Boston, after it bothered the fathers of daughters starting to blossom/so now I'm catchin' the flack from these activists when they raggin', actin' like I'm the first rapper to smack a bitch, or say faggot/shit, just look at me like I'm your closest pal, the posterchild, the mother fuckin' spokesman now for...

Chorus X2

Verse 4 So to the parents of America / I am the derringer aimed at little Erica, to attack her character / The ringleader of this circus of worthless pawns / Sent to lead the march right up to the steps of Congress / And piss on the lawns of the White House and replace it with a Parental Advisory sticker / To spit liquor in the faces of in this democracy of hypocrisy / Fuck you Ms. Cheney! Fuck you Tipper Gore! Fuck you with the freeDOM of speech this divided states of embarassment will allow me to have, Fuck you! I'm just kiddin' America, you know I love you...
posted by dorothy

1:38 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

***NEWS ALERT****

Jason Leopold will do a radio appearance today:

"Jason Leopold, the Truthout.org reporter who asserted May 13 that Karl Rove had been indicted in the CIA leak case, has scheduled an appearance on the nationally syndicated Ed Schultz talk radio show at 3:30 PM ET, RAW STORY can reveal."

1:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TalkLeft says:

EXCLUSIVE: No Deal for Karl Rove

Sometimes people just don't know when to cry "uncle." I do. I asked Robert Luskin this morning if Karl Rove has made a deal with Fitzgerald. His response:

There has never, ever been any discussion of a deal in any way, shape or form.

Which is exactly what Luskin told me weeks ago. It's over, folks. Karl Rove will not be charged with a crime. He's cooperated with Fitzgerald by testifying to the grand jury five times and providing whatever information he had without a safety net. Without a 5k. Without assurances he would not be indicted. That's a hell of a risk, but Luskin pulled it off. My hat's off to Luskin.

I opined repeatedly on TalkLeft and HuffPo that Karl Rove would be charged at least with making a false statement to investigators in the fall of 2003 before a grand jury was convened -- the Martha Stewart crime. That was wrong.

I'm ready to put this to bed. Karl Rove walked. He's one of the rare subjects of an investigation who was able to talk his way out of an Indictment.

And yes, I think Jason needs to out his sources. If there was and will be no Indictment of Rove, his sources lied. If any are lawyers at Patton Boggs, I hope they lose their jobs and their law licenses.

As for Joseph Wilson's lawyer's statement, it appears to me his lawyer is threatening a civil suit.

Will there be more indictments? I'm not ready to speculate right now.

Posted Tuesday :: June 13, 2006|

1:39 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

Bluewild,

I agree -- Bush does look like he is on drugs these days. And he also looks like he has been drinking too much the night before.

All that corruption fuels only more anxiety and paranoia...which in turn calls for more mushrooms for Dumbya...

SPB,

I don't know PJF looked a little excited at the Libby press conference... (no disrespect intended Special Prosecutors)

1:40 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this was mathematics, the outcome would be irrefutable, and without contradiction.

Mathematicians don't need to know the outcome of a winning strategy - even if the moves of an event - (WH conspiracy) - are infinite and never ending.

As long as the winning strategy, (which is even tolerand to "mistakes" or the "graft" of others), is adhered to, the outcome of an event is a win, whether the moves of the event are infinite, never ending or not.

I do know PJF has a winning strategy. I do know I have faith...
.... in PJF and mathematics. And I do know the outcome is a win - for truth, justice and the american way.

European lawyers are bound by law to refuse cases and to tell their clients that there is no winning strategy. The "chances for success"
'assessment' has strange properties.
Where money plays a role, the higher the lawyer is paid , the higher the "chances for success"! (in America.) Or as one blogger here said: "only in America!"

Returning to the original subject, tho, of outcome...

...it's nice to know the bloggers here....the winners of an unbeatable team.

1:48 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Chimpcoulter,

PJF was more serious at Libby press conference. Libby committed a crime in the leak case.. But, I think that there will be a sign of relief and huge smile on his face when he brings down to the person or persons that he has been pursuing to justice. Of course, PJF will have the same poker face that he always has in his press conferences. But, behind close doors, he will be smiling and doing backflips (now, that I wouldn't mind to see that)..

1:49 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

Thanks SPB for info on Jason interview - going to try to listen online as I get some work done.

I was just kidding about the "excited." -- I know he takes his job very seriously, and that is why he is so good at what he does.

1:50 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"I know he takes his job very seriously, and that is why he is so good at what he does."

Yes, he does! But, he needs to smile! And I mean that seriously. He can give the poker face look to the media and any presentation. As a professor once told me that life can be too serious for people but people forgot to laugh sometimes.

1:55 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

On Brown's application, FEMA misspelled Homeland Security

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/On_Browns_application_FEMA_mispelled_Homeland_0613.html

I shouldn't feel bad about my spelling and grammar...

2:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, does this mean Rove clicked his ruby red slippers together, saying "I want to go home" and has returned home from Oz, leaving his compadres behind to figure it out for themselves? If so,those must have been some powerful slippers. Wonder if they came with him, or if they were left behind because they will fit someone else who will have need of them.

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ed Shultz Interviews Jason Leopold

Pick a station and stream..
http://www.bigeddieradio.com/listen/index.asp

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi folks what's all the commotion?

If Fitzgerald opted not to indict Rove than it's for a reason. We know little to nothing about the true scope of the case so let's keep calm and trust the experts.

Fitz still rules!

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to all of the trolls:

"You have no power here! Now begone, before somebody drops a house on you!"

2:55 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Folks,

I just listened to Jason's interview on the radio. And all I say is that it was really brutal..He was slammed durinf his interview.. But, Jason is standing by his story.. And I know when this case is over, Jason will getting a lot of apologies from the naysayers....

2:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Goodwitch Glenda, I'm no troll if that was aimed at me. I'm struck with the "ruby red slippers" metaphor and what that might mean. In this case a get out of jail free card, and play on the word Oz? I'm taking the title for this thread as a bit of a message.

3:02 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Rove may think he is off of the hook but this Congressman will not let the Karl Rove matter go.

Congressman Henry Waxman (D-CA) is requesting a Congressional investigation into Karl Rove's involvement in the CIA leak scandal, RAW STORY has learned.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Waxman_asks_for_Congressional_investigation_of_0613.html

3:03 PM  
Blogger The Astral Technician said...

waterflake,

I watched the Plame Panel at YK. Someone asked the panel if BushCo could be stopped in their power grab.

Joe Wilson said that he believed that career folks like PJF would carry the day in this battle. He mentioned PJF more than once during the discussion.

If Joe Wilson can sleep better because of PJF, that's good enough for me, for now.

There must be 50 Ways To Dump The Dubya!

3:07 PM  
Blogger The Astral Technician said...

SPB,

Waxman has 50 investigations waiting for a new Congress. Then there's John Conyers...

Goper's Lament (Hard To Be A Republican)

3:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The very sly Mr. Fitzgerald,

My personal opinion is that you have so much more up your sleeve. You are not showing all your cards - not yet!

The old addage "Never let your left hand know what your right hand is doing"

OrlandoMary

- - -

SHARE AND FORWARD WITH EVERYONE ACROSS THE NET

***MUST VIEW THE SHORT PREVIEW CLIPS***


http://www.wnymedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1545&Itemid=35

America: Freedom to Facism Movie

Written by iakona
Saturday, 03 June 2006
The Scariest Goddamn Film You'll See This Year
AMERICA: FROM FREEDOM TO FASCISM
"FOUR STARS (Highest Rating). The scariest goddamn film you'll see this year. It will leave you staggering out of the theatre, slack-jawed and trembling. Makes 'Fahrenheit 9/11' look like 'Bambi.' After watching this movie, your comfy, secure notions about America -- and about what it means to be an American -- will be forever shattered. Producer/director Aaron Russo and the folks at Cinema Libre Studio deserve to be heralded as heroes of a post-modern New American Revolution. This is shocking stuff. You'll be angry, you'll be disgusted, but you may actually break out in a cold sweat and feel a sickness deep in your gut; I would advise movie theatre managers to hand out vomit bags. You may end up needing one."
--- Todd David Schwartz, CBS
Go to official site HERE Watch the trailers
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/index.html


A message from Aaron Russo

Written by Administrator
Friday, 02 June 2006
Dear Lovers of Liberty,

I am currently in Munich, Germany and receiving treatment at a cutting- edge cancer clinic.

This is my third battle with bladder cancer but the prognosis here is very good. In the United States I was told that I had very little chance, in fact, that I was a hopeless case and had no chance to survive. I am fortunate to be in a position to seek care outside of the U. S where I am receiving the latest in high tech cancer treatment and quality patient care. Do not be worried.

I am very confident of survival and that in this, my third battle with bladder cancer, I will finally kill it. The doctors here say that not only will I survive but leave here healthier than I have been in years.

I think the discrepancy in treatment between U.S and German health-care providers is directly related to the interference in Americans' health care system by the FDA. Which we all know ties into the theme of AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM.

I want to thank everybody for your ongoing support of this film. Based on the amount of emails, Internet activity and donations that we have received, I can tell that there are a lot of motivated Americans out there!

From the website alone, we've had over 500,000 downloads of the trailer and over 11,000 links to our website. We've screened the film in select U.S cities with sold out crowds and standing ovations. Just recently at Cannes, we had a standing-room-only crowd and another ovation for the film from the international audience of buyers and media.

And now the word is spreading to millions of more people worldwide via the Internet and there is interest from film festivals all over the world including Lebanon, Spain, Italy and Greece.

Positive reviews about the film are starting to come in (see below) and we also have multiple screens booked in five major cities for our July 28th release, which I' ll tell you more about next week.

To me this means that a lot of people are clamoring for a systematic change and the end of the New World Order and our film, AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM is primed to be the summer's wake up call.

But I am here receiving treatment for the next month, which makes fund raising and promoting the movie a bit difficult, so I need your help.

We need to raise at least $500,000 in donations to help with the release of the film. I'm asking for everybody to donate $100. If that is done, then we will have more than enough money to release this film on a nationwide basis.

If after making a donation - which is clearly the most important and necessary thing you can do now - you also wish to provide additional help, this is what we would need:

1) Sign up to volunteer - we need people to post information on blogs, create links and help spread the word through the Internet.
2) Link your website or blog to our website by: using our web banners available here

3) Forward this email to ten friends and ask them register on the website.

This is an absolute call to action from me to everyone who believes in freedom and the end of the concept of world government to act immediately. Everything is now in place so we can succeed. Now is the time we need it.

All Your Freedoms, All The Time,
--Aaron Russo from Germany

P.S. As you can imagine, I have been unavailable to access my email regularly so please forgive me if I have not been able to respond to you. But I have a team of people who are also helping with the film - please feel free to contact to them.
Additional Contacts:

If you would like to suggest a press outlet or arrange and interview, please send specific contact information plus the email address or phone number for the editor or producer as well as pertinent pitch angles to: press@cinemalibrestudio.com

To suggest theatres please contact: rcastro@cinemalibrestudio.com

Due to my schedule, I am not able to reply to all emails although I do appreciate hearing from you. I can be reached at aaronrusso@msn.com
Last Updated ( Sunday, 11 June 2006 )



Posted by:
OrlandoMary
http://www.maryschneider.us

3:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The very sly Mr. Fitzgerald,

My personal opinion is that you have so much more up your sleeve. You are not showing all your cards - not yet!

The old addage "Never let your left hand know what your right hand is doing"

I am a very great admirer of yours. In the face of great adversity you are one of our great heroic American patriots,

OrlandoMary

- - -

SHARE AND FORWARD WITH EVERYONE ACROSS THE NET

***MUST VIEW THE SHORT PREVIEW CLIPS***

http://www.wnymedia.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1545&Itemid=35

America: Freedom to Facism Movie

Written by iakona
Saturday, 03 June 2006

CBS: The Scariest Goddamn Film You'll See This Year

AMERICA: FROM FREEDOM TO FASCISM

"FOUR STARS (Highest Rating).

The scariest goddamn film you'll see this year. It will leave you staggering out of the theatre, slack-jawed and trembling. Makes 'Fahrenheit 9/11' look like 'Bambi.' After watching this movie, your comfy, secure notions about America -- and about what it means to be an American -- will be forever shattered.

Producer/director Aaron Russo and the folks at Cinema Libre Studio deserve to be heralded as heroes of a post-modern New American Revolution. This is shocking stuff. You'll be angry, you'll be disgusted, but you may actually break out in a cold sweat and feel a sickness deep in your gut; I would advise movie theatre managers to hand out vomit bags. You may end up needing one."
--- Todd David Schwartz, CBS

Go to official site HERE Watch the trailers
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/index.html


A message from Aaron Russo

Written by Administrator
Friday, 02 June 2006
Dear Lovers of Liberty,

I am currently in Munich, Germany and receiving treatment at a cutting- edge cancer clinic.

This is my third battle with bladder cancer but the prognosis here is very good. In the United States I was told that I had very little chance, in fact, that I was a hopeless case and had no chance to survive. I am fortunate to be in a position to seek care outside of the U. S where I am receiving the latest in high tech cancer treatment and quality patient care. Do not be worried.

I am very confident of survival and that in this, my third battle with bladder cancer, I will finally kill it. The doctors here say that not only will I survive but leave here healthier than I have been in years.

I think the discrepancy in treatment between U.S and German health-care providers is directly related to the interference in Americans' health care system by the FDA. Which we all know ties into the theme of AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM.

I want to thank everybody for your ongoing support of this film. Based on the amount of emails, Internet activity and donations that we have received, I can tell that there are a lot of motivated Americans out there!

From the website alone, we've had over 500,000 downloads of the trailer and over 11,000 links to our website. We've screened the film in select U.S cities with sold out crowds and standing ovations. Just recently at Cannes, we had a standing-room-only crowd and another ovation for the film from the international audience of buyers and media.

And now the word is spreading to millions of more people worldwide via the Internet and there is interest from film festivals all over the world including Lebanon, Spain, Italy and Greece.

Positive reviews about the film are starting to come in (see below) and we also have multiple screens booked in five major cities for our July 28th release, which I' ll tell you more about next week.

To me this means that a lot of people are clamoring for a systematic change and the end of the New World Order and our film, AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM is primed to be the summer's wake up call.

But I am here receiving treatment for the next month, which makes fund raising and promoting the movie a bit difficult, so I need your help.

We need to raise at least $500,000 in donations to help with the release of the film. I'm asking for everybody to donate $100. If that is done, then we will have more than enough money to release this film on a nationwide basis.

If after making a donation - which is clearly the most important and necessary thing you can do now - you also wish to provide additional help, this is what we would need:

1) Sign up to volunteer - we need people to post information on blogs, create links and help spread the word through the Internet.
2) Link your website or blog to our website by: using our web banners available here

3) Forward this email to ten friends and ask them register on the website.

This is an absolute call to action from me to everyone who believes in freedom and the end of the concept of world government to act immediately. Everything is now in place so we can succeed. Now is the time we need it.

All Your Freedoms, All The Time,
--Aaron Russo from Germany

P.S. As you can imagine, I have been unavailable to access my email regularly so please forgive me if I have not been able to respond to you. But I have a team of people who are also helping with the film - please feel free to contact to them.
Additional Contacts:

If you would like to suggest a press outlet or arrange and interview, please send specific contact information plus the email address or phone number for the editor or producer as well as pertinent pitch angles to: press@cinemalibrestudio.com

To suggest theatres please contact: rcastro@cinemalibrestudio.com

Due to my schedule, I am not able to reply to all emails although I do appreciate hearing from you. I can be reached at aaronrusso@msn.com
Last Updated ( Sunday, 11 June 2006 )



Posted by:
OrlandoMary
http://www.maryschneider.us

3:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Subway Serenade,

I agree, when Biloxi mailed me with the news I was shellshocked but quickly recovered. We have to trust Fitzgerald and be sure whatever he did was the right thing!

Love your songs by the way! Good job...

3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

not aimed at you toto a

as far as the slippers: perhaps there's no place like home!

3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SPB, What do you think, Will Fitzgerald be having a press confrence to announce that Rove will not be indicted?

3:41 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

I still think Rove is NOT out of the woods yet. He may be cleared of the "leak" charges but I think a big surprise is coming from Fitz! That is why there is "no comment" from his office. I think there is a whole new case just waiting to fry several! Not a leak but a conspiracy!

3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

glenda the good witch..

I am not a troll...

that was a valid radio link...

4:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cheese,

You blame the blogger to have jumped to conclusion now you do the same with Libby.

Obviously a lot of time has passed since the first reports about Rove getting indicted and today, surely something has happened of what we have no knowledge.

Why is it that in our times faith is such a nimble thing? Just think for yourself and try to look beyond what the MSM is feeding us...

4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

btw:

Confirmation of Radio Interview with Ed Shultz

Leopold sticks by his story!
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Truthout_reporter_stands_by_claim_Rove_0613.html

4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very interesting posts here. In all of my years hanging around a courtroom, I have rarely seen a letter from a prosecutor or Special Agent telling someone that there are no plans to charge them criminally when they have been a subject or target of an investigation (whether grand jury or administrative investigation), even though a decision has been made to not pursue criminal charges. Normally, the target/subject does not get anything in writing, and the investigation just goes away or focuses elsewhere. This letter that Luskin speaks of-- I would like to see it. Until we see the text of the letter, I think it best to refrain from commenting on what the letter means for Rove.

I have no doubt that we are seeing only part of the picture as of today and that, when the full picture is revealed, it will be something quite different from what we see today.

Interesting to see the Right trashing Fitz. Seems to me they had kinder words for Ken Starr. Somebody could have some real fun comparing quotes by the Right on Starr with their quotes on Fitz.

I've been wondering lately whether the limited number of DOJ attorneys available to Fitz is something that Fitz is happy with (perhaps because fewer attorneys makes it easier to manage a very high profile case, perhaps for other reasons) or whether it is an indirect effort by the Politicos inside and outside of DOJ to place practical limits on what Fitz can do. Comments anyone?

4:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re; The Ruby Red Slippers

Possibly Fitz discovered Rove's penchant for cross dressing.

Jay

4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's fry Bush's big perch

4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tin Man,

I always thought Rove Floated like Baron Harkonnen in Dune ?

;)

4:14 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"SPB, What do you think, Will Fitzgerald be having a press confrence to announce that Rove will not be indicted?"

Answer: I don't think that he should come forward to make a statement. As Fitzgerald has said that this is an ongoing investigation. By releasing a statement to the press, he would give Rove and Luskin more ammunition to try to do more damage control of Fitzgerald's image as an U.S. Attorney and a Special Prosecutor in the media. Like Randall said, no comment.

Subway:

Waxman and Conyers have been the ones spearheading for answers. You best believe that we will piles of work for the new Congress to clean up. But, I like Waxman's followup and follow through attitude on Rove. As for Joe Wilson, he still puts his trust in Fitz and this case. And this case is far from over...

Cheddar,

This case is far from over...

4:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tin Man,

or is that Chaney ?

Harkonen Image:
http://www.jeuxvideorama.com/imagescrit/duneint03.jpg

4:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Certainly if Luskin did not receive a letter or a call and is making a big lie I can't imagine the SP would let something like that stay out in public. He could just say that he has had no contact with Luskin or Rove to kill the big lie. Instead, it will hang out there as truth, screw up Leopold, Truthout and anyone else who has been clinging to the original May 13 story about Rove indictment.

This is fishy from both sides. Amazing how little any of us know about what is going on with our country isn't it?

4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tin Man,

I agree..

...hence my disapointment at todays sunrise announcement..

4:26 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"I've been wondering lately whether the limited number of DOJ attorneys available to Fitz is something that Fitz is happy with (perhaps because fewer attorneys makes it easier to manage a very high profile case, perhaps for other reasons) or whether it is an indirect effort by the Politicos inside and outside of DOJ to place practical limits on what Fitz can do. Comments anyone?"

Don de Drain: I think the answer is B (placing practical limits on Fitz). Fitz has always praised the Eckenrode, other attorneys involved in the case, the agents, and U.S. Attorney office in Chicago for working on the leak case despite many of them are working on other tasks and duties. With the less than 10 people working on this case and less amount of money spent on this case in the last 3 years (apprx. 700,000), the DOJ office should be applauded with a skeleton crew and a tight budget. Try comparing that to Ken Starr who had 50 + staff working on the Waterwater and Lewinsky case which cost 70 million. With this temporary setback of trust in the case fed by the media, the Polticios will try to do damage control to make it differcult for the DOJ office to continue this case since this case involves many key players from the WH!

4:28 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Also,

"I have rarely seen a letter from a prosecutor or Special Agent telling someone that there are no plans to charge them criminally.." Luskin must have been on drugs when he said that.. A letter? Please.. Again, Lust Luskin is feeding distorted statements to the press and to the public...

4:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

global evildoer fighter, my comment was not aimed at you.

4:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not only practical limits imho...

But unlike the Nixon Era, the
rug has been pulled on the
Constitution with this Patriot
Act...

So anything that can be done to
seek out more info MAY(strike that)
WILL be either hampered or be trumped by either National Security or executive Privaledge in a time
of war..

It's a hard road indeed and time
is on their side at the momment...

again...this is from an outsider looking in..

Hope it helps..

4:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SPB-- I realize that Fitz would not publicly campaign for more resources, but I have not seen concerned people outside of DOJ calling for the allocation of more resources to Fitz. Why hasn't someone started carrying that torch? (Or, is that torch being carried, but the story is being ignored by the media?)

4:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SPB-- Another thought. If Luskin is making statements that are not accurate to the media with the intent to derail the investigation, doesn't that get dangerously close to obstruction of justice?

5:01 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Don de Drain,

If Fitz campaigned for more resources, I would tell you what the media and the Gerbil will say. Both the media and Gerbil would say that: "this will cost the taxpayers too much money" blah, blah, blah. But, the media never said a word about Ken Starr's cost to a President that just simply had oral sex (oh, I'm sorry inappropriate act) with his intern, lied about it, but never threatened National Security yet cost 40 million to investigate and impeach Clinton! I think people are fickled to what is happening in this case. With the Gerbil controlling much of the media, I think that there are people that are carrying the torch out there for Fitz but we are not seeing it in the media. The media is controlled. That is why blog site like Firedoglake are becoming more attractive to people. Money is attached to the hip for media and some journalists unfortunately. They are hooked to the milk machine at the dairy.. Being pumped hush money to push the Gerbil's agenda.. Just like the people pushed through those walls in the 60's,'70's, and Watergate era, so does Fitz!

5:04 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"SPB-- Another thought. If Luskin is making statements that are not accurate to the media with the intent to derail the investigation, doesn't that get dangerously close to obstruction of justice?"

Answer: YES!

Lust Luskin is already in hot water.. Luskin should be worried about himself being charged instead of his client!

5:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i sooo konfused. Whats next?

5:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions as to the indictment of Rove. As the saying goes, there are many ways to skin a cat! I'm waiting patiently for PJFs press conference - and when you wait for something good, you never wait too long (Swedish proverb).
Advice to PJF bloggers: Think VICTORY!
D

5:15 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"SPB are you saying that not indicting Rove for the CIA leak is not the same as obstruction, lying, etc.? "

Answer: Two separate charges, Grandmanuk. Rove was never going to be indicted for leaking Plame's identity just Libby was never charged for that. Obstruction of justice and lying to investigators is a different charge than leaking a CIA covert's name.. Rove gave very inconsistent GJ testimonies.. As I said we will never know WHO leaked Plame's identity first. This is what Fitz's invesitgation in the beginning: who leaked Plame's name. There were too many people who leaked her name that it differcult in a timeframe to pinpoint who leak her name first. But, this case centers around a WH conspiracy to discredit Wilson.. They found something to bring Wilson down a peg: his wife! Wilson has always said that there was more to the case than just leaking his wife's name. If Wilson's was discredited by the WH, there would have not been a war in Iraq as preplan by the blueprint of the Gerbil.. Former CIA George Tenet knew actually where King Gerbil was heading when the Gerbil gave those 16 words, he knew that there was no WMD...

Rove is not off of the hook, Grandmanuk. Not by a long shot!

5:19 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"SPB....then you are saying that the AP story and the rest were likely fed specific words "not indicted for CIA operative leak" vs not indicated AT ALL in the entire CIA leak investigation nor anyof the tenacles that have grown since the operative's name was leaked?"

Answer: That is the media feeding words to the public. The media used the word "leak" to assume that Rove was possibly be charged with the leak.. I think alot of you need to read Jason's prior articles really carefully. Let me see if I can find the article.. All I say is that this is still an on going investigation and notice that Luskin is doing all the talking about what the prosecutor tends to do with Rove.. That is why I say on this blog that I don't carry the T.V. media with a grain of salt as 100% accurate... And no, Grandmanuk, Fitz has never said that Rove is not going to be charged at ALL IN THE ENTIRE CIA INVESIGATION! Got to read between the lines with the media.. He is not off the hook...I hope I answered your queston... Geewiz, I am beginning to sound like Randall Samburn's spokesperson except he says "no comment."

5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh good God Fitz! as your gen ex psy ops this board is gonna put us to sleep and we'll forget to piss on the lawns of the white house! You all are boring the shit out of me and how am I suppossed to get us thirty and younger somethings interested. We multi task to keep ourselves above water and get our news from Stephen Co;bert. Can you spice it up a bit or I'll put you in people magazine again. Auugh.

10:38 PM  

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