Jul 27, 2006

Paint The Town Brown...

Michael Brown Comes Out Swinging in a Playboy Interview


Brownie, you give a heckuva interview! Former FEMA chief Michael Brown unloads about his post-Katrina downfall in the August issue of Playboy -- calling himself a "scapegoat," warning that the nation is even "less-prepared" for this year's hurricane season, and sharing some PG-13 opinions of former colleagues.

· On Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), accusing him in a hearing of not comprehending the devastation: "For that little twerp to claim I didn't understand death and suffering -- he can just bite me, for all I care."

· On President Bush saying the levee breaches were unexpected: "He doesn't have an incredible command of the English language."

· On DHS boss Michael Chertoff ordering him out of the field: "I am so mad at myself for not saying 'screw you.' "

· On Bush calling him "Brownie": "It's typical of the president. He's a cheerleader . . . How many people in the world do you think have ever called me Brownie? . . . When he used that nickname, a lot of people in the media went, Is he an insider?"

· On his much-mocked prior job with the International Arabian Horse Association: "Dealing with horses' asses taught me how to deal with the federal government."

Brownie, be-haaave!

162 Comments:

Blogger FBI said...

Good Morning Fitzie and Justice Bloggers!

LOL @ Brownie's remarks:

"Dealing with horses' asses taught me how to deal with the federal government." too funny

On President Bush saying the levee breaches were unexpected: "He doesn't have an incredible command of the English language." ...that has to be the understatement of the year!

8:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Triple Venti, no fat, no foam, extra hot, with pink sugar, and it's all your fault Starbucks that I'm behind in the polls..."

8:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Bush is my homeboy...but to be honest I probably don't want my homey campaigning for me"

8:42 AM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

Good Morning Everyone,

Here's enough to get the blood boiling without much coffee...from ABC the Note. Rover is lucky I didn't know where he was-I would have protested him for sure!
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Ohio:
After his appearance at a Republican Party fundraiser in Columbus, OH last night, Karl Rove expressed his confidence in GOP candidates that seem to be trailing their respective Democratic opponents in the Ohio gubernatorial and Senate races. Rove praised both J. Kenneth Blackwell and Sen. Mike DeWine for their strong campaign messages and resources and encouraged them to repeat the Republican victory in 2004 while slamming Democrats for the two issues he views as most important: national security and the economy.

The AP Notes Karl Rove isn't showing any signs of duress in Ohio's tight races for governor and Senate, telling the crowd of 350 at a fundraiser last night that "I feel very good" about Blackwell's and DeWine's prospects. Said Rove, "They've got good campaigns, strong messages, and the resources to get it done."
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Resources, huh? Just like last time you cheated Ohioans, Rover? It won't happen again, we're onto ya...

8:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ralph Reed is the embodiment of Christian Values like "Love Thy Neighbor." In fact, Ralph's neighbor is Jack Abramoff...

9:05 AM  
Blogger FBI said...

Please check out on HuffPo the video of "Watch the Freeway Blogger Reach 100,000 People for under $1.00"...it's hysterical and a great idea...just love me a creative American for good...

I might have to buy some white paint today an dig up some cardboard...

9:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WSJ spins poll results to show good news for Bush

RAW STORY
Published: Thursday July 27, 2006

A poll completed by the Wall Street Journal and NBC News was presented to show good news for the Bush administration in today's Wall Street Journal, RAW STORY has found.

The report on the poll by the Journal's Senior Contributing Writer John Harwood states that "In the Journal/NBC poll, approval of Mr. Bush's job performance inched up to 39% from 37% last month, but a 56% majority disapproves of the president's job performance. Congress fares even worse, with 25% approval and 60% disapproval."

However, the survey results in PDF format show that there is a margin of error in the poll's findings of 3.1% in either direction. When confronted with similar results, a USA Today/Gallup Poll stated that "President George W. Bush's job approval rating holding in the same range" because the maring of error meant that there was no statistically significant change in Bush's approval ratings.

An NBC News report on the same poll also shows the contrast in findings with the Journal's reporting. Political reporter Mark Murray wrote "Yet perhaps the most revealing finding in the poll is how little the political environment has changed in the past year. For the eighth straight survey since October 2005, President Bush's job approval rating sits below 40 percent; for the fourth straight time since March, just a third approve of his handling of Iraq; and also for a fourth straight time since March, only a quarter believe the nation is headed in the right direction."

9:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOP Senator Norm Coleman's father in public sex bust

RAW STORY
Published: Thursday July 27, 2006

A report in this morning's Roll Call shows that Norm Coleman, Sr., the father of Minnesota Republican Senator Norm Coleman, was arrested after he was caught having sex in public in St. Paul, Minnesota, RAW STORY has learned.

Coleman's father was arrested for lewd and disorderly conduct after he was found having sex outside a pizzeria with 38-year old Patrizia Marie Schrag. Norm Coleman, Sr., is 81-years old.

Senator Coleman released a statement declaring “I love my father dearly. I do not condone his actions or behavior, and I am deeply disturbed by what I have learned. He clearly has some issues that need to be dealt with, and I will encourage him to seek the necessary help.”

Coleman, Sr., was a constant presence during his son's 2002 Senate campaign, in which he ran neck and neck with Democrat Paul Wellstone until the incumbent died in a plane crash. A November 3, 2002 article in Minnesota's Star Tribune reported "Coleman's father, Norman Sr., travels with his son these days, campaigning. The mayor holds him up as a hero, a veteran of the Normandy invasion and the Battle of the Bulge. "He's the smartest man I know," Coleman said."

9:59 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening folks!

TGIT!

Here is some funny that Waterflake along to me yesterday:

A Gerbil Postage Stamp

Well, the top of the story is Brownie spilling his guts on Payboy. And what is up with people like Brownie and McCain flocking to Playboy to spill their guts. What are they doing mixing business with pleasure?

WSJ has some issue.. They are certainly in the backpocket of the Gerbil. Now, they are saying the poll numbers for the Gerbil are great news? Please...

And now another GOP in a scandal. So, Daddy Coleman was caught having sex in public.. And they shouldn't get on the cases of singer George Michael and actor Hugh Grant! Well, and that tell you that the old man didn't need viagra and his pilot is working just fine....

11:54 AM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

CNN just reported that Exxon-Mobil is making $79,000 per MINUTE!
Now, that is disgusting!!

12:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Raw has a story up that says

"Justice Department Wants to Spy at Home"

12:04 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

More on the Shug/Gerbil/Laura saga of The Sin and Sinful

From WMR:

July 27, 2006 -- Laura Bush ditches George, heads north to Alaska. The following was posted today by Douglas Yates on Fairbanks Open Radio:

"According to an informed sources, Laura Bush is vacationing in Denali National Park. It’s Laura’s secret adventure; she’s flying solo. George was not invited. The president’s wife arrived Sunday and dined at '229,' near Carlo Creek. On Monday, she toured the park’s visitor center, although her visit was without the usual fanfare. There was no public announcement. Few, if any, of the park’s multitudes took notice. The LL Bean-clad secret service detail appeared more visible than their charge. All visitor center employees were instructed via memo to look their best. Laura then traveled, presumably via helicopter, to one of Kantishna’s high-end resorts. On Friday, she’s scheduled at a luncheon at the Murie Science and Learning Center, where she’ll meet a group of university students. Denali National Park offers Laura a cool respite from the rigors of Washington, D.C. in July. And given the rumors that are swirling around her marriage, it’s as far away from George as one can get and not leave the country."

WMR previously reported that the First Lady and Mr. Bush were having marital problems as a result of an ongoing affair between Mr. Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Perhaps Mrs. Bush will find out first hand about the ravages of global warming in the Arctic during her visit to Alaska and tell her mentally retarded husband that global warming is not "silly science."

12:23 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Ha, ha, ha, ha,:

Just keep your eye on when Shug takes her vacation and see if her vacation time coincides with the Gerbil. It certainly will be a long hot summer for brown Shug and the Gerbil!(Body slapping from doing the wild thang!)


"And those Repugs really don't know how to keep their pants up, huh?" Yup, can't hold on to their pipe! Hard up and hard down as they say! The GOP old geezer should have gotten a motel room but I guess couldn't hold it much longer!

12:50 PM  
Blogger airJackie said...

Brownie in Playboy how low will he go for the money. A senator's father having sex what ever. Connie is called correctly an imbecile. Now Laura is vacationing without the Gerbil I wonder if her rich Texan friend made the same vacation plans? Steele is back stepping on the homeboy front. If Bush is now a homeboy there goes the neighborhood. I really don't think anyone should use this blog as a campaign posting. We all live in different states with different problems I guess if one chooses they can email someone to suggest that. I feel bad for the honest Republicans who are judged by so many bad ones, there are some bad Dems too. But this election will be on how many minorites come out and vote. If the Spanish people vote in large numbers it's all over for the GOP. So much corruption and lies have caught up with these guys. I noticed at while the US is invading countries and supporting others to invade. Russia has support Venezuela's request to join the UN. Isn't Venezuela one of Bush's axis of evil. The world leaders know that Bush and his Administration are liars, now the US isn't inclued in talks with other world leaders. Connie is seen for what she is as North Korea said an imbecile and the world leaders agree. The United States can do better then this and must clean out the White House. Vote for who ever you want but vote.

12:57 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

SPB:
The Sin and the Sinful! LOL
You should write a screenplay and I think your movie would be a box office hit! You are so funny and make me laugh so much!! :)
But, I have to ask, who would play the Gerbil, the Robot and Shug? LOL

1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If Bush is now a homeboy there goes the neighborhood."

LOL, Jackie...

1:12 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

And that is certainly the quote of the day from Jackie! Now, ask the Gerbil what does "homeboy" mean? The Gerbil will say that homeboy is a boy in a home! We know he is not hip on inner city language since he felt like he had hives when he had to deal with Kartina victims!

In other news:

A big smile on my face!


JudgeLake Denies Skilling’s Request to Overturn Conviction

Without explanation, U.S. District Judge Sim Lake issued an order today denying a request by former Enron CEO Jeff Skilling to overturn his convictions. Judge Lake has yet to rule on federal prosecutors’ request to order Skilling to forfeit roughly $140 million he allegedly earned from the fraud at Enron.

Unskilling Skilling is definitely hosed big time. Probably, Skilling will try to dig up the grave of Lay to get him to help him out! No chance on that!

2. From WSJ, a follwoup to the NatWest Three! I am choked up from them. Not!


The NatWest Three: Far from Their Children
Posted by Peter Lattman


The so-called NatWest Three — the former British bankers facing Enron-related charges — are stuck in Houston after a judge ruled last week that they cannot go back to England pending their September trial. Today, the NatWest Three’s lead singer David Bermingham gives an interview to the Houston Chronicle, his temporary hometown paper. Here are a few nuggets from the Q&A:
• Q: How did you find out you were being targeted by Enron investigators?
A: On the 28th of June, 2002, I woke up and we were on the breakfast news as having been charged in Houston. That’s how we found out about it. One of many remarkable features of our case is that at no stage have we ever been contacted by anybody from U.S. law enforcement, U.S. regulatory agencies, nobody.
• Q: How did you prepare your family for what will likely be a long separation?
A: I have three children, a daughter age 8 and sons ages 7 and 4. The 8- and the 7-year-old are quite capable of understanding what’s going on from a 50,000-foot level. So we just explained to them, ‘Some people in America have said that daddy stole some money, and he didn’t, but I’ve got to go to America to fight this in a court.’ I used to be in the army, so I said to the children that every single day there are daddies who are in the army who go away to fight in a war. So while my circumstances for going away are different, the fact of me going away is not. They’ve taken it remarkably well. Children are very robust little things, particularly if you’re being honest with them.
• Q: Describe the day you were extradited.
A: ….There were six U.S. Marshals on the plane with us, two each. We sat at the back of the plane with a marshal on either side of us. We were not in shackles. The marshals really were fantastic. They were very professional, very courteous. They looked after us jolly well, frankly….When we got off the plane it appeared we were met by most of Houston law enforcement. Including the marshals, we counted 28 total law enforcement officers there to get us from the plane to immigration.
• Q: You all seemed visibly shaken when the judge said you couldn’t live together. Why?
A: We’re all strong family men who have been forcibly taken away from our wives and our children. We’ve been transported 4,000 miles to a strange land, and pretty much the only thing we have left is each other. So for the court to say you should not be allowed to associate together was unexpected. That is pretty tough.
• Q: How can you be so even-keeled when talking about the people who are trying to put you in jail?
A: I don’t blame the U.S. government for the fact that we’re here. All they’re doing is using the law. But what our country has allowed them to do is a disgrace to our country. The first duty of any government is the protection of its citizens. And our government has failed shamefully in doing that.

1:37 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"Wonder what she and the shrub will be doing on their next trip?" Well, they certainly won't be reading the bible!

Me write the screenplay of the The Sin and Sinful? I tell you one thing it would more funny that the garbage on T.V. lately of comedy.. But, I wonder what brown Shug whispers to the Gerbil's ear? Hmmm? Maybe, she tells the Gerbil that she needs 50 dollars to make him holler 'cause as the Secretary of State, she gets paid to do the wild thang! LOL!

1:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9-11 and the NeoCon Agenda

Saturday July 29 8 PM EST
on CSPAN.

1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've dealt with many horses asses and the only nice ones were in the airforce. And marines- sorry Jarhead. I'm so happy I get to see my L5 Jarhead! Let's just say 6 months is a long time of no pooty bang bang. I mean abstinence. Serious though- decaderma problem- what the government health system is not adressing. Due to us screwing up the atmosphere and these tragic hurricanes, global warming and all else, the human mite which usually resides on the tenth layer of the derma, and if you are human you have at least one, the decaderma mite has become virulent in some cases. Often misdiagnosed as adult acne, rosacea, psoriasis or dandruff, sometimes just misdiagnosed as a rash. They often cause thinning or bald spots or sores in your hair. They could be connected to the flesh eating disease and aredefinately connected to wound healing. If your immune system is worn down by surgurey, trauma, stress etc- your decaderma mite level rises. When the level rises to deadly, some will develop dark circles around the eyes that won't go away. The mite loves mucous membranes and will often interfere in the healing of urinary tract infections, lung infection, and ears nose and throat. Sometimes you will see little spots around your eyes and feel dizzy, and glaucoma type symptoms. The sure way to know that your decadermamite level is too high is to look on your left or right arm for a nickel size bruise with a line of "sun freckles" going up your arm away from the bruise. Those aren't sun freckles. The Binkley Family cure: bathe once- twice a day in a tub of water mixed with one tablespoon of Kleen Free 1 800 492-4818 no I do not work for them also seabuckthorn oil helps. Treat your pets also. Keep your skin flakes vacummed and rub your skin while in the bath. I keep a sprayer around with kleen free in it for spraying affected ares of skin and into the air. Wash clothing in Klean free. My family all agree it takes a year to get the decadermamite down to a normal level. Until the CDC recognizes this mite as a severe health problem- keep the kleen free and sea buckthorn oil around.
Part of the reason our family had to do 9 years of research on ourselves is because Pres. Bush doesn't believe humans have parasites or can have parasitic infections. He even went on a fishing show and said undercooked fish wouldn't give you worms. Hello?
Anyway, best of luck to anyone who has suffered dermatological problems and have spent thousands and have gotten nowhere. I've been there. Sarah

1:52 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Maybe, she tells the Gerbil that she needs 50 dollars to make him holler 'cause as the Secretary of State, she gets paid to do the wild thang! LOL!
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Those Ferragamo shoes aren't cheap! Avg--$400-600 per pair!

1:58 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

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2:06 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Those Ferragamo shoes aren't cheap! Avg--$400-600 per pair!"

Well, if she is out of job because of incompetence in her position, she may have sell her Ferragamo shoes for the 50.00 dollar for him holler if she wants to keep her lifestyle by the pimp from Sesame Street called the Gerbil! She was never promised a rose garden by the Gerbil or the Daddy Gerbil 41 family!

Ha, ha, ha:

"Bush just can't shake Cindy, she is very persistant!" And that is why he will be mostly indoors trying to avoid Cindy. Cindy is one determined and spunky woman!

2:08 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

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2:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee whiz I sure hope get clobbered this year with Katrina event here in FL. I could use one those FEMA credit cards bad right now.

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist
as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a DICTATORSHIP."

Alexander Tyler, Scottish Professor

2:14 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

More and More Conservatives discontent with Bush

2:23 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

And it will more and more speaking out against the Gerbil.

In other news:

Another celebrity eyes politics:

Ex-NBA Star Barkley Eyes Ala. Governorship

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - Former basketball star Charles Barkley says he's switched political teams from Republican to Democrat and is again talking about running for governor in his home state, possibly in 2010.

"I was a Republican until they lost their minds,"



From Thinkprogress:

Today Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) questioned U.N. Ambassador John Bolton about his failure to attend the U.N. Security Council mission to Sudan in early June. Bolton responded that he had “ a personal commitment in the United Kingdom” and couldn’t “break the commitment” to address the ongoing genocide in Sudan.

2:30 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

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2:33 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Charles Barkley currently lives here in Scottsdale. I see him alot at the theatre. He must be planning to move to AL.

2:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Rome, the decline of Democracy can be traced to lead poisoning causing insanity. Here, is the decline of Democracy due to a failing health system? I won't give up hope that somehow we'll find the flaw that ends Democracy and not repeat it. Sarah

2:49 PM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

Good video S-Q,

As goes Ohio, goes the nation in every presidential election since WWII and right now things are looking up for the dems despite Rover's "efforts"

I'll be listening to "Let's impeach the president for lying" while I set up for the class;-)

CC- Freeway blogger has some great stuff, he also has a list on his regular blog -4 pages of republicans involved in sex crimes-some with their own kids-add Coleman Sr. to the list. I'll never forget George Galloway mopping the floor with Coleman Jr. -it was epic.

SBP, that pic of gerbil and Merkel was really discusting -but very funny;-)


Jackie, I really got a laugh from what you said: If Bush is now a homeboy there goes the neighborhood.


hahaha kewl picture you've got there;-)

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sarah start by junking the Diebolds and other machines, we may have better chance then.

Democracies always falter when the average voter realizes he really can change the country. The Christian Coalition, Newt's revolution and Palestine come to mind here.

Can't wait to see all those Red Staters "vote their conscious" this time around. Laff out loud! Everybodies Congressman is rotten but their own.

Goobers and Rednecks are calling the shots now.

Call me cynical.

3:12 PM  
Blogger teak said...

http://www.opednews.com/articles/
opedne_david_di_060723_the_diebold_
bombshel.htm

Even more shockingly, we learned recently that Diebold and the State of
Maryland had been aware of these vulnerabilities for at least two
years. They were documented in analysis, commissioned by Maryland and
conducted by RABA Technologies, published in January 2004. For over
two years, Diebold has chosen not to fix the security holes, and
Maryland has chosen not to alert other states or national officials
about these problems.

Basically, Diebold included a "back door" in its software, allowing
anyone to change or modify the software. There are no technical
safeguards in place to ensure that only authorized people can make
changes.

A malicious individual with access to a voting machine could rig the
software without being detected. Worse yet, if the attacker rigged the
machine used to compute the totals for some precinct, he or she could
alter the results of that precinct. The only fix the RABA authors
suggested was to warn people that manipulating an election is against
the law.

Typically, modern voting machines are delivered several days before an
election and stored in people's homes or in insecure polling stations.
A wide variety of poll workers, shippers, technicians, and others who
have access to these voting machines could rig the software. Such
software alterations could be difficult to impossible to detect.

3:28 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

The high profits of Exxon-Mobil has sparked some interest for me. I've done some research and it is truly amazing but not surprising to me!

John Davison Rockefeller, Sr. was the founder of Standard Oil, which is now basically Exxon-Mobil. The Rockefellers ancestors are from Germany.

John's grandson, David Rockefeller, is a life time member of the Bilderbergs. So, connect all the dots! Record high profits!!

3:29 PM  
Blogger basheert said...

Well let's see now.
I always figured that Brownie would get his revenge someday, for being blamed for everything (Shit Rolls Downhill Syndrome).

Personally the article sounds hilarious and I wish him well. Some of his comments re: Bush are really funny in spite of the fact that the Katrina floods were a huge disaster that is still continuing.

The fact that this Administration is SO racist as to allow an entire city to die and announce it will "just be more chocolate" is sickening in this day and age.

While Brownie is not without blame, from what we've seen of this Administration, I seriously wonder what evidence we have that anyone would have allowed him to actually DO anything to help people?

In my wildest dreams I cannot imagine my job being responsible to an imbecilic moron like Dubya. It would be impossible to function on a level above a -3. What a nightmare for anyone, responsible or genuinely trying to do a job, to have a manager or an employer with the lack of intelligence and ethics as this jackass.

No wonder the government is in trouble all the time, it has NO direction, and NO idea what it's supposed to do.

RE: Condi TheSleaze

Bush will NEVER EVER cut Shug loose. He is way too fond of brown sugar and is absolutely pathologic about loyalty.
After she has succeeded in losing what little respect we have left in the world, and she has managed to start WWIII with New Zealand, he will simply give her the Medal of Honor and inaugurate her "Official Sugar Lump".

But he will NEVER EVER let her go.

3:35 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

From Thinkprogress:

Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT) opens fire on firefighters
who had come from Virginia to Montana to put out a 92,000-acre blaze. Burns told the firefighters, who earn $8 to $12 an hour and time-and-a-half for overtime, they had “done a poor job” and “should have listened to the ranchers.”


What I find amazing is that he has the gall to slam the firefighters when he has ties to Abramaoff. Maybe someone should withhold his paycheck and change his hourly rate on his salary to $8.00 to $12 an hour!

3:39 PM  
Blogger dream-soldier said...

@ t 4:10 PM
Quote :
SBP, that pic of gerbil and Merkel was really discusting -but very funny;-)

I have to check out Angela Merkel`s vacation dates.....
Maybe her husband check out, Brown shug is free ???

click

4:06 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

From Crooks and Liars:

On CNN:

In keeping with her mood and to reflect the world crises she tackles daily, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice plans to play a somber piece of music to her Asian colleagues in Malaysia this week."It is not a time that is frivolous. It is a serious time. I will play something that is in accordance with my serious mood," said Rice, who had just attended a conference in Rome aimed at helping resolve the Lebanon crisis.—Rice said she would not be comfortable singing show tunes.

Shug should worry about how to do her job rather playing a piano recital! I'm waiting for a new version of Americaa Idol overseas!

4:06 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Dream Soldier:

Eeeeewwwww!!! That was gross! What I want to know who in the world would want to shag, do a dime job, or give free samples to someone like the germ Gerbil!

4:10 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Meet the new CEO of Exxon-Mobil, Rex Tillerson.

Rex Tillerson Campaign Contributions

4:13 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Angela Merkyl is another Bilderberg member!

Dream Solider:
That made me sick!! Gross!

4:15 PM  
Blogger dream-soldier said...

@ s-q
Quote :
Angela Merkyl is another Bilderberg member!

click

4:27 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Folks,

In the news:

'Wonkette' named Time.com Washington editor

NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Former political blogger Ana Marie Cox, better known as Wonkette, will rejoin the so-called mainstream media as the new Washington editor for Time magazine's Time.com Web site later this month.

I have read Wonkette from time to time!



href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/27/mg.thu/index.html">The most 'representative' state: Wisconsin


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Looking for a state that is a microcosm of the whole country? You won't find it in Iowa or New Hampshire -- there are 25 states that come closer to average statewide measures on important characteristics such as race and income.

A ranking of the 50 states
1. Wisconsin 36.4
2. Missouri 35.2
3. Kansas 34.4
4. Indiana 30.8
5. Ohio 30.1
6. Oklahoma 29.9
7. Oregon 29.3
8. Nebraska 29.0
9. Georgia 27.3
10. Minnesota 26.9
11. Michigan 26.8
12. Washington 26.3
13. Wyoming 25.9
14. North Carolina 25.8
15. Florida 25.6
16. Montana 25.3
17. Virginia 25.3
18. Alaska 25.1
19. Pennsylvania 25.0
20. Arizona 24.8
21. Delaware 24.1
22. Tennessee 22.3
23. South Dakota 21.4
24. Kentucky 20.3
25. New Mexico 20.3
26. Iowa 19.6
27. Texas 19.6
28. Illinois 19.5
29. Rhode Island 19.0
30. Maryland 18.9
31. Colorado 18.8
32. Louisiana 18.3
33. Idaho 18.1
34. Vermont 17.9
35. Maine 17.4
36. New Hampshire 17.4
37. Utah 17.0
38. Hawaii 16.3
39. South Carolina 15.8
40. California 15.3
41. Arkansas 15.0
42. Alabama 14.6
43. North Dakota 13.8
44. Nevada 13.5
45. Connecticut 13.1
46. Massachusetts 11.6
47. New Jersey 11.4
48. New York 6.5
49. West Virginia 4.8
50. Mississippi 2.8

4:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Howard Dean compares Katherine Harris to Josef Stalin

RAW STORY
Published: Thursday July 27, 2006

Speaking at the Democratic Professionals Forum in West Palm Beach, DNC Chairman Howard Dean compared Rep. Katherine Harris (R-FL) to Josef Stalin, today's edition of the Orlando-Sentinel has reported. Harris is a candidate for US Senate.

According to the report, the Chairman "drew raucous applause" as he went after Harris, who served simultaneously as Florida's Secretary of State and chairperson of the state's committee to reelect President Bush.

4:44 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Thanks for the link Dream Soldier!

P.S. There is something very familiar about you...hmmmm...

4:50 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Ha,ha, ha:

Well, I was quite offended by Conrad Burns' remarks to the firefighters. What the asswipe can't comprehend is that firefighters and police officers put their lives on the line everyday to save someone else's life! I am sure that a friend of mines who is a captain of a fire department would be quite appauled by Burns's remark... Burns needs a checkup from the neckup. And he better worry about his own dirty laundry before asking someone else to clean theirs!

And way to go to Howard Dean for laying out the stinkpot Harris.. BTW, one of Harris' workers on her campaign is campaigning for her opponent.. She is getting back what she dishes out!

4:57 PM  
Blogger dream-soldier said...

...well

5:04 PM  
Blogger teak said...

Burns should explain to the firefighters that went to NOLA and other hurricane areas why their time was wasted standing around waiting for photo-ops (as back round)with various politicians.

I read that many firefighters were upset that were not put to work...or maybe he should talk to the firefighters sick from not being told about the asbestos in the WTC buildings. Normal removal too costly for some people?

5:07 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

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5:09 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Mann Coulter is so desperate for a man. First she says Bill Clinton is gay! You have to first ask Monica after doing the dime job with Clinton, why did she keep coming back for more from Bill? And Coulergeist in certainly the GOP koolaid representative!

Folks,

In case you need a nap, here is the video of Shug's recital piece! Don't get me wrong folks. I love classical music. But, Shug's piece was a yawn!


Video: Classical Condi

5:11 PM  
Blogger dream-soldier said...

...well, some conection to germany is
a good way, to clean prejudices, how people live together ?

Separated ot together ?

5:17 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"someone asked about the Abortion ban in South Dakota and Mann got it wrong and said South Carolina there were several snickers in the audience."

Maybe Mann Coulter is on the chitlin circuit promoting her book to complete the last stage of her sex change! No wonder her adams apples are huge.. About her distortion statement about the abortion ban? Now, who would believe crackhead and psychotic broad like Mann Coulter who could pass for a man, zipper down and all...

5:17 PM  
Blogger airJackie said...

Now we know Bush's plan on how to solve the middle east problems he's having Connie Rice play the piano. Now did Powell know how to play the piano or did he do the job of solving problems. The world leaders are laughing and rightly so. Now it's proof that Connie got her job by having an affair with Bush. It's the old way woman would move up in business now it's the way to be Secretary of State. I know Connie/George will relax during the vacation on the ranch while Laura is away on her vacation with the rich Texan. Talk about family values and morels this is showing the world what real values are in America.

5:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/
story/10962352/the_next_war/2

5:20 PM  
Blogger dream-soldier said...

Ms. jackie

I like it..

You have the words, to explain the situations in the world´s political
affairs.

Have a nice evening, all..

g`nächtle

5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.
info/article11385.htm

5:35 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

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5:42 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

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5:45 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Here is something interesting:

Frequent-flier data used to track movements of CIA operatives


http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/15106577.htm

And:

Senator wants to re-name energy bill after Exxon executive

Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) filed the amendment today. It would re-name the bill itself, "The Lee R. Raymond Oil Profitability Act.”

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Senator_wants_to_rename_energy_bill_0727.html

I should request Lautenberg to have a future bill for any elected President who is incompentent, commit graft, lame duck, amd pimp the United States and the America people that leads to impeachment process. The future bill should be called the Gerbil Bill!

5:47 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"I'm surprised Condi knows chopsticks!"

Well, that recital was certainly not from a gifted pianist that the Gerbil had boosted her up. I have seen talented teenagers and even handicapped teenagers that can play the piano quite better than Shug's crapola recital. She is better off keeping her daytime job! Oops, my bad! She can't do her job because she was never qualified from the get-go!

5:51 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Folks,

I couldn't help it! I had to send this article.

Gerbil gifts

President George W. Bush received a $10,000 sniper's rifle, six jars of fertilizer, 11 antique handguns, ten pounds of dates, and a DVD of "Singin' in the Rain" from various foreign leaders, according to a report filed today by the U.S. Department of State. The annual report from the Office of Protocol, excerpts from which you'll find below, covers gifts provided in 2004 to federal employees by "foreign government sources." Included in Bush's haul (which gets sent to a government archive) were assorted Dallas Cowboys merchandise from Saudi Arabia's Prince Bandar, a $125 braided leather whip from the Hungarian prime minister, and a copy of "The Worst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook" from the Sultan of Brunei.

And what was the Gerbil going to use the leather whip for and on??? LOL!

6:05 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"I was also wondering if Cheney was in the audience, he would have been snoring in no time at all!" That is probably why the Ambien Cheney was with Shug. You can only make lie but so long that the Baron as really praying not asleep!

But, I recommend for all bloggers who have trouble going to sleep to use Shug recital video to get some ZZZs!

6:10 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

I wish someone would give Mann Coulter a BJ and get that freak off TV and out of the media! LOL

6:19 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Armitage Fears Bombing Campaign Will ‘End Up Empowering Hezbollah’


Richard Armitage dramatically broke ranks with his neoconservative allies yesterday, saying in a radio interview that he feared it was impossible to eliminate Hezbollah through airstrikes, and that by attempting to do so, “you’re going to end up empowering Hezbollah, and perhaps introducing an element into the body politic in Lebanon that will take some great period of time to recover from.” Armitage also criticized the Bush administration for refusing to talk directly to Syria.
According to a database search, no major media outlets have yet printed Armitage’s remarks.

6:26 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Hmmm...

As Shug plays at the recital, the Baron prays for her success!

6:33 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

I kid you not, folks! Look what I found from Doonesbury comic strip!

DOONESBURY has Bush calling Condi 'Brown Sugar'...

7:01 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Shug hears the Baron snoring while she is playing the piano...

Wake Up Baron!

7:06 PM  
Blogger basheert said...

GET ON THE BANDWAGON GUYS:

PETITION TO MEDIA MATTERS TO GET RID OF SCUM PUNDITS!!!


http://mediamatters.org/hatefree

7:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Biloxi you should post more often.

Don't be so shy dude.

7:24 PM  
Blogger Kay Shelton said...

I see Al is back, and he wrote something other that what was copied and pasted.

The Doonesbury cartoon was from 2004. I am not sure if I will be able to listen to the Rolling Stones again without shuddering in horror.

Brownie has some psychological issues. He screws up but blames everyone else. He has some major transference issues going on and then he vents all that in Playboy. Calling Dr. Freud . . .

7:48 PM  
Blogger Kay Shelton said...

Ooops, "than" not "that."

Nice e-mail addresses GEF. So, you are the real William Hung. And, someone who really is an NSA spy does not have to worry about spam.

I heard from an Illinois lobbiest today that Fitz & Co. have six different investigations started with people in the office of the current governor of Illinois. That would be Gov. Blagojevich, or 'Blago' as he does not mind that nickname. Most folks just call him Baloneybitch instead, and that even includes those who usually consider themselves Democrats. His approval rating is in the low 40s. Any worse, and he will be at the Gerbil's level.

I am not going to say why I was downstate hanging out with a lobbiest today, other than I should keep washing my hands and take a bath because it might be contagious.

8:18 PM  
Blogger teak said...

I watched the hearings when Brown testified before Congress, under oath, which is something that is rare today, but he was more convincing then the other arrogant S.O.B.s that I'm not sure even took the oath.

Chertoff's boys sure did a 'heckuva' job of pissing off the average American. The committee did a 'heckuva' job of p.o. the avg. American when the black citizens spoke---the arrogance and condescending attitudes of the Senators/Congressmen/Chertoff's boys spoke volumes. At least, Michael Brown was humbled that day and did speak the truth IMHO.

8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nightowl,

er, that was humor dude! oy...
LOL

==REAL NO SPIN NEWS==

In the gerbil NERO Tradition:
ie: "While the New Orleans folks were in need, gerbil was playing guitar."

PICTURE
So does brown shuug become lady NERO as she plays piano while Israel and Lebanon Burns...

I heard from the little grape vine that Northern Galilee is in ruins..
A ghost town in tatters..
shhhhh...

8:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

condi piddles on piano while world burns

Coleman SR will say the Demacrats made him do it..
and Briwnie keep telling us about the crew...

8:33 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Bush Escapes!

8:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nero Returns

8:36 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

GEF:
DOA....."Not Found"

8:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

s-q,

naw, the gerbil is up in walla walla
laughing his keester off at how great his plans are going in the middle east while he ratchets fear at home so the American people can beg him to attack Iran...

It's all about money folks...

Remember that Newt Gingrich and Bill "Goebells" Kristol is part of the spin machine!

Ho hum..what else is new..

8:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

s-q,

What's DOA ?

I just checked them again..
..all those links I posted work!

you got web problems..

8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shuug Tempations

Family Values Speech from February 2005

8:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! Look at John McCain worshippng god!

He's worse that Lieberman...

8:55 PM  
Blogger Kay Shelton said...

I might need to start labeling some of my comments as sarcasm. GEF & I seem to have a humor disconect somewhere.

Wow, I bet the folks at the National Enquirer wished PhotoShop was around eons ago. It makes doctoring photographs so much faster! The Bush & Shug picture is good, but the one of Bush & McCain is really good. Someone even included a shadow of McCain's arm on Bush's shirt. That is very good work. ;-)

9:00 PM  
Blogger Kay Shelton said...

disconnect

That's it. I spelled too many words wrong for the evening. I am going to bed early. I am guessing that our resident Spelling Troll is still lurking around somewhere.

9:02 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

GEF:
All your links work except "Nero Returns" and that page comes up in Spanish, 'Not Found'. Don't worry about it cuz it maybe on my end.

9:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nightowl,

quote:
I might need to start labeling some of my comments as sarcasm. GEF & I seem to have a humor disconect somewhere.

I think it's all that peanut butter. Too much of a good thing ain't that good... ;)

hee hee hee!

As for the picutres,

I'm surprised their not on their hands and knees praying to their messiah..

hmmm...
Gerbil an AC Candidate ?

9:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

s-q,

Try this one..
..here's a smaller image s-q

Nero Returns 2

9:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gerbil and Gerbil41 fishing while disaster struck

Go on Nero...Fiddle!

9:11 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

GEF:
Those all work, thanks! Yeah, photoshop is great, isn't it? LOL

So, how was your day GEF?

9:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIx75t93SPQ

9:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

s-q,

me ? Well I got scalped yesterday at the pump so now I'm bald.

So today I bought a can of turtle wax and rubbed it on my head.

Then I saw this today!
Sparks fly ExxonMobil Profit tops 10 BILLION Dollars

9:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

s-q,

That's 10 BILLION in the 2nd Quarter!

BILKED AT THE PUMP!

But Congress says "It's ok MENG, No problem..."

9:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 10:16,

The real images are better. The fake ones just say "smear campaign" all over it..

I'll stick with real images, they tell the truth!

That's the difference!

9:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 10:16

Ok except for those two of the Gerbil in Nola...

*lol* hee hee!

9:28 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

GEF:
We're all getting scalped at the pump!! Now the airlines have to pass on the high cost of fuel as well.

I think it's time to vote for different people in D.C.
In about 3 more months I think the GOP is in for a rude awakening! People are sick of the war, the high gas prices and all of the corruption! Time for change! :)

9:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

s-q,

quote:
I think it's time to vote for different people in D.C.
In about 3 more months I think the GOP is in for a rude awakening! People are sick of the war, the high gas prices and all of the corruption! Time for change!

begin rant:

Although I'd like to think that is true I'm a very realistic person. I know the gop owns the e-voting machines and are able to do the FLIP or tweak the code!

I doubt very much I'm gonna wake up the next day after the election and see anything new. The gop will scoop it up again!

Because it's not a fair competition anymore..

--end rant!

9:38 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Hello everyone,

This was passed along to me from email from Media Matters. As you know, certain journalists and columnists are distorting news. They have a petition to put an end to people likr Ann Coulter and bring back honest journalism.


"Recently, the major television networks have given a platform to conservative hate merchants like Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, and Melanie Morgan."

Here is the petition:

Hate has no place on the airwaves

9:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

s-q,

I GOT A GREAT IDEA!

If OPEC can't bring down it's Oil Prices..Then it's high time that AMERICA jack up it's food exports to record levels...

Expensive Food for Expensive Oil..


Now that's a real fair deal! ;) ;) ;)

9:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"me ? Well I got scalped yesterday at the pump so now I'm bald."

Well, you should be, dear brother because you bummed off of mom for money again! And when you going to get a real job, move out, quit mocching off of the family, and freeloading?

9:47 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

GEF:
I know exactly what you're saying, however, I hope some measures will be taken to prevent that from happening! Everyday more and more voters are being enlightened on this subject! :P

9:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Biloxi,

I think it's a little too late to put that "HATE" cat back in the bag...

Fact is that the gerbil has created a real skism in the American people!

We are no longer a "United" States!

We are now two Nations under chaos, divided, with freedom and liberty for the few who can afford it!

The wounds cut deep...blood deep.
as in Iraq: Blood for Oil.

9:50 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

SPB:
I am really upset with CNN for hiring Glenn Beck! Ugh! I can't stand him!! But Mann Coulter is worse!

9:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gef sister abc,

As soon as you stop pimpin your body for milk money I'll get straight and get a job..

Have some respect for yourself. At least put on shoes when you go out on a trick!

9:56 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"We are no longer a "United" States!

We are now two Nations under chaos, divided, with freedom and liberty for the few who can afford it!'

GEF:

Yes, I am aware of that. but, the bottom line is what we are going to do about it? We can all sit here know the problem but we have to have solutions! I am sure that the minorities thought it was very differcult to have a civil rights bill or I am sure that it wasn't easy for people who never given the right to vote fought hard to have a voing rights bill! There were naysayers or people didn't believe thatthere will be rights to vote or civil rights.. Yes, we know that the Gerbil has manipulated and lied to this country and has billions of money that he milked out to people to keep his agenda going.. but, it is up to the people to go against the odds to take this country back! So, never say never!

9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As soon as you stop pimpin your body for milk money I'll get straight and get a job.."

Well, it takes one to know one! LOL! Boo Ya!

10:00 PM  
Blogger basheert said...

gef:

You are so very right.

Oil is fine and dandy, and useful. But we have descended into madness in our quest for this black gold.

As long as Bush and this Congress are in charge, this country will deteriorate. We already have a basic 2-class system (rich and poor). The middle class is pretty much wiped out and the future for this particular group does not look promising.

This goes way beyond just being slackers. These people are crooks and need to be held accountable (brought to justice?)

We have a sociopath at our helm and I think many people do realize that. If everyone who is being financially hurt (do you drive? Own your own home and have a mortgage? Buy on credit? Plan to die someday?) stood up and voted against all incumbents (why play favorites) perhaps we might have a chance.

Unless and until the American people really start financially hurting as a result of this Administration, there will be NO change.

This is why these idiots are stalling implementing a draft. They wouldn't dare - because it will hit the middle class...the wafflers.

How anyone who makes $50-$75K a year can even afford to drive, run kids around, etc is way beyond me.

Look at all of your budgets - see how much you are paying to continue "as is". Every since person in Congress is responsible - not one of them is helping any of us.

10:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Biloxi,

quote:
We can all sit here know the problem but we have to have solutions!

There's a slight chance. Here's what we gotta do!

1. Have a "fair" election in Nov..

2. Halt all spying on American Citizens

3. Bring the Troops home from Iraq

4. Impeach Gerbil and Baron Harkonnen

5. Kill CAFTA and NAFTA

6. Shred all divisive documents that plan to hand out our National soverignty to the North American Union. [ WE ARE NOT A NATION STATE LIKE THE EU, WE ARE A NATION(period) ]

7. Set strick standards for Cleaning up the Environment. Get though and serious. [As it is now the gerbil has done to the USA just what he did to Texas when he was guvernor]

This would be a slight beginning to the healing and it's not unreasonable!

10:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gef's sister abc,

..that's weak, just like your mom's back!

*rofl*

10:10 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Now, you are talking, GEF! We cannot no longer massage, pat on the back, burp, or wipe the bottom of this crisis in this country and have the mentality of:"oh, I guess there is nothing we can do. i guess should wait into the next President gets in 2008 to clean up this mess." But the American people has to have a sense of urgency rather than the wait and see attitude.. I have written and followup with my officials in my area and attend some events to express my concerns! But,people need to stop being thumbsuckers and get on the stick and hold their officals accountable!

10:18 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Now, this is interesting:

Drug firms give doctors $1 billion a year in free lunches

According to the Times, drug makers regularly order and pay for lunchtime deliveries to doctor's offices across the country, providing entire staffs with pizzas, Chinese dishes, gourmet sandwiches, or Starbucks coffee.

10:21 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Basheert:
I'm sure you've seen Jim Pederson's ads. I like what he says, "If you don't like the people in Washington, send different people to Washington!" Something like that anyway...may not be word for word.

(For those that don't know...He is running for Senate agains Jon Kyl)

10:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Biloxi,

Well if lazyness is a sign of a complacent Nation, then history records something we should pay attention to.

Every nation that's become lazy and complacent has been caught by surprise by other nations and attacked and those nations have become gone!

The only way I see a National concensus to take our country back is if our Economy tanks..

..and believe you me Biloxi, the view from the lookout perch ain't looking so good...

10:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Biloxi,

p.s. I submit that a Nation divided cannot stand.

Our forefathers warned us of this very thing!

10:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

basheert,

quote:
Unless and until the American people really start financially hurting as a result of this Administration, there will be NO change.

There are alot people hurting right now...

You mean until you have Corporations and Rich people financially hurting along with the poor, there will be no change!

10:33 PM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

Hi All,
Hey people are interested in impeachment-this plan can be put in place for Nov 7-a cheif pros show up. turned out Betty Buckaneer knew him, so now we know whom to nag about our local voting problems. We said we'd do the paper work for him ;-)

Did you see the Ann coulter video on RAW? OMG!! that man having the nerve, but those girls handled their questions beautifully. mann was nearly speechless! haha
GEF,
Well if lazyness is a sign of a complacent Nation, then history records something we should pay attention to.
Agreed. That is something else I have been working on-getting people motivated. I am getting the impression they didn't realize what civic duty is supposed to be. we agreed at the meeting and I am working on a brochure for info sources.

10:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

t,

quote:
That is something else I have been working on-getting people motivated. I am getting the impression they didn't realize what civic duty is supposed to be. we agreed at the meeting and I am working on a brochure for info sources.

Keep it up... ;)

Remember:
*Bad people win when good
people do nothing!*

United We Stand!
Don't tread on Me!~

The Republic

10:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

but this one will ... cause Mrs. J Hopwood..... I'm not.

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.opednews.com/articles/
opedne_david_di_060723_the_diebold
_bombshel.htm

10:48 PM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

GEF, that is my favorite flag, I'm going to swipe your list -if you dont mind.

That is my favorite old glory ;-)

10:49 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"The only way I see a National concensus to take our country back is if our Economy tanks.."

Well, yes and no, GEF. For some people, the economy msy not be a push of the button.. It may be other factors such as the jobs, environment, healthcare, education, social security, and so on.. And it whatever the majority of people major concern will ticked them off to do something.. The Gerbil thinks that he can paly mind game in people to program people about the 9/11 attacks and the Iraq war.. But, some people are hagning on to the President's agenda and amny of people are just sick and tired of seeing the casualities of the soldiers and the cost.. So, yes, the middle class and the poor are affected by different issues in the country but the 2% who are financially independent may be not be a lot of concern for the ecomony in the tanks because that may not affect them drastically. It can be other issues..
But, I don't it just lazyness for people. It is combination of complacent and denial.. Whatever the factor is, people need to take control over their country.The ones who makes things happen will sleep well and now that they gave it all that had. For the ones who watch things happen or not do anything to take back their country, they are the ones who have to live with their decisions forever with the fate of this country!

10:51 PM  
Blogger basheert said...

gef:

I'm sorry, I totally disagree with you. If people really WERE hurting financially, you'd hear a lot more noise from the mainstream.

People are too busy in their own bubble. The world is big, they are busy, the kids have soccer, or go to private schools.

Or if they truly ARE hurting, they mumble and bitch about it. Tons of people are literally living on credit card debt rather than face the fact that they are spending more than they make.

Where is the vocal bitching for this mess? (Sorry, I'm retro-ing back to the 60's here). Where are the people demanding someone FIX this mess we are ALL in? Oh sure, they talk among themselves, but unless and until they get pissed enough to VOTE and VOTE LOUDLY, we have no chance.

Congress is doing NOTHING - absolutely nothing about anything. Oh sure, 2 weeks ago we had "family values week" where we debated and postured for the religious nutjobs to keep the base in line.

Amazing group "the base". Never have so few done so much for so little - a group of people waiting for spiritual deliverance from this hell on earth THEY have created by their skewed wingnut "values" (like no one else has or believes in anything important that could be considered a "value". THEY are the only ones who count).

However, again, I would have by now expected HUGE protest marches. The media is, of course, finally beginning to test the waters of dissent. Gradually the MSM is catching on that they are being "had" and have let everyone down. People like Lou Dobbs are finally beginning to openly oppose this Administration and they DESERVE our support. The NYTimes has once again, gone out on a limb. Even WaPo is testing their waters and beginning to rattle.

People simply must stand up for what they believe in - not just the wingnuts, but all of us. Obviously close to 70% of our population thinks we'd be better off if someone popped Pwezzie and his Darth Vaderite. Granted that is extreme...so let's begin by getting rid of incumbents.

Dem/Rep - whatever ... buh bye! Every single member of Congress is letting us down ..

Sorry for the rant!

SQ - I had the pleasure of talking with Jim Pederson at work a couple times last week - he's a neat guy. We are financially supporting him as well. Since you are aware of where I work, his calling my company was a surprise however he's seeking support.

The one I want gone is Fat Hayseed. He took over $83,000 from Abramoff...claiming the "Indians" love him and he won't give it back.

We are supporting Mitchell in an effort to blast his fat ass out of that office. He's worthless - and stupid too...very very stupid. Being a sports announcer does NOT qualify you for Congress.

10:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 11:48

If we can't get the printers on time and we can't check the code...

We must apply Plan B.

1. By sheer numbers of voters
Ie: It's harder to flip an 80%/20%
or 90%/10%

2. All Parties must be present during tabulation and there must be no "secret sessions" or "secret machine checks" of the system that would arouse suspicions...

3. Voter Polls must remain open until the very last minute and all voters outside at closing must be guaranteed a vote!

We must watch the chickenhawks like Eagles after Prey in Nov!

10:57 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

A followup to Michael Steele:

During a radio interview yesterday, Steele said he was surprised to see the quotes in print and even suggested they were "taken out of context."

Today, the Maryland Democratic Party sent Political Wire a copy of an email between Steele's communications director and Millbank giving approval for use of Steele’s quotes and discussing the terms of the story. The email makes clear Steele's campaign knew about the story in advance and was even given the opportunity to approve the quotes in the story.

It's not clear how the Maryland Democrats obtained a copy of the email.

Update: TPM Muckraker tells me they gave the Millbank email to Maryland Democrats

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/07/27/maryland_democrats_obtain_email_from_steele_campaign.html

10:57 PM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

anon that diebold article was good, I just can't believe it has taken this long for people to understand it was a real thing.

I thought some of my leftie friends were "out there" when they started talking paper ballots after 2004 fiasco. But from people investigating it,I have come to learn that is what most democratic countries use. Now I think we could and should try it- and give me a receipt!

GEF I have heard other states through black box, ect are doing trainings for BOE watchers. Definately a good thing.

Glad to see all the constructive solutions here;-) Your list of solutions was good start. SPB that is an interesting list on the states, I am sort a surprise Oh is 5

11:02 PM  
Blogger teak said...

Omg, Dave Letterman just bitch-slapped Ann the mann.

11:03 PM  
Blogger basheert said...

gef:

The cost of living may not be what triggers the revolt. Having a lot of resources will make life easier, but still not pleasant. No one wants to give this much to the oil companies, even if you have it.

I'd truly like to see a general outrage. People who look at our emporer and realize he's totally naked and craven as well.

It would make me realize my country still cares. Right now, I see only massive numbers of individuals who appear to care only for themselves and what they can take from others. There are a lot of "uninvolved" people in this country - people who don't realize that FAUX News is full of lies and hatred.

It is difficult realizing that a person elected as President, is violating our constitution and making a mockery of our country. We all should be ashamed of the actions of our leaders..

So as unpopular as it is, I want to see a DRAFT. It is the only thing that has the potential to make people rise up and put a stop to this Imperial Presidency. People will not tolerate it.

And we cannot go on like this, there are no enough soldiers.

11:05 PM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

teak, in the physical sense?

11:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Basheert,

Hmmm...
Oh so you do have a soul after all...
Excellent Rant! :)

What gets me is how all these so called "leaders" think they are gonna be "raptured" by calgon and go to heaven while they make the people languish in injustice and lamentation!

I just crack up thinking about where they're really going...

Bwahahahahahaha! :D

11:06 PM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

basheert said:

So as unpopular as it is, I want to see a DRAFT

I couldn't agree more-we are going to bring this up when military families meet with armed serv com next week. THAT should put a stop to more war talk, they know it's political suicide and rightfully so!

GEF I have a evang relative looks like she thinking that may have been a line from the prech, these day-cause they were supposed to be raptured by now!

11:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

basheert,

Critical mass is already here.

We are in a state of critical mass!

Weather it's the Economy, the Draft, A Nuclear attack, or some Gigantic Earthchange...

The "R" word is proof to the NSA that the gerbil admin has become a threat to "National Security"...

If have an "R" in this country after the release of critical mass. There will not be enough police, military, money, food or munitions to turn it off...I don't care how many new toys they have. If you don't have electricity to run them, they won't work!

There's no such thing as a controlled stampede, but tptb will find that out for themselves...

We all need each other. I say again. United We Stand.

The Angel of the Azure Standard put it this way:
"REMEMBER, YE ARE BRETHEREN!"

11:14 PM  
Blogger teak said...

http://www.cbsnews.com/

video, gas prices hit poor hardest.

11:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

t,

Well, maybe God forgot our leaders cause they're still here wreaking havok!

I think Congress needs another raise while Rome is being sold from under it's citizens!

Bwahahahaha!

11:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

United we stand ... boo, hoo, hoo to you.

United yesterday, united today, no.

The mark has been overstepped today.

Night Bipoxi.

11:21 PM  
Blogger basheert said...

gef:

Look, unless and until the rest of the American population realizes that they've been "had" by a bunch of radical looneytunes being led by a Jim Jones retrovirus, we're kind of on our own here.

I don't really WANT a draft, but at some point soon, someone is going to have to address the fact that people are NOT going to become military anymore. So unless our "boys" are going to be permanently assigned to HOE (hell on earth, anyplace that hates us), someone had better do something to wake people up.

A draft will force people to face what is happening.

And by the way, again, I wish the Rapture Right would get the hell off of my planet. Go already - go Rapture yourself and leave the rest of us alone.

I do believe in a God and my God has NEVER heard of these wackjobs. This is NOT religion..this is lunacy.

11:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

teak,

thanks!

11:22 PM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

s-q so will everyone else-don't worry- -the politicians will never do it. We will be sure to make them understand the war needs to end NOW or they will have no choice but to draft because we are running out of deployable soldiers-the military doesn't even have enough equipment for more soldiers. It is just a leverage point to make a point. If people become afraid there will be a draft-they will get off their butts and put a stop to this.
Besides, contact me later and I'll give you the ends and outs of CO status (or anyone else for that matter) we are going to pound them on the fact that the war in Iraq is illegal-even the german courts ruled a year ago they are in violation of their own constitution for helping us at all.

There won't be a draft-but a draft tactic-perhaps.

11:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S-Q and I thought you had two sons ?

11:24 PM  
Blogger teak said...

No--he had a deal with Ann saying Bill was gay...and then said Ann kept hitting on him (Bill) so he made up that he was gay to get the crazy-ass bitch to leave him alone!

It will be shown again somewhere.

LOL.

11:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

basheert,

quote:
And by the way, again, I wish the Rapture Right would get the hell off of my planet. Go already - go Rapture yourself and leave the rest of us alone.

Perhaps that was a made up concept by Darby and they will have to go through tribulations just like we do...

or yet perhaps we'll be Raptured and they'll be left here to fix their mess without us supplying them money!

That would be a hilarious Irony!

hee hee hee!


g'night folks good talk today!!

11:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh of course S-Q, why didn't I think of that.

On the defensive Teak. Lets see who shows who eh? Who didn't leave who alone with their Jungian 7 + 2 deadly sins.

May the best man or woman win.

You sleep well, you'll have to keep you wits about you.

11:34 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Good Night, Mrs Hopwood - Not!


From Carpetbagger report, the Democrats have a written an agenda called "Six of '06":

1. "Real Security at Home and Overseas" — phased redeployment in Iraq, send expanded Special Forces to get bin Laden, implement 9/11 Commission agenda
2. "Better American Jobs. Better Pay" — made congressional pay raise conditional on minimum wage increase, end tax breaks for companies that outsource
3. "College Access for All" — make college tuition "permanently" tax deductible, cut student loan interest rates, expand Pell Grants
4. "Energy Independence. Lower Gas Prices" — initiatives for energy-efficient technologies and alternative fuels, new laws against gas price gouging, end "tax giveaways to Big Oil"
5. "Affordable Health Care" — fix Medicare Part D, fund stem-cell research, negotiate lower prescription drug prices, end tax giveaways to drug companies and HMOs
6. "Retirement Security and Dignity" — beat back Social Security privatization (again), pension reform, expand personal savings incentives


http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8051.html#more-8051

Hereis the PDF file:
http://www.democraticleader.house.gov/pdf/NewDirection.pdf


I went on the GOP website and there is no agenda to outline for the country.. I guess the GOP still has the "stay the course" agenda!

11:35 PM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

GEf said That would be a hilarious Irony!

Yes it would


G'Night all, it's late you interesting people!

11:36 PM  
Blogger teak said...

Guess if those good people are on their way to rapture, they don't need the tax-exempt status anymore, eh? What would be the point?

11:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll enjoy the challenge.

Very rarely do I come across someone to whom i regard as a formidable foe.

That is only if they choose to push their luck

This will ... be good.

11:50 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Final posting:

On MSNBC, Coulter called Gore a "total fag," while Matthews said "we'd love to have her back"

Coultergeist said:"Clinton "show[s] some level of latent homosexuality." Coulter responded, "I don't know if he's gay. But [former Vice President] Al Gore -- total fag." She went on to defend her theory about Clinton's sexuality by stating that "everyone has always known, widely promiscuous heterosexual men have, as I say, a whiff of the bathhouse about them." Coulter claimed she was "just kidding" about Gore, but said of her theory about Clinton, "It's not only not a joke, it's not even surprising."

MATTHEWS: Thank you, Ann.
COULTER: Thank you.
MATTHEWS: Thanks for coming on. And a smart lady. Her book's called Godless. Sometimes being smart isn't enough for a civil discourse. We'd love to have her back.

And we know that Tweety is getiing somethin, somethin from Coulter. And we ain't her book!
I hope that the Democrats/Independents take back the House/Senate in November. They need to clean up the true meaning of journalism. I will have a big smile on my face the day the bitch Coulter is toss out from the two asses that she has out the door. As my girlfriend says, I feel a spirit that needs to smack her to next week!

Good night! Signing off!

11:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All from a man, who lives a constant lie.

See you on the Motherboard, Bipoxi.

11:57 PM  
Blogger teak said...

mrs. hopwood aka Evil Al, just say what is on your mind instead of trying to threaten someone. FYI, I sleep something terrible anyway for the last 4 years, so spare me.

Anytime you wanna tell how Clinton made your life a living hell, go right ahead. You might be surprised, I would probably believe you nowadays.

"On the defensive Teak. Lets see who shows who eh? Who didn't leave who alone with their Jungian 7 + 2 deadly sins.

May the best man or woman win.

You sleep well, you'll have to keep you wits about you." 12:34am

Nite Al.

2:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never threaten, I do.

2:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

G`mornin`. all fitzbloggers

Here comes the war-ticker of the last night:

05:20 Condoleezza Rice to visit Middle East region again late this week (Israel Radio)
06:13 IAF strikes 130 Hezbollah targets overnight (Israel Radio)
Al Liwa newspaper says Syria shot down an unmanned Israeli spy aircraft and the Jewish state retaliated by destroying the base from which the plane was downed
Israeli fighter jets overflow the Masnaa border checkpoint and the Lebanese-Syrian border
http://web.naharnet.com/default.asp

07:23 Ben-Eliezer: War aimed at Hezbollah; we don`t want to involve Syria (Israel Radio)

07:11 Palestinians fire three Qassam rockets at Sderot; no injuries (Israel Radio)

07:02 Israel to Damascus: Israel is not planning to attack Syria (Israel Radio)
http://www.haaretz.com/


Looks like the Israelis are nervous about destroying the Syrian base that downed their spy drone!

The wife of a Canadian UN peacekeeper bombed in an Israeli air strike refused to accept her husband's death and accused Israel of intentionally bombing his UN outpost.

"I've been told ... that the Israelis chose to bomb that site with three guided missiles. They're UN soldiers. That should have been the safest place to be. They should not have bombed that site, period," Cynthia Hess-von Kruedener told reporters at a Canadian forces base in Kingston, Ontario. (AFP)

The War on Lebanon and the Battle for Oil
Quote:
Is there a relationship between the bombing of Lebanon and the inauguration of the World's largest strategic pipeline, which will channel more a million barrels of oil a day to Western markets?

Virtually unnoticed, the inauguration of the Ceyhan-Tblisi-Baku (BTC) oil pipeline, which links the Caspian sea to the Eastern Mediterranean, took place on the 13th of July, at the very outset of the Israeli sponsored bombings of Lebanon...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=2824
Dream-Soldier

4:31 AM  
Blogger FBI said...

Dreamsoldier - thank you for the post on the Ceyhan-Tblisi-Baku (BTC) oil pipeline...

I thought this was too improtant not to share more of the article here:

While the official reports state that the BTC pipeline will "channel oil to Western markets", what is rarely acknowledged is that part of the oil from the Caspian sea would be directly channeled towards Israel. In this regard, an underwater Israeli-Turkish pipeline project has been envisaged which would link Ceyhan to the Israeli port of Ashkelon and from there through Israel's main pipeline system, to the Red Sea.

The objective of Israel is not only to acquire Caspian sea oil for its own consumption needs but also to play a key role in re-exporting Caspian sea oil back to the Asian markets through the Red Sea port of Eilat. The strategic implications of this re-routing of Caspian sea oil are farreaching....

...Diverting Central Asian oil and gas to the Eastern Mediterranean (under Israeli military protection), for re-export to Asia, serves to undermine the inter-Asian energy market, which is based on the development of direct pipeline corridors linking Central Asia and Russia to South Asia, China and the Far East.

Ultimately, this design is intended to weaken Russia's role in Central Asia and cut off China from Central Asian oil resources. It is also intended to isolate Iran.

Meanwhile, Israel has emerged as a new powerful player in the global energy market

***********************************

Good Morning Team Fitzie and Justice Bloggers...

7:22 AM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

Good morning Justice Bloggers,

CC- I think they are really barking up the wrong tree if they think they can do that to Russia-I don't see Putin putting up with it.

From WaPo
Bushies nervous about War crimes charges

An obscure law approved by a Republican-controlled Congress a decade ago has made the Bush administration nervous that officials and troops involved in handling detainee matters might be accused of committing war crimes, and prosecuted at some point in U.S. courts.

Senior officials have responded by drafting legislation that would grant U.S. personnel involved in the terrorism fight new protections against prosecution for past violations of the War Crimes Act of 1996. That law criminalizes violations of the Geneva Conventions governing conduct in war and threatens the death penalty if U.S.-held detainees die in custody from abusive treatment.
------------------------
They state later in the article the DOJ will never charge them. Alrighty then. Why have laws at all?

8:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

coulter's gig is mantra of no thought..just say the same thing over and over..she just changes the names..her following are people and the school of no thought .. and matthews is simply a lost cause..
the spin is old old old
brain space is too precious to house any more thought on these two..
delete

8:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detainee Abuse Charges Feared
Shield Sought From '96 War Crimes Act

By R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 28, 2006; A01

An obscure law approved by a Republican-controlled Congress a decade ago has made the Bush administration nervous that officials and troops involved in handling detainee matters might be accused of committing war crimes, and prosecuted at some point in U.S. courts.

Senior officials have responded by drafting legislation that would grant U.S. personnel involved in the terrorism fight new protections against prosecution for past violations of the War Crimes Act of 1996. That law criminalizes violations of the Geneva Conventions governing conduct in war and threatens the death penalty if U.S.-held detainees die in custody from abusive treatment.

In light of a recent Supreme Court ruling that the international Conventions apply to the treatment of detainees in the terrorism fight, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales has spoken privately with Republican lawmakers about the need for such "protections," according to someone who heard his remarks last week.

Gonzales told the lawmakers that a shield is needed for actions taken by U.S. personnel under a 2002 presidential order, which the Supreme Court declared illegal, and under Justice Department legal opinions that have been withdrawn under fire, the source said. A spokeswoman for Gonzales, Tasia Scolinos, declined to comment on Gonzales's remarks.

The Justice Department's top legal adviser, Steven G. Bradbury, separately testified two weeks ago that Congress must give new "definition and certainty" to captors' risk of prosecution for coercive interrogations that fall short of outright torture.

Language in the administration's draft, which Bradbury helped prepare in concert with civilian officials at the Defense Department, seeks to protect U.S. personnel by ruling out detainee lawsuits to enforce Geneva protections and by incorporating language making U.S. enforcement of the War Crimes Act subject to U.S. -- not foreign -- understandings of what the Conventions require.

The aim, Justice Department lawyers say, is also to take advantage of U.S. legal precedents that limit sanctions to conduct that "shocks the conscience." This phrase allows some consideration by courts of the context in which abusive treatment occurs, such as an urgent need for information, the lawyers say -- even though the Geneva prohibitions are absolute.

The Supreme Court, in contrast, has repeatedly said that foreign interpretations of international treaties such as the Geneva Conventions should at least be considered by U.S. courts.

Some human rights groups and independent experts say they oppose undermining the reach of the War Crimes Act, arguing that it deters government misconduct. They say any step back from the Geneva Conventions could provoke mistreatment of captured U.S. military personnel. They also contend that Bush administration anxieties about prosecutions are overblown and should not be used to gain congressional approval for rough interrogations.

"The military has lived with" the Geneva Conventions provisions "for 50 years and applied them to every conflict, even against irregular forces. Why are we suddenly afraid now about the vagueness of its terms?" asked Tom Malinowski, director of the Washington office of Human Rights Watch.

Since the U.S. invasions of Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003, hundreds of service members deployed to Iraq have been accused by the Army of mistreating detainees, and at least 35 detainees have died in military or CIA custody, according to a tally kept by Human Rights First. The military has asserted these were all aberrant acts by troops ignoring their orders.

Defense attorneys for many of those accused of involvement have alleged that their clients were pursuing policies of rough treatment set by officials in Washington. That claim is amplified in a 53-page Human Rights Watch report this week that quoted interrogators at three bases in Iraq as saying that abuse was part of regular, authorized procedures. But this argument has yet to gain traction in a military court, where U.S. policy requires that active-duty service members be tried for any maltreatment.

The War Crimes Act, in contrast, affords access to civilian courts for abuse perpetrated by former service members and by civilians. The government has not filed any charges under the law.

The law's legislative sponsor is one of the House's most conservative members, Rep. Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-N.C.). He proposed it after a chance meeting with a retired Navy pilot who had spent six years in the notorious "Hanoi Hilton," a Vietnamese prison camp. The conversation left Jones angry about Washington's inability to prosecute the pilot's abusers.

Jones's legislation for the first time imposed criminal penalties in the United States for breaches of the Geneva Conventions, which protect detainees anywhere. The Defense Department's deputy general counsel at the time declared at the sole hearing on it in 1996 -- attended by just two lawmakers -- that "we fully support the purposes of the bill," and urged its expansion to cover a wider range of war crimes. The Republican-controlled House passed the bill by voice vote, and the Senate approved it by unanimous consent.

The law initially criminalized grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions but was amended without a hearing the following year to include violations of Common Article 3, the minimum standard requiring that all detainees be treated "humanely." The article bars murder, mutilation, cruel treatment, torture and "outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment." It applies to any abuse involving U.S. military personnel or "nationals."

Jones and other advocates intended the law for use against future abusers of captured U.S. troops in countries such as Bosnia, El Salvador and Somalia, but the Pentagon supported making its provisions applicable to U.S. personnel because doing so set a high standard for others to follow. Mary DeRosa, a legal adviser at the National Security Council from 1997 to 2001, said the threat of sanctions in U.S. courts in fact helped deter senior officials from approving some questionable actions. She said the law is not an impediment in the terrorism fight.

Since September 2001, however, Bush administration officials have considered the law a potential threat to U.S. personnel involved in interrogations. While serving as White House legal counsel in 2002, Gonzales helped prepare a Jan. 25 draft memo to Bush -- written in large part by David Addington, then Vice President Cheney's legal counsel and now Cheney's chief of staff -- in which he cited the threat of prosecution under the act as a reason to declare that detainees captured in Afghanistan were not eligible for Geneva Conventions protections.

"It is difficult," Gonzales said in the memo, "to predict the motives of prosecutors and independent counsels who may in the future decide to bring unwarranted charges." He also argued for the flexibility to pursue various interrogation methods and said that only a presidential order exempting detainees from Geneva protections "would provide a solid defense to any future prosecution." That month, Bush approved an order exempting those captured in Afghanistan from these protections.

But the Supreme Court's ruling in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld effectively made Bush's order illegal when it affirmed that all detainees held by the United States are protected by Common Article 3. The court's decision caught the administration unprepared, at first, for questions about how its policy would change.

On July 7, Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England signed a memorandum ordering all military departments to certify that their actions in the fight with al-Qaeda comply with Article 3. Several officials said the memo, which was reviewed by military lawyers, was provoked by the renewed threat of prosecution under the War Crimes Act.

England's memo was not sent to other agencies for review. Two White House officials heavily involved in past policymaking on detainee treatment matters, counsel Harriet Miers and Addington, told friends later that they had not been briefed before its release and were unhappy about its language, according to an informed source. Bradbury and Gonzales have since drafted legislation to repair what they consider the defects of the War Crimes Act and the ambiguities of Common Article 3.

Several officials said the administration's main concerns are Article 3's prohibitions against "outrages upon personal dignity" and humiliating or degrading treatment. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told reporters on July 12 that he supported clearing up ambiguities so that military personnel are not "charged with wrongdoing when in fact they were not engaged in wrongdoing."

Several advocates and experts nonetheless said the legal liability of administration officials for past interrogations is probably small. "I think these guys did unauthorized stuff, they violated the War Crimes Act, and they should be prosecuted," said Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, a New York-based group that has provided lawyers for detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Ratner said authorized interrogation techniques such as stress positions, temperature extremes and sleep deprivation are "clearly outlawed" under Common Article 3. But he added that prosecutions are improbable because the Justice Department -- which has consistently asserted that such rough interrogations are legal -- is unlikely to bring them. U.S. officials could argue in any event, Ratner said, that they were following policies they believed to be legal, and "a judge would most likely say that is a decent defense."

Some officials at the Pentagon share the view that illegal actions have been taken. Alberto J. Mora, the Navy's general counsel from 2001 until the end of last year, warned the Pentagon's general counsel twice that some approved interrogation methods violated "domestic and international legal norms" and that a federal court might eventually find responsibility "along the entire length of the chain of command," according to a 2004 memo by Mora that recounted the warnings. The memo was first obtained by the New Yorker magazine.

At a July 13 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee, the Air Force's top military lawyer, Maj. Gen. Jack L. Rives, affirmed that "some of the techniques that have been authorized and used in the past have violated Common Article 3" of the Geneva Conventions. The top military lawyers for the Army, Navy and Marine Corps, who were seated next to Rives, said they agreed.

9:54 AM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

But he added that prosecutions are improbable because the Justice Department -- which has consistently asserted that such rough interrogations are legal -- is unlikely to bring them. U.S. officials could argue in any event, Ratner said, that they were following policies they believed to be legal, and "a judge would most likely say that is a decent defense."

SPB, when you get a chance, could you please explain this? How could this be a defense that will fly?

10:33 AM  
Blogger airJackie said...

Top of the morning all
Nice to know it's still about oil with Bush. The media and public are watching an invasion while the pipeline is being built. No wonder Halliburton didn't need US contracts anymore. Some thing was done in Afghan as the Bush appointed Afghan President's first order of business was to sign the pipeline deal.
As for Tony Blair telling Bush to stop the war that wont happen. Blair has been a lap dog and dogs don't order their masters. I suggest England check to see what Blair was paid for he cooperation in the Iraq invasion. We know Pakistan and India got weapons what did Blair get. Other countries got taxpayers money and trade. Don't worry Bush will lose and lose big. The secret deals and lies are unfolding daily. Yes and now we know what the qualifications are to be the US Secretary of State just be able to play the piano that's it.

10:49 AM  
Blogger dream-soldier said...

Blair under pressure

Taday Gerbil meets Blair
Lapdog (British commentators speak of Tony Blair “Pudel problem”) and the
Mic-problems on G-8, no more to be led from Bush at the short line, the
british public demands a „Call for a ceasefire now“

click

11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NSA whistleblower subpoenaed by federal grand jury

RAW STORY
Published: Friday July 28, 2006

A former National Security Agency signals intelligence expert has been called before a grand jury, RAW STORY has learned.

Russell Tice, an important source for the Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times report by James Risen and Eric Lichtblau on the NSA's warrentless eavesdropping activities, was served papers by two FBI agents outside his home on Wednesday, July 26th. Tice must appear in court on August 2nd "to testify and answer questions concerning possible violations of federal criminal law."

11:12 AM  
Blogger dream-soldier said...

Try to explain Gerbils surprise shoulder rub

It has it in the grasp, it has it in the neck, it has itself devoted.... There are no more taboos..., one makes which one wants and which may watch world to be silent (more or less surprised)..., the world watch, it happened however nothing, (it seizes it shortly under the skirt and it will again nothing happened) to people at power to apply no laws (from moral or ethics times completely.) „All are to see that we together are!“

The war-ticker :

13.20: Washington denies that Roma conference gave Israel the right to attack Lebanon
15.30: Washington: Imagining that Roma conference is teh green light for Israel to attack is a real Shame!
Breaking News: Hezbollah fires Khaibar-1 rockets on Al-Afola after Hayfa Manar Tv
As a small piece of info, Afula is just south of Nazareth, they are coming closer to Tel Aviv.
16.00: Russia publishes a list of terrorist organizations and it doesnt include Hezbollah or hamas !
The Place that "Khaybar1" rockets reached are 50 km far from Haifa !!!!
Walid Joumblat says Tehran trying out its weapons, intel in Hizbullah conflict

12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just venting. got the call last night, they found my cousin's body, in his truck, in a lake. they are trying to make it like he commited suicide. state of illinois police are "handling it" i'm crying and i really don't want to deal with -in between crying and trying to decide wether to just shut down my thoughts -but if i type them somewhere then it means this is real, and i'm angry. funny, noone in my family ever "died by suicide" especially right after they filled up the gas tank for their trip to Florida spring break. my uncle is trying to get the facts clear. no one in the family believes what the state police are saying. I think Bush and Daley spoke about finding ryan since it just happens the two of them had dinner a week ago, and then after six years my missing cousin is found. At the bottom of a lake, like a suicide. funny, the state of illinois police just recently got the equipment needed to find him. they probably buried him alive in the truck at gunpoint, god only knows -all what they did. re-dig up the truck and dump it into the lake, make it look like suicide. the mafia isn't smart though, they didn't figure the temperature or ice thickness of the lake on the day "he committed suicide" or the truck weight and how well it "sank" to the bottom of the lake nevermind. .. i may never figure out a way they fucked up, to get it close to a court room. this is the second man in my family to be murdered, and the old suicide cover used. The first man, my great great uncle that ran for sheriff eons ago, the papers printed it as a suicide, even though the coroner found the body with a blow to the head caused most likely by a rock, and his skull crushed open, with rock tied to him and his money gone from selling his steer-yeah suicide. politics and power, when the good get involved, our family always ends up sacrificing a member. what do i do now, my passion to overthrow the corrupt has to go somewhere, the passion to make the things wrong right again. i can't see to write sarah

12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Condi & GEF sleep nakey?

7:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Condi and GEF sleep nakey?
-------------------------------
Who cares what Condi does and depends who exactly GEF is.
I think I know who he is....

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