I Love It...
the criminal and civil one-two!
To help Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson pay for the substantial legal costs associated with the illegal leaking of Mrs. Wilson’s classified CIA status. This includes:
To help Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson pay for the substantial legal costs associated with the illegal leaking of Mrs. Wilson’s classified CIA status. This includes:- Counseling them for their potential witness testimony during the upcoming trial of Scooter Libby; and
- Helping them to prepare for a civil suit that would uncover the truth surrounding the leak, ensure all relevant public officials are held accountable for actions depriving the Wilsons of their privacy and constitutional rights, and serve as a deterrent to similar crimes being committed in the future.
Should the civil action result in a payment to Joe and/or Valerie Wilson that is in excess of all costs associated with their legal activities, the equivalent of all monies contributed to the Trust will be returned to the Trust. All Trust money will then be distributed by the trustees to a charitable organization(s) that works to protect government whistleblowers’ First Amendment rights and helps to defend them from retaliatory action.
Click here to view The Wilson complaint filed in Federal Court
Click here to view The Wilson complaint filed in Federal Court
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 7/13/2006
141 Comments:
Me First
Me First!!!
YES - you GO Wilsons!!
Rock Cheney's Filthy Scumbag World...
Happy Happy Happy ...
Do you hear me NSA - I am HAPPY!! DE-lighted that Fat Scumbag Rat Bastard Cheney may actually have to defend his filthy ways just like any of the regular US citizens would be required to do if we committed TREASON in this country.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060713/ap_on_go_ot/cia_leak_lawsuit
If you'd like to contribute to their efforts, here is the link:
http://www.wilsonsupport.org/donate.asp
By Joe and Valerie Wilson coming out with a civil suit against Porkrind, Smurf, Baron, and 10 John Does, the release of Novak's false confessions, and the upcoming little soldier's trial next year, you best believe people will be talking more and more about a WH conspiracy. And what great timing before November elections! This is not good for Team Libby's defense to hear their client is named in a civil lawsuit. And not the smurf has to cough up more money to fight a civil lawsuit! But, pay back is certainly a bitch for the Gerbil Administration! The Administration are getting what they gave out to the Wilsons! All I say to the Wilsons:
Speaking as SPB: Sue their asses!
Speaking as a human being, taxpayer, and an American: Sue their asses and sue them more!!
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/israel/
declare.htm
(snip)
THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
Isarel hides many secrets, many questions could be asked of their leaders.
**Way to go, Valerie and Joe!!**
This is some interesting information from FDL from Christy:
"UPDATE #2: Amb. Wilson just sent me an updated statement in response to Bob Novak:"
"Robert Novak, some other commentators and the Administration continue to try to completely distort the role that Valerie Wilson played with respect to Ambassador Wilson’s trip to Niger. The facts are beyond dispute. The Office of the Vice President requested that the CIA investigate reports of alleged uranium purchases by Iraq from Niger. The CIA setup a meeting to respond to the Vice President’s inquiry. Another CIA official, not Valerie Wilson, suggested to Valerie Wilson’s supervisor that the Ambassador attend that meeting. That other CIA official made the recommendation because that official was familiar with the Ambassador’s vast experience in Niger and knew of a previous trip to Africa concerning uranium matters that had been undertaken by the Ambassador on behalf of the CIA in 1999. Valerie Wilson’s supervisor subsequently asked her to relay a request from him to the Ambassador that he would like the Ambassador to attend the meeting at the CIA. Valerie Wilson did not participate in the meeting.
As the CIA itself has officially confirmed, Valerie Wilson did not send Ambassador Wilson to Niger and she neither suggested him nor recommended him for the trip. Furthermore, the Ambassador agreed to travel to Niger pro bono with only his travel expenses being paid."
This is really going to put Darth Cheney in a big picture from his handwritten notes on Wilson Op-Ed and the smurf's testimonies in 2004.
YES! Sue them. Throw Pinocchio Novak in with the rest of the rotten bunch! I have a question- could the suit result in some kind of gag order, to stop the endless spinning and lies about the Wilson's? I'd like to see the Rove spin machine with an oversized sock stuffed into it. The lies are more and more revolting to hear and to read. But I would think Rove and his posse would not be able to make comments (i.e. lie and spin) about the events leading to their being sued, even in a civil case. Just wondering...
And Cheney's hand written notes:
1. "Do we ordinary send people out probono to work for us?"
2. "Did his wife send him on a junket?"
The really BURNING question seems to be:
Did Rover and Novak make up a storyline and alibi each other to cover each other's ass?? In Rover's case a hefty one?
Believe what you want, Novak is a lying S-O-B who will say and do anything for Cheney.
basheert,
Installed firefox and bypassed msn and got right in to firedoglake! I've been blocked out for more than a month from that site.
Go Valerie...
Go Joe...
No guts, no glory
Folks,
This has to be the bonehead article of the week:
Pete Coors Faces DUI Charge
GOLDEN, Colo. -- Pete Coors, chairman one of the world's largest beer brewing companies and a former candidate for U.S. senate, was arrested in May on a drunken driving charge, 7NEWS learned Thursday.
Coors, 59, was driving a 2004 Jaguar when he was pulled over in Golden by a Colorado State Patrol trooper just before midnight on May 29, according to officials in the Jefferson County District Court clerk's office.
He faces charges of driving under influence after registering a blood-alcohol level above the legal limit
of .08 percent. He also was cited with failure to obey a traffic control device.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/9514359/detail.html?treets=den&tml=den_break&ts=T&tmi=den_break_1_04560207132006
http://apnews.myway.com/article/
20060713/D8IRAT905.html
Anyone that has been following all the news in Iraq knows this is the truth and has been going on for a long time. Must keep the war going and get the bases built. Disgusting.
"I Love It Too..."
Sue those CROOKS now!!!!!!!!
Valerie Rocks...
the american public:
And best believe that the Gerbil will be yearning the bottle from this lastest civil suit by the Wilsons!
I hope the Wilson's make the Baron's, little soldier's and Rover's life so miserble with this lawsuit! The Baron probably won't be able to sleep at night or take naps...he will be counting his money like Scrooge.
And, scared of the dark...that the Ghost of Fitzmas Future is near...
Valerie and Joe Wilson ROCK!!
Here we go..
Cheney Scrooge
Thanks S-Q!!!
I assume it's hot enough for you?
Our pool is 93, a bit hot for a cool, refreshing dip.
113 is NOT fun!
Stole this from another thread - it is so good it needs to be repeated:
Top Ten Reasons Dick Cheney Won't Resign
10. Trying to fix up Condi Rice with his daughter
9. Turns out when you shoot somebody, if you're not vice president, you gotta do time
8. Bush leaves at two every day and then it's margaritas and Fritos
7. Set the solitare high score on his office computer
6. Wants to see if he can help Bush get his approval rating under ten
5. Too hard to give up Vice Presidential Discount at D.C. area Sam Goody stores
4. Wants to stay on the job until every country in the world hates us
3. Extra-zappy White House defibrillators
2. Undisclosed location has foosball and whores
1. Why quit when things are going so well?
It has been postulated (look it up Idiot Al) that Robert G. Joseph is the original source for Novak. I googled him and this is what I found.
http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/npr/vol08/83/jos83.htm
More on Robert G. Joseph - very interesting guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Joseph
Hi Folks,
Dit dit dash dash!
ALERT: Leak Case is on Novaks mind..
VIDEO: Dracula(Novak) Freaks out say's BullSh@# and walks off the set...
The Neo-CONs are snapping in rage everywhere...
Koors done gives me tha schiltz.
Must See Video!
quote:
I have been watching the debate over the renewal of the Voting Rights Act on C-SPAN and to say it is a friggin’ bigot parade is an understatement. One white GOP cracker after another coming up and trying to parse attempts to gut the bill as common-sense measures of "restraint." Really, it is Jim Crow all over again
:end quote
Video: Voting Rights Act Fiasco
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GEF:
So, enquiring minds want to know ... did Novak eat his young on camera?
basheert, that is some good stuff you posted! I am HAPPY TOO!!
HEAR THAT NSA? Face it- if you CYA Dubya- you are supporting the overthrow of the United States Government and in my book that's a no-no.
s-q, that was a good pic of Cheney- now tell me-how do you get a profile without signing up for a blog? Then I could post a blue "t". Today we met Sen Kerry-he is taking immediate action to assist the gold star mom to re-open the investigation into her son's death in Iraq. That was good news, she may finally have some closure...I was in senators offices ALL flippin' day-I should be paid just to educate them.
I am amazed at how much they don't know (legally) about a war they support. I turned a few of them on to a good booklet Law v. War -by the US Army War college, no less.
But gee, what do terrorism experts know about terrorism??
Nice GEF, I'll be back after I catch up on those videos...
basheert,
It looked like Dracula couldn't take the light!
They were just about to ask him about the leak case...
He thought about it and skeedadled fast...
He probably thought we would actually believe his little fiction..
GEF,
Thanks for the video of Maxine -- she is great...I sent my request to my House Rrep to extend the Voting Rights Act...it makes me sick how they want to gut this act for their corrupt purposes...
jsntf,
Actually Faux news has become the retirement home for Journalists and Anchors who lick boots and who's career is winding down...
The perfect retirement home. You don't actually have to think...
Just read the govt teleprompter
:)
chimpcoulter,
I'm not an African American but it steams my wiskers royally to see that in the 21st century we need to reauthorize a bill that gives them the right to Vote..
It's preposterous and of course the NeoCONs knowing full well that they haven't a pot to piss on now have to resort to such low of the low political stunts...
Bigotry and Racism is alive and healthy in Amerika...
>:(
Basheert:
Yes! It is too hot here!! I am thinking about a vacation to the Northwest to cool off soon. :)
T:
Good for Senator Kerry! And, good for you! Your efforts are paying off! :)
GEF:
Thanks for those videos! Novak is a creep! Maxine is a tough gal! Go Maxine!
May the White House administration Go Up In Plames...{giggle]...coming Archie
s-q,
We have to break up that old-boys network that they have up there in DC...
It's eating up America like a Cancer..
GEF -- you do not have to be African American to be uspet about the Voting Rights Act...it protects all minorities and all citizens...we know these theives have stolen all of our votes in 2000 and 2004 !!!! And if they can do it to just one American; they can do it to any of us...we must always stand united for all of our rights!!!
Have been very busy working and have not had a chance to read the posts re the Plame civil suit. Has anyone addressed the issue of the timing of the lawsuit?
Why now? Are there statute of limitations problems if they wait any longer? Has Fitz given Plame any indication that the filing of the civil suit will not impair his criminal investigation? Were Novak's recent public statements done because the Republicans knew the suit was coming and wanted to get Novak's statement out there first? Or are both events the result of Fitz informally advising both of them that he won't be pursuing his investigation further after Libby's prosecution is over?
Or is this a big feint by Fitz as part of his pursuit of others?
Inquiring minds want to know.
chimpcoulter,
quote:
we must always stand united for all of our rights!!!
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!
We're gonna watch them and their machines like a Hawk in November and if they try anything, anywhere we're gonna fight in court everywhere and expose their game from coast to coast!...
LOL, edith. I hope that witch Mary Matlin (I think that is how her name is spelled) is on the lawsuit. She's a liar and she's annoying how she doesn't open her mouth when she speaks. She acts like she has her jaws wired shut or something.
GEF:
Yes, you are absolutely correct and the only way we can do it is vote them out! Other than those being thrown out for their crimes.
don de drain,
I believe I read in another thread that Biloxi said that they are two seperate cases and won't interfere with his Investigation, which is by no means winding down as the NeoCONs would have you believe in their little fiction soap opera on TV....
"Inquiring minds want to know."
Sheeeesh, those are the $64 million questions -- and good ones...don de drain!
Why now? Are there statute of limitations problems if they wait any longer?
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I believe it is 3 years in D.C. and the 3 years would be up soon, I think. Someone correct me if I am wrong!
That swindler boy is gonna fry.. ;)
Abramoffs Problems got Bigger..
Alabama-Coushatta Tribe Files Suit Against Abramoff
...Just say no to Graft! :D
uh, roger,
That Indymedia link is blank for me...
???
PJF will bring Cheney to his knees...{giggle}...not a pretty picture Patrick...but you are so cute, I will forgive you...
Hey Roger:
It's always great to see you on the blog! That is wonderful news! Black Friday for neocons, huh?!
(Your indymedia link doesn't seem to work.)
On the lighter side of life:
Top Ten Dick Cheney Excuses for Shoointg Accident
10. Heart palpitation caused trigger finger to spasm
9. Wanted to get the Iraq mess of the front page
8. Not enough Jim Beam
7. Trying to stop the spread of bird flu
6. I love to shoot people
5. Guy was making cracks about my lesbian daughter
4. I thought the guy was trying to go 'gay cowboy' on me
3. Excuse? I hit him didn't I?
2. Until Democrats approve Medicare reform, we have to make some tough choices for the elderly
1. Made bet with Gretzgy's wife
Top Ten Signs The Government Is Spying On You
10. Post office wall has several photos of you sleeping
9. Your houseplant occasionally sneezes
8. Domino's keeps delivering to unmarked van parked across the street
7. Birthday card from your mom has several words blacked out
6. You get nominated for "Outstanding Lead Performance in an NSA Surveillance Video"
5. Your dishwasher functions are "Wash," "Rinse" and "Record"
4. Local news only reporting things that happen in your living room
3. Every time you say goodbye on the phone, you hear a strange voice say, "Roger that, Chico"
2. You googled a recipe for humus and the FBI raided your house
1. Suddenly discover there's an antenna bolted to your ass
Novakula video was funny, I've never seen anyone else get up and leave an interview like that!
Great news about the lawsuit against Cheney and his evil accomplices...
Roger:
Did you see this on the Wilson's Trust site?
"Should the civil action result in a payment to Joe and/or Valerie Wilson that is in excess of all costs associated with their legal activities, the equivalent of all monies contributed to the Trust will be returned to the Trust. All Trust money will then be distributed by the trustees to a charitable organization(s) that works to protect government whistleblowers’ First Amendment rights and helps to defend them from retaliatory action."
Roger,
Pirates Creedo:
"Time for them to walk the Plank..."
...ARRGHHH A bitter friday it will be..!!
Roflmao...
Dang ah's lihke tuh nail that little school marm Pamerler Rodgers.
Hay Pamerler! Am'a onlee 13!
Hay Al! Izzat yer daughter?
kiswrite,
Maybe count novakula is worried that his fiction will unwravel on TV once a certain Prosecutor decides to discount those wild tales being regurgitated by the spin cycle NeoCONs..
A song from R.E.M.:
Its the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine) Lyrics - Document Album
That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane -
Lenny Bruce is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -
world serves its own needs, don't misserve your own needs. Feed it up a knock,
speed, grunt no, strength no. Ladder structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Wire in a fire, represent the seven games in a government for
hire and a combat site. Left her, wasn't coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trump, tethered
crop. Look at that low plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign tower. Slash and burn,
return, listen to yourself churn. Lock him in uniform and book burning,
blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle,
light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush. Uh oh,
this means no fear - cavalier. Renegade and steer clear! A tournament,
a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives
and I decline.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
The other night I tripped a nice continental drift divide. Mount St. Edelite.
Leonard Bernstein. Leonid Breshnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs.
Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic,
slam, but neck, right? Right.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine...fine...
(It's time I had some time alone)
LOL! gef....
Novakula certainly looked ridiculous jumping up in a "fit" of anger and Carville was laughing, it was great!
PEACE All ;)
I always read "Who's Who" every night in bed with my cookies and milk."
http://politicstv.com/links.php?linkid=83&type=dspan#
Great stuff here! The first one, Aravosis: GOP Funneling Money,is about 3.5 min. and well worth a look. Just wanted to pass this along.
Roger...
Cloak and Dagger is great! If they replaced Fox News, Revolution would sweep the nation!
Great to hear about the upcoming civil suit on Vote fraud:)
This comes from the Urbansurvival site..
Has this ever been a week to make conspiracy theorists happy, or what? One set of thinking goes along the lines of "Ken Lay's death this week is somehow part of a war between political factions and that
former Secretary of State Colin Powell (who is rumored to have testified to one of the Fitzgerald grand juries) being rushed to the same hospital in Aspen Colorado where Lay was brought and pronounced dead, is not entirely coincidental." While I'm curious what Powell was talking to Bill Clinton about at dinner (secrets for to help Hillary leverage her way into the White House, perhaps?) the real problems faced by us plebes is not necessarily the ins and outs of funny money rumors in high (pun intended) places, but how do we cope with the obvious problems. I mean besides the Chinese fielding nuclear subs now that are reportedly in the same league with our Ohio-class boomers (designed with some of that Clintonista supplied computer gear, I expect). Nope, we have even bigger problems than that! Rearview inflation and resource gleaning.
Ha ha ha!
Yeah, Mr. Coors has dough. Interesting PR work that he comes out from sorrow for his mistakes after he gets caught. I just thought the article was a jok. He is a man who owns and promote liquor and that one item lands him into trouble!
Roger:
Time for Addington to walk the plank!
3 entries found for vitriolic.
vit·ri·ol·ic Audio pronunciation of "vitriolic" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vtr-lk)
adj.
1. Of, similar to, or derived from a vitriol.
2. Bitterly scathing; caustic: vitriolic criticism.
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vitriolic
adj 1: harsh or corrosive in tone; "an acerbic tone piercing otherwise flowery prose"; "a barrage of acid comments"; "her acrid remarks make her many enemies"; "bitter words"; "blistering criticism"; "caustic jokes about political assassination, talk-show hosts and medical ethics"; "a sulfurous denunciation" [syn: acerb, acerbic, acid, acrid, bitter, blistering, caustic, sulfurous, sulphurous, venomous, virulent] 2: of a substance, especially a strong acid; capable of destroying or eating away by chemical action [syn: caustic, corrosive, erosive]
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Watching Grover
1. Suddenly discover there's an antenna bolted to your ass
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We will all have one...before they are done with us! There will be strange buzzing noises coming from our behinds! LOL
s-q,
It's called tagged and release...
No thanks..
GEF:
Sure, I see it coming...a cell phone with GPS implanted in our ear and an antenna on our body somewhere! We'll be high tech robots! LOL
Grover Scalped over 1.5 million
:)
Gotta love the Grover pictures...Novak-he is a problem-charge him too-with being a jerk.
Roger,
The more that Abramoff talks and squeak more names that more people brought to justice. Let's not forget the aides of the people committed graft are naming names. Abramoff, Spanky DeLay, and others will go down!
As far as California and the Enron scam, Rep. Joe Dunn who is running for Tresurer and who is an attorney is still determined to recover the billion of dollars that were stolen from the electricity regardless of the "death" of Lay!
s-q,
Wild-Buck like to buck hard when you try to tag them...
I do too... ;)
Did anyone see this?
Ron Paul: Impeach Bush
'North American Union is bellwether for world government'
News Wire:
Republican Congressman Ron Paul says President Bush has presided over a doctrine of
violating the Constitution at every turn and that he should be impeached. He says that
Bush should be impeached not under the umbrella of partisan vengeance but for ceaselessly
breaking the laws of the land.
GEF and s-q,
I don't take kindly to the thought of being tagged or bagged either-won't be going down without a fight ;-)
Biloxi,
quote:
As far as California and the Enron scam, Rep. Joe Dunn who is running for Tresurer and who is an attorney is still determined to recover the billion of dollars that were stolen from the electricity regardless of the "death" of Lay!
*the NeoCONs are gonna be in court for the next decade.. :) :) :)
*roflmao..
Hey, the day of the lawsuit press conference, July 14th, is the 3rd year anniversary of Novak's column (and Bastile Day). They need to sock it to them. Lawsuits are not always about winning but getting something to STOP. Until I hear otherwise, I think all that was about 'workplace' retaliation / revenge. The WH was hopping mad about Wilson's column and could not go after him directly, so they went after his wife instead, thinking they would not get caught. That is what spoiled brat / schoolyard bullies do when they grow up and get powerful jobs.
For those folks who think the outing was all about getting Plame off Iran, the outing was in 2003. Pres. Khatami was still president in 2003, not Ahmadinejad. If you think I am wrong about that, go do some homework on Khatami--he was not the same as his replacement. I certainly buy into the idea that those guys were furious about Wilson's column and wanted revenge. And, they were mad at the CIA for the Niger trip.
They are still mad at the CIA, which is why they keep messing with the CIA and putting the military guy in charge, instead of promoting one of them. These folks lose sight of what is good for the country but instead let their personal biases get in the way. They think about only what is good for themselves.
On another high-ranking person . . . Hastert has diabetes, and I bet Basheert can address how difficult it is for a diabetic to get rid of an infection.
Hastert's opponent is a kid. I do not know his actual age. He's a nice kid and certainly not corrupt, but he has very little experience. His campaign is run by other young people and angry union guys. John Laesch link I think the odds of winning the Illinois lottery might be better than this guy beating out Hastert. For Hastert to lose, there would have to be a lot more scandal and/or he would have to be really ill. I do not believe it is realistic to think that Hastert will lose in November unless something really drastic happens.
I do not know what will happen in Israel other than right now, that has the potential to be a complete bloodbath. There have been problems in the past and things settled down but I have a really bad feeling about this right now. If anyone has information on a chronology of when Israel started calling up its reserves in the past, that would be helpful.
I think the bigger question is: who was Jack's boss? Who told Jack what was a go to do.
GEF and T:
I know exactly what you're saying! Me too! :)
" S-Q said...
GEF:
Sure, I see it coming...a cell phone with GPS implanted in our ear and an antenna on our body somewhere! We'll be high tech robots! LOL"
Oh, I cannot let this go--see, that's why they've had all those space aliens pushing things into people's noses for all these years.
Tin Man--Yes, THAT WAS A JOKE!!!!
GEF and Roger:
I will keep a close eye on the matter of California Enron Scam from Mr. Dunn. Dunn hasn't ignored the Gerbil Administration, Baron, Holy Joe, and the Gropinator connection. He espcially want s to nail Arnold. But, he will not forget the Gerbil's involvement! that state lost billions from that Enron scam and still are suffering out there!
t said,
quote:
He says that Bush should be impeached not under the umbrella of partisan vengeance but for ceaselessly
breaking the laws of the land.
We can start with a gross violation of his oath of office to
PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES FROM ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC !
1. The Patriot Act nullifies the Constitution.
2. He has signed away sovereignty to foreign powers as part as an unconstitutional effort to globalise.
3. He sells our ports to questionable entities which compromises our security
4. He refuses to secure our borders and ports because it goes against item 2 of my list
5. He refuses to follow the Constitution laws and has been investigated for breaking them.
(Calling our Constitution a G'dam piece a paper alone should outrage and disgust even the most ardent of Bushs followers. Because I know that many Republicans and Independents are Nationalists...)
...and this is but a start of the windfall litigation that is being prepared for him.
We do not harbor hate for Bush nor want to commit any gross security violations while America is in a state of war. But the Constitution must be followed during both PEACE time and WAR time. It is not negotiable and it applies to all INCLUDING the President.
There are no Kings or Dictatorships in our Constitutional Republic.
Hey remember what all this outing of CIA, WOT, ect was about?
Paul Pillar-expert on terrorism
Three universal truths about terrorists are: First, terrorists are unhappy with the status quo; second, terrorists lack the political power to alter the status quo through legitimate, peaceful means; and finally, terrorists lack the military power to force a change. A terrorist has a very black and white worldview that divides “us,” the virtuous and pure, from “them,” the corrupt and unclean. Terrorists see the world at a tipping point, and their goal is to devise an attack that will alter the status quo; that will throw the world into chaos, a cleansing war, a jihad. White Supremacists’ call it RAHOWA, short for Racial Holy War. Charles Manson called it Helter-Skelter. Whatever they call it, the terrorists believe that out of the chaos, their people will rise and dominate, either because God, or simply justice, is on their side.
Oh, I cannot let this go--see, that's why they've had all those space aliens pushing things into people's noses for all these years.
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Oh thank God! It was their noses? I heard they were doing anal probes!!
ROFLMAO
Night Owl, Do you know if the press conference be in DC? I would like to watch if so
Sometime it is fun to google names from C&D with other known names and see where it leads...very interesting.
http://www.superpatriots.us/
aboutthecase/thefirsttrial.htm
from googling..V.B.,T.S.,D.R.,and D.C.
I had no idea things like this were even going on back then.
Oops that was not Pillar-that quote was Michael German, FBI Agent, lawyer who has actually infiltrated home grown terror orgs...TERROR orgs-ha,ha,ha...why funny? In corrections we called them "gang members"-and we didn't declare war over them!
Jack Abramoff's boss is in the UK.
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Do we know his name Roger?
t,
yep, they've renamed them Domestic Terrorists...
..and persons of interests...
(smile they're wasting your tax dollars) :)
They've got all kinds of preposterous terms for people...
Why complicate life is beyond me...
ha ha ha ha ha ha...
The bastards of Straight, Inc. that did those horrible things to the kids!
Well, isn't that an interesting tidbit s-q...
GEF, Thugs is thugs is thugs...Did you guys hear about the German court decision that the war in Iraq was illegal under their constitution? (June 2005) Well, Lt. Watada does...I sent it to him.
I think when people caught wind of this-that is why they didn't let the last batch of soldiers jump off-it's called "material participation".
t,
quote:
"material participation"
Yeah we call that accessory to the crime!
hee hee hee..
Hmm. Roger...I've never heard of him but if he is connected to Mel Sembler...there are many dots to connect and the big picture is getting uglier!
Do you have a link for info on him?
teak, I heard about that Straight, Inc. What a bunch of wacko's
The Plame lawsuit press conference is listed here which is a PDF off the legal defense Web site. Time, 10:00 a.m., National Press Club, 14th & F St.
**************
I found a fun punishment for Novak. He should be sent to Russia to spend the rest of his days interviewing FSB agents. Here's a typical response by one of those folks to a journalist:
"Answer: Because journalists love asking stupid questions, and none of our people want to have anything to do with them. I'm sometimes amused by what I read in the papers: journalists say "we called a certain special service, and our source told us..." Can't you think of anything more stupid? Would anyone ever talk to you by phone?"
Biloxi,
SPIN CYCLE!
HERE WE GO WITH FAUX NEWS SPINNING THE IRAN ISRAEL US CONNECTION TO JUSTIFY ATTACKING IRAN!
FAUX WH SPIN CYCLE VIDEO
______________
GEF, Looking FW to see them as Granny says "Blued, screwed and tatooed"
hee,hee
G'Night
Going to meet with the Quakers tomorrow night-hope you can make it NSA!! I'll let you know the time and place-or you can just keep listening in on my cell conversations...
Speaking of probes..look at this when I googled those names earlier, read down at the sick ramblings of that man, who the hell does that to people?
http://www.kathryncramer.com/
kathryn_cramer/
stopped a large container full of "stockings, shirts, underwear and etc..." for poor children in Kosovo. This was on the Hungarian-Serbian border in the year 1998. I do not need to tell you what so called humanitarian organization was charged with this, they are still around and it took legal and political means to get them off the hook. Among all the normal stuff we found hundreds of specially designed iron tools, specially designed to allow extraction of human eyes in vivo. Also, other types which were obviously designed to penetrate via the nasal passage to brain. What I am here telling you is that some NGOs have extremely bad memories or worse, especially when you act and live in territory that often has been targeted. That s why I perhaps sound like jackalope but : I AM NOT!
Sick, sick.
Funny: Announced on the 13 and to be held on the 13th floor:
"WHEN:
Friday, July 14, 2006
10:00 AM
WHERE:
National Press Club
529 14th St. NW, 13th Floor
Washington, DC 20045"
Thanks Night Owl, appreciate that. I am going to try to get over there-but that is the same time I have to be someplace else-darn-I would rather see it in person-the media has a tendency to-well, you know...
Military families may be suing them-but I haven't yet had time to write the brief-the grounds are solid as a rock.
Time for this Crime fighter to get some shut eye...
However I sleep light tho, If I hear graft I immediately wake up and will let you know..
;)
Roger:
Looks as though Mel Sembler has non-profit organizations but he has ALWAYS been huge contributor to GOP and especially the Bush clan!
Final posting:
A bitch slap on Shug:
Americablog:
Rumor: Israel Tells Condi Rice to "Back Off"
Steve Clemons at the Washington Note:
Although I do not have independent confirmation, I heard the rumor from a well-placed source that Secretary of State Rice attempted to increase pressure on Israel to stand down and to demonstrate "restraint". The rumor is that she was told flatly by the Prime Minister's office to "back off".
Rice is not one to be told to back off without the other party paying a price. Israel's outrageous, over-the-top military escalations were exactly what the most militarist fanatics of Hamas wanted and exactly what Hezbollah wanted to prompt. Those in the middle of the extremists on all sides are getting crushed....
Good Night folks! Signing off!
Goodnight T
Goodnight GEF (whispers GRAFT!...are you awake again?)
s-q,
I heard that... now cut that out..
zzzzzz... g'night
GEF:
hehe
Goodnight Global Evildoer Fighter!
Goodnight Super Special Prosecutor Biloxi Man!
Teak--that person writing about the stuff in Serbia was all over the place, probably due to ESL writing. The writing of the Katheryn Cramer, the blog owner, was a mess, too. So the information probably needs to be triangulated, checked against at least two other sources. I find that people who cannot write in an organized fashion often cannot think in an organized fashion either.
But, there were all kinds of nasty atrocities going on in the former Yugoslavia. Milosevich certainly belonged in jail at The Hague for war crimes, and is probably rotting away in hell.
Roger:
Thanks for the links! I've been doing some research & reading on Sembler and Alexander. Also, reading about "The Seed" and "The Straight"...I think I am now sick!!
No, I am not just sick...I am angry! The things they did to those children!! American children being brainwashed using North Korean techniques! For 17 years!! Damn!
Christopher Wolf, the Plame/Wilson lawyer, is best known as a specialist in Internet Law. He has written the following articles for Martindale:
Under a March 8, 2006 ruling of the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, a departing employee who scrubs clean the hard drive of an employer-provided computer may face civil, and potentially criminal, liability under the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, 18 U.S.C. §1030 et seq. Employers thus have a potential new tool to deal with malicious departing employees.
Easy but ignorant legal question (because I am not a lawyer and I would never claim to know everything):
In a civil lawsuit, would a presidential pardon be possible?
Ford pardoned Nixon before anything could get off the ground, but for any federal crimes he might have committed and none of that was being pursued in a civil court.
I thought that comment (above) was interesting, given the "missing" e-mails.
but this is what I meant to post:
Articles on martindale.com:
Exiting Employee's Deletion of Important Computer Files Creates Federal Law Liability under New Seventh Circuit Decision
Christopher Wolf, David A. Rappaport, Anthony J. Oncidi, Kathleen M. McKenna, March 17, 2006, previously published March 2006.
Updated January 2006: States Continue to Pass Security Breach Notification Laws: Businesses Must Comply with Various and Sometimes Conflicting Regulations
Christopher Wolf, David A. Rappaport, February 8, 2006, previously published January 2006.
Security Breach Notification Triggers Class Action Lawsuits
Christopher Wolf, David A. Rappaport, January 26, 2006, previously published January 2006.
States Continue to Pass Security Breach Notification Laws: Businesses Must Comply With Various and Sometimes Conflicting Regulations
Christopher Wolf, November 22, 2005, previously published October 2005.
Things that make me go hmmm... said... ---Internet or employment? That information about the hard drives sounds like employment law. Plame would need an employment specialist lawyer. I read the legal document posted on the Web site. Without being a lawyer, it looked like a lot of it dealt with employment issues to me.
Things that make me go hmmm...
OK, yes, the second post looks like it is more computer-related.
Thanks for posting the first one, though. I know lots of disgruntled employees. I will warn them to behave themselves.
;-)
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Night Owl, I thought that comment was interesting, given the "missing" e-mails...
Hi folks,
did anyone watch the Coulter - Deutsch - video?
Well if you haven't here's the link and for me her most shocking comment was around 22 min when he asked her...
knowing what we do know what she would have done after 9/11 - invade Iraq or use the money to protect the US in a different way and
her response:
I might have invested in more nukes, but appearantly this country is not willing to take civilian casulties......
after WWII there were insurgents, who where Nazis but we carpet bombed German cities, we killed SO MANY civilians ... there were fewer insurgents...
She would have made a very good NAZI herself I dare say
Now I'm seriously pissed off how can anyone say that just nuking a civilian population will stop insurgency ...
...
Yes by all means let's just NUKE OUT the hole Iraqi population that will stop insurgency!!
Sick - Sick - Sick
Ann-Coulter-Donny-Deutsch
Waterflake,
Just 3 weeks before 911 I met an English gentlemen who still had nightmares about his Normandy beach experiences. Into our 3rd or 4th "pints" he strongly stated that we in the US had never been bombed and our national identity lacked the memories and horror of that happening unlike the European nations.
Ann Coulter is one many here of the thinking.."turn the whole Mid East into glass"..."one dead Iraqi kid, one dead future terroist".
Unrealistic, heartless and insane.
Ann Coulter RULES!!!!! Plame & Wilson are fakers. Why isn't it Wilson & Wilson? Go Figure!
The Wilson & Wilson defense fund will be more money down a rat hole just like the millions spent on the Fitzgerald Prosecution fund which was paid for by taxpayers. Money spent, no results. Go Figure.
This Wilson & Wilson civil law suit can't be good news for the "red meat" Fitz bloggers. With expectations of "frog marching" and striped suits for Rove and Cheney to have to settle for a lost cause civil suit has to be the "downer" of the year. Boo Hoo!!!
CTJ,
Thank you for that comment.
The sad thing is that "WE" have become indifferent to collateral damage as long as it serves our purpose...
"WE" have become subhumans and as you said heartless people and that includes those who pretend not to be guilty because in a case such as Iraq EVERYBODY is responsible ESPECIALLY when doing NOTHING...
Thank you for your comment!
Put Rove,Libby and Cheney in the poor house and on Skid Row!!
Joe and Valerie Wilson ROCK!!!
Dearest Al Evil,
Thank you for the lovely and thoughtful gift.
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I promise that our next session will be one you will always cherish and remember.
With Hate,
Ann
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I just love seeing the White House going up in Plames...
It makes me look forward to the November elections even more...
Madsen has his head up his @ss...he has no idea what PJF is doing...more crazy speculation...
Go Valerie, Joe, and Team Fitzie...
It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas...love that song
We need a fun new thread from the Man of the Year: Fitzie!!!
Good Morning Justice Bloggers...
GOP can be questioned in phone scandal
Judge grants request to allow depositions
By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | July 14, 2006
WASHINGTON -- A New Hampshire judge yesterday cleared the way for Democrats to question top Republican Party officials -- including its former national committee chairman -- in connection with a 2002 phone-jamming scheme, as a local political scandal continues to reach into the realm of national politics.
Hillsborough County Superior Court Judge Philip Mangones granted the Democrats' request to allow depositions of Republican officials. Each subpoena would have to be granted on a case-by-case basis, however. If individual subpoenas are granted, officials will be forced to answer questions under oath about whether they were involved in the plan to tie up Democratic get-out-the-vote hot lines on Election Day 2002.
``We want to figure out the scope of the conspiracy," said Finis E. Williams III, an attorney for the New Hampshire Democratic Party. ``Was the White House involved in this? We'd like to know that. The Republicans have never to this day come forward and come clean and said who was involved in this and who wasn't."
Among those in question are Ed Gillespie, who was Republican National Committee chairman at the time of the incident; former RNC political director Terry Nelson, who is now a top adviser to Senator John McCain of Arizona; and Alicia Davis, who worked in the White House political affairs office under Ken Mehlman, the current RNC chairman.
Williams said the Democratic Party will seek to compel testimony from Gillespie, Nelson, Davis, and at least five other officials. He said the party may also try to depose Mehlman, depending on the testimony the others give. Democrats also want to force the White House to identify who spoke to New Hampshire Republican operatives in the days surrounding the election.
Through his ruling, the judge made subpoenas possible, but he did not include individual requests for specific depositions. An RNC lawyer, Robert Kelner, indicated yesterday in court that some of the subpoenas may be contested.
National GOP leaders, including Gillespie and Mehlman, have denied knowing about the scheme in advance and say Democrats are using the situation to score political points. Kelner said the RNC did not fight the efforts to allow subpoenas because party leaders have nothing to hide, though he said each individual will decide whether to testify.
``To my mind, this appears to be largely a political exercise aimed at an election-year audience," Kelner said.
According to court testimony, officials with the New Hampshire Republican Party hired a telemarketing company to tie up the hot lines Democrats and a local firefighters' union had set up to help get voters to the polls. The scheme was called off after less than 90 minutes, after state party officials questioned its legality.
The incident, however, led to the conviction of two Republican Party officials -- one associated with the state party and one with the national party -- as well as an executive of the company that conducted the automated phone calls.
The phone jamming occurred as voters chose between Representative John E. Sununu and Governor Jeanne Shaheen in one of the most closely watched Senate races in the country. Sununu won the race by about 20,000 votes, helping Republicans regain control of the Senate.
Democrats point to phone records that show that James Tobin, the national GOP official convicted in the scheme, had regular contact with the White House and the RNC during the three days in which the plan was finalized and carried out.
Tobin was the RNC's regional director for the Northeast during the 2002 elections, and the party has covered his legal bills, which have totaled more than $2 million. Tobin, who was sentenced in May to 10 months in prison, has appealed his conviction.
``Top Republican operatives will finally have to answer questions about their involvement in an illegal scandal aimed at stopping people from voting," said Michael Gehrke, executive director of the Senate Majority Project, a Democratic interest group that conducted the analysis of phone records.
The GOP depositions would become part of a civil lawsuit Democrats have filed against Republicans, seeking unspecified damages stemming from the jamming. The trial is to begin Nov. 27 -- meaning the pretrial depositions would occur in the months leading up to the congressional elections.
Can't help but think the Wilsons would not have gone to Civil court unless they felt that
PJF would not be finishing the job.
Which means Dark Evil Cheney, the Evil Decider in Chief and Rover have all won.
A very sad day in America - great for the Wilsons.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006
/6/28/122051/908
Another negative smear campaign.
Courage and honor for TEAM Fitz.
Tin Man--funny as always. The squirrel is actually quite hideous. It is an orange ash tray. Yuk!
For the last time, George Ryan emptied out death row in Illinois AFTER he already knew he was in BIG TROUBLE. He never said anything about planning to do that until after he was in trouble. It was all a big publicity stunt. The 'journalists' at WMR really need to go do some homework, starting with the work of Fitz in New York. After WMR masters basic research, then those folks can move on to more tricky stuff. Sure, finding corrupt officials in Illinois is easy, but, getting a conviction against them is difficult. A good journalist would go look at why getting a conviction in Illinois is difficult. A good journalist would go look at who and why Fitz was brought to Illinois.
Roger:
You mentioned Sandra Mortham and I did some research & found that she is a sister to Carol McCain, who was John McCain's first wife! McCain divorced Carol, after 20 years of marriage.
A month after the divorce, McCain married Cindy Lou Hensley, heiress to Phoenix-based Hensley & Co., the nation's second-largest Anheuser-Busch distributor.
6 miles,
I don't think your presumption is correct...I hope you can keep the faith...Justice takes time...it's better to be hopeful than sad...
Go Team Fitzie!
"teak said...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006
/6/28/122051/908
Another negative smear campaign."
I had to stop reading that. I was laughing! I just do not have time today to pick apart everything that was off in that article.
Poll: Americans Want Democrats in Power
Poll
from the Plame Press Conference:
Joe Wilson said, "We are under no illusions about how tough this fight will be. But we believe the time has come to hold those who use their official positions to exact personal revenge accountable and responsible for their actions."
You mean somebody is going to make these crooks accountable: Amen!!!
Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening folks!
TGIF!
I had viewed the Keith Olbermann's video this morning about the Wilson's lawsuit and former WH counsel, John Dean's thought about the lawsuit. Dean says that he knew that the Wilson would pursue a civil suit with defamation of character and violating their civil rights. But, more importantly, Dean pointed out that the Wilsons' 23 pages lawsuit(and I read the 23 page) make references to the Fitzgerld's current filings and court documents on the leak case (U.S. vs. Libby Cr. No. 05-394 (RBW)). In other words, this civil suit goes also more beyond just asking for money. The Wilsons are really want answers from the Administration of their conduct. but, it leaves the public also wanted answers too. Dean said that the civil suit is brought under the rule of the Bivens vs. Unknown Names Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics (a 1971 case). that case included statutory civil rights. this case is mentioned in Wilsons' lawsuit. Dean did say that the Wilson will win this case. but this case put the smurf in a pickle since he is currently preparing for his criminal case with the goverment and now have to prepare for a civil lawsuit against the Wilsons.
The Wilsons and their attorneys were very clever by filing this lawsuit now. They waited patiently. And they will give Mr. Novak a bottle of champaigne when this over because Novak help the Wilsons to file their lawsuit unwittingly. When cocky Novak came forward with his Danielle Steel's version of his story and he named Rove as one of his sources in writing and in public, that sealed the Wilsons to move forward with their lawsuit. That it what was needed as proof that Rove was involved in the leak case and he was one of the sources for one of the reporters. And it happened to be Novak! Olbermann asked Dean why wasn't Novak is in the Wilson's lawsuit (And I know that alot of you bloggers wanted Novak in that civil suit filing). Dean said that Novak is a separate lawsuit from the Wilson's lawsuit against Rove, Libby, and Cheney. I think that thatit was smart of the Wilsons to focus on those key players who are directly involved in the leak case and discrediting the Wilsons. I wouldn't rule out the Wilsons pursing Novak in a lawsuit. That is up to them. They are going after the big guns first.
As far as the little soldier and the new pickle that he is in, Matalin has to throw a hell of a lot of KFC chicken dinners to pay his share of his civil suit! If Libby doesn't have the loose charge to pay his substantial legal fees for his criminal and civil case, his attorneys, Cline, Jeffress, and Wells will sue Libby for their fees as well as his civil attorneys. The smurf is the only one out of the group with no resources!
But, great interview with Dean on the Olbermann show!
From the Plame conference:
Valerie Plame Wilson says:
"I and my former colleagues trusted the government to protect us in our jobs" and said it "betrayed that trust. I'd much rather be continuing my career as a public servant than as a plaintiff in a lawsuit."
Night Owl,
It seemed like the article with every negative thing the author could throw in the pot about Mr. Fitzgerald. I posted it to show another example of the B.S. being slung out there against Mr. Fitzgerald.
If the diary needs picked apart, I'd trust SPB or Miss Jackie for the task.
Report: Harris tried to implicate Scarborough in intern's death
RAW STORY
Published: Friday July 14, 2006
Katherine Harris' downward slide began with a phone campaign to implicate Joe Scarborough in the 2001 death of an intern, according to insiders quoted in a report in today's Miami Herald.
Excerpts from the Herald story follow:
#
...It was Joe Scarborough, host of the prime-time MSNBC show Scarborough Country and a former Pensacola Republican congressman who was courted last summer by national Republicans to run against Harris. But before he could announce he wouldn't, Harris called major donors and suggested Scarborough would have to answer questions about the strange death of a former staff member in 2001, according to two former high-level Harris staff members, a GOP donor and Scarborough.
''That was the first clue that something wasn't right with Katherine Harris,'' Scarborough told The Miami Herald in a recent interview, noting that a medical examiner found his staff member's death was natural and not the result of foul play.
Harris, through a spokeswoman, denied Scarborough's account, saying she ''would never insinuate publicly or privately'' that he did anything untoward.
But her former staff members say they expected her to deny the previously untold anecdote, which they say marked the beginning of the Harris campaign's tailspin. Since then, Harris has been dogged by her connections to an indicted defense contractor and by heavy staff turnover from last fall through Thursday, when five top aides announced their departure a day after her spokesman quit. Her campaign had issued a news release Wednesday suggesting only spokesman Chris Ingram was leaving.
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This one is for PJF (a little afternoon humor on a hot sunny day in the Hamptons)...
"Do women know about shrinkage?"
"What do you mean, like laundry?"
"No..."
"Like when a man goes swimming... Afterwards..."
"It shrinks?"
"Like a frightened turtle."
"Why does it shrink?"
"It just does."
"I don't know how you guys walk around with those things."
Joe Wilson is an avid life long world traveled surfer.
His level is only for the uber-tough guys and not for quitters period.
Here's to hoping that he shoulder-
hops that WH crew of ho-daddys.
chimpcoulter
justice takes time; in the meantime we have acts of treason, against the very fabric of the Constitution [to quote the Evil Decider in Chief .."just a f***ing piece of paper"] and the perpetuation of killing hundreds, now thousands of American troops in contrived wars.
Just watch -- we'll have to be in there with Israel and we'll just go after Iran and N Korea while we're at it.
FOR WHAT? the Evil Deciders EGO?
Beyond despicable.
"George, Jerry and Elaine said...
This one is for PJF (a little afternoon humor on a hot sunny day in the Hamptons)..."
That was very funny. Hey Al! Are you master of your domain?
Teak--I should add that I know Markos from years ago and with that, I have more than a little bias. Too bad the liberals do not have someone like Markos but with more intelligence and better research skills writing on topics like him.
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