TGIF..!
What a month this has been so far...evil doers here, there and everywhere! So much to do, so little time to blog...I hope to get back in the daily groove next week.
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 6/16/2006
Jun 16, 2006
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- Name: Patrick J. Fitzgerald
- Location: U.S. Attorney On Assignment - WDC, Illinois, United States
Think Globally Prosecute Locally - I grew up in Flatbush, kept my nose clean, went to law school. Now that I am in Chicago and D.C. I have found that the rampant graft and corruption to be a travesty - a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. ---Favorite quote --- "Conditional love is an oxymoron." - Yours truly
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229 Comments:
Morning Fitz...
Time and the American people are on your side.
It's sad that you are not a real American doing a REAL job of being a REAL special prosecuter by REALLY prosecuting the abundance of criminals including yourself for being an accomplice to these criminals that call them selves our leaders.
You were the only hope for our country, and you are part of the problem as you droped the ball on indicting rove.
May God have mercy on you all for allowing America to go down to the GLOBALIST/ZIONIST/NEO-CON/NAZI/FACHIST/CIA/SATANIST/LUCIFERIAN/BANKSTER murderers of this country.
Good luck in NAZI amerika!!
maybe anon...but he's still cute.
Yes, Fitz is shooting blanks so far. Unless something really, really, really BIG happens then all of this is a farcical sideshow to a regime that does anything they want with impunity and manages to get support from countless, rabidly religious Americans who are afraid of everything except the wolf in sheep's clothing running this country.
anon@11:21
Special Prosecutors are NOT political animals nor are they on a blog timetable.
Prosecutors do deals, and they do not prosecute people if they do not believe there is a winnable case.
At this point in time, there remains a Sealed vs Sealed indictment. No one knows what this means or who "Sealed" or "Sealed" represents.
It is very likely that Rove did tell the GJ the truth (no perjury) and will testify against Libby (leading to Cheney?) If that does happen, what Rove told the GJ MUST be what he testifies to at that trial.
So we can only speculate. When Rove testifies at the Libby Trial, we will then know what he told the GJ. Rover was not a direct target, however he is at risk for being charged with perjury if he varies his testimony.
Evidently what he told the GJ satisfied Fitz. We don't KNOW what he told the GJ. It is entirely possible that he DID implicate Cheney.
Right now it is all speculation. Fitz is NOT a political animal, he is a Prosecutor. His timetable and decisions are based on the law, not all of us wishing to see heads on a platter.
All of this hinges on what actually Rover testified to - at the GJ hearings. He is locked in to say the same at trial.
And that is why this is NOT NAZI Amerika. Legal processes do still work. Unfortunately they don't always happen fast enough like we'd all wish.
Fitz is a very real American, doing a very hard job, being stonewalled by an entire Republican machine. He has continued to poke, prod and dig.
Just remember anon - no one knows what Rover testified to in secret - or what deal he took or made.
Have some faith in our country.
Have some faith in our country.
Faith is bullshit. Faith is a Bushism. Faith based government is the problem. Faith means people can lie and we still have to trust them. Action is what is needed without the Rosary beads. Time is the enemy. The neocons are sde facto so entrenched in every aspect of government as to make any pushback a failure before it starts. These people can send young men and women to war and yet none of them has any military record. These people can ensure their corporate sponsors are kept fat and happy while over 45 millions Americans do not have health care. These people can pass laws to secure their power base for years to come. These people can pander to the basest fears of their constituents and make it seem unAmerican to do otherwise.
Their is zero accountability in the government and you ask us to have faith???? Faith is for desperate losers who think that some divine power is going to intercede in their behalf.
HAVE FAITH IN FITZ!
Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening folks!
TGIF!
Well, I can see that there so much "love" from the comments on this posting... Still reading what is going on in the Gerbil world... The other bummer that I have for today is that Dallas lost to the Heat last night! Darn it!
I for one have faith that PJF is doing everything that is possible to get those criminals, but as he states, there are evil doers everywhere - and he is only ONE man! What are the rest of us doing to save this country? Many just complain... I pray for PJF, his staff, and for us all.
D
Some speculation this Friday. Sealed v. Sealed could be an indictment of Cheney (among others, possibly), but not of Rove. Fitz has already told the Judge that he does not intend to call Rove as a witness against Libby. But Rove could be an important witness against Cheney and others. Fitz doing a "non-deal deal" with Rove re Cheney makes good sense from many perspectives, including Rove's perspective. Fitz is still squeezing Libby to flip on Cheney. Lifting the seal on "sealed v. sealed" is premature at the present time.
Another possibility is that the sealed v. sealed involves Rove, but the charges do not directly relate to the outing of Plame. So Luskin can state with a straight face that 1) there is no formal deal, even though Rove has been indicted (But Rove understands that his favorable testimony against others will have an impact on what happens in the sealed case), and 2) Fitz does not intend to indict Rove in connection with the the Plame outing (although he has indicted Rove for something else).
Certainly it is also possible that Fitz told Rove that Fitz has no present intention of going after Rove criminally re the Plame outing without extracting any formal or informal quid pro quo. I don't think Fitz would have done this unless a) Fitz determined this is tactically the best approach in light of what Fitz is pursuing or b) outside pressure was placed on Fitz.
I do believe that, given time, those who have done wrong will pay a significant price for their wrongdoings.
Folks,
This must be the bizarre and humorous day for news:
1. Odd News. This is really an eye opener to what is happening in this country:
Fired – For Love Without Marriage
Roller Rink Fires 'Top 10' Worker For Plan To Move In With Boyfriend
COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho, June 16, 2006
(AP) The owners of a roller skating rink have fired an 18-year-old woman they called one of their "Top 10" employees because she moved in with her boyfriend, violating a company ethics policy that prohibits "live-in relationships of an intimate nature."
"I loved my job and I didn't want to leave," Crystal Plotner told the Coeur d'Alene Press this week.
She said she was fired after casually telling her bosses, Skate Plaza owners Marvin and Pat Miller, that she planned to move in with her boyfriend in mid-May.
Before terminating her, Plotner said the Millers said she and her boyfriend should "check out their church." She declined.
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fstories%2F2006%2F06%2F16%2Fnational%2Fprintable1719796.shtml
2. Lies, lies, lies!
From Thinkprogress:
Bush Claimed Iraqis Oppose Timetable the Day After Iraq’s VP Personally Asked Him for One
"After Bush returned from his trip to Iraq this week, President Bush attacked those calling for a timetable for withdrawal. He said Iraqis had “concerns” that a timetable would disrupt their strategy to create a secure and democratic Iraq."
"Today, the AP reports that Iraq’s Vice President, Tariq al-Hashimi, personally asked President Bush to set a timeline for withdrawal of U.S. forces the day before. Iraq’s President, Jalal Talabani, said he supported the request:"
"Iraq’s vice president has asked President Bush for a timeline for the withdrawal of foreign forces from Iraq, the Iraqi president’s office said."
Another Gerbil burble...
3. The Photo of the day:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060616/480/0b430492a60344c28e0ddd66604d3226
What would amount to a reasonable deal for Pinky? Well, at the very least:
-His or the administration's possible involvement in the anthrax mailing to the Senator Daschle.
-His or the administration's possible involvement in the rigged 2000 & 2004 vote, it's methodology and all involved surrogates/conspirators.
-His or the administration's possible involvement in a conspiracy to commit treason by willfully outing a known agent (Plame) who's work obstructed neocon plans for world domination.
-His or the neocon's possible planning and execution of 9-11.
-His or the administration's possible conspiracy with specific members of the MSM in the subversion of our country.
-His or the administration's ties to AIPAC.
-His production of Cheney's Energy Task Force scheme designed for the illegal Iraq invasion.
-His admission that he may have been directly involved in a conspiracy to setup Dan Rather.
So, Pinky must have offered one hell of a package to Fitz in exchange for his freedom.
When the going gets tough, that's when we need to stick together, support and uplift each other's spirit. Love is the only thing that can conquer the dark.
We definitely have some difficult times ahead of us and it is important to stay calm, focused and positive.
D
When the going gets tough, that's when we need to stick together, support and uplift each other's spirit. Love is the only thing that can conquer the dark.
We definitely have some difficult times ahead of us and it is important to stay calm, focused and positive.
D
Americans will see more of the same in Iraq and Bush will continue to say how well it's going. Yes SPB the Iraq people have asked numerous times that the US leave, but Bush isn't ready yet so the US will stay until the Bush Administration is finished with their plan. Notice nothing is said about the murders committed by our troops. Iraq is fighting among themselves and they need a leader the US in there for greed and control the US will lose.
Hmmm.
Don the Drain says:
"Some speculation this Friday. Sealed v. Sealed could be an indictment of Cheney (among others, possibly), but not of Rove. Fitz has already told the Judge that he does not intend to call Rove as a witness against Libby. But Rove could be an important witness against Cheney and others" which can expalins the name "John Doe" on the May 24th documents on the OSC site. Rove and Cheney never got along anyway so why should either one of them save one another in this case?
Or:
"Another possibility is that the sealed v. sealed involves Rove, but the charges do not directly relate to the outing of Plame" which mean obstruction of justice and perjury for Rove.
And:
"Certainly it is also possible that Fitz told Rove that Fitz has no present intention of going after Rove criminally re the Plame outing without extracting any formal or informal quid pro quo." In plain English: Rove is not charged with leaking the covert's identity but will be charged with other charges thanks to Rove lying in his GJ testimonies...
"I do believe that, given time, those who have done wrong will pay a significant price for their wrongdoings." And you are right... The evil doers will be paying the price for their failures..
DD gives some interesting points, as does Stephen.
I can certainly see why people are getting upset this is taking so long.
I think you are on target Stephen, Rover must have given up some real bad stuff to gain any kind of immunity or plea.
I don't think he's out of the woods just yet. His lawyers are such liars and Fitz has his lips zipped, so it is very difficult to decifer what all is going on.
Well, well, folks.. Some of truth comes out about the Gerbil's stolen election in 2004. Check this out!:
Greg Palast | African-American Voters Scrubbed by Secret GOP Hit List
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061606J.shtml
"The Republican National Committee has a special offer for African-American soldiers: Go to Baghdad, lose your vote," writes Greg Palast. "A confidential campaign directed by GOP party chiefs in October 2004 sought to challenge the ballots of tens of thousands of voters in the last presidential election, virtually all of them cast by residents of Black-majority precincts."
"One target list was comprised exclusively of voters registered at the Jacksonville, Florida, Naval Air Station. Jacksonville is third largest naval installation in the US, best known as home of the Blue Angels fighting squandron."
Here is the spreadsheet of voters:
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=160156893&context=set-72157594155273706&size=o
Has anyone considered that the sealed indictment, since it is in the Libby case, mibht just contains a new charge against Libby?
Like a CONSPIRACY to obstruct justice charge, which was read to Luskin, to make it clear that it would implicate Karl deeply?
As long as it is sealed, it also remains a bargaining point with Libby, to get him to turn on Cheney.
It is clear from the news released yesterday that the Administration is ready to throw Cheney over. In the best of all worlds (for the GOP) Cheney would be indicted soon enough for the furur to die down and a replacement Veep to win voters' trust before the next election.
Unfortunately, at this point the don't have a loveable person to put in that place. And iif this drags out much longer, I imagine it will be strongly recommended that Cheney step down "for health reasons".
jules--
Wouldn't that create potential problems for Fitzgerald in the existing procecution?
Good one Jules. To have corroborating testimony against Cheney would be outstanding. Wouldn't it be nice to unseal in October?
Until someone shows me otherwise then I have no faith in there ever being any meaningful counter to the neoconvict controlled government.
Why should I have faith in any part of a system that has consistantly done everything in their power to do harm to this country and its people and do it in such a way that they still have strong constituent support from rabid right wingers. They control the media, the three parts of the government, the election process and for all I know they control Ftizgerald at this point.
You cannot point to one meaningful counter act that is any way shape or form positive indication that there are forces at work to bring these people down in a timeframe that will have any significance on the '06 election or in putting people in jail before they are out of office anyway. Instead you offer hope, faith and wishing.
This is not going to have any impact whatsoever and to be so fervent about the success of any countermeasures based on faith is the height of naivete and greatly misguided. If you stand in a burning house waiting for the fire department that may never come you run the risk of getting burned alive in the interim.
Why should I have faith in Fitz? What has he done to demonstrate that this faith is well placed or deserved. Forget his past record or what a neat guy and swell dresser he is. I am talking about with the issue at hand since that is the one most important. And who else is there besides Fitz? Is there an army of uncorruptable legal people working feverishly to bring justice back to where it belongs? Do they have any meaningful support? If so who are they? Everything in this government is secretive and so is anything related to Ftizgerald's office. It is fascism like none every seen before.
I think it is time for a real honest to goodness 1776 revolution in this country. I think the time for unfruitful talk is coming to an end. If the legal process does not work then vigilantiasm becomes attractive. In fact it becomes the only remaining choice.
Otherwise while everybody is burning incense and praying to the deity of their choice for a solution they will find that the opportunity knocking at their door is really the Gestapo..
Folks,
More in the news:
From Thinkprogress:
The Senate Judiciary Committee approved the flag-burning amendment yesterday. The 11-7 vote "was supported by all committee Republicans and opposed by all but one Democrat -- Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California."
2. Fron Leftcoaster, an obsrevation about the Nigergate:
Friday :: Jun 16, 2006
Uranium from Africa: Who forged the bogus Iraq-Niger uranium sale "accord" and why?
by eriposte
I am pleased to report on an important development in the Nigergate story, based in part on collaborative sleuthing with investigative reporter Solomon Hughes from the British publication Private Eye. For clarity, I will discuss the findings in the following sections.
1. Introduction
2. Background
3. New findings
4. Conclusions
You can read more on the website.
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/007984.php
3. I have seen everything:
From Raw Story:
Bill O'Reilly endorses Joe Lieberman
O'Reilly: Let me answer my own question. I think George Soros, Peter Lewis, Moveon, all of these people-these far left fringe people want a completely different America--They got the bucks! They got the money! And now with the internet, they got the smear machine. You don't play their game-you don't get any money and you get smeared. Look what's going on with Lieberman in CT. They're after Lieberman, their own Democrats are after him.
Sammon: So people like Lieberman are getting squeezed out and he's thinking about running as an Independent now because there's no room for him in the moderate Democratic Party...
O'Reilly: He shouldn't. He'll win on the Democratic ticket in CT.
thomas paine:
Try this for background.
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/aboutus/patrickjfizgerald.html
Correction: By having "faith", I was NOT alluding to a higher power or blind faith that God will get us out of this mess that he got us into when Bush started Channeling him/her.
We have an interesting history - our political past indicates that pendulums swing both ways. When any political party gets too far to the right or the left, it starts to become irritating to the center and without SOME center, you have nothing.
The Wingnuts on both sides cannot totally outweigh the rest of the US population.
The Reuglycans are not appealing to anyone in any type of broad sense. What they will reap (my prediction) is a major turnoff not only to moderate and centrist Republicans but also to Independents who I believe basically outnumber both parties.
What I'm hearing is that basically people are SICK of all of this crap. (sorry there really is no other way to express it).
I just got back from a reunion at a small prep school back east - an absolute BASTION of Republican - it oozes Republicanism...or it DID.
Many of these people are wellknown and wealthy - they DETEST the entire Administration. These are people and individuals who have never in their life voted Anti-republican, until NOW.
We also were in CT - the disgust for Joe Lieberman is everywhere. Fingers crossed that he will be converting to Republican soon because the Dems back there think he sux bigtime. His support is in the toilet.
We were both impressed by the loudly outspoken criticism of the administration in these groups because of their past histories. Bush's lack of intelligence is particularly mentioned. The majority of people we have spoken with both nationally and internationally are laughing heartily at this WH bozo.
This country tends to pull to the center, leaning right or left depending on issues. Fascism doesn't sit well with us, but neither does following a lemming blindly off of a cliff.
A "war" without an enemy has no chance of succeeding, or continuing. We will, if nothing else, run out of soldiers. That leaves one option...a DRAFT. And that is where the rubber will hit the road!
I truly believe in the honesty and integrity of the basic American citizen - the disgust many of us feel is definitely felt by many others.
At this point, we have no choice but to just keep talking, reading, learning, educating, speaking out, fighting back and keep our own identities.
Don't let the morons get you down! Our country has suffered fools before - and we survived with a correction.
It will happen again - it will take time to regain our footing - but America has HEART and people won't let it die.
Stephen Pitt said...
thomas paine:
Try this for background.
This is what I get:
We are sorry, but we are unable to locate the page you requested on the Department of Justice Website.
If it is a litany of past Fitzgerald success it does little shed light on the case at hand except to say that based on credentials Fitz may be the right person to have doing it. But like the caveat with stock investing past performance does not guarantee future success.
It would be nice if the nay sayers would simply relax and let the team do their job. Prodding someone who is bound by the constraints of the legal system as it is is unproductive and counter to furthering this effort of bringing to account those who were/are responsible for what prompted this in the beginning.
Leave him be. If at the conclusion you are correct then you can say "I told you so!" till then be patient and back fitz and company up,this is a very exacting effort that is underway and requires absolute diligence and attention to details and of course every effort is undergoing to thwart it by very powerful interests way beyond the officials involved.
Thank you, t & selamat ja. Good to know my injured grammar was somewhat coherent.
spb 12:31: I like your pt 2 analysis. Ouch! It fits nicely with what Luskin DIDN'T say.
Stephen,
Luskin's job besides squeezing attorney fees from Porkrind is to give crapola spin to the media so Rove's public image looks good. But, Luskin will eat crow and will be the laughing stock to the media, from his "campaign" speech on the soapbox, when Rove is indicted. Some of the media are sucked in by Luskin's distorted statement and some of the media are questioning Luskin. Luskin had to do damage control to Fitz and the DOJ office because there is a hidden agenda for the Gerbil. And Rove is needed in that WH. And the concern is the November election. Everything is riding on the November election for the Gerbil because that is the glue to keep the majority of GOP in office and to continue the Iraq war and propaganda...
D.dD and Stephen:
I believe that the SP can amend charges in a case OR introduce new charges at any time. In this instance, the scope of the case entitled US vs. Libby simply expands.
Stephen: I think Rove can only be offered gentleman's agreement immunity for his actions in the crime being investigated. Darn it.
If at the conclusion you are correct then you can say "I told you so!" till then be patient and back fitz and company up,this is a very exacting effort that is underway and requires absolute diligence and attention to details and of course every effort is undergoing to thwart it by very powerful interests way beyond the officials involved.
You realize of course the EXACT same thing can be said of Bush's policies. We are told to stay the course, be patient, keep the faith because in the end it will all turn out right with Iraq, social security, immigration, health care, freedom, etc.
I am sorry but this has been going on too long to be patient anymore without any, zero, zilch, nil tangible evidence otherwise. All we see is that everyday the neocons get further entrenched and developing harder and harder external shells to protect them and their power base. At this point they have far better armor than the soldiers in Iraq do.
Let me make this clear: I do not under any circumstances want to say, "I told you so." That is not a winning remark and indicates that the best chance we had failed and we are much worse off than before because the neocons will know that they were hit with the best shot of the opposition and they won. That is exactly what the Rove situation already looks like to the general public.
Goddamn it, don't you people realize we are losing the greatest country in human history? This is not a wait and see business anymore this is war. If we are going to have any kind of future at all that resembles what made this country great in the first place we need some real action and we need it soon. I am talking Emergency Room time. This is not the sniffles, this is a mortal wound that is hemmoraging the country and the Americans.
By referring the matter from argument to arms, a new era for politics is struck — a new method of thinking hath arisen.
And that is really from Thomas Paine
thomas paine-
After several attempts, I finally got my browser to read the link in question. Here are a few more:
http://www.hwwilson.com/Currentbio/cover_bios/cover_bio_1_06.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-10-10-fitzgerald_x.htm
http://www.apfn.org/APFN/Fitzgerald.htm
"And Rove is needed in that WH. And the concern is the November election. Everything is riding on the November election for the Gerbil because that is the glue to keep the majority of GOP in office and to continue the Iraq war and propaganda..."
Yeap. And that's what makes the recent turn of events so hard to swallow, SPB.
Whatever reason there may be for it, it looks like Rove is off the hook for the rest of the year or maybe longer. I have read in one of the court transcripts that Fitz does not even anticipate calling him as a witness in the Libby trial, so his participation in the leak will not come up again for public scrutiny, then, either.
Geez, I have been saying this here and there for weeks. One person is NOT ENOUGH. Even if there was a trifecta of Rove, Cheney, and Bush getting indicted, that is still not enough to make changes. Get off your computers and do something yourselves. Tell your folks who represent you in D.C. that if they do not straighten up and fly right, they are *so* fired in November.
If that does not work, then run for office yourself.
Stephen Pitt I understand you are building a portrait of Fitz to assuage my concerns. I already stated that this is not about past performance. You may have the best weapon in the world at your disposal but if it jams at the most critical moment you are dead.
There is nothing to compare in Fitz' past record that would be as significant as what is before him now and if he falters for whatever reason then you can mull on these words by Abraham Lincoln:
This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.
You realize of course the EXACT same thing can be said of Bush's policies. We are told to stay the course, be patient, keep the faith because in the end it will all turn out right with Iraq, social security, immigration, health care, freedom, etc.
I am sorry but this has been going on too long to be patient anymore without any, zero, zilch, nil tangible evidence otherwise. All we see is that everyday the neocons get further entrenched and developing harder and harder external shells to protect them and their power base.
LOOK: I totally AGREE with you. What I was attempting to point out here is that you have MANY people that also feel the same way and share your concerns and anger.
This country has been in existence a relatively short period of time compared to others, and we have built and torn down on more than 1 occasion. Changing the minds and hearts of over 300 MILLION Americans is a daunting task. Most people didn't start out recognizing the Neocon movement and their implications for the future of our country.
Thank God for blogs ... I mean that sincerely. Otherwise where would people ever GO to find people to share ideas, thoughts and blow off steam.
So, I ask you - WHAT do you suggest is an answer?
I do recognize your frustration and passion in your beliefs, but you have asked questions that we don't all have answers to - except to say that we are TRYING to get people listening, talking, discussing and yes, disagreeing if they wish.
On the other hand, there are many people NOT on blogs who share our beliefs that it is NOT GOD that Bush is channeling. At one time, I even wondered if he could be the anti-Christ but he's way too stupid for that.
I still believe in this country and yes it is wounded - probably NOT mortally. Neocons die as often as regular mortals do, ya know? We are all mortal and most people are just trying to survive this meathead's trashing of our country.
Unless and until his actions PERSONALLY affect MORE people, we are simply continuing on and supporting our candidates and trying to remain Americans.
Administrations come and go - I still am very loyal to my country. There is nothing that says I have to believe in or agree with some cocaine/alcohol addicted blowhard who stole an election or some fat ass Rethuglican Veep who is stealing our treasury blind. I'm only one individual and if the majority of Americans CHOOSE to support these crooks, then I guess we'll have to change that.
I do believe we will survive these idiots - and they'll go down in history exposed for the jerks they are.
basheert:
It's good to see you back! You bring some very valid points for discussion.
And, yes, we will overcome this evil that clouds this country! :)
Roger:
You have such valuable information regarding the election fraud! ALL Americans need to realize how serious this is/was and not just sweep it under the rug! It really needs to be brought out into the spotlight, so to speak!
spb: I hope the FBI has enough evidence to prosecute those involved in the 2000 & 2004 election thefts.
Thomas- By now, there are very few here -if any- that don't comprehend the magnitude and ramifications of this war. Some of us have obsessed to the point of physical and mental exhaustion on the points you bring up.
Yet, my glass is half-full. I wouldn't do what I do as a political cartoonist if I was without optimism.
Please realize I too have a capacity limit for the anxiety caused by this thing. My life is dominated by it, from the moment my eyes open to whenever they close. And they're not closing much lately. I have written about what could and should happen if things go south, and support any Constitutionally - based remedy, which may not be pretty.
But we cannot, I believe, jump to that last point without more information. What is out there, including an active case number, and several related lines of investigation and prosectution-including the AIPAC conviction-sustains me and raises my head up.
Hello Justice Bloggers:
So many comments I have wanted to make the last 2 days, but yesterday I had to pick up my 2 year-old son from daycare because he was sick with strep throat. He's napping now so...
First, I was so outraged by Tony Snow's comments about the 2,500 deaths in Iraq "just being a number"...it really shows what kind of an @ss he is. Dispicable. He should be forced to work in Bagdad's ERs for a year so he can see all of the maimed and dead soldiers. He should be forced to work in Walter Reed hospital for a year where he has direct contact with soldiers who have suffered severe injuries -- there are many of them. It just makes me sick -- these criminals who don't care what is happening to our soldiers and to the innocent Iraqi people. So many innocent people who have had their lives irreparably harmed or taken from them...
Second, It is sad that there are so many naysayers here lately. You either believe in the PJF Team and the process or you don't. It will take time for this case to evolve, but I have no doubt that the PJF Team will do more cleaning up.
It is true that we all are responsible for doing something about the mess we have in our nation. We must all speak out and never shut up. Never give into intimidation by these crooks. Educate ourselves constantly on what is happening, and pass that information onto others. As much as I get disgusted with MSM and Congress -- I still write and call both to complain about this incompetent & corrupt WH. I am supporting who I beleive are honest candidates for Congress in 2006. I am giving what money I can for campaigns.
I am sure most of us here are trying in our own ways to turn this mess around. And of course we all get discouraged from time to time...this is the MOST CORRUPT WH we've seen in the past 40 or 50 years...but we can't give up the fight...we have to clean up this corruption!
I am so glad to be here with this community...thank you everyone for being here...it helps...
And Thank You PFJ and Team. We appreciate your work very much!!!
Off my soapbox now...
From HuffPo:
Today on the Senate floor, Democratic Leader Harry Reid condemned White House Press Secretary Tony Snow's remarks that the 2,500 troops killed in Iraq so far are "a number."
In the Senate yesterday, we had a moment of silence because we lost our 2,500th troop in Iraq. It was a solemn milestone which we observed in this Chamber.
Over at the White House, I guess they have a different feeling. In all the news around the country today, there's a quote from Tony Snow, the President's Press Secretary, who said in response to the news, "it's a number."
"It's a number."
I say to the White House, it's more than a number. It's somebody's son or daughter, someone's father or mother, a neighbor, an uncle, or an aunt.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
2006/06/16/sen-reid-strikes-back-at_n_23164.html
It's about time somebody said something!!!
More from HuffPo on Harry Reid's comments:
"Yesterday, Democrats offered an amendment to express the sense of the Senate that Iraq not grant amnesty to terrorists who kill our troops as part of their reconciliation plan. Our amendment came in response to reports that the Iraqi Prime Minister was in favor of such a proposal.
Instead of joining us in a debate about this amendment, the Majority, the Republicans, decided to play political games, and quickly claimed the Iraqi Prime Minister had been misquoted. They wouldn't simply go on record in support of our troops. Instead, they offered some procedural gimmicks to stop a vote from taking place on this amendment.
It's too bad, as just this morning there's more news that the Prime Minister has talked about and may indeed favor amnesty to those Iraqis who kill American troops. It's all over the country in the news."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/06/16/sen-reid-strikes-back-at_n_23164.html
These Repugs are so hypocritical and underhanded!!!
CC and other Justice Bloggers-including Stephen (good term CC;-),
You are so right. I too get aggravated when I don't think Fitz is indicting fast enough-or heaven forbid if the msm is telling the truth...and I am the one who got duped.
No, leave the emotion out and take a hard unbiased view of the evidence.
You see it cannot end any other way.
Treasons greetings
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/
Pedophile_Homeland_Security_aide_
talked_sex_0616.html
Why doesn't this sick bastard spill his guts on all the rest of the pedophiles crawling around in gov't?
LOOK: I totally AGREE with you.
I know you do and most if not all of the people here and HuffPo, Truthout, RawStory and a whole litany of other blogs. My concern is that we are placing too much emphasis on Fitz and the danger is that people will be patient and relax their guard thinking that the problem is being taken care of by someone else. That is the real point. If Fitz succeeds that will go a long way to undoing this wrong but I think it is only part of the solution and people have to stop keeping the faith in someone else's initiative and start acting on their own. Fitz is in too precarious a position to be counted on soley as the great savior.
The very first thing that needs to be done is to ensure the Democratic party has a strong message that is clear to the public and ensures that message gets out in every conceivable venue. Right now they are weak and spend most of their time harping on the outrages of the neocons. They are being reactive and not proactive.
I think Howard Dean is a liability. I think Ted Kennedy is a liability. I think Hillary Clinton is a liability. And Joe Leiberman is the biggest joke going. These people need to shut up and let some of the newer blood speak.
The '06 election is actually more important than a presidential election right now because it can give back control of the House and Senate to the Dems so they can counteract the remaining two years of the Bush administration. That is much more important than prosecuting any of these bad guys. One set of bad guys can be replaced with another set so no net gain there.
To me the best revenge is not to go after these clowns but beat them at their own game. Take their power away and then they are nothing.
The elections must be scrutinized as never before to prevent fraud. The Dems need to start organizing at grass roots to ensure there are monitors for every voting place in the country to take exit polls. There has to be much better accountability on Diebold and electronic voting and absentee voting. I am in favor of paper ballots and AGAINST electronic voting. Electronic voting is too easy to tamper.
The focus has to be on the '06 elections. That is the key to winning back the country and not what Fitz is doing or not doing. The rest of the world will give a sigh of relief and we may be able to resurect our tarnished reputation.
I want this guy to run for President:
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/all_columns.htm
Dr. Roberts is a real American statesman. I would vote for him and I sure wouldn't say that about just any republican these days!
Keep the pressure on our reps-that is one great way to help the sp's office in this case. Tell people-make fact sheets-leave them on Bushies cars. Take them when you go anywhere people will be!
It won't come as such a shock if we educated as many people as we can.
After all, Fitz and staff can indict them all-but how will that stop the war? we have to stay on them!
One last bit of light: The eight-plus retired generals who bravely stepped forward to proclaim their disdain for Rumsfeld are a signal. While active duty commanders may not -at least for now- make the same proclamations, it certainly doesn't mean they'd obey their CIC if his true nature were to be exposed.
People v. Libby and Sealed v. Sealed are only the beginning, if Fitzgerald's modus operandi is examined, he begins at the bottom-even modestly-then the number of defendants grows exponentially.
The fact is, any fascist dictatorship relies on it's military. And I have a very strong feeling the dog is about to lose its' teeth and its' bite. Too many generals are informed, I think.
Roberts is a man after my own heart. He would fit right in 1776 and be welcomed. He would make a fine President and has great intellect and integrity.
Thomas Paine,I have no arguement with the condition of the country as presented by you and in my requesting that we do have a measure of commitment to the efforts of the pursuit of justice underway by Fitz and comapny until we clearly see that this is not the case still maintain that give him some room. That is simply my opinion and request. It in no way negates the accuracy of some of the statements contained in your response and for that part I do not believe that there are many who write on this blog site vary to any degree with your assessment,either.
With regards to the action suggested or contempllated in other respects that would be your call and I have no intention of responding to that part. I do believe there are again many herein who actually do write their respresentatives,who engage conversationally others with information to alert them to what is underway, as you mentioned, and do everything necessary to further through the channels available bringing us back into something built around the documents which secured for us our freedoms,the restoration of the Consstitution and the Bill of Rights and who avail themselves of anything attendant in this effort. WSe do see and know what 'they' are doing and more importantly those who allow this to fester,the people who do absolutely nothing but worry about the next car they intend to buy or what game they can get tickets to.
It is apparent you are diligent and informed and keep up informing as that is something we can all do but please do not make the mistake that most of us are ill informed or walk around with rose colored glasses because we do not and thanks for your thoughts and passion.
I agree, Thomas Paine, on the criticality of the Nov. elections.
There is no crystal ball next to my computer, but its possible-even likely-that any further election thievery would ignite a revolution. Unfortunately, that might be exactly what the fascists want. If you recall, Bush made a remark about 'doing something about posse comitatus' after Katrina hit. So, he's trigger happy on top of being unstable. Nice combo.
For my tastes, the prosecution of those responsible for the 2000 and 2004 vote theft before Nov. would tend to chill any 12:10 A.M. exit poll and tabulator adjustments.
Well, enough optimism for now, as I'd like to have a fair supply left for the days and months ahead.
Lawyers and staff tied to the Fitzgerald Investigation are now in revolt. They are reporting that Karl Rove was indicted by the Grand Jury in Washington, D.C. for perjury and obstruction of justice and the indictments were recorded and handed to Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald.
It can now be reported that a Federal Magistrate (a Republican hack) expunged the indictments without objection from the Special Counsel in charge.--- cloaked
Wow, wonder if this really happened?
jules -- You are correct on the legal points, I was just thinking out loud about possible practical problems. Maybe there aren't any.
anon at 3:59 -- Good points. There are lots of people, on and off of this blog, who are working very hard at making a positive difference.
Pat:
I know what it's like when your supporters turn on you as soon as you exert your independence. I for one applaud you for pursuing the truth and only the truth.
It's been a while since we had a good old game of Klingon Scrabble.
Shall we have it at Harriet's pad this weekend?
Jules:
When I said that Rove is needed in the WH, that is for the Gerbil's agenda only! And Rove is not off the hook for sure. I think many folks are missing the point that this is still an on going investigation. And Rove was not charged for LEAKING THE COVER'S IDENTITY ONLY not any charges. As Jason Leopold at Truthout.org said that if Rove was completely off of the hook for all charges meaning perjury, obstruction of justice, making false statement, and so on, Randall Samburn would have made a statement or Fitzgerald himself. Since neither one of them have a comment into the case, then this case is not over with by a long shot. So, don't throw in the towel because Rove is walking around with a smile on his face. Rove won't smiling very soon.
Night Owl!
You are right. People need to get off the pot and do something about their country instead of having the "well, there's nothing we can do" mentality. If the people in the '60's and '70's can change the face of this nation with civil rights, the Vietnam war protest, the impeachment of Nixon, etc, then why can we as a nation can lock arms and do the same? And I for one have been sticking closely to the candidates that running for office in my area like white on rice, folks!
Grandmanuk:
Fitz's case is still an on going investigation. As Fitzgerald, Eckenrode and other investigators find more evidence in the leak case, Rove may be called in depending on what they find.. Fitz's witnesses list may or may not changed as this investigation is ongoing. My recommendation to the bloggers is start reading some of the transcripts and filings of the leak case on the Special Counsel site.
Stephen:
The truth will come out about the 2000 and 2004 election fraud. Roger knows all about it. The election fraud like the leak case and other current scandals are linked to the person all the way to the food chain in the WH!
Roger:
I am sorry to hear about John Caylor. We all have to keeping fighting to break down those walls of corruption. and the only way to break those walls of corruption is to bring down the key people in the WH food chain who spearheaded this entire election to justice!
OMG! Folks! Read this!
Pedophile Homeland Security aide talked sex, bashed Bush to 'girl'
Doyle acknowledged that his actions were illegal, but seemed to indicate that it enhanced the experience:
"hey it is illegal ... and it would be exciting and forbidden ... you are young — illegal — and gorgeous. and it would be great. fun. food, laughter, talk and yes sex."
The Homeland Security aide also added that he met President Bush, and said of the President: "nice guy but not a good president ... he is not very bright and it is evident ... bush is a liar ... there were NO weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. total lie to go to war."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pedophile_Homeland_Security_aide_talked_sex_0616.html
And the pervert bashed the Gerbil!!!! Amazing!!!
http://news.scotsman.com/
international.cfm?id=884112006
More about the super-highway along I-35.
Okay I am about to pass this article! Ms. Jackie, please hold your laughter on this one!
From Raw Story:
Snow apologizes for mixing up African American Congresswomen
"White House Press Secretary Tony Snow apologized yesterday for confusing the identity of Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX), with Representative McKinney (D-GA).
Also, one important note: On this podium last week--on June 8th--I misidentified Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee as Cynthia McKinney. That prompted a phone call from Representative Jackson-Lee, who was absolutely charming, and we had a wonderful little conversation. It's worth reminding everybody that Sheila Jackson-Lee serves on the House Committees on Judiciary, Science, and Homeland Security, and sits as the ranking Democrat on the Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims.
It really was a fun conversation. So I apologized for being an idiot on that."
I guess that old saying is all black people look like in Snowjob's eyes huh? God, what a dumbass WH press secretary! Why he still employed ever since he crawled from Faux news?
OMG, you can't be serious about Roberts!!
Check out the VDARE web site and see what you think.
Please point out an article by Roberts that you feel makes him not serious. Tell me what part of this article is off the mark:
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02062006.html
SPB
You're right of course, and as I say often, it don't take a street musician to figure this out. Fitz is from Brooklyn. I don't know about that backwater called Texas, but it can't mess with Brooklyn.
Most kids from Brooklyn can spot a scam a mile off. I'm sure Fitz has seen them all.
"Sealed v Sealed."
Cases by that name are even more rare than First Editions of "Superman."
Breathtaking, indeed.
Stephen,
I took a poll a few months ago.
If the U.S. military decided to refuse to support illegal orders, would you support them?
Results
If the U.S. military determined they would not support illegal orders (as determined by JAG's), would you support them?
Yes (91%)
No (4%)
Maybe (5%)
Now that the long speculation about whether White House political czar Karl Rove would be indicted for the role he played in exposing the identity of a CIA operative is done, perhaps the investigation of the Bush administration "hit" on Iraq War critic Joe Wilson can focus in on the fundamental questions that have been raised by the machinations of key players in the administration with the apparent goal of punishing a former diplomat for exposing White House misstatements and misdeeds. (snip)
http://alternet.org/story/37536/
Folks,
Porkrind blasts the blogsphere:
Karl Rove Gives Exclusive Interview to New Hampshire Activist Network
Additionally, Rove answered the attacks from the left-wing blogosphere:
"The Internet for the Left of the Democratic Party has served as a way to mobilize hate and anger -- hate and anger, first and foremost, at this President and Conservatives, but then also at people within their own party whom they consider to be less than completely loyal to this very narrow, very out-of-the-mainstream, very far Left-wing ideology that they tend to represent."
And took on the "big spenders" of both parties, while arguing for the Line Item Veto:
"In reality, there are 3 parties in Congress: Republicans, Democrats, and Appropriators. And guess what? The Republicans and Democrats are in a minority. So you need to have this important and executive tool that allows a President to shine a bright light on some unnecessary spending and then to have Congress vote up or down as to whether or not to override his veto."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20060616/pl_usnw/karl_rove_gives_exclusive_interview_to_new_hampshire_activist_network108_xml
Appropriators? Hey, Fitz, the man with the globe, since you are not affiliated in any party, where do you fit in according to the great Porkrind's philosophy??? I know I know, you are going to say to me with a poker face: "Biloxi, I fit no where in a politcal party!" Blah, blah, blah.. And the GOP and Democrats are the minorities??? Please....Who will believe that craphole philosophy from Porkrind?
Forgot to add this:
1394 total votes
What's wrong with Roberts? yes he is a conservative or so he thinks, but Good Lord-look what we have now?
I'll work on him about the womens issues-I think he can learn!
My first choice would be Feingold -simply for telling the truth
Is the Rosemary from this blog the same Rosemary that is from Rosemary's News and Ideas from Samuel Alito's blog?
I know Roger.. But to use appropriators as a political party is just as ignorance to when the Gerbil said in Fahrenheit 9/11 that there are "the haves and have mores." Yes, Roger he is stupid and someone should let him know here he came from because he sure as hell wasn't born into privilege from his background. Roger, he will go from rags to riches and back to rags. And yes, justice will come when he least expected it. I can wait for his freedom ticket to be stamped: EXPIRED!
Switching gears:
I got an email regarding the documentary movie called The Big Buy which about Tom DeLay. The movie is not available online on DVD and is now playing in movie theatres. Also, there are free secreenings of this movie. Check your area. Here is the link:
http://bigbuy.bravenewtheaters.com/screenings?zip=07712
Folks,
Here is some facts about Fitz's strategies and work ethics that pulled from an article which relates to the leak case:
"U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald has prosecuted mobsters, terrorists and even journalists. He has investigated and charged state and city officials in this notoriously crooked state with pit bull tenacity."
"And always, he has methodically, inexorably pursued his investigations to target the man at the top of the organizational pyramid."
"That's how he operates: Apply maximum pressure to reluctant witnesses in order to build an air-tight case against the most senior member of a criminal conspiracy."
I agree with all of you, we ALL need to do our part and make sure the upcoming elections are done legally. We cannot afford to let another election to be stolen from the American people! We must all do our part to bring justice to our election process! Our forefathers must be turning over in their graves at the corruption of this Administration. The election fraud and the 750 times the Gerbil has gone over and above The Constitution!
Thank you SPB I enjoyed Tony Snow's comment and yes Tony shows the world that he is a true blue racist. I could only think that Tony is so stupid that he might call me Halle Berry. If all black's look alike at my age I'd take Halle to look like. Some things are just too funny you can't get mad at stupid dumb people.
http://www.needlenose.com/
index.php?PHPSESSID=
8d13b60a3d542d6f4bcfb5867bcea108
. . the Waas report has been independently confirmed by David Shuster of MSNBC's "Hardball," as well as Richard Keil of Bloomberg News. So either there's been an outbreak of intrepid Plamesque reporting ... or someone really wants to get the word out about Novakula's supposed promise to Rove.
Now, why would that be? Would it have anything to do with the recent Karl Rove indictment watch? Remember, the last time Rover threw a Hail Mary pass over special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's head to avoid an immediate indictment, it wrecked the career of Viveca Novak (no relation to Bob), who was supposedly a friend of Rove's lawyer up until that point.
Is Rove in the middle of trashing another longtime "friendship" in order to save himself for another couple of months? And are these leaks his way of giving Bob all the warning he's going to get?
http://news.nationaljournal.com/
articles/0525nj1.htm
More Porker and NeoNovak.
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t: Excellent!
Surely the generals have laptops and isp's and can think for themselves. The gravest issues facing any of them may not be associated with the "War on Terror," but a war on Americans defending their Constitutional right under the First, Second, and Fourth Amendments. There is no gray area here to play with.
For them, it's a matter of history and their place in it. How in the world could a general or colonel face their families, friends, and associates knowing they killed for a generic fascist during an illegal war, then turned their guns on their own? No historical revisionism would erase that indelible mark.
Bush wasn't elected legally and practically every living thing on Earth knows it, except of course, those in willful denial. Therefore, Bush is not a valid Commander In Chief but an imposter; a militant corporatist of the lowest grade.
For men and women of conscience, this could only leave one choice.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/the_third_act.html
I believe choices have to be made before the first officer is ordered to turn his guns on his own countrymen because of corporate-imposed martial law.
And my glass remains half-full.
Folks,
I finally found the article from Jason Leopold which talks about Fitzgerald building a case for the smurf of obstruction of justice and perjury. Here is an excerpt of the article:
Fitzgerald Knew Identity of Leaker From Start
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report
Monday 03 April 2006
"But in early February 2004, a month after he started the investigation, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald shifted gears and started to build a perjury and obstruction of justice case against White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove and Vice President Dick Cheney's former Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby according to several attorneys close to the investigation."
"That month, Justice Department investigators working on the leak case approached a senior official in the Office of Vice President Dick Cheney who had been identified by witnesses as having played a major role in the Plame Wilson leak."
"The Bush administration official was given an ultimatum: either cooperate with the special counsel's probe or face criminal charges for his involvement in the leak, attorneys close to the case said."
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/040306Z.shtml
As mention before, this leak case is far from over...
You better watch your evening news...Bush is up to NO Good! North korea
*******NEWS ALERT***************
Grand jury declines to indict Rep. McKinney
A District of Columbia grand jury declined to return an indictment against U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney, who was accused of assaulting Capitol Police Officer Paul McKenna in an April altercation.
What is all this talk about the gov't having practice runs for a nuclear attack? A dry FEMA type drill, I read it last night. Some think something will happen around June 18th?
Headline on MSNBC:
Two U.S. soldiers missing, one dead in Iraq
Doesn't matter though, they are "only" numbers according to the Bushcos and Snowjob.
SPB:
Do you have a news link regarding McKinney?
Folks,
Bryon "Bullshit" York really missed with the wrong blogger from Firedoglake! Go Christy go!
From Firedoglake from Christy:
"I wrote a comment the other day in response to some questions about Arianna. It completely baffled Byron York and the wingnuts, which I found both telling and amusing."
From York in the National Review:
"Related to my piece today about the Plameologists and their fixation on the CIA leak case, I just saw a brief posting by firedoglake founder Jane Hamsher that sheds some light on that site’s emphasis on the Plame matter. Defending Arianna Huffington against accusations that she places too much emphasis on celebrities, Hamsher writes that the Huffington Post and firedoglake use similar strategies to attract readers."
From Christy:
"Remember that the next time they want to lecture you on their "fiscal conservatism." They’re privileged, white upper middle-class twits who want the right to shovel shit nobody wants to read and then be paid for it quite handsomely. They’re unwilling to compete in the free market. Always asking for a handout, expecting someone to take care of them."
"The NRO quite proudly represents the party with their hands on the purse strings. No wonder the country is swimming in red ink."
All I say is that York has balls to criticize Christy since she is an attorney and understands the CIA leak case. Thank goodness that the NRO has one decent reporter: Murray Waas. But, York is nothing but a lapdog to the Gerbil Administration and to the smurf. And when the Gerbil has no use for York, he will tossed York like yesterday's laundry in a heart beat and move on to another reporter that the Gerbil can use.
S-Q,
Here is the link about McKinney:
http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fapnews.myway.com%2F%2Farticle%2F20060616%2FD8I9I7580.html
FF- No, but I have read Roberts for last couple of years- aren't you a "conservative"? {teasing:-}
Roberts writes at Vdare because that's who will publish him-did you think WSJ would hook him up? NOT
I'm sure the good Dr (Paul Craig Roberts) and I would clash on women's issues -which are non-negotiable as far as our rights go. But I think he is a reasonable man.
And when he is talkin' Constitution and civil rights and Bush crimes we are in total agreement;-)He does not support the war, either.
I like to use his arguments against the conservatives that I must talk to. Smiling and being polite to them to explain issues, it's HELL!
Makes me want to go back to teaching in the prisons. It was easier;-)
But stopping the war comes first!
SPB, Basheert That is great news on Cynthia Mc! She has taken the oath for classified info and knows (and questions) 911 also. She certainly has my support.
Teak if you have any links about June 18 please leave them. I hadn't heard that. Thanks Stephen!
The mystery solved in the Cunningham "phantom" letter. Guess what DHS found it!:
From TPMmuckraker:
DHS RELEASES CUNNINGHAM LETTER
By Justin Rood - June 16, 2006, 6:35 PM
One day after an official swore under oath that the Department of Homeland Security had no record of a letter from Randy "Duke" Cunningham pushing her agency to do business with the scandal-linked Shirlington Limo company, the department reversed course and released the letter.
Republicans on the House Homeland Security committee went ballistic. "The Department of Homeland Security has a lot to explain," a press release quoted chairman Peter King (R-NY) as saying. "Despite repeated assurances to the contrary, it now turns out that the Department had the Cunningham letter all along. This is yet another example of DHS incompetence-and I think it may have been more than just bad record-keeping."
"This letter certainly puts the Department's credibility on the line, and raises further questions about political manipulation in the contracting process," the release quotes Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL) as saying.
Here is the copy of the letter:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/cunningham-dhs-letter/
And someone should do investigation into the DHS's sworn statement. Smells like conspiracy, withholding evidence, perjury, and lying to me...And an embarrassment to the GOP for sure...
T:
I am glad for McKinney. She is a major spokesperson who oppsed the Iraq war and is on a committee with John Conyer to impeach the Gerbil. Her voice is very much needed. The GOP certainly wanted her political career destroyed. She has a lot supporters from her state and outside of her state ..
Samuel Alito at 4:25
Nobody is turning on Fitz. Don't know what you are talking about.
Hi Sammy,
Bill of rights, going once, going twice-Alito only knows...
Led by Bush, the Republican Party now stands for detainment without trial and war without end. It is a party destructive of all virtue and a great threat to life and liberty on earth.
The Bush Regime has killed tens of thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan, mainly women and children. The deaths are excused as unintended "collateral damage" of the ongoing war, but the deaths are nonetheless important to the tens of thousands of relatives and friends. An equally important casualty of the Bush Regime is truth.
Bush’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are costing hard-pressed US taxpayers $300,000,000 per day! These wars are lost. Yet, imbecilic members of Congress are in the process of funding the war for another year. Multiply $300 million by 365 days and you get $109,500,000,000. These are not the full costs. The huge figure does not include the destroyed equipment, destroyed lives, and long-term care of the maimed and disabled.
The criminal Bush Regime has now murdered more Iraqis than Saddam Hussein. The Bush Regime is also responsible for 20,000 US casualties (dead, maimed for life, and wounded).
Bush claims that he is higher authority than both US law and international law. In the past, US presidents vetoed laws with which they disagreed. Bush signs the laws and ignores them.
The Bush regime’s practice of excessive secrecy and denial of information to Congress allows the regime to avoid judicial review of its power claims. Bush ignores Congress and evades the courts.
When President Richard Nixon made excessive claims for presidential powers, principled Republicans revolted and helped to bring down Nixon. Today’s Republicans are loyal only to power. They have no principles. By supporting Bush, Republicans are bringing down America.
The US lacks the necessary conventional military force to invade and occupy Iran, but the use of nuclear weapons against Iran has a wider purpose. The neocons are determined not to have any more embarrassments, such as the Iraqi insurgency. By nuking Iran they intend to send a wider message that the US will use every means at its disposal to ensure its hegemony. The neocons believe that the use of nukes will convince Arabs and the wider world that there is no recourse to accepting America’s will.
Neocons are the epitome of evil, and they have succumbed to hubris. Like Hitler when he attacked the Soviet Union, neocons believe that their manipulative skills and use of military power will carry the day for their agenda. Hitler’s hubris doomed Germany to destruction. What price will America pay for neocon hubris?
Neoconservatives don’t want "no stinking talks." They want war. War is their only hope.
Neoconservatives are ruthless. They have control of the US government and military. Little stands between them and their fanatical determination to widen war in the Middle East.
Bush, who swore on the Bible that he would defend and uphold the Constitution, has made it clear that he will not let the Constitution get in the way of expanding the powers of his office.
Bush has refused to obey statutory law, specifically the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). Bush claims that as commander-in-chief he has the right to ignore the law and to spy on Americans without a warrant.
Bush has over-ridden a number of protections in the Bill of Rights.Bush has ignored habeas corpus and claims the unconstitutional power to arrest and detain people indefinitely without a warrant and without presenting charges to a judge.
Bush has used signing statements considerably in excess of all previous presidents combined.
George W. Bush and his gang of neocon warmongers have destroyed America’s reputation. It is likely to stay destroyed, because at this point the only way to restore America’s reputation would be to impeach and convict President Bush for intentionally deceiving Congress and the American people in order to start a war of aggression against a country that posed no threat to the US. America can redeem itself only by holding Bush accountable
Fitzgerald has stated that his investigations are not over. There are indications that Fitzgerald is aware that more is involved than the blown cover of Valerie Plame’s CIA counter-proliferation operation. Fitzgerald is on the trail of the conspirators who have committed high treason by taking America to war on false pretenses.
What will it take for Americans to re-establish accountability in their government? Bush has gotten away with lies and an illegal war of aggression, with outing CIA agents, with war crimes against Iraqi civilians, with the horrors of the Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo torture centers, and now with the destruction of New Orleans.
One certainty prevails. Bush is committing America to a path of violence and coercion, and he is getting away with it.
Gentle reader, do you believe that the Bush regime will not shoot you down in the streets if you have a rebellion?
Folks,
This is an interesting article. Here is an excerpt:
Resolved: America great! Bin Laden evil! Go Bush!
Not even the inventor of "freedom fries" could stand to be present at the GOP-controlled Congress' absurd "debate" over Iraq.
By Michael Scherer / Salon
"Rep. Walter Jones, the North Carolina Republican who invented the phrase "Freedom Fries," invited me into his Capitol Hill office Thursday morning, a cluttered space festooned from floor to ceiling with military memorabilia, Pentagon plaques and photographs of soldiers. Then he pulled out an e-mail he had recently received from an Army captain who served in Iraq."
"The email quoted another American soldier serving in Iraq, a voice that Jones wanted people to hear. "Tell all those assholes in D.C. to get us the f--- out of here. This is bullshit," Jones said, reading from the email, but choosing not to pronounce the f-word in full. "Either that or tell them to tell Bush to send over the twins. They can bunk with me. That would be useful."
"But Jones is one of a handful of Republican congressmen to break ranks with President Bush and the GOP leadership over Iraq. In recent months, he has been campaigning for a "full and honest" debate on the Iraq war."
Old news--so whatever happened to that big bomb that some folks wanted to blow up in Nevada in late June for testing? Is that thing still on?
http://www.nukestrat.com/us/stratcom/
gs-divinestrake.htm
The Divine Strake bomb as it is called has been indefinitely postponed.
Lyin' Liz Cheney might be spreading some of her propaganda money around on the network evening news with fear-mongering to old people and children about North Korea hitting California with a nuclear bomb this weekend.
'Course they cleaned it up a little later in their story, CBS did. Their Website was sure to include a BIG, SCARY PICTURE OF A SWAT TEAM MEMBER ALL IN BLACK AND SWAT GEAR telling us that we are not ready for an ATTACK!
Was that good Karl? You ass.
May I suggest...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-crispin-miller/some-might-call-it-treaso_b_23187.html
...on the election fraud that may have no end. This is a matter that should be equally troubling to fiscal/old school conservatives. I pity any presidential candidate, D or R, that would have to deal with this deep threat to democracy.
All the major problems facing United States today are a result of stolen elections. The neoconservatives stole the 2000 election and was allowed to steal the 2004 election. Will they be allowed to steal the 2006 election too? What is being done to ensure a fair voting system? That seems to be the key to taking the country back and to elect responsible representatives. In the meantime, the thieves should be held accountable.
D
If you read up on these election fraud charges, it is clear that people have been murdered, assaulted, falsely arrested, smeared, basically had their lives' destroyed by people who have to RESORT TO CHEATING TO WIN.
To arrogantly involve oneself in such practices really shows the true character of that person. Winners do not cheat...didn't their mother or father teach them that as small children? Perhaps the people running for office should have taken lie detector tests along with their campaign managers....mental and backround tests and checks ought to be in order for such cheaters with NO character.
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/
George Bush Sanctioned Rape Rooms?
by
Larry C Johnson
As they say at the Pottery Barn, you break, you buy it. I don't think President George W. Bush has enough in his piggy bank to cover the cost of the horror he is helping perpetuate in Iraq. Today's Washington Post reports that the Shias running Iraqi prisons are engaged in the kinds of abuse last seen when Saddam was in power.
According to the Post:
On Saturday, a group of parliament members paid a surprise visit to a detention facility run by the Interior Ministry in Baqubah, north of Baghdad. "We have found terrible violations of the law," said Muhammed al-Dayni, a Sunni parliament member who said as many as 120 detainees were packed into a 35-by-20-foot cell. "They told us that they've been raped," Dayni said. "Their families were called in and tortured to force the detainees to testify against other people."
"The detention facilities of the ministries of Defense and Interior are places for the most brutal human rights abuse," he added.
more
That's what June 18th was about. Cindy Sheehan is demonstrating with other orgs to stop that "test".
Makes sense why they sent the military away...from their own cabal perspective.
Stay safe everyone. I can tell you all about the vote fraud I have helped some of the investigators (not much, no time) and they have uncovered everything Teak said, RFK Jr. said and more.
Off to read SPB post and now you see why I think Dr. Roberts is a pure statesman on the main issue of the day-LIBERTY? We need everyone on board with this cause! Left, right what have you. All of us.
G'Night
Final posting (I'm on the internet very late):
From Thinkprogress:
Homeland Insecurity. According to a new Department of Homeland Security report, New Orleans is still unprepared for another catastrophic hurricane more than 10 months after Katrina. Washington, D.C. and New York don’t meet guidelines for responding to major disasters. The shortcomings in emergency planning, including antiquated and uncoordinated response guidelines, are cause “for significant national concern,” Homeland Security’s analysis concluded.
June is hurricane season. In the next couple of months will be the anniversary of Hurricane Katrina! It is a bit disturbing that DHS are not planned for the next disaster for any upcoming hurricanes...
Good Night/Morning! Signing off!
http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/
goldtrig.txt
Evil breeds evil.
Communication with Helena, Commander of Capricorn 16 Jun 2006
Welcoming Helena. I am a bit late this morning.
Helena: Good morning. Yes, you are a bit later than usual, but
I am ready to share information with you. As you have expected,
this should be the day for the announcement of the change in your
government. There will be many who will be most surprised at
this coming announcement. Your government will be restored, if
our understanding is correct, to its original constitution before
some changes were made back in the 1930s. That change or return
to constitutional government will be of great importance to your
country and to the world. There will again be a constitutional
government in Washington, D.C. after the new elections occur.
You will enjoy some dramatic changes in the way in which your
government can exercise its authority for the benefit of all the
people and not predominantly for the benefit of special interest
groups.
There will be some new laws to go along with the government
restoration. There will be a lot of laws that will have to be
reviewed and changed or withdrawn. There are great days coming
for America and the result will help the world. There will be
peace declared. There will be no wars established for the
benefit of those who want the oils of Iraq. There will again be
a nation that others can look up to and admire for the benefits
that this nation will bring to its citizens. This nation will
again become a rightful leader in the world. That is my message
for you this morning. Hopefully you will soon have peace
declared and then we will be able to land and be among you as
planned many years ago. Any questions?
Lavar: Thank you dear Helena. You have a good understanding of
our nation and its needs for change. Thank you for your message.
Do you foresee any further delays in the restoration of our
nation's rightful government?
Helena: There are those who are striving and have been striving
to keep this announcement or change from being made. However, it
does appear that the changes will be made and an announcement
made this evening or tomorrow.
Lavar: Thank you, dear Helena. We shall be most pleased to have
the constitution restored. I shall be with you again on Monday,
hopefully with a new America to look forward to being a part of.
http://www.starshipcapricorn.org/punb126/upload/viewtopic.php?id=3589
Computer Translation :
Pentagon-report describes prisoner-misuses in Iraq
Several prisoners naked are removed accordingly, are poured over with water and interrogated become then in the cold. In spite of the test result, brigade general Formica sees no necessity to Disziplinarmaßnahmen.
Washington - special units of the US military forces used after a report of the American defense ministry in the year 2004 raue and inadmissible interrogation methods with iraqi prisoners. How that will write „New York Times“ on Saturday with reference to the on the day before published investigation, the occurrences in a period happened of four months, long after such treatments had been prohibited.
The last of altogether twelve large investigation report had been this, busied itself that with alleged misuses through US-soldiers in the Gefangenenlager Guantanamo on Cuba, in Afghanistan and in Iraq, was named it in that „New York Times“. Let it be the first study that would concentrate on the behavior of special units.
The report was generated of brigade general Richard Formica, would report released had after over Gefangenenmißhandlungen by US-soldiers in the prison Abu Ghraib 2004 internationally rebellion.
Formica: A prisoner recovered only water for 17 days and bread
Formica wrote in the document, the interrogating of special units would have given some prisoner only bread or cracker and water if these had been not statements ready.
A prisoner had received only water for 17 days and bread. Others had been 7 days in so small cells locked in that they neither were able to stand yet lie therein. Loud music had prevented from it furthermore the sleep.
Formica writes, would be had told that adherence of prisoner in tiny cells „for 24 to 48 hours acceptable, not however for five to seven days.“ three prisoner the report according to, they had been locked in for respectively two, five and seven days in cage similar cells.
Inquiry technology: Pour over with water and interrogate in the cold
Several prisoners would be naked removed, would be poured over with water and interrogated become then in rooms with air-conditioning or in the cold. Formica said, it would have the appearance that members of the special unit Navy Seals would have used this technology at a prisoner, who had died later in an inquiry in the year 2004 in the north iraqi city Mossul. However there are no signs that this inquiry technology has to do had something with its death.
Resume: „The soldiers incorrectly acted lies, but no intentional misuse before“
In spite of the test result, Formica saw no necessity to Disziplinarmaßnahmen. The army general emphasized, the soldiers incorrectly would have acted, but no intentional misuse would lie before. Responsible let insufficient leadership and personal mistakes be not. Because of misuses or humiliation prisoner in Abu Ghraib, eleven soldiers were convicted until now.
The publication of the report had been applied for by the society for the defense of middle class freedoms (ACLU). Some text passages had become geschwärzt. So the names of the participants and the places in which the occurrences happened were not, readably.
The American defense ministry listed in a report several offences against the correct treatment of prisoner in Iraq. The report summarizes occurrences out of the years 2003 and 2004 and became deliver on Friday the American union for civil rights (ACLU). Place and name of special units unrecognizably were made.
Iraq requests political and financial aid in UN
Meanwhile Iraq UN-secretary-general Kofi Annan requested around political and financial aid. Annan wants to initiate an international program for Iraq how out of an UN- explanation of the late Friday follows. After that Annan had been asked by the iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki by telephone for international support. Also Foreign Minister Hoschiar Sibari had addressed it in a visit in New York on that. In addition representatives of the US-government would have transmitted the wish of President George W. Bush to it, should receive the United Nations the leading roll in the development of this „international pact for Iraq“. WORLD de
http://www.welt.de/data/2006/06/17/921390.html
Thanks to Dr. Strangelove for the info on the big, stupid bomb test, and the great movie reference.
I am glad to see that is postponed. Other countries will want to play with their 'toys' if the U.S. plays first. We have enough problems now.
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Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening Folks!
Happy Saturday!
In the news:
The Gerbil has expanded his trolling the American people:
From TPMmuckraker:
TIA Lives On - Minus Abuse Protections
By Justin Rood - June 16, 2006, 2:36 PM
"Your tax dollars at work: Congress attempted to kill the ill-conceived Terrorist Information Awareness program in 2003. But instead, the Rasputin-like program -- designed to somehow find terrorists from a sky-high pile of credit card bills, car rental receipts and travel records -- came back, bigger and stronger and arguably worse than ever, National Journal's Shane Harris reports today (article not available online -- yet, anyway)."
"As National Journal revealed in February, the NSA’s Advanced Research and Development Activity took over TIA and carried on the experimental network in late 2003. ARDA continued vetting new tools and even kept the aggressive experiment schedule. . . documents show."
"But it discontinued some programs, most notably a multimillion-dollar effort to build privacy-protection technologies. ARDA also abandoned the effort to build audit trails in TIA, which would have permanently recorded any abuse by users."
"The National Journal reports the program is now accessed by, among others: the NSA, the CIA, DIA, CENTCOM, the National Counterterorrism Center, the Guantanamo prison, and Special Operations Command (SOCOM)."
Welcome to "1984" in America, folks. Big Brother Gerbil is watching everything we spend. And he calls America, "home of the free?"
Selamat, I like the way you think...we can certainly use the help!
RR and Teak, I will pass along your info to ones I know are involved in that for Ohio.
If you have anything else you think they might not have-but need, let me know. One lady I know has been threatened more than once-and mind you she was just a clerk who spotted some things misaligned in the process. I know too the newspapers have been cooperating with the fraud! That should be impossible.
SPB, The thing I find concerning that these records now exist-these nuts need to remember they are tapped too.
So what do you guys think? Will it come down to "the second American revolution" or is it already happening and the papers ignoring it?
Will Dubya leave office willingly or must he be bodily removed? Will the constitution survive?
Let's hear your best guess in the straw poll.
I am very ready to participate in the next American Revolution...
months ago when the WH started reasserting their right to "pre-emptive military strikes" and ratcheting up the rhetoric on Iran (and the press was eerily quiet) I was threatening to pack up my minivan with my 2 year-old and drive to DC and plant myself on the WH lawn and raise hell) I have never been more angry in my life...
and I'm still angry...
...you can count on my participation
Good morning Justice Bloggers...
yep, selamat ja, these helena messages are really hard to take again and again, day by day...
t, the administration has been called upon retirement repeatedly. finally, the gerbil will be removed by military order. Al Gore will then be declared president.
sealed vs. sealed..."galactic federation" vs. "US" ?
selamat kasijaram!
anon 10:57 AM
"galactic federation, american people" vs. "GLOBALIST/ZIONIST/NEO-CON/NAZI/FACHIST/CIA/SATAN" ?
CC and anon,
I am with you all the way- I love my country and want it back.
I am so sick of feeling the "yoke of oppression" and leaders who fail the Constitution.
I wish I could be a fly on the wall when the Marines come marching in!
What about having the UN come in to watch the elections like they do in other countries whose election process cannot be trusted?
baby, don't listen to these fuckers, you didn't drop the ball on Rove. Wave your viagra pen cause it gave me some good and nasty dreams last night! oooh baby! email you later and explain how to do a little old illuminatae trick that will turn the tides. yours truly dorothy
Thomas Paine said...
2:38 PM
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."
This is weird. We can overthrow any dictatorship the world has, except our own dictatorship?
Let dictator Bush declare martial law over us. That may look like we, the people, are playing into his hands. It is just the opposite.
No other action is stronger to show that we have a dictatorship.
No other action is swifter to bring about change.
No other action is more effective to end the war in Iraq.
Let the US military turn on it's own people. On that day, we become the people of Iraq...and embrace dictator Bush's vision of freedom, democracy and justice.
It will be paradoxically our finest moment in US history, our greatest redemption and salvation.
Looking forward to the next new post!
If you get a chance, take a look at Bobby Kennedy Jr. He's speaking on Link TV at 3PM today. (Link TV is listed on most cable and dish providers)
http://www.linktv.com
He is what this country needs!!!
Bobby Kennedy Jr. Contd.
That's 3pm pacific time.
http://www.thestraights.com/
articles/lulu.htm (following links)
Wealth of info.
If you watched any of the 2000 GOP convention in Philadelphia you saw a sea of black and white faces on stage, but there were few blacks in the ranks of voting delegates out in the audience. So, according to political commentator John Young of the Waco Tribune Herald, the camera shots of the audience kept showing the same black faces over and over. Usually when you saw a picture of George Bush, Jr., he was backed by J. C. Watts, the black congressman form Oklahoma. If you see a photo of George Junior back home in Texas where he is governor, chances are you'll see black political activist Michael Williams of the Texas Railroad Commission. George Senior once made a TV commercial for Straight after receiving a quarter million dollars in donations from Straight co-founders Mel Sembler and Joseph Zappala, and he made the two U.S. ambassadors. Today Mel Sembler is finance chairman for the national GOP and his wife Betty, who is called Ambassadorable by Florida's Governor Jeb Bush, was Jeb's finance co-chairman when he ran for governor.
http://thestraights.com/
financial/financial
-analysis2.htm
Italia vs. USA 1 : 0
Italia vs. USA 1 : 1 great !!
"t said...
What about having the UN come in to watch the elections like they do in other countries whose election process cannot be trusted?"
Yes!!!! I believe during the hanging chads stupidity in Florida, Cuba officially offered to send polling place observers so the election could be fair. You gotta love irony. >;-)
Anonymous and Thomas Paine seem to pretty well have their feet on terra firma. Not so with those that want to defeat the dark ones by blowing hugs and kisses their way.
Those into faith. Faith with what.
I can show you exactly where to place your faith. Here goes. You can judge what Fitz are anyone else
will do in the future by what they have done in the past. What has Fitz done. Some minor charges aginst a minor player named Libby, that can be played out and stalled
within a court of law indefinitely.
Those people of faith can look forward to this. Be happy!
Captain Anon
For Roger and the Whistleblower folks:
Do you all also help out whistleblowers for issues other than election fraud? I have someone to send to you, a special type of police officer who reported wrongdoing and now they are trying to fire him. That is all I will say (and it is already *way too much*) other than I know just enough to think it might fit under the watchful eyes of the same nice folks who nailed George Ryan to the wall. ;-)
"Will Dubya leave office willingly or must he be bodily removed? Will the constitution survive?'
If the Gerbil leaves office, it will be his Daddy advising him to do so. It is all about legacy and reputation among the Bushes. If not, his rear end will be tossed out of office thru impeachment. We don't leave that Feingold is spearheading impeachment. If a majority of the GOP doesn't get into the office in the November election and more scandals come out befre and after November, The Gerbil is finished!
As far as the Constitution, the Constitution will survive. It is the American people that are the major concern. It will take a very long time for people to have the trust and faith in this country as well as the next and fuutre Presidents. This current and lame duck Gerbil President who stole the Presidency lied, cheated, murdered, and raped this country to the fullest! People need to wake up and take back the pride that once was in this country before the Gerbil crawled into the WH 5 years ago.
Did anyone watch the Bobby Kennedy Jr. program? I am sorry to say that I missed it. What was it about?
Regarding this post earlier today:
Anonymous said...
If you get a chance, take a look at Bobby Kennedy Jr. He's speaking on Link TV at 3PM today. (Link TV is listed on most cable and dish providers)
http://www.linktv.com
He is what this country needs!!!
2:38 PM
Folks,
This is an interesting article. The Gerbil is certainly not loved in Austria:
Austria's Haider says Bush is a war criminal
Haider, whose group is part of Austrian Chancellor Wolfgang Schuessel's government coalition, said Bush's meeting with his European peers on Wednesday was pointless as he did not expect the U.S. president to pay attention to what Europe had to tell him.
"He is a war criminal. He brought about the war against Iraq deliberately, with lies and falsehoods," Haider said in an interview with Austrian daily newspaper Die Presse.
"The Iraqi population is suffering terribly. Bush took the risk of an enormous number of victims," said Haider.
Austria's attitude toward the United States has worsened over the last three years, Die Presse reported separately, citing a Eurobarometer poll.
The poll showed 62 percent thought the United States played a negative role for world peace, up from 56 percent in the same poll in 2003, Die Presse said, and 49 percent found the U.S. role in fighting terrorism negative.
http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Ftoday.reuters.com%2Fnews%2FnewsArticle.aspx%3Ftype%3DworldNews%26storyID%3D2006-06-17T142121Z_01_L17725699_RTRUKOC_0_US-AUSTRIA-USA-HAIDER.xml%26archived%3DFalse
Let's not forget the Gropinator in Kalifornia. He is not loved in Austria either after that contraversial execution of the gang member.
SPB,
Have we yet seen the letter from PJF he sent to Roves lawyer? Have we even seen PJF say anything? Why has there not been any statement?
"SPB,Have we yet seen the letter from PJF he sent to Roves lawyer? Have we even seen PJF say anything? Why has there not been any statement?"
Jan,
a) PJF still hasn't seen the "phantom letter" in which Luskin claims to have been faxed by PJF. We at the DOJ office woud love to see that letter. And Jan, there is no letter. Luskin is trying to spin the media.
b) PJF doesn't need to comment or say anything to the meda and public about the "phantom" letter. PJF is simply letting Luskin hang by his words and speech to the media.
c) As say in my prior comments above, PJF or Randall Samburn doesn't need to comment about the letter. And since there is an on going investigation with the case and Rove was not charged with the leaking of the covert's identity only, Fitz knew that if you just simply let get Rove go and tell him that he was not charged with leaking of Wilson's identity, Rove and his henchman attorney would buy the beans and brag to the media about Fitz's trump investigation on Rove. By Fitz and Samburn staying mum about any comments to the case, Fitz knew that Luskin would distort information to the media. Rove is not in the clear so he thinks. And keep your eye on Luskin. He certainly is in hot water... I hope that this answers your questions, Jan!
SPB,
Yes it does. Thank you :)
Grandmanuk:
In what capacity do you believe RFK Jr. would be a good fit for?
SPB:
I am just waiting for that moment...when Fitz does his 'checkmate' and says Merry Fitzmas! I know it's coming and if those who don't believe it is, they will be in for a shock! :)
Out of the fuzzy idea folder:
How could a counter offensive against the shadow government-the subversives-not have been prepped for?
Surely, professionals in law enforcement would have taken early notice of a coup in progress. Would the AIPAC prosecution not not be a clue? Or a turning point?
[Tin foil interjection: Bolton visits a jailed Judy Miller, and laments: 'We're ph__ck'd. Then leaves. I never could figure out why he would show such a brazen link to a nocomrad.]
I mean why hasn't the audacious pipsqueak Gonzales fired Fitz long ago? There's a muffled war going on right now. People like Tenet and Ashcroft and Powell (& his Son) may very well be a superpatriots...
...along with Mueller and others-which would compell me to issue a public apology to the man and his loyals, incidently but seriously.
These things seem to haunt my moments now, along with images of a large force of federal marshalls extracating the Pimp and all his hoes.
Back into the folder with thee.
Out of the fuzzy idea folder:
How could a counter offensive against the shadow government-the subversives-not have been prepped for?
Surely, professionals in law enforcement would have taken early notice of a coup in progress. Would the AIPAC prosecution not not be a clue? Or a turning point?
[Tin foil interjection: Bolton visits a jailed Judy Miller, and laments: 'We're ph__ck'd. Then leaves. I never could figure out why he would show such a brazen link to a nocomrad.]
I mean why hasn't the audacious pipsqueak Gonzales fired Fitz long ago? There's a muffled war going on right now. People like Tenet and Ashcroft and Powell (& his Son) may very well be a superpatriots...
...along with Mueller and others-which would compell me to issue a public apology to the man and his loyals, incidently but seriously.
These things seem to haunt my moments now, along with images of a large force of federal marshalls extracating the Pimp and all his hoes.
Back into the folder with thee.
Thanks Roger! I believe the whistleblower in question is looking more for ideas and publicity, not so much for money. Anyway, I am sure he will make contact.
I am trying to stay out of it as much as possible because I still have to work with all those people.
Did any of you hear that speech by the late President John F. Kennedy?
It is posted at the C and D, is mostly about the media doing it's job, free speech and the gov't being held accountable. It is very powerful. It is worth a listen to hear the voice and words again (for me the first time, I was 2 when he passed) from a real leader.
Teak:
I love the Kennedys and I think JFK may have been one of our best President's in the history of this country!
http://www.kcsmartport.com/
Wonder if this is why Kansas didn't their bases closed, but in fact are expanding Fort Reilly. Rapid deploy. The old salty Pat Roberts grinning like a possum eating sh!t when Bush went to K-State.
*****
Kansas City SmartPort Inc. is an "investor based organization supported by the public and private sector" to create the key hub on the NAFTA Super Highway. At the Kansas City SmartPort, the containers from the Far East can be transferred to trucks going east and west, dramatically reducing the ground transportation time dropping the containers off in Los Angeles or Long Beach involves for most of the country. A brochure on the SmartPort website describes the plan in glowing terms: "For those who live in Kansas City, the idea of receiving containers nonstop from the Far East by way of Mexico may sound unlikely, but later this month that seemingly far-fetched notion will become a reality."
s-q
I laughed and cried hearing President Kennedy's speech this morning. How far this country as fallen.
Everyone should listen.
I was just a young girl when he was killed and I remember everyone was crying. That was a very sad day for America.
Just watched "Dead Wrong - Inside an Intelligence Meltdown" on CNN. Interesting, happy to hear some people at the "top" finally admitting mistakes. I've not been watching much CNN, because it's mostly BS.
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/37487/
http://www.rawstory.com
/news/2006/PBS_Frontline_
Inside_battle_between_Cheney_0617.html
Tenet chose to stay, but after the failure to find Iraqi WMD, the tension between the agency and Cheney's allies grew to the point that some in the administration believed the CIA had launched a covert war to undermine the president. The film shows how in response, Cheney's office waged a campaign to distance itself from the prewar intelligence the vice president had helped to cultivate. Under pressure, Tenet resigned. Cheney's chief of staff, Scooter Libby, would later admit to leaking key sections of the NIE -- authorized, he says, by Cheney. Libby also stated that the vice president told him that President Bush had declassified the material. Insiders tell FRONTLINE that the leak was part of the battle between the vice president and the CIA.
Holy Smokes! I cannot wait for this program.
Final posting to add to Teak's comments about Darth Cheney, Luke Skywalker's real father:
PBS Frontline: Inside the battle between Vice President Cheney and CIA to control the 'dark side'
FRONTLINE goes behind the headlines to investigate the internal war that was waged between the intelligence community and Richard Bruce Cheney, the most powerful vice president in the nation's history," says the press release.
After the attacks on 9/11, Cheney seized the initiative and pushed for expanding presidential power, transforming America's intelligence agencies, and bringing the war on terror to Iraq. Cheney's primary ally in this effort was Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
"You have this wiring diagram that we all know of about national security, but now there's a new line on it. There's a line from the vice president directly to the secretary of defense, and it's as though there's a private line, private communication between those two," former National Security Council staffer Richard Clarke tells FRONTLINE.
Good night! Hasta Manana! Signing off!
I can't tell Condi Rice from Moms Mabley.
SPB 9.30
Bush in Europ - see my blogspot:
http://dream-soldier.blogspot.com/2006/06/haider-natrlich-ist-bush-ein.html
Here's a song that stuck me the other day as reflecting our time:
Garden State Soundtrack Lyrics
Artist: Zero 7 Lyrics
Song: In The Waiting Line Lyrics:
Wait in line
'Till your time
Ticking clock
Everyone stop
Everyone's saying different things to me
Different things to me
Everyone's saying different things to me
Different things to me
Do you believe
In what you see
There doesn't seem to be anybody else who agrees with me
Do you believe
In what you see
Motionless wheel
Nothing is real
Wasting my time
In the waiting line
Do you believe in
What you see
Nine to five
Living lies
Everyday
Stealing time
Everyone's taking everything they can
Everything they can
Everyone's taking everything they can
Everything they can
Do you believe
In what you feel
It doesn't seem to be anybody else who agrees with me
Do you believe
In what you see
Motionless wheel
Nothing is real
Wasting my time
In the waiting line
Do you believe
In what you see
Ah and I'll shout and I'll scream
But I'd rather not have seen
And I'll hide away for another day
Do you believe
In what you see
Motionless wheel
Nothing is real
Wasting my time
In the waiting line
Do you believe
In what you see
Everyone's saying different things to me
Different things to me
Different things to me
Different things to me
Different things to me
Everyone's taking everything they can
Everything they can
The meeting must have been a real snoozer. From Cheney's perspective, anyway
photo
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I've been thinking he's been on meds to keep his weak heart from racing from his fear of Fitz.
Maybe we should be grateful that Mr. Bush finally has demonstrated to humanity the futility of solving our problems by war and violence. Personally I thought that the Americans had learnt that lesson in Vietnam, but I was wrong.
If we haven't learnt this lesson now, all the deaths, suffering and destruction will be for nothing!
If we haven't learnt this lesson now, it won't take much more for us to destroy our civilization along with Mother Earth.
But if we finally have learnt the lesson, humanity will disarm, destroy all weapons, clean up the planet, and raise our consciousness to a higher level where we cooperate with each other and solve any differences in a civilized and peaceful manner without anger and aggression. That is our only chance for survival. Are we gonna take it?
D
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Anon 1040 the word is "learned" not learnt.
Not to nit-pick...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread212773/pg1
The Secret Battle Over WMDs
Corrupt politics and lies in the "War on Terrorism"?
Exclusive ATSNN Interview with Paul (Dave) Gaubatz, formerly of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations.Claims WMD had been or still are in Iraq, but the government ignored his reports
Anon @ 11:10
Thanks for the grammar lesson. I hope that's not all we have learned!
D
D,
I learnt. :)
Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening folks!
Happy Sunday and Father's Day to all!
Dream Soldier,
Thanks for sharing the article!
Ich habe nicht erkannt, wie viel Österreich wirklich die Springmaus hasst. Überall geht der Präsident Rechtschreibungen stören. Die Österreicher wollen Frau Clinton als Präsident als die Springmaus. Es sieht aus, wie Österreich eine Annahme von einer Frau hat, ist ein Präsident. Ich hoffe, dass die Amerikanisch Leute einen Frauenpräsidenten annehmen können. Dies zeigt uns, wie rückwärts wir in diesem Land sind. Sie können sehen, dass die Springmaus nichts macht, wenn er Österreich besucht. Er ist nur dort, etwas von jenem Land zu erhalten. Ich bin froh, dass Österreich zähe Fragen zur Springmaus um den Krieg in Irak und anderen Ausgaben stellen wird. Auch weiß Österreich, dass die Springmaus kein Leiter ist. Er war nie ein Leiter in den Vereinigten Staaten. Er ist nur eine Puppe, die auf für Erscheinung gestützt ist. Der wirkliche Präsident, der das weiße Haus für fünf Jahre gelaufen worden ist, ist Cheney. Ich erwarte Protest in Österreich auf dem Besuch der Springmaus. Er ist sicher ungeliebt in jenem Land!
yes, 10 40, we will. sooner or later, somehow we will.
Vat is it mit der deutsh, Biloxi?
Pardon talk for Libby?
How soon?
Newsday
Thanks Jan, I'm glad that you have the priorities straight - and that you decided to remove your post about arms.
D
So much for the trial...
Powerfull Govt crime syndicate pulling hard on the one armed slot machine...
"insert coins, pull plunger
ker plunk.."
Roll....roll...roll...roll..
Ding
CIA Leak investigation falls in tatters
Ding
CIA Leak investigation falls in
tatters
Ding
CIA Leak investigation falls in
tatters..
Ding Ding Ding Ding...
Republicans win again!
Yep, that's what happens when
you live outside the law.
I'm not bitter tho...
Love for everybody
_______
from Washington Post:
Former Antiterror Officials Find Industry Pays Better
By ERIC LIPTON
WASHINGTON, June 17 — Dozens of members of the Bush administration's domestic security team, assembled after the 2001 terrorist attacks, are now collecting bigger paychecks in different roles: working on behalf of companies that sell domestic security products, many directly to the federal agencies the officials once helped run...
...Federal law prohibits senior executive branch officials from lobbying former government colleagues or subordinates for at least a year after leaving public service. But by exploiting loopholes in the law — including one provision drawn up by department executives to facilitate their entry into the business world — it is often easy for former officials to do just that...
...In their new roles, former department officials often command salaries that dwarf their government paychecks. Carol A. DiBattiste, who made $155,000 in 2004 as deputy administrator at the Transportation Security Administration, earned more than $934,000 last year from ChoicePoint, a Homeland Security Department contractor she joined in April 2005, the same month she left the agency.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/18/
washington/18lobby.html?ex=1308283200&en=a2e840d206b16195&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
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Bush-cheney Mantra: SHOW ME THE MONEY
Guarenteed--LIBBY will be pardoned.
Dear Fitzie,
Hope things are going well for you this weekend. Your supporters are still haninging in there...even in the midst of evil, intimidation, lies, media spin, and pervasive corruption...we are here.
We'll be glad to hear from you soon.
Go Team Fitzie!
CORRECTION: previous quote taken from New York Times as you can see by the link...
I haven't even had a glass of wine...LOL
Jules,
I have a very good teacher, Waterflake, who is German. I am still learning of course..
Chimpcoulter,
Man, that is why we are in so much debt in country. The Gerbil is making sure that hie base and friends are good high paying jobs and business! It is truly a shame!
anon @ 1:37
"Guarenteed--LIBBY will be pardoned."
Well, bring it on, cowboy! Go ahead and pardon smurf boy -- we are ready for a revolt at any time now, and sure enough that might just put it in action...
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Happy Father's Day Justice Bloggers!
SQ
Here's the info on the Bobby Kennedy Jr. speech:
http://www.linktv.org/programming/programDescription.php4?code=rfk
LinkTv are running a funding drive at the moment. I am impressed with the programs I've been watching there.
Good Afternoon SPB,
You are right about Gerbil (although I always see Georgie as a monkey -- look at the apey faces he makes most of the time)-- bankrupting this country...
I watched John Murtha on "Meet the Press" this morning and found the transcript, because this particular part of the interview deserves repeating.
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MR. RUSSERT: John Kerry, the Democratic nominee in 2004, who voted for the war, gave a speech this week and he said this: “Let me say it plainly: It’s not enough to argue with the logistics or to argue about the details or the manner of the conflict’s execution or the failures of competence, as great as they are.
“It is essential to acknowledge that the war itself was a mistake ... to say the simple words that contain more truth than pride.
“We were misled. We were given evidence that was not true. It was wrong, and I was wrong to vote for that Iraqi war resolution.”
Do you believe any Democrat who seeks the nomination for president in 2008, who voted for the war in Iraq, should publicly say not just the war’s been mismanaged, “I was wrong to vote for the war.”
REP. MURTHA: Yeah, it’s obvious. It was a mistake. And I’ve said this from the very start. I mean, you had no weapons of mass destruction, you had no connection with al-Qaeda, there was no danger to our national security. We don’t put young people in harm’s way unless we have a threat to our national security.
I’m in a hospital, young woman’s standing there beside her wound—badly wounded husband, and she says he’s been in Iraq twice, and he enlisted to fight for America, not for Iraq. We want stability; it’s an international problem. But, but we, we, we can’t achieve it in the direction they’re going. These, these comments they make about cutting and running, so forth and so on, that doesn’t, that doesn’t solve the problem. What is their plan? They have no plan. And we’re, we’re recruiting terrorists against us, Tim. That’s the problem.
Thank you anon @ 1:45! :)
Well, bring it on, cowboy! Go ahead and pardon smurf boy -- we are ready for a revolt at any time now, and sure enough that might just put it in action...
You know that BUSH will do it.His intelligence is not up to par with most former Presidents but he insists on Loyalty.
He will not leave Libby hanging and after the process he will do it.
It will be like giving the country a parting finger.Its just a matter of time.
Have you seen how FRISKY ROVE is right now,taking political shots at people left and right from his air conditioned bunker.
He may just be able to help get enough Reps re-elected so that the status quo remains and nothing changes.And that is the reality of it all.
S-Q
Thanks for the Murtha quotes...He is an American hero for speaking out...I'm tired of all the other political chickens...
CC: (No offense but I can't stand that name "Coulter"...ugh!)
Yes, Murtha is indeed a hero! We need more people like him to speak out and not be afraid to tell the truth.
He sure nailed it when he said this about Rove:
REP. MURTHA: He’s, he’s in New Hampshire. He’s making a political speech. He’s sitting in his air conditioned office with his big, fat backside, saying, “Stay the course.” That’s not a plan. I mean, this guy—I don’t know what his military experience is, but that’s a political statement. This is a policy difference between me and the White House. I disagree completely with what he’s saying."
S-Q -- yes that is my favorite quote too.
I understand your dislike for that name. As much as I despise her, her venom words and her cowardly vile ways -- I'm already attached to ChimpC****** (edited for your harmony) alias...
Chimpcoulter,
A bankrupt country indeed. We are going to turn into a subsidary of either China or Saudi Arabia thanks to the Gerbil! And the debt that we owed to Saudias can't be paid off!
And the smurf is not going to be pardoned.. People are forgetting about Darth Cheney and still Rove under radar from Fitzgerald. I am looking forward to Libby's trial in January. Best believe that Cheney will be under radar when he testifies in his flunkie's trial. And decision that the Gerbil makes will be run by his daddy! the Gerbil can't make any decisions on his own. The only decision that he makes on his own is the bottle!
LOL! CC...that's okay. There are several names that disgust me right now. You know what I mean, I'm sure.
Happy Father's Day to all of you dads!! Have a good one.
I am off to see a movie shortly...
Folks, this really saddens me about Katrina victim housing:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061806Y.shtml
"The US Department of Housing and Urban Development has announced they plan to demolish over five thousand public housing apartments in New Orleans. HUD's demolition plans leave thousands of families with no hope of returning to New Orleans, where rental housing is scarce and costly," writes Bill Quigley. "How can thousands of low-income working families come home if HUD has fenced off their apartments, put metal shutters over their windows and doors and now plans to demolish their homes?"
Folks,
More news:
Interesting about Murtha:
"MURTHA: He’s in New Hampshire. He’s making a political speech. He’s sitting in his air-conditioned office on his big, fat backside, saying stay the course. That’s not a plan. I don’t know what his military experience is, but that’s a political statement. This is a policy difference between me and the White House. I disagree completely with what he’s saying."
Go Murtha!
2. Interesting:
"Bush has powerful incentives to pardon Libby, however. They range from rewarding past loyalty to ending the awkward revelations emerging from pretrial motions, a flow that could worsen in his trial next year.
By demanding sensitive, sometimes embarrassing materials, some say, Libby appears to be goading the White House into issuing a pardon. Libby's spokeswoman did not respond to questions about a pardon.
One attorney familiar with the Plame case said Bush might find that it is in his interest to pardon Libby sooner rather than later.
A pardon before the trial could could cut off the disclosures and spare Vice President Dick Cheney from testifying as Fitzgerald's witness about Libby, his former chief of staff.
But the timing of a pardon, the attorney suggested, likely would depend on the outcome of the midterm elections.
If Republicans retain control of Congress, Bush could act swiftly. But if Democrats win control of the House or Senate, Bush might wait, and use Libby's trial as an excuse not to cooperate with any congressional investigations into the leak.
The counterargument to a pardon this year or next, however, is that it would be a political bombshell and distract from Bush's agenda.
In filings, Fitzgerald argues Libby's lies obstructed him.
But a pardon for Libby at any time also carries political risk.
Ford lost the 1976 election, for example, and the elder Bush and Clinton were tainted in the controversies over their pardons."
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsday.com%2Fnews%2Fnationworld%2Fnation%2Fny-uspard0618%2C0%2C6413799%2Cprint.story%3Fcoll%3Dny-leadnationalnews-headlines
The article doesn't mention about the Gerbil's involvement in the leak case? Who will pardon the Gerbil?
3. My favorite. The photo of the day: Bush's crucial meeting at Camp David on June 13 for the cabinet:
http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fmpetrelis.blogspot.com%2F2006%2F06%2Fafp-photo-of-cheney-nodding-off-at.html
And very appropriate for Father's day!
From Thinkprogress:
Snow: There Is Too Much Focus on Kidnapped U.S. Soldiers
On Friday, two U.S. troops were kidnapped at a checkpoint in Iraq. They remain missing. This morning on Fox News Sunday, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow criticized the press for spending too much time covering their plight.
You can take Snowjob out of Fox News, but you can't take the Fox News out of Snowjob.
Lies, the source of truth....
...and facts.
I depend on Mr Cheney's accuracy. So far, Mr. Cheney's lies, have proven, with 100% accuracy, that his lies are really lies.
So I sign off with a happy fathers' day and good news...
...and rest assured: he will stay the course... :)
"Cheney Sees GOP Winning Midterm Elections"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp-dyn/content/article/
2006/06/15/AR2006061501334.html
Hi eveybody I know I'm late I slept more today I guess I needed it. Happy Father's Day to all.
My Dad has passed but he's always in my heart so he's really not gone at all.
Now as for Tony Snow statements well he's sinking them more in a negative light. Tony is dumb or insane. Cheney is close to sleeping for good. These are the signs of the end is coming fast. Fitz you might not have Cheney around to indict but don't worry he can't take anything with him and he has a higher power to answer to. Have a great day all I'm going to church now.
"American Revolution" on History channel tonight, 10pm (EST).
Biloxi,
Here's a longer skid of the Meet the Press Interview..
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/18.html#a8760
Iraq
Apocalypse NOW
Warning; Graphic statements..
Somebody please make this stop
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-2214219,00.html]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-2214219,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C2089-2230672%2C00.html]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C2089-2230672%2C00.html
Links above broken..
here are the working links
above...
APOCALYPSE IRAQ!
http://tinyurl.com/gj9lw
http://tinyurl.com/f4swz
S-Q said...
Did anyone watch the Bobby Kennedy Jr. program? I am sorry to say that I missed it. What was it about?
filing the first suit next week
Bobby, Mike and Matt Schultz, an attorney with Levin Papantonio, discuss their lawsuits against Diebold and the other electronic voting machine companies that helped the Republicans steal Ohio in 2004.
Link
Pardon talk begins
for ex-VP chief Libby
BY TOM BRUNE
Newsday Washington Bureau
June 17, 2006, 10:48 PM EDT
WASHINGTON -- Now that top White House aide Karl Rove is off the hook in the CIA leak probe, President George W. Bush must weigh whether to pardon former vice presidential aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the only one indicted in the three-year investigation.
Speculation about a pardon began in late October, soon after Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald unsealed the perjury indictment of Libby, and it continued last week after Fitzgerald chose not to charge Rove.
"I think ultimately, of course, there are going to be pardons," said Joseph diGenova, a former prosecutor and an old Washington hand who shares that view with many pundits.
"These are the kinds of cases in which historically presidents have given pardons," said the veteran Republican attorney.
The White House remains mum on the president's intentions. Spokeswoman Dana Perino declined to comment Friday.
Bush has powerful incentives to pardon Libby, however. They range from rewarding past loyalty to ending the awkward revelations emerging from pretrial motions, a flow that could worsen in his trial next year.
Libby was indicted for lying in Fitzgerald's probe into who in the administration leaked the identity of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame to reporters in 2003, apparently to undercut her husband's attack on Bush's war-justifying claim that Iraq sought uranium in Niger.
By demanding sensitive, sometimes embarrassing materials, some say, Libby appears to be goading the White House into issuing a pardon. Libby's spokeswoman did not respond to questions about a pardon.
One attorney familiar with the Plame case said Bush might find that it is in his interest to pardon Libby sooner rather than later.
A pardon before the trial could could cut off the disclosures and spare Vice President Dick Cheney from testifying as Fitzgerald's witness about Libby, his former chief of staff.
But the timing of a pardon, the attorney suggested, likely would depend on the outcome of the midterm elections.
If Republicans retain control of Congress, Bush could act swiftly. But if Democrats win control of the House or Senate, Bush might wait, and use Libby's trial as an excuse not to cooperate with any congressional investigations into the leak.
The counterargument to a pardon this year or next, however, is that it would be a political bombshell and distract from Bush's agenda.
DiGenova predicted that Bush, like other presidents, would issue controversial pardons on his last day in office.
As president, Bush has constitutional power to issue a pardon at any time -- even before a crime is charged. And presidents of both parties have pardoned political friends.
In 1974, for example, President Gerald Ford pardoned ex-President Richard Nixon for any crimes he might have committed. In 2001, President Bill Clinton pardoned convicted political friends as he left office.
A few weeks before leaving office in January 1993, President George H.W. Bush granted Christmas Eve pardons to six Reagan-Bush officials charged in the Iran-Contra scandal, including two whose trials were about to start.
To justify the controversial pardons, the elder Bush blamed "the criminalization of policy differences." That "troubling development," he said, was created by an independent counsel probe of how the executive branch evaded a congressional ban on funding Nicaraguan Contras by selling arms to Iran and sending proceeds to Contras.
DiGenova said that similarly, Fitzgerald's prosecution of Libby "is the epitome of the criminalization of the political process." Fitzgerald, he said, has found no evidence of the underlying offense -- the knowing revelation of a covert agent's protected identity.
In filings, Fitzgerald argues Libby's lies obstructed him.
But a pardon for Libby at any time also carries political risk.
Ford lost the 1976 election, for example, and the elder Bush and Clinton were tainted in the controversies over their pardons.
Democrats have already indicated they will go on the attack. Last fall, their congressional leaders wrote Bush urging him to pledge not to pardon Libby. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Bush did not respond.
"I think it would be very wrong to pardon Scooter Libby, and I doubt the president would do it," Schumer said Friday. "It would cause him real damage."
Copyright 2006 Newsday Inc.
Global Evildoer Fighter:
I taped Meetthe press this morning with Murtha. And he is right on the money about Porkrind. And Fitzgerald will knock the airconditioned fat backside of Porkrind real soon...
SPB:
Murtha was great this morning!
I hope we can all sing "Merry Fitzmas" soon! We are patiently waiting...
Kangaroo Brisbane Australia:
Thank you for the info! :)
I think that a lot of us got behind the special prosecutor believing him to be the representation of our system of checks and balances...and, that the system would work.
Sadly, it doesn't work. When push comes to shove corporate power overwhelms justice in the U.S. today.
A very close friend of mine has argued cases against Mr. Fitzgerald and tells me that he is a real straight shooter, has great integrity and feels the rule of law trumps all.
Does Mr. Fitzgerald get the magnitude of the case he is dealing with? I think he does. So, what happened? Seems there is a huge case here. Does the last strand of justice take a powder or does our Constitution still have legs?
I guess we are going to find out soon!
The picture of Cheney sleeping through another meeting was quite funny, not for seeing him asleep, but for Bush's clothing color blending in with the furniture in the background. He looked like a disembodied head.
*****
I hope you all did something to honor your fathers today, whether they are still with us or if they left this Earth already sometime in the past. Maybe some of you got honored yourself today.
:-)
Have a great day!
This might get me punk'd later, but SPB's spelling and grammar are much better in German than they are English.
Waterflake 1
American School System 0
And now I am going to hide . . .
>;-)
Jackie:
My dad passed away several years ago also. However, I still remember his wonderful smile and his twinkling eyes. I wish every girl could have a dad like the one I had. :)
"SPB's spelling and grammar are much better in German than they are English."
Yes, Night Owl. You are dead meat. I'm better in German than English grammar? Night Owl, we have a sitting lame duck Gerbil that talks Gerbil burble to the media and other international leaders??? Hello! The Gerbil talks from his rear end at times. I know I needed a laugh you got me.. I will make sure Fitzgerald will have me personally slap you with the handcuffs as we haul you out from Iowa! Maybe indict you for 10 counts of poking fun at the Special Prosecutor!
U.S. vs. Night Owl
case number: 123456
(Sealed vs. Sealed)
Ditto S-q Those are things that stay with us for life, that way we never really let our Dad's go. I too smile and laugh when ever I think of my Dad. We are really lucky s-q to have such wonderfull Dads.
Night Owl:
Watch for flying things wearing capes and tights! One may look like Superman and the other like Batman! LOL
SPB:
I noticed the Gerbil kept saying to the media, there is an "ongoing trial." The trial hasn't actually started yet, so he should have said "ongoing investigation." When will the Gerbil ever get it right?
GMNUK, RFK Jr. is on Americas side, I like him too. With wealth comes responsibility. Kennedy's were good at teaching their clan that.
"Ring of Fire" good show. Dads are great. My dad- even if he didn't agree with a word I said-would support my right to say it. I guess that was the old brand of republican- which I am sorry he is!
I am an independent-totally non-political until the war. I made that call based soley on the evidence that didn't exist to do it.They keep turning this war into a political event. I'm happy to see Murtha keep fighting.
s-q spb noticed that too-what's with that? or just stupid again
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