About your previous comment regarding war protestors doing more harm than good. What do you expect people to do when politicians ignore military families, mistreat our troops and send them into wars of choice woefully unprepared??? Protestors that I know are middle class, middle aged -often former military themselves. I have family that was in Iraq-with the National Guard, no less. I had to send him tools-just so he could do his job of repairing radios-guess you being a Vet, I don't have to tell you how vital communications are... Anyway-do you expect me and thousands of other military families to stand by in silence, while politicians who have never donned the uniform, let alone been to combat, misuse the lives of our loved ones? Sorry, I'll get out in the street first...I respect their lives far too much to send them off as this presidents mercenaries. Not to mention I love my country too. I am the daughter of a Marine-he was originally for this war-until he educated himself. He tends to be a law and order kind of guy. Google- West Point Graduates Against the War. On their site highlighted, look at all the treaties, Geneva Convention and international laws broken by Bush for this war. THEN you can tell me what to do to stop this unjust, immoral war...instead of knocking people who at least try to do something. PS-Building 7? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com To the others, I'll be getting down from my soapbox now...
I feel the same way you do. There's that thin line between Al's feelings and ours. I think he dosn't want the protesters to show disrespect to the troops who are giving their lives and must trust the ones sending them in our name and for US (I mean that in both terms). We don't trust the ones sending them but do respect and love our troops as much as he does.
Some how that makes both groups seem unpatriotic to the other when nothing could be futher from the truth.
"T", we are at war and it will last as long as it last. The war on terror will be an ongoing process for a long time. Just as in Vietnam the North knew if they waited long enough the war would be won on the streets of the USA and not on the battlefield. The same as back then, the insurgents in Iraq know if they can hold on long enough they too can win the war in the streets in America. There isn't an Army in the world that can defeat us on the battlefield. The encouragement that the war protestors give the enemy only causes more deaths in the end game. As I've said before, no one I know enjoys war or seeing young men and women killed or maimed for the rest of their lives. If our troops aren't getting their supplies then that is a serious issue that needs addressed. I just saw a photo of a war protestor at a funeral of a fallen soldier holding a sign that said, "Thank the Lord for IED's". The young soldier he was protesting gave his life so that fellow could make an ass out of himself. The next time someone uses a slur to describe a public official, thank a soldier for his service that you have a right to make an ass out of yourself.
The Bush administration has asked federal judges in New York and Michigan to dismiss two lawsuits filed over the National Security Agency's domestic eavesdropping program, saying litigating them would jeopardize state secrets. ...
John D. Negroponte, the director of national intelligence, invoked the state secrets privilege, writing that disclosure would cause "exceptionally grave damage" to national security. The administration laid out some of its supporting arguments in classified memos, filed under seal.
It looks like these terrosits are aiding and abetting our government on keeping everything they want to do secret in the name of "national secuirty." How convenient.
The Center for Constitutional Rights has asked a judge to stop the program. Does anyone think they have a chance of fighting this? Any brave judges left...
Subway serenade, Bush is the Commader and Chief and has every right to use the military when he sees fit. He got the approval of congress for the war in Iraq. Just like Johnson had the right to send me to Vietnam. Get over it.
What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD JANUARY 30, 2004 | Printable Version
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton. - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source
Al some will counter those quotes by saying that blaming the Democrats in Congress for agreeing to war is like blaming the little girl who got in the strangers car to look for a puppy. Now I do not necessarily agree completely with that offensive analogy as IMO many of the Dems and certain Republicans then were too gutless to go against the public consensus at that time.
I admit to falling for the stories fed to Judy Miller by Ahmed Chalabi.
I won't wait until we lose 58,000 American soldiers-why will you?
The protestor you refer to was protesting a soldiers funeral because of the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy for gays in the military. Get your facts straight. That is disgraceful-but you are probably torn on the gay issue anyway...so tell your friends to protest the war-not military policy. By the way, the military told Bush the war would fail-purely from a strategic sense because the plan sucked. Don't believe me? Try the US Army War College-which is where most of my information comes from. Your ignorance is appalling-you a for a war that even the Army is against. I don't know if it is lack of ability on your part or lack of knowledge-most of the military is against this war-why don't you support them? Because you support the war-NOT the troops. Again, I don't have the time to educate you. Educate yourself or please don't talk to me-and I don't give a damn about quotes from politicians-like I said-I get my info from the Army: WHR
PS- The Guard gave me a pin for appreciation of a military family speaking out about this illegal war...another reason I doubt you were ever a soldier.
Just a little thought here. Hubs was medical director at an EVAC hospital during 'Nam. He did his job, and he hates war.
He also shares my absolute passion for hating the Bush administration and what it is doing to this country, not just the war, but pretty much the entire Executive Elevation to God movement.
I hate the Iraq war and what it is doing to people - I protest every chance I get (as I did in the 60's) because it is my right as a citizen.
However, I have in the past 2 years, supported approximately 10 soldiers on the front lines throught the www.anysoldier.com connection. I have sent over 75 boxes - cards - letters...phone cards.
It is not their fault - they are doing their jobs and they deserve our support.
This is still a republic - it is not yet a dictatorship. Not all of us follow the Military Ideals nor do we believe that the President and Vice President (5 deferments) have the answers.
As a US citizen, I believe I have been lied to from day 1, about everything in this administration.
Someone said the other day, the Haldeman and Ehrlichmann would be thrilled. The Nixonian Revolution has finally been achieved.
But yes I do support the troops - that does not mean I give up my right to argue that our Administration is going to be reviled through history as the worst this nation has ever endured.
The military is a victim. The many cards and letters I've received (and emails) indicate that they also are doubting the effort. They want to be home. They are young, and want to be back living normal lives.
When Bushco sends the twins - I'll buy his story. When Congress sends their children, they'll have credibility.
Just my opinion - which legally I am still entitled to maintain. My husband saw horrible things in his hospital. Things you never forget.
cjt- Thanks for that. I am active in Military Families Speak Out, but that is a new one to me. I can give that out for referrals to folks.
basheert, you are so right the military IS a victim of Bushco.
Subway, keep singing ;-) All the anti-GOP, anti-war songs are very uplifting.
What will we all do with "no news" for until Tuesday? I will shake off much of this anger, as soon as some indictments come down...Hurry Fitzmas, don't be late!
And I hope that everyone is having a wonderful Memorial Day weekend! What is on my mind today?? Well, I was up very late in the morning reading the two documents in which Fitzgerald posted on the blog and was posted on his Special Counsel website. I also told Fitzgerald in an email that I would make a comment on the two documents.
First document: Exhibit A-C
I can now see the inconsistencies of the little soldier's testimony to the GJ on March 5, 2004, and on both March 24, 2004. In Exhibit A on March 5, 2004,:
Q.: And during the time did the Vice-President indicate that he was upset that the article was out there which falsely in his view attacked his credibility? A: Yes, sir Q: And do you recall what iti is that the Vice-President said? A: I recall that he was upset that he was keen to get the truth out. He wanted to get all of the facts out about what he had or hadn't done, what the facts were or weren't.
From this exchange with Libby, Libby was very sharp in question to Fitz on March 24, 2004. Libby even described how Cheney cut out articles and kept them at his desk and "thinks about it." Also, Libby recognized Cheney's handwritten notes which Fitz called Grand Jury Exhibit 8. Libby was familiared with Cheney's writing. This contradicts what Libby has recently said to the media that he can't recalled that the handwritten notes were Cheney's.
Now in Exhibit B on March 24, 2004, Fitz asked the same questions but rephrased it in a different way to Libby. Now, Libby started to use the Gilligan's defense. I can't recall syndrome. Libby can't recall conversations. He recalled in March 5 but not on March 24!
In Exhibit C, March 24, 2004: This is an interesting exchange with Libby. Again, Fitzgerald rephrases the questions to Libby:
Q: Do you recall the Vice-President indicating or asking you or anyone in your presence whether or not Ambassador Wilson's wife had arranged to him sent on a junket? A. I think I recall him--I don't recall him asking me that particular question, but I think I recall him musing about that. Q. Okay. And do you recall when it was that he mused about that? A. I think it was after the Wilson column. Q. Okay, and obviously-- A. I don't mean the Wilson column, I'm sorry, I misspoke. I think it was after the Novak column.
Sounds like Libby is entrapped in his his own words. Libby would have never thought Armitage would be a key witness to this case. He never knew that Armitage had been cooperating with Fitz from day one. You can see the change of behavior from Libby on March 5, 2004 and March 24, 2004.
Second document: Fitz's response to Libby regarding new articles the Gov't intends to offer at trial. Case number: 05-394 (RBW)
The bottom line is that Fitz is presenting a state of mind of Cheney from Cheney's handwritten notes on a clipping of the Wilson Op-Ed. Fitz is showing Cheney's "views communicated during the conversations that Cheney and Libby had during the period immediately following the publication of Wilson Op-Ed which is essential as proof that Libby knowingly made false statements to federal agents and the grand jury." The smurf should have plea bargained with Fitz from the get-go.
Hi guys nice comments here. First I'm like to comment on the NSA lawsuits. Everything is national security as reason to stop the rights of people. Gonzales should have used the defense for all the criminal acts of Abramoff, Lay/Skilling, DeLay and Duke. What's strange is Bush released classified national security info about the CIA case were was the protection there? I guess this Administration uses the word national security to cover up criminal acts and crimes.
SPB thanks for the info. Now I understand how the little soldier got caught in the lies. Nice move Fitz. The time table was interesting as to when the memory loss came and went. I guess those secret visites to the White House after Libby's indictment didn't pay off.
How the big GOP guys are after Gonzales just because he made a mistake and doesn't know much about constitutional law. Look he's learning on the job like the rest of Bush's appointees. Noticed Frist aka Dr. Quack is so funny he is backing the President as he will no longer be a Senator. Nice way to go out as a Bush supporter. Oh I thought of something this weekend " the candidates for politicial office this year look more like a police line up of criminals to be identified".
You know, I think "they" are doing stuff like this to scare people from going to sites that will tell the truth. If you put the news out that that you are watching a person thought's on line then you scare them into only looking at what you want them to see.
UUUUGG!
"U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and FBI Director Robert Mueller on Friday urged telecommunications officials to record their customers' Internet activities, CNET News.com has learned.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/
In a private meeting with industry representatives, Gonzales, Mueller and other senior members of the Justice Department said Internet service providers should retain subscriber information and network data for two years, according to two sources familiar with the discussion who spoke on condition of anonymity."
Just one method here Jan...below is part of some vast and complex web searching techniques being used now...
Magic Lantern is a keystroke logging program developed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Magic Lantern was first reported in a column by Bob Sullivan of MSNBC on 20 November 2001 [1], also by Ted Birdis of the Associated Press (Ted Birdis, Washington Post, 11/22/01 "FBI Develops Eavesdropping Tools").
Unlike previous keystroke logger programs used by the FBI, Magic Lantern can reportedly be installed remotely, via an e-mail attachment or "by exploiting common operating system vulnerabilities". It has been variously described as a virus and a Trojan horse. It is not known how the program might store or communicate the recorded keystrokes.
In response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed in 2000 by the Electronic Privacy Information Center, the FBI released a series of unclassified documents relating to Carnivore, which included the "Enhanced Carnivore Project Plan". Sullivan's confidential source said that redacted portions of that document mention "Cyber Knight",
". . . a database that sorts and matches data gathered using various Carnivore-like methods from e-mail, chat rooms, instant messages, and Internet phone calls. It also matches files with captured encryption keys."
Spokesmen for the FBI soon confirmed the existence of a program called Magic Lantern, denied that it had been deployed, and declined to comment further. [2]
The public disclosure of the existence of Magic Lantern sparked a debate as to whether anti-virus companies could or should detect the FBI's keystroke logger. Birdis reported that at least some anti-virus companies, including Network Associates, maker of McAfee anti-virus products, had contacted the FBI following the press reports about Magic Lantern, to ensure its anti-virus software would not detect the program. [3] Network Associates issued a statement denying this kind of cooperation with U.S. legal authorities within a week, fueling speculation as to which anti-virus products might or might not detect government trojans. [4]
I just saw something funny. Someone gave pictures of Blair/Bush mouthing the song My endless love by Lional Richi and Diana Ross. It fit their relationship as a true brokeback mountian moment. Grandmanuk good to hear from you and I had a great day Peaches called after they had a moment of prayer to all our troops. The guys out in Afgan know all the news that we know can't say anymore now.
Over at BFA we have a troll that's been an albatross around that wonderful space since 2002. Compared to him you are a rank amatuer with no grasp of reality.
The Commander in Chief cannot ust the military as he wishes. (Duh)
Congress gave bush authority to use force Only after he went to the UN for the second resolution. He got the authority and blew off the UN. (Duh)
Actually I used to have a much nicer voice than I do now. Ya see after 9/11 we were all desperate to return to normal here in NYC. So two weeks after the attacks I went back into the subway to bring a little comfort to those who were braving the toxic somke that permeated the underground from Times Square to Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.
I spent over 100 hours between Thanksgiving and Christmas in the stations closest to Ground Zero, doing a home grown version of a USO show.
Imagine the feeling of dozens of people singing "Silent Night" at Wall Street, and I was there, with my guitar.
So 5 years later my voice ain't what it used to be, but I still sing better than Bob Dylan. I can live with that.
But you've insulted one of the walking dead of 9/11 and it just makes you look small.
As for my day job, For the past 21 years I've been a fulltime caregiver to my severely disabled wife. I just go to the subway to relieve what has been called "Caregiver Burnout." It's just my way of screaming at the world.
The Commander in Chief cannot ust the military as he wishes. (Duh)
Just imagine every leader in every country would just pick another country and head out for war...declaring they could do so just because it's there right to command the military forces...Madness at it's best
I've long ago vowed that I'm not taking this right wing crapola any more. They mistake bluster for fact and sell their faith to the same moneychangers that Jesus chased from the Temple.
Newsweek: FBI Looking at Hunter, DeLay By Paul Kiel - May 28, 2006, 3:38 PM
"Newsweek reports that the FBI is investigating Wilkes' ties to Reps. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) and Tom DeLay (R-TX): According to published reports and congressional and law-enforcement sources who did not want to be identified discussing a sensitive investigation, the Feds are also reviewing Wilkes's ties to other powerful House leaders. Former GOP majority leader Tom DeLay, Armed Services Committee chairman Duncan Hunter and Appropriations Committee chairman Jerry Lewis all reportedly had dealings with Wilkes. None has been accused of any wrongdoing; a spokesman for Lewis said the congressman had not seen Wilkes for 10 years. Hunter's spokesman said his boss urged the Pentagon to ignore congressional pressure on contracting, and DeLay's lawyer had no immediate comment."
More ties connected to Brent "Boom shaka laka" Wilkes and Duke “Naughty” Cunningham.
Subway,
Thanks for sharing about yourself.. Our pest blogger who is berating you is just working hard for the GOP graft Koolaid money! I always appreciate your songs. You are awesome!
Yes, The Subway Serenade, don't let him get to you. Your story really moved me. I love that you went back to sing when people really needed it -so sorry it hurt your voice- I would never have known :)
The White House Commission on Remembrance is an independent government agency whose missions include: Promoting the spirit of unity and remembrance through observance of The National Moment of Remembrance at 3 PM local time on Memorial Day; Ensuring the nation remembers the sacrifices of America's fallen from the Revolutionary War to the present; Recognizing those who served and those who continue to serve our great nation and reminding all Americans of their common heritage.
http://www.remember.gov/
Make sure that you take a moment of silence at that time in honoe of the soldiers and vets....
Thanks for the encouragment. One thing that attracted me to the candidacy of Howard Dean in 2002 was his conclusion early on that one person can make a difference.
My post 9/11 performances in 2001 were all given with the intensity of a one man Broadway Show.
Red Line Blues was the Song of the Year for 2002, and I had to laugh at all those 9/11 chart toppers from folks who never knew my audience.
Perhaps you misunderstood. Al didn't upset me in the least. At BFA we got a guy named Rocket, who is by far the BEST troll on the world wide web.
Al is a featherweight, as is his pResident, The Commander 'N Thief.
I appeciate that he allowed me to open up to my friends here, but I really need to warn him that if he's gonna come here with talking points, my doctors have told me that I'm Bullsh@t Intolerant, and I'll add that I'm very protective of my friend.
Come here with bluster and I'll direct you to the little boy's room down the hall.
I watched a video online in the wee hours last night by Greg Palast...concerning the Bush family, he said he interviewed people concerning W.'s time in the Texas Guard and Vietnam. At the Wall, I believe he said there are 19 names with the same birthdate as G.W. Bush that did serve, did not jump over others and get to serve in the Texas Air Guard (scoring 25 out of 100 on his pilot's test -think about this one). Very interesting video...went into his business dealings, the voting rolls in Florida, good ole boys in Texas, lobbyists and public service.
Prayers to all veterans but most of all to the Vietnam soldiers born on July 6, 1946 that didn't come home. Also, thank you to all that do serve, their families, and all public servants that know the true meaning of public service...courage and humility. I thank you.
Serenade, even with my amateur status I can still hang with you. One thing I do have is tenacity and facts on my side. Sounds like you have had a hard time of it, but if you have been caring for your wife that long then it isn't Bush's fault.
Sounds to me that you are just soured on the world and are very much filled with hate like a lot of other bloggers here. It must be hell for you waking up every morning to your dismal existence.
To everyone else that may have missed it, yes I am a Vet from a family of Vets. I am a patriot and I am not easily dismissed.
Hilariously funny book - about the Religious Rapture nuts that are trying to take over the country. It blends truth with humor (otherwise it would be impossible to read).
If you really HATE the Bushco's you'll love this book. It's a hardback (I would have paid twice as much to support them) but very quick to read and hits the nail on the head.
Wait for the Rapture people...when it doesn't come, who knows what will happen next???
First communication is by snail mail - I send "holiday" cards - I put a little note in with my email...presto - IMMEDIATE response.
These people are starved for NORMAL. They live in a surreal world that none of us would ever wish for our family or our children. They are alone, they are frightened, they are being "used".
But they LOVE to email, write, receive packages...anything!
The PO now has "flat rate" boxes where you can send to an FPO, APO address for $8 - up to about 90 pounds! I have sent a ton of stuff... near as I can tell, the people in this country are shipping everything we own to Iraq and Afghanistan for our boys...some of whom are living under NETS in Afghanistan.
Fact #4 --- When Bill Clinton took office the Democrats controlled all 3 branches of government. When he left office all 3 branches were controlled by Republicans.
Serenade, Fact #5 -- Bush managed to get even Democrats such as Hillary and Kerry to vote for authorization to go to war with Iraq. At the time they all thought the Intelligence about WMD was correct. Now they all have selective amnesia including you.
Jefferson Probe Includes Other Suspected Schemes FBI Is Said to Be Looking for a Pattern By Allan Lengel Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, May 28, 2006; A04 The FBI is focusing on at least eight different suspected bribery schemes as part of its corruption probe of Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La.), according to a federal affidavit and sources familiar with the investigation. A key part of the FBI probe has centered around Jefferson's dealings with a Louisville high-tech company, iGate Inc., that was marketing broadband technology for the Internet and cable television in Africa. But an affidavit used in last weekend's controversial search of Jefferson's Capitol Hill office stated that authorities are looking at "at least seven other" bribery schemes in which Jefferson "sought things of value in return for his performance of official acts." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/27/AR2006052700960_pf.html
2. From Thinkprogress.org:
"The Boston Globe reports David Addington, i.e. “Cheney’s guy,” screens legislation before it reaches Bush’s desk in an effort to remove any limits it might place on presidential powers. Addington is the architect of the “signing statements” that Bush has used to assert his right to ignore laws passed by Congress."
And more on this on Friedoglake. Christy does an excellent job on her article. Here is her thoughts about Cheney:
From Firedoglake; A Constitutional Crisis of Cheney’s Making? By Christy Hardin Smith
"I’d say that this is high time for some much-needed Congressional oversight, but I’m not holding my breath that the Rubber Stamp Republican Congress gives a rats ass that it has traded in its mandate and Constitutional duties for a few shiny baubles and a pat on the head from Dick Cheney. Shame on all of them."
I found that Boston Globe article about Addington routinely reviewing pieces of legislation searching for provisions that would infringe on presidential power very interesting.
Included with this article is a graph that shows how many provisions have been challenged per Presdient. It's very telling about this administration's greedy grab for executive power which has pretty much been unprecedented at this level.
In 5.5 years Bush has challenged more than 750 provisions in bills. In 8 years, Bill Clinton challenged 140 provisions. In 4 years, GWH Bush challenged 230 provisions. In 8 years, Reagan challenged 95.
It's about time ChimpCongress quit rolling over for these guys...
To all of our soldiers, their families and to all of the veterans of past wars...Thank you for your service and may God bless you.
Spent some time out at Arlington Cemetary and the Iwo Jima Memorial this weekend. Spent a lot of time thinking about those that have sacrificed for our country and about all of the "excesses" we see in the USA today. We have an excess of executive power. Not only is this dangerous right now, due to the fact that unchecked power has led to (and continues to lead to) abuses by Bush, Cheney and their subordinates, but it will be dangerous even after Bush and Cheney are gone, whether that happens in 2009 or before. This is because excessive swings in one direction usually lead to excessive swings in the other direction. As a result our country suffers.
Bush's excessive rhetoric smf miduse of intelligence data in stirring the country up to pursue Iraq made everyone look bad, not only Bush and his subordinates/allies, but also those who were politically afraid to show some spine. Now, Bush has no credibility either at home or abroad, despite the fact that we face a very dangerous and difficult situation with Iran. And our intelligence gathering ability is in the crapper, thanks in part to the way George W has treated the CIA. As a result our country suffers.
Bush's excessive use of power to conduct warrantless electronic surveillance will wreak havoc in the future. Convictions will be overturned by the courts. The ability to conduct legitimate electronic surveillance will be hampered once all the crap that is going on now rises to the forefront of people's consciousness and they insist on strong limits on electronic surveillance.
I get sick to my stomach when I think the many abuses of the public trust that have occurred under the watch of (and in many cases with the blessing of) George W. Bush.
May God bless all of our veterans and active soldiers as well as the souls of those who paid the ultimate price for this country.
Serenade, Fact #10 --- George Bush is still President and is a Veteran by the way. Cheney is still VP and Libby still hasn't been convicted of any crime.
Bill Clinton is a real Draft Dodger by design which a lot of people conveniently forget.
"Clinton has long acknowledged his opposition to the Vietnam war. As a Rhodes scholar in England, he helped organize an anti - war protest in November of 1969. But he has also said that it was his doubts about the morality of the war and the Selective Service system that led him to abandon the ROTC idea and to subject himself to a draft lottery. Only the luck of the draw - a high lottery number - kept him out. One of his friends from his Oxford days strongly backs Clinton's story."
"........the letter is consistent with everything I've been saying for the last 13 years, since I was first asked about this in late 1978. I was in the draft before the lottery came in. I gave up the deferment. I got a high lottery number and I wasn't called. That's what the records reflect. A Republican member of my draft board was given an affidavit in the last couple of days saying that I got no special treatment and nothing in that letter changes that, although it is a true reflection of the deep and conflicted feelings of a just - turned - 23 - year - old young man. I felt that at the time."
Family and friends with political influence kept Bill Clinton out of the draft after his graduation from Georgetown University. His uncle, Raymond Clinton, in 1968 personally contacted Senator Fulbright, William Armstrong (Chairman of the Hot Springs draft board) and Lt. Commander Tice Ellis, Jr. (Commanding Officer of the local Naval Reserve unit) to obtain a slot for Bill in the Naval Reserve. A slot was especially created for Bill when no existing reserve slots were open at his local reserve unit.
Bill Clinton, choosing not to follow through, failed to show up at the reserve unit for his interview and physical. Raymond Clinton later informed Lt. Com. Ellis that Bill would not be joining the reserves and that everything has been taken care of.
Robert Corrado a former member of the Hot Springs draft board in 1968 recalled the chairman of the three man draft board held back Clinton's file with the explanation that we have to give him time to go to Oxford. Corrado further stated that Armstrong complained about an aid from Senator Fulbright's office urging him and his fellow board members to give every consideration to keep Clinton out of the draft. Clinton's draft file was routinely held back from consideration by the full board for the remainder of the year.
Bill was AWOL from showing up at the Reserve Unit.
He and Quayle, DeLay explained to the assembled media in New Orleans, were victims of an unusual phenomenon back in the days of the undeclared Southeast Asian war.
So many minority youths had volunteered for the well-paying military positions to escape poverty and the ghetto that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself.
Satisfied with the pronouncement, which dumbfounded more than a few of his listeners who had lived the sixties, DeLay marched off to the convention
As Entered in Congressional Record (Page: H5550) 7/30/93
Dear Col. Holmes,
I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and ought to say.
First, I want to thank you, not only for saving me from the draft, but for being so kind to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been. One thing that made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable to me was my high regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that the admiration might not have been mutual had you known a little more about me, about my political beliefs and activities. At least you might have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC.
When the draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting against, and that is why I contacted you. ROTC was the one way in which I could possibly, but not positively, avoid both Vietnam and the resistance.
Bush chose to do honorable service in the National Guard flying fighter jets, which takes a pair by the way. Clinton chose to lie his way into ROTC service but when it came time to fulfill that commitment he couldn't even do that. He chose to leave the people that had gone to bat for him flapping in the wind.
Clinton was elected twice and there was barely a whimper from the Left as to his disgraceful history of draft dodging yet the same folks that carried the water for Clinton are aghast at honorable service by Bush. Hypocrisy comes to mind.
Any man or woman that will strap himself into the seat of a fighter jet is no coward and the shallow words of the biased won't change that. It is easy for the unbiased to see who is the real coward. Clinton who went AWOL from the ROTC or Bush who flew fighter jets. Hyperbole will not change that.
Very good point about Bush's abuse of warrantless electronic surveillance wreaking havoc in the future.
don de drain said: "Convictions will be overturned by the courts. The ability to conduct legitimate electronic surveillance will be hampered once all the crap that is going on now rises to the forefront of people's consciousness and they insist on strong limits on electronic surveillance."
On another topic: What sickens me most about the Bush & Cheney regime's BS "on serving one's country" is not only that Cheney had 5 deferrments and Bush had daddy fix his records, is that they never once spoke up about the slime that the Swift Boats put out about Kerry who actually served our country in war.
And how they maliciously slandered John McCain (war veteran) and his family in the 2000 elections.
Then there are the lies they told the American people to take us to war in Iraq -- that is criminal! Slime & crime that's their MO...
If everyone were draft dodgers we would be speaking German today or possibly Russian. Just because you don't fight back doesn't mean you don't get attacked.
I'm not talking WWII. I'm talking 2006. Humanity should now have evolved to the point where we do not carry arms, when we have learnt to have sanctity for life, all life forms, where we take care of each other and Mother Earth and not go down the path to self-destruction. Think PEACE Al! D
January 19, 2001 Web posted at: 5:06 p.m. EST (2206 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton will leave office free of the prospect of criminal charges after he admitted Friday that he knowingly gave misleading testimony about his affair with Monica Lewinsky in a 1998 lawsuit.
Under an agreement with Independent Counsel Robert Ray, Clinton's law license will be suspended for five years and he will pay a $25,000 fine to Arkansas bar officials. He also gave up any claim to repayment of his legal fees in the matter. In return, Ray will end the 7-year-old Whitewater probe that has shadowed most of Clinton's two terms.
"I tried to walk a fine line between acting lawfully and testifying falsely, but I now recognize that I did not fully accomplish this goal and am certain my responses to questions about Ms. Lewinsky were false," Clinton said in a written statement released Friday by the White House.
If it can't be proven then make up documents like Dan Rather did. I was in Vietnam and I stayed drunk as much as possible. Soldiers do a lot of drinking.
Much like Mr. Fitzgerald is doing now. He will spend years trying to convict on purjury charges but the original crime of outing a CIA agent was a non starter.
I am certain that after the dust of centuries has passed over our cities, we, too, will be remembered not for victories or defeats in battle or in politics, but for our contribution to the human spirit.
~John Fitzgerald Kennedy~
Fact is the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is unecessary and any soldier fighting over there isn't doing it for freedom or democracy but for money which was better spend in education and fighting poverty!
Our servicemen and women deserve better than being kept in a country that has turned into Dante's Inferno. Bring them all home. Don't leave them there because George the Younger wants to save face.
As for this new "law" that Bush signed into being about "no protestors allowed at military funerals", no protestors should be allowed an *anyone's* funeral. Let the families and friends of the deceased have their hour or two of grieving, no matter what the person died of, or for. Protest elsewhere. Have the respect and responsibility grown-ups are supposed to have.
In small towns throughout America there’s a new flurry of concerned activity from grassroots organizers of a most un-likely type. It might even be fair to say that this latest, most determined and focused group is nothing at all like the socialists, hippies, yippies, and liberal rebels from our country’s last major radical movement.
Even if we consider that many of these worried dissenters are the exact same age as protestors from the “hippie generation,“ it is still highly doubtful that many in this new group had anything to do with the 60’s and 70’s radical “underground” at all.
As a matter of fact, it’s safe to say that those now strategically organizing with mighty big plans are quite possibly the very last people you’d ever think would make waves or step out over the line. All about service to country, this new bunch of activists are actually quite level-headed, law-abiding citizens.
After all, what else would you expect from those who trained and served with the US military?
Yes, this new group consists primarily of veterans of foreign wars. In conversations with these men and women, they come across as deeply caring about what is happening to America as they did back when they enlisted (or were drafted). Quite ready then to risk life and limb fighting to defend their country, the same is still true of these vets today.
With such a dedicated bunch, it should therefore come as no surprise that many of our modern day vets “in the know” are both alarmed - and far less than charmed - to realize that what has been perpetually termed by Washington as a “war on terror” is actually a psychological operation of manufactured fear being waged against our own citizens.
There is currently cause for serious concern as veterans have either begun to suspect (or are already aware) that the “war on terror” has been orchestrated by some in power on purpose specifically to mislead US citizens into believing in a need to wage wars. Yes, you read that right. It is believed that the “war on terror” that began effectively on September 11 was orchestrated by some in power now within our own government.
Is it any wonder that a growing number of former military men and women are taking issue - and action - around this? For the purposes of keeping this family-rated, suffice it to say that an increasing number of veterans are pretty darn ticked. And, well, that’s putting it mildly.
In Internet discussion groups and veterans’ meetings from coast to coast, ex-military men and women from all political camps - conservatives, progressives, libertarians, and constitutionalists among them - are becoming increasingly aware of many things about their former employer, the US federal government, that, shall we say, more than concerns them.
Now I don’t know about you, but whenever I think of veterans, I have this stereotype in my head dating back circa the 1960’s of clean-shaven older guys, hair neatly slicked back, fake poppies sticking out of the pockets of their white short- sleeved buttoned shirts, waving American flags with pride at the annual Memorial Day parade.
When I was a kid, these men hung out in the VFW hall and seemed mighty proud to have fought some far-off enemy over there in order to keep their families and communities safe from harm back home. Those veterans, from wars that seem like ancient history to us now, held their heads high as they proudly relayed stories about defeating whichever evil-doing US enemy they were being asked to fight at that particular moment in time.
It was always with great conviction that they steadfastly defended their Commander In Chief as being absolutely justified in sending them across some sea to put them directly in harm’s way to wage some war upon some bad guys somewhere …and always for some great, noble, and necessary cause of one kind or another.
So what’s with the deal with the veterans of today? Why can’t they just behave like the vets of yesterday who saluted the flag and carried it proudly (right side up) while marching in home town parades? Why don’t you hear ex-soldiers now sitting around bragging about war stories that include gruesome tales of killing some foreign “enemy,” just like the vets of yesteryear?
Seems that a whole lot’s changed in the past forty years. It’s almost as if the average military soldier who served in the second “great” war or in Korea has gone the way of some prehistoric dinosaur. US veterans who served in Vietnam, in two wars on Iraq, and one on Afghanistan - are not our grandfathers’ vets.
What’s the big difference, between vets back then and the veterans of today? It appears to be a simple matter of what today’s vets know compared to what yesterday’s American war heroes did not.
Generally speaking, today’s veterans are more likely than ever to be plugged in to what’s actually going on across the sea. In real time, today’s ex-soldiers are able to read embedded reporters’ and current soldiers’ blogs from occupied war zones and the alternative (“truth”) media. With the advance in technology that allow users to be immersed in the very heat of battle, today’s vets have the advantage over their grandfathers as they don’t have to depend on getting their war news from patriotic short news reels that appear before Saturday afternoon matinees at the movie theatres downtown.
In addition to being connected to the Net, most modern day veterans don’t rely on the mainstream media for their news, either. Rather than being fed optimistically-slanted victories in the so-called “war on terror,” veterans in the know are smarter than that. These men and women are not easily fooled by glorified “wins” in some glamorized, noble version of war spun for them by the controlled US mainstream media on behalf of the mega-billion dollar US “defense” contractors.
No, today’s vets have a clue, and they read all the news that the mainstream media does not see fit to print. As a result of receiving more accurate information, America’s veterans are often beyond outraged to learn that the government they trusted, having risked life and limb to protect, has been waging war after war based on what they increasingly recognize as more than just a few un-truths.
Many of today’s vets are reporting that all they’ve been told by the mainstream media and from federal government employees about September 11 is simply not true. And a growing number of ex-military men and women are in fact bold enough to make their case, right out loud in public, as to why they believe that 9/11 was a military false flag operation orchestrated and carried out by some within our very own government.
Not surprisingly, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork talking about 9/11 as an inside job. While it might have been true a couple of years back that the widely held public perception was that only lunatic “conspiracy theorists” made such claims, all one has to do is surf the Internet for several hours in order to discover a multitude of reasons that prove that what America has been told repeatedly about September 11 is not true.
Wait. Did I just say several hours of searching? A Google search just performed by entering the words: “9/11 was an inside job” yielded 106,000 “hits” in .26 seconds. Imagine how much information could be uncovered in several hours?
Chances are by now you’ve either seen or heard about Charlie Sheen’s recent appearance on CNN in which he questioned the government’s official 9/11 story. But in all candor, as bold and brave as Sheen may be, his reputation as notorious Hollywood bad-boy just doesn’t cut the mustard with many flag-waving die-hards intent on hanging on to the belief that we have only a few more mountains left to go before we find that elusive terrorist mastermind hiding deep inside some far-off, remote, foreign cave.
Admittedly, it’s not too difficult a task for the mainstream media to discount a Tinsel Town ex-druggie and prostitute-frequenter who talks about controlled demolitions on CNN. The same can’t as easily be said, however, about honored and decorated military veterans who question the official 9/11 story such as Robert Bowman, Ph.D., Lt. Col., USAF (Ret.) , George Nelson, Colonel, USAF (ret.) and Donn de Grand-Pre, Colonel, US Army (ret.).
So while it’s relatively easy for the sold-out media to trash and belittle movie star celebrities as non-credible, amoral, and eccentric “conspiracy nuts,” it’s something else altogether when patriotic veterans who served our country honorably are willing to put their reputations on the line and stand up publicly and fearlessly against their former federal employer.
For this reason alone it would seem to be nearly impossible not to give at least some credence to an honored ex-military veteran when he speaks up openly and says the previously un-thinkable…that it appears that some in our very own government not only knew that the attacks of September 11 were going to happen, but that some in our government were actually behind the attacks that were then used as justification to enter into not one - but two wars.
No wonder why vets are now organizing and screaming “Mayday, Mayday!” And if you really think about it, could there possibly be any better reason to fly our American flags upside down? When unquestionably the most patriotic of all citizens, who literally put their lives on the line to come to the aid of their government, go so far as to say that their beloved nation was attacked from within in the ultimate psychological warfare operation, is this not reason to sound the alarm loudly enough for the rest of the world to hear?
It’s no wonder these veterans are rapidly mobilizing like never before! One new group of veterans that’s recently formed is called Veterans for 9/11 Truth. Initially, before the group was even formed, Veteran and founding member Alfons Olszewski created a radio station, Grassroots InfoMedia at Live 365 ( http://www.live365.com/stations/alfonslof ) in order to get out the truth about 9/11.
A humble man, Alfons, is emphatic that he does not wish to be placed in the limelight. Even though he is the webmaster, radio show host, and primary founder of the group, he is far more comfortable sharing the credit of the group’s inception with the combined efforts of other concerned vets such as Matt, Stevan, and Titus, who helped get the group up and going.
These veterans fully realize that they are just a few of countless “unknown soldiers” who, knowing firsthand about military operations, watched in open-mouthed, knowing horror the morning of September 11 as no jet fighters ever came close to intercepting four reportedly “hijacked” commercial jet airliners.
Unlike the vastly unaware general public, our former (and, in all likelihood, current) military personnel knew that there was more than plenty of time to stop all four attacks… had that actually been something that our administration wished to have happen.
These vets, too, many with technical backgrounds, watched with a definite advantage as the twin towers and later, WTC Building 7, (the building that leaseholder Larry Silverstein directed to “pull it” despite the fact that it was never hit by a plane) rapidly descended at a virtual free-fall speed straight down into their own footprints the very same way that controlled demolitions take place with the assistance of explosives pre-planted on an earlier date.
While it is true that these veterans are deeply distressed that our nation’s government appears to have been taken over by those who do not have the best interests of the American people in mind, they’re not the only ones to suspect insider foul play.
Americans in general seem to doubt the official story and want more answers, too. A recent Zogby poll, in fact, found that 45% think "Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success.”
This is indeed cause for concern. Nearly one-half of Americans believe that our own government either allowed to happen or helped to make happen the worst attack in our nation’s history. If we are not seriously concerned for the future safety of our fellow citizens with the very real possibility of a future attack, then we are not paying close enough attention.
It is any wonder then that veterans are crying “Mayday, Mayday,” as one would be expected to shout from the rooftops when one’s beloved country is under attack? As the mission statement for the Veterans for 9/11 Truth group ( http://www.V911T.org ) states in no uncertain terms:
We have chosen to display the United States Flag with the union down as a signal of the dire distress this Nation is experiencing. Displaying the flag in this manner is not disrespectful to, or a desecration of, the flag. It is lawful to display the flag in this manner in times of distress. Ours is truly a Nation in distress. Our ultimate mission is to strive for and achieve the day when we can in good conscience again display the flag with the union up. Because then, and only then, will we know that we are rid of the forces that have placed this Nation and the world in such dire distress.
US Veterans of foreign wars are sending out a national distress signal because they believe that the government of the nation they love has been hijacked. Their goals include outreach to the general public to inform them why the official story about September 11 is not true, as well demanding a criminal trial for the actual perpetrators of the mass murders that occurred in Manhattan, at the Pentagon, and in Shanksville, PA.
It is hoped that, veteran or not, every American will check out what veterans are saying about getting behind the truth behind 9/11 - once and for all. Whether you are a veteran, on active military duty, or are interested in becoming a civilian “auxiliary” supporter, to learn more about how to join up and report for duty, visit http://www.v911t.org .
And for those among us who are civilians? Just because we have not signed up for military duty does not mean that we are absolved of the responsibility to come to the aid of our nation during national times of crisis. The role of each individual citizen was made quite clear, in fact, in the Declaration of Independence which gives clear instruction in what to do in cases such as the one in which we find ourselves faced:
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
Veterans throughout America are voluntarily springing back into service out of love for their country. If you know a veteran, please pass this information along to them. If you do not know any veterans, please pass this along to others who may.
Time is of the essence. We have been hearing from those in federal government since September 11 that it is not a question of whether or not another “terrorist” attack will occur - but a question of when. If we are to suspect that some inside our government may indeed be in some way responsible for the attacks, then it would not be too far a stretch to wonder if America is perhaps overdue for another such operation to justify a reason for the next invasion - such as one on Iran, Syria, or any other nation our political leaders would like to invade and occupy.
Our veterans already went above and beyond the call of duty in service to their country when they went overseas to fight in a US-staged war. The least that the rest of us can do is support them in furthering public education around 9/11, and demanding that the real perpetrators - the actual criminals who committed these crimes - be brought to justice and placed behind bars where they can no longer do any more harm to anyone else.
And if, by chance you are reading this but are just not sure what to believe concerning September 11 and you want to check this out in greater detail for yourself? The informational links provided at http://www.V911T.org is a great place to start.
In the words of Marian Wright Edelman, “A lot of people are waiting for Martin Luther King or Mahatma Gandhi to come back -- but they are gone. We are it. It is up to us. It is up to you.”
Hi guys hope everyone is safe and healthy this memorial day. I read Jason's article and our former Govenor Gray Davis should be happy the truth is out about the lies from Cheney/Bush. Let's wait and see how Bush helps Kenny Boy. I rented two video's this weekend one was about Fitz ya it was cool it was so much like him I laughed. The other was weird and so much like today it was like looking into a mirror. You only had to change one word to make it current news. Change Communism to Terrorism and you'd have today's news. That movie is Good Nigh Good Luck. I hope we have a journalist who has the guts to stand up for truth and honesty like Edward R. Murrow. You know your old when you can relate to black/white TV. Grandmaunk you have to rent that movie it is like history repeating itself. Oh and subway serenade I heard your music your great and keep doing what you're doing music to the medicine to the soul and you are that medicine. As for who served our country and who didn't. Let's leave that to the indiviual person him/her self. Most Americans today haven't served because we don't have a draft. But remember every American has had a family member past or present who has served our country. Those who had the chance but didn't live with that we don't have to remind them. We're still one nation under God aren't we.
Do these words remind you of anyone?Just came back from a Memorial Service at an American Legion Hall-very sobering.The loudest of the loud for this man and his policies -at the start of this Fiasco-now see they supported him on blind faith.Any way here is part of the list--probably 500 more words in it--but you get the idea.
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance - Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates* - Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation - Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify - Most number of witnesses to die suddenly - First president sued for sexual harassment. - First president accused of rape. - First first lady to come under criminal investigation - Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case - First president to establish a legal defense fund. - First president to be held in contempt of court - Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions - Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad - First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
* According to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate. A reader computes that there was a total of 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned. A key difference between the Clinton story and earlier ones was the number of criminals with whom he was associated before entering the White House.
Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.
Bill Kennedy 116 Harold Ickes 148 Ricki Seidman 160 Bruce Lindsey 161 Bill Burton 191 Mark Gearan 221 Mack McLarty 233 Neil Egglseston 250 Hillary Clinton 250 John Podesta 264 Jennifer O'Connor 343 Dwight Holton 348 Patsy Thomasson 420 Jeff Eller 697
FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton's Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times.
Bush has done no such thing. He is finally the man who decided to participate in a war that had been waged against us even under Clinton. The first Trade Center bombing, the Cole attack and numerous other assaults on US interest went unanswered by Clinton. Each one enbolding the Terrorist to try bigger and more horrific attacks such as occured on 9/11. Bush is the man who said enough is enough. You don't attack US soil and go unpunished.
If you think pulling out of Iraq and promising to play nice will stop further Terrorist attacks then you definitely need your head examined. Or should we just tolerate a few thousand deaths here and there every 6 months or so?
I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the country's most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all ranks from second Lieutenant to Major General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.
Thus I helped make Mexico, and especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the raping of half-a-dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers and Co. in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras "right" for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, and promotion. Looking back on it, I feel that I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate a racket in three city districts. The Marines operated on three continents.
Major General Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 - June 21, 1940) was at the time of his death the most decorated U.S. Marine in history. He was twice the recipient of the Medal of Honor, one of only nineteen to be so honored.
Al still equates the war on terror to Iraq. Seems he swallowed the Bush bait hook line sinker so deep that he's gut hooked and will never get beyond that like many others vets are doing now.
No indictment for Rove but jury still out By WILLIAM D. McTAVISH Contributing Editor Capitol Hill Blue May 28, 2006, 08:00 Email this article
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Contrary to some published reports, Presidential advisor Karl Rove was not indicted two weeks ago by the federal grand jury investigating the leak of a covert CIA operative's name but he remains a focus of special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, sources close to the investigation say.
"No indictment, sealed or otherwise, has yet been issued against Mr. Rove," says an investigator working on the case. "But," he adds, "that doesn't mean one isn't in the works if Fitz (special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald) can make his case."
What I do know is we haven't been attacked on US soil since 9/11 and we are killing a lot of Al Qaeda in Iraq. The terrorist are making a stand in Iraq. I'd rather fight them there than here. I know those with their heads in the sand think if we just play nice they will go away, but it just doesn't work like that. We were perceived as weak under Clinton. Attack after attack with no retaliation. That just made them bolder and we wind up with an attack like 9/11. I think Bush and team have done a good job keeping this country safe since 9/11 and they deserve some credit.
Two Americans; One is that we are living the best ever. We have now lived the American dream with our leadership. No more policialy crimes or wars or dept. all our elected leaders are honest and there is no crime. During the Clinton years we live in horror of all the corruption of our elected officials who went to jail. Abramoff, Lay/Skilling and Duke all Clinton's doing. That spying on American breaking all our constitutional laws. Selling our ports. Invading countries and torture of prisoners. Clinton working hand and hand with big business to high gas profits. Every country hating America's policies. If only we had an honest President who could clean up this mess. Clinton sends our kids to war based on lies yet he got 5 deferments or skipped out while drunk in order not to go to a real war. Clinton's administration leaked CIA's name and wants immigrates to be deported with their children. Clinton is the most corrupt President in the history of this country. He should be impeached for teason and his Administration should be in jail.
Second America: Bush has made this a better country with the help of our honest GOP. No backdoor dealing with this President he's up front and honest with Americans. We're living the American dream and dept free. Our children will live this dream too. No wars, no crime and finally all the GOP are honest and do the job they were sent to do. If only we had Bush in office during the Katrina storm none of the people would have had to suffer he would have helped save everybody. If only we had Bush as our President 5 years ago we would be better off today. Now Bush has to clean up that mess that Clinton made. Bush has restore our respect around the world. Clinton worked for Satan Bush works for God. We believe and trust our current President it's to bad we can't have him as President forever. Just think of our great our country would be with all GOP running our country lead by George W. Bush. Bush is more knowledgable and honest then Bill Clinton. Bush got medials of honor for his bravery and saving his felllow soldiers during the war. Dick Cheney served 5 times and has some many blue hearts to show he is a true American hero. Rummy served from the Nixon area to present and his so many medials it could full a room. Connie Rice served in the military and knows what it takes to run a military defense she is one of the few females who risk her life in combat for our country. Karl Rove has served the military and even with injury went back in to stay with his fellow soldiers. Libby stands tall as a true soldier one that all could use as an example of what to become. We will now be leaving Disney land folks and the story you just read is fiction. I just hope it helps those who choose to forget reality.
Karl Rove was born December 25, 1950, in Denver, Colorado.
In high school in Utah, was known for being argumentative with teachers and students, for using "vulgar and suggestive language" with female peers, and was accused of stealing money from other students' lockers on more than one occasion. Often ran for school office; his pattern was to quietly slander his opponents with allegations of sexual deviancy, and then deny that he had done so. Interestingly, at some point a report on Rove was purportedly generated by a school district psychiatrist; if true, this would indicate that his behavior was such that it had risen to the level of being noticed by those in authority.
The Senate Judiciary hearings on the release on classified FBI files to the Clinton Whitehouse began in Congress today. Margaret Warner talks with two members of that committee, Senator Joe Biden, (D) Delaware, and Senator Charles Grassley, (R) Iowa. Kwame Holman leads off with a background report.
The Senate Judiciary Committee brought in five former White House staffers from the Reagan and Bush administrations, staffers whose confidential FBI files were obtained by the White House Security Office overseen by Craig Livingstone.
Reporters for major news organizations have worked for the past two weeks trying to confirm existence of an indictment but have come up empty.
"That's no surprise," says a Justice Department source that has proven reliable in the past. "You can't find an indictment that doesn't exist."
But multiple sources say Rove remains a central figure in Fitzgerald's investigation and could still be indicted. Some suggest the prosecutor is using the threat of an indictment to force to testify against former Vice Presidential Chief of Staff Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who has been indicted, and others, including Vice President Dick Cheney.
In January 1996, a long sought-after copy of billing records from the Rose Law Finn were identified and turned over to prosecutors by Carolyn Huber, a White House assistant to Hillary Rodham Clinton. Ms. Huber, herself a former Rose Law Firm employee, recognized the records and realized that they had been among papers that she had removed six months earlier from the First Lady's book room on the third floor of the White House.
The mysterious appearance of the billing records, which had been the specific subject of various investigative subpoenas for two years, sparked intense interest about how they surfaced and where they had been. Shortly after the discovery of the records, Hillary Clinton made history -- she became the only First Lady ever called to testify before a Grand Jury inquiry.
Domestic Intelligence Harper's Weekly, March 7, 1868
IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT JOHNSON
On Friday, February 21, President Johnson transmitted to both Houses of Congress a message announcing that he had removed Secretary of War Stanton, and had appointed Adjutant-General Lorenzo Thomas in his place. Great excitement ensued in both Houses. The Senate at once went into executive session to consider the extraordinary action of the President, and after due deliberation passed a resolution declaring that under the Constitution and laws of the United States, by virtue of whose authority Mr. Johnson claimed to have acted, the President had no power to remove the Secretary of War and designate any other person to perform the duties of that officer ad interim. In the House action was not less prompt. A resolution to the effect that Andrew Johnson be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors was offered, and referred to the Committee on Reconstruction. This resolution was reported back by the Committee on February 22, and the debate was begun with great spirit on the same day. It ended on Monday, February 24, at five o’clock p.m., when a vote was taken, and the resolution (which reads thus: "Resolved, That Andrew Johnson, President of the United States, be impeached of high crimes and misdemeanors") was adopted by a vote of 126 yeas to 47 nays.
In the mean time Adjutant-General Thomas had repeatedly demanded possession of the War-office, and had as repeatedly been refused by Secretary Stanton, who also caused his arrest for exercising or attempting to exercise the duties of the Secretary of War.
Mr. President, honored delegates, ladies and gentlemen:
We meet in an hour of grief and challenge. Dag Hammarskjold is dead. But the United Nations lives. His tragedy is deep in our hearts, but the task for which he died is at the top of our agenda. A noble servant of peace is gone. But the quest for peace lies before us.
The problem is not the death of one man--the problem is the life of this organization. It will either grow to meet the challenges of our age, or it will be gone with the wind, without influence, without force, without respect. Were we to let it die, to enfeeble its vigor, to cripple its powers, we would condemn our future.
For in the development of this organization rests the only true alternative to war--and war appeals no longer as a rational alternative. Unconditional war can no longer lead to unconditional victory. It can no longer serve to settle disputes. It can no longer concern the great powers alone. For a nuclear disaster, spread by wind and water and fear, could well engulf the great and the small, the rich and the poor, the committed and the uncommitted alike. Mankind must put an end to war--or war will put an end to mankind.
So let us here resolve that Dag Hammarskjold did not live, or die, in vain. Let us call a truce to terror. Let us invoke the blessings of peace. And as we build an international capacity to keep peace, let us join in dismantling the national capacity to wage war.
President John F. Kennedy New York City September 25, 1961
Address Before the General Assembly of the United Nations
For the entire speech: http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03UnitedNations09251961.htm
The fact that, as President, Bill Clinton had a scary grasp of detail only magnifies his reckless endangerment of all of our lives prior to September 11. Clinton’s derelictions as commander-in-chief have already been documented by Andrew Sullivan, Joe Klein, Byron York, the NY Times, and the Washington Post. But no one has pointed a more damning finger at the feckless ex-president than his closest political advisor and strategist, Dick Morris. In a Wall Street Journal column saliently titled "While Clinton Fiddled," Morris observed that al-Qaeda’s war on America began in the first year of the Clinton Administration, while the man whose primary responsibility was the safety of American citizens had his mind fixed on other things.
"After the February 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, President Clinton never visited the site and only alluded to it once….Visiting New Jersey shortly after the attack, he urged Americans not to "overreact." After the 1993 bombing – the first attack by foreign terrorists on U.S. soil – Mr. Clinton never met privately with the head of the CIA for the ensuing two years! Because of this lack of presidential focus, the investigation proceeded so slowly that we did not know of Osama bin Laden's involvement until 1996. As a result, the U.S. turned down Sudan’s offer to give us the terrorist mastermind on a silver platter because we said that we lacked evidence on which to hold him."
As the Clinton era proceeded, matters got steadily worse: "As the elections of 1996 loomed, a sense of crisis pervaded America. We seemed under attack from all directions by terrorists, foreign and domestic. A bomb exploded amid the Summer Olympic Games. TWA flight 800 vaporized over the Atlantic… Hundreds of American soldiers died as a bomb ripped through their barracks in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. … At the White House, we held hurried meetings as we watched with worry the growth of terrorism…." But, as Morris documents, Clinton did nothing. Instead, the President acquiesced as his national security adviser and other White House leftists shot down proposals to increase airport security because it would involve "racial profiling" and to cut off funds to al-Qaeda networks (for the same reason) and to scuttle other security measures.
Other presidential advisers reacted more responsibly to the terrorist threat, but less politically obtuse, their good intentions were thwarted by the president’s disinterest: "Some of the president’s staff and his consultants pressed the case for aggressive action to contain terror at home and attack it abroad. But at the center of the storm, Bill Clinton sat with an unusual imperturbability. Even as he fretted about whether to sign the welfare reform act and brooded about the FBI file, Paula Jones and Whitewater scandals, he seemed curiously uninvolved in the battle against terror."
In this scathing indictment, Morris doesn’t even bother to broach Clinton’s wretched affair with a 22-year old intern named Monica Lewinsky, which paralyzed the Oval Office and much of the government for 18 months, allowing al-Qaeda to blow up two of our embassies without effective response. Clinton’s only firmly held purpose during this crucial pre-September 11th window was to lie about his marital deceit, even though it meant compromising his entire cabinet, polarizing Congress, and corrupting the federal judiciary as the nation’s chief law enforcement officer perjured himself before a grand jury. Even as Bill Clinton took the steps that crippled his presidency, he knew – as the rest of us did not – that al-Qaeda was in full war mode and that his lies made it impossible for him to wage the necessary war against terrorists even if his scarily detailed mind had so much as a thought to do so.
What happened on 9/11 is as much tied to Bill Clinton and his ineffectiveness as Commander In Chief as much as any thing George Bush did or failed to do in the 8 months leading up to that horrible day.
Most Democrats don't want to dwell on the past when it comes to Clinton but can't remove themselves from bringing up the past of Bush. Clinton has plenty of blood on his hands and mostly because he did nothing to stop what was waiting on the horizon.
Most Americans realize now that the overt warnings about Osama Bin Laden from Clinton to Bush during the 2000 transition were roundly ignored by Bush and Co. leaving us wide open to 911.
The statements from Bush early on the he and his Admin. would not concern themselves with Mid East policy have come back to kick him in his silly ignorant short sighted burned out ass far too often now.
Many Americans realize now that Clintons attempted seizure of all Al Qaeda funds worldwide were halted by the Republicans in Congress lead by Sen. Phil Graham, TX, Chair of the Banking Commitee.
Had this not been done by THE REPUBLICANS what was looming on the horizon come 911 may have never occured.
Bill Clinton to George Bush, "Oh by the way George I haven't done anything about Al Queda and that Osama fellow. You might want to look into that because I totally ignored it for 8 years. I was too busy trying to cover my sorry ass. So it's in your lap now George. I could have had Osama more than once, but I thought he was too hot to handle. It's your problem now George, I'm outta here. By the way George, those stains on the Oval Office carpet was Monica's fault.
Clinton's "Wall" helped cause 911!. The one set up by Jamie Gorelic. If the left wing has its way we will go backt to the days of the Wall and Ms. Gorelic.
::::::If you think pulling out of Iraq and promising to play nice will stop further Terrorist attacks then you definitely need your head examined.::::: They are killing a lot of Al Qaeda not.!!If you were there and they killed your family-what would do-say thank you?--but then again you might
THEY WERE NOT THERE==get your facts straight before you spout off. There was a cell but it was in the Kurdish section--the area protected by the no fly zone--Also if the USA attacks Iran--the troops will be thrown to the wolves.
There is more than one article concerning Iran--saying that one of the first things they would do,If they were attacked, is cut the supply lines from Kuwait.
TRUE CLINTON IS NOT WITHOUT GUILT BUT TALK ABOUT THE PRESENT--REALITY IS NOW---Here is part of one article--Bush best be careful--OR maybe that is what his people want??????????????
"""""""' We face a dilemma if we decide to attack the neighboring country of Iran because of its nuclear ambitions.
Iran is not a passive observer. Iran is providing EXTENSIVE, CONVERT support to Shia militia in Iraq. US military planners must assume that it is highly likely that insurgents backed by Iran will attack and cut the re-supply line. Truck convoys will be captured and destroyed. Re-opening these roads would require significant military ground forces - forces that are NOT in the area and probably could not be deployed in any significant numbers for at least several weeks, if not MONTHS. """""""""
Deadly Attack On CBS News Crew 2 Team Members Killed, Correspondent Seriously Injured By Car Bomb
BAGHDAD, May 29, 2006 James Brolan, Kimberly Dozier, and Paul Douglas (CBS)
(CBS/AP) Two members of a CBS News team, veteran cameraman Paul Douglas, 48, and soundman James Brolan, 42, were killed and correspondent Kimberly Dozier, 39, was seriously injured Monday when the U.S. Army unit in which they were embedded was attacked.
A U.S. soldier was also killed in the attack, and six others were wounded......
That picture fits exactly the President: King Gerbil
When Feimgold called the President, King George, he was right on the money with his comments.. The Gerbil is certainly acting like King George in England.
I have no adequate excuse why this old cartoon and not a new cartoon came to mind. Its an endless tape playing the same song. They are dedicated and predictable, these neocons.
I remember reading the history and politcal satire of King George of England years ago and thought that it woukd never happen in the United States.. Amd look what happen.. We actually have a King George of England in the 21 century. And if the people in England could overthrow the King George, so can we!
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Al,
About your previous comment regarding war protestors doing more harm than good. What do you expect people to do when politicians ignore military families, mistreat our troops and send them into wars of choice woefully unprepared??? Protestors that I know are middle class, middle aged -often former military themselves.
I have family that was in Iraq-with the National Guard, no less. I had to send him tools-just so he could do his job of repairing radios-guess you being a Vet, I don't have to tell you how vital communications are...
Anyway-do you expect me and thousands of other military families to stand by in silence, while politicians who have never donned the uniform, let alone been to combat, misuse the lives of our loved ones?
Sorry, I'll get out in the street first...I respect their lives far too much to send them off as this presidents mercenaries. Not to mention I love my country too.
I am the daughter of a Marine-he was originally for this war-until he educated himself. He tends to be a law and order kind of guy.
Google- West Point Graduates Against the War. On their site highlighted, look at all the treaties, Geneva Convention and international laws broken by Bush for this war.
THEN you can tell me what to do to stop this unjust, immoral war...instead of knocking people who at least try to do something.
PS-Building 7?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
To the others,
I'll be getting down from my soapbox now...
T,
I feel the same way you do. There's that thin line between Al's feelings and ours. I think he dosn't want the protesters to show disrespect to the troops who are giving their lives and must trust the ones sending them in our name and for US (I mean that in both terms). We don't trust the ones sending them but do respect and love our troops as much as he does.
Some how that makes both groups seem unpatriotic to the other when nothing could be futher from the truth.
"T", we are at war and it will last as long as it last. The war on terror will be an ongoing process for a long time. Just as in Vietnam the North knew if they waited long enough the war would be won on the streets of the USA and not on the battlefield. The same as back then, the insurgents in Iraq know if they can hold on long enough they too can win the war in the streets in America. There isn't an Army in the world that can defeat us on the battlefield. The encouragement that the war protestors give the enemy only causes more deaths in the end game. As I've said before, no one I know enjoys war or seeing young men and women killed or maimed for the rest of their lives. If our troops aren't getting their supplies then that is a serious issue that needs addressed. I just saw a photo of a war protestor at a funeral of a fallen soldier holding a sign that said, "Thank the Lord for IED's". The young soldier he was protesting gave his life so that fellow could make an ass out of himself. The next time someone uses a slur to describe a public official, thank a soldier for his service that you have a right to make an ass out of yourself.
Al,
What right does Bush have to make asses out of our troops? He lied and they die. Remember that the next time you make an ass of yourself.
50 Ways To Dump The Dubya
This war on terror is going to last as long as the war on drugs. It will be far more expensive, and just as effective in its result.
Better to treat as an international police matter with military backup.
Iraq wasn't involved.
Bush lied.
The Subway Serenade and Al,
Name calling makes Jan sad :(
Subway:
I agree with EVERYTHING you said!
By the way, I love your songs and wish I could hear you play in person! :)
SPB and all,
Did you see this from Truthout?
Coming Monday: A Report by Jason Leopold: George W. Bush and Kenneth Lay
Yes, s-q. I have a feeling that will a very, very inportant story.
Justice Dept. Seeks to Block Suits on Spying
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: May 28, 2006
The Bush administration has asked federal judges in New York and Michigan to dismiss two lawsuits filed over the National Security Agency's domestic eavesdropping program, saying litigating them would jeopardize state secrets.
...
John D. Negroponte, the director of national intelligence, invoked the state secrets privilege, writing that disclosure would cause "exceptionally grave damage" to national security. The administration laid out some of its supporting arguments in classified memos, filed under seal.
Here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/washington/28secrets.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
It looks like these terrosits are aiding and abetting our government on keeping everything they want to do secret in the name of "national secuirty." How convenient.
The Center for Constitutional Rights has asked a judge to stop the program. Does anyone think they have a chance of fighting this? Any brave judges left...
I sure hope so.
Subway serenade, get a real job. Exactly what did Bush lie about?
Jan did recieve my war contractors personnel support group link? My connection is acting goofy today.
Subway serenade, Bush is the Commader and Chief and has every right to use the military when he sees fit. He got the approval of congress for the war in Iraq. Just like Johnson had the right to send me to Vietnam. Get over it.
http://www.americancontractorsiniraq.com
cjt,
Yes I did, thanks for that. I'm going to forward it to her :)
See ya'll later-gotta go work.
What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD
JANUARY 30, 2004 | Printable Version
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source
Subway, I listened to your little ditty of a song. Don't give up your day job if you have one.
Party affiliation does not mean anything any more - since both parties are infiltrated by the same "cabal".
D
Al some will counter those quotes by saying that blaming the Democrats in Congress for agreeing to war is like blaming the little girl who got in the strangers car to look for a puppy.
Now I do not necessarily agree completely with that offensive analogy as IMO many of the Dems and certain Republicans then were too gutless to go against the public consensus at that time.
I admit to falling for the stories fed to Judy Miller by Ahmed Chalabi.
Al, What did we win in Vietnam?
I won't wait until we lose 58,000 American soldiers-why will you?
The protestor you refer to was protesting a soldiers funeral because of the "Don't Ask Don't Tell"
policy for gays in the military. Get your facts straight. That is disgraceful-but you are probably torn on the gay issue anyway...so tell your friends to protest the war-not military policy.
By the way, the military told Bush the war would fail-purely from a strategic sense because the plan sucked. Don't believe me?
Try the US Army War College-which is where most of my information comes from.
Your ignorance is appalling-you a for a war that even the Army is against.
I don't know if it is lack of ability on your part or lack of knowledge-most of the military is against this war-why don't you support them? Because you support the war-NOT the troops.
Again, I don't have the time to educate you.
Educate yourself or please don't talk to me-and I don't give a damn about quotes from politicians-like I said-I get my info from the Army: WHR
PS- The Guard gave me a pin for appreciation of a military family speaking out about this illegal war...another reason I doubt you were ever a soldier.
Goodnight? I just woke up.
Just a little thought here.
Hubs was medical director at an EVAC hospital during 'Nam. He did his job, and he hates war.
He also shares my absolute passion for hating the Bush administration and what it is doing to this country, not just the war, but pretty much the entire Executive Elevation to God movement.
I hate the Iraq war and what it is doing to people - I protest every chance I get (as I did in the 60's) because it is my right as a citizen.
However, I have in the past 2 years, supported approximately 10 soldiers on the front lines throught the www.anysoldier.com connection. I have sent over 75 boxes - cards - letters...phone cards.
It is not their fault - they are doing their jobs and they deserve our support.
This is still a republic - it is not yet a dictatorship. Not all of us follow the Military Ideals nor do we believe that the President and Vice President (5 deferments) have the answers.
As a US citizen, I believe I have been lied to from day 1, about everything in this administration.
Someone said the other day, the Haldeman and Ehrlichmann would be thrilled. The Nixonian Revolution has finally been achieved.
But yes I do support the troops - that does not mean I give up my right to argue that our Administration is going to be reviled through history as the worst this nation has ever endured.
The military is a victim. The many cards and letters I've received (and emails) indicate that they also are doubting the effort. They want to be home. They are young, and want to be back living normal lives.
When Bushco sends the twins - I'll buy his story. When Congress sends their children, they'll have credibility.
Just my opinion - which legally I am still entitled to maintain. My husband saw horrible things in his hospital. Things you never forget.
cjt-
Thanks for that. I am active in Military Families Speak Out, but that is a new one to me. I can give that out for referrals to folks.
basheert, you are so right the military IS a victim of Bushco.
Subway, keep singing ;-) All the anti-GOP, anti-war songs are very uplifting.
What will we all do with "no news" for until Tuesday? I will shake off much of this anger, as soon as some indictments come down...Hurry Fitzmas, don't be late!
Basheert, anysoldier is a great group. Also this IS the Nixon gang in many aspects, just wiser and more powerful. I am not joking.
T, thanks for the referrals. Look there into the Heroes Inaugural Ball, it was a big hit with the mil families and troops. Espescially the wounded.
Good Morning/Afternpon/Evening folks!
Happy Sunday!
And I hope that everyone is having a wonderful Memorial Day weekend! What is on my mind today?? Well, I was up very late in the morning reading the two documents in which Fitzgerald posted on the blog and was posted on his Special Counsel website. I also told Fitzgerald in an email that I would make a comment on the two documents.
First document: Exhibit A-C
I can now see the inconsistencies of the little soldier's testimony to the GJ on March 5, 2004, and on both March 24, 2004. In Exhibit A on March 5, 2004,:
Q.: And during the time did the Vice-President indicate that he was upset that the article was out there which falsely in his view attacked his credibility?
A: Yes, sir
Q: And do you recall what iti is that the Vice-President said?
A: I recall that he was upset that he was keen to get the truth out. He wanted to get all of the facts out about what he had or hadn't done, what the facts were or weren't.
From this exchange with Libby, Libby was very sharp in question to Fitz on March 24, 2004. Libby even described how Cheney cut out articles and kept them at his desk and "thinks about it." Also, Libby recognized Cheney's handwritten notes which Fitz called Grand Jury Exhibit 8. Libby was familiared with Cheney's writing. This contradicts what Libby has recently said to the media that he can't recalled that the handwritten notes were Cheney's.
Now in Exhibit B on March 24, 2004, Fitz asked the same questions but rephrased it in a different way to Libby. Now, Libby started to use the Gilligan's defense. I can't recall syndrome. Libby can't recall conversations. He recalled in March 5 but not on March 24!
In Exhibit C, March 24, 2004: This is an interesting exchange with Libby. Again, Fitzgerald rephrases the questions to Libby:
Q: Do you recall the Vice-President indicating or asking you or anyone in your presence whether or not Ambassador Wilson's wife had arranged to him sent on a junket?
A. I think I recall him--I don't recall him asking me that particular question, but I think I recall him musing about that.
Q. Okay. And do you recall when it was that he mused about that?
A. I think it was after the Wilson column.
Q. Okay, and obviously--
A. I don't mean the Wilson column, I'm sorry, I misspoke. I think it was after the Novak column.
Sounds like Libby is entrapped in his his own words. Libby would have never thought Armitage would be a key witness to this case. He never knew that Armitage had been cooperating with Fitz from day one. You can see the change of behavior from Libby on March 5, 2004 and March 24, 2004.
Second document: Fitz's response to Libby regarding new articles the Gov't intends to offer at trial. Case number: 05-394 (RBW)
The bottom line is that Fitz is presenting a state of mind of Cheney from Cheney's handwritten notes on a clipping of the Wilson Op-Ed. Fitz is showing Cheney's "views communicated during the conversations that Cheney and Libby had during the period immediately following the publication of Wilson Op-Ed which is essential as proof that Libby knowingly made false statements to federal agents and the grand jury."
The smurf should have plea bargained with Fitz from the get-go.
Hi guys nice comments here.
First I'm like to comment on the NSA lawsuits. Everything is national security as reason to stop the rights of people. Gonzales should have used the defense for all the criminal acts of Abramoff, Lay/Skilling, DeLay and Duke. What's strange is Bush released classified national security info about the CIA case were was the protection there? I guess this Administration uses the word national security to cover up criminal acts and crimes.
SPB thanks for the info. Now I understand how the little soldier got caught in the lies. Nice move Fitz. The time table was interesting as to when the memory loss came and went. I guess those secret visites to the White House after Libby's indictment didn't pay off.
How the big GOP guys are after Gonzales just because he made a mistake and doesn't know much about constitutional law. Look he's learning on the job like the rest of Bush's appointees. Noticed Frist aka Dr. Quack is so funny he is backing the President as he will no longer be a Senator. Nice way to go out as a Bush supporter.
Oh I thought of something this weekend " the candidates for politicial office this year look more like a police line up of criminals to be identified".
Yes, s-q...time for America to get their memory refreshed about George and Kenny Boy.
WB, Jason.
Whats on my mind?
The Second Amendment vs. Bushco.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/war_on_democracy.html
Its up to the Republican controlled House to begin the impeachment proceedings against Bush and Cheney for subversion of our democracy.
Time for a bike ride.
You know, I think "they" are doing stuff like this to scare people from going to sites that will tell the truth. If you put the news out that that you are watching a person thought's on line then you scare them into only looking at what you want them to see.
UUUUGG!
"U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and FBI Director Robert Mueller on Friday urged telecommunications officials to record their customers' Internet activities, CNET News.com has learned.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/
In a private meeting with industry representatives, Gonzales, Mueller and other senior members of the Justice Department said Internet service providers should retain subscriber information and network data for two years, according to two sources familiar with the discussion who spoke on condition of anonymity."
Just one method here Jan...below is part of some vast and complex web searching techniques being used now...
Magic Lantern is a keystroke logging program developed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Magic Lantern was first reported in a column by Bob Sullivan of MSNBC on 20 November 2001 [1], also by Ted Birdis of the Associated Press (Ted Birdis, Washington Post, 11/22/01 "FBI Develops Eavesdropping Tools").
Unlike previous keystroke logger programs used by the FBI, Magic Lantern can reportedly be installed remotely, via an e-mail attachment or "by exploiting common operating system vulnerabilities". It has been variously described as a virus and a Trojan horse. It is not known how the program might store or communicate the recorded keystrokes.
In response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed in 2000 by the Electronic Privacy Information Center, the FBI released a series of unclassified documents relating to Carnivore, which included the "Enhanced Carnivore Project Plan". Sullivan's confidential source said that redacted portions of that document mention "Cyber Knight",
". . . a database that sorts and matches data gathered using various Carnivore-like methods from e-mail, chat rooms, instant messages, and Internet phone calls. It also matches files with captured encryption keys."
Spokesmen for the FBI soon confirmed the existence of a program called Magic Lantern, denied that it had been deployed, and declined to comment further. [2]
The public disclosure of the existence of Magic Lantern sparked a debate as to whether anti-virus companies could or should detect the FBI's keystroke logger. Birdis reported that at least some anti-virus companies, including Network Associates, maker of McAfee anti-virus products, had contacted the FBI following the press reports about Magic Lantern, to ensure its anti-virus software would not detect the program. [3] Network Associates issued a statement denying this kind of cooperation with U.S. legal authorities within a week, fueling speculation as to which anti-virus products might or might not detect government trojans. [4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Magic_Lantern_software
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Well you should left alone, you framed enough pictures of
Bush that you now are known by them to be a Super Patriot!
cjt,
Don't give people the wrong idia here ;)
I just saw something funny. Someone gave pictures of Blair/Bush mouthing the song My endless love by Lional Richi and Diana Ross. It fit their relationship as a true brokeback mountian moment. Grandmanuk good to hear from you and I had a great day Peaches called after they had a moment of prayer to all our troops. The guys out in Afgan know all the news that we know can't say anymore now.
Waterflake might have already seen this
German Engineers Help the USA-Your government Bush is lying to you
SPB thanks for the evaluation of those documents-I didn't know they were there yet.
t,
That is a great website.
T,
Thanks for the link but how exactly do "we" help? Is this an offical project? Sorry but I can't figure it out from the information on the website...
Al,
Over at BFA we have a troll that's been an albatross around that wonderful space since 2002. Compared to him you are a rank amatuer with no grasp of reality.
The Commander in Chief cannot ust the military as he wishes. (Duh)
Congress gave bush authority to use force Only after he went to the UN for the second resolution. He got the authority and blew off the UN. (Duh)
Actually I used to have a much nicer voice than I do now. Ya see after 9/11 we were all desperate to return to normal here in NYC. So two weeks after the attacks I went back into the subway to bring a little comfort to those who were braving the toxic somke that permeated the underground from Times Square to Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.
I spent over 100 hours between Thanksgiving and Christmas in the stations closest to Ground Zero, doing a home grown version of a USO show.
Imagine the feeling of dozens of people singing "Silent Night" at Wall Street, and I was there, with my guitar.
So 5 years later my voice ain't what it used to be, but I still sing better than Bob Dylan. I can live with that.
But you've insulted one of the walking dead of 9/11 and it just makes you look small.
As for my day job, For the past 21 years I've been a fulltime caregiver to my severely disabled wife. I just go to the subway to relieve what has been called "Caregiver Burnout." It's just my way of screaming at the world.
The Gift (A True Story)
Subway Serenade
I totally agree:
The Commander in Chief cannot ust the military as he wishes. (Duh)
Just imagine every leader in every country would just pick another country and head out for war...declaring they could do so just because it's there right to command the military forces...Madness at it's best
Waterflake,
I've long ago vowed that I'm not taking this right wing crapola any more. They mistake bluster for fact and sell their faith to the same moneychangers that Jesus chased from the Temple.
I've long past had enough.
As
Commander-in-Chief, Bush is directly responsible for his troops/men.
The Military Uniform Code of Justice calls for him to appear and answer to this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060528/ap_on_go_co/marines_iraq_investigations;
_ylt=AmaPe2VuDeE4lwXfNVTEZL0EtbAF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhZDJjOXUyBHNlYwNtdm5ld3M-
In the name, of the people, by the people, and for the people, of the United States...
Is he to be relieved of his duties as commander-in-chief, pending charges...
Murtha will not tolerate this? Well, neither will I
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Folks,
More news on Hookergate:
Newsweek: FBI Looking at Hunter, DeLay
By Paul Kiel - May 28, 2006, 3:38 PM
"Newsweek reports that the FBI is investigating Wilkes' ties to Reps. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) and Tom DeLay (R-TX):
According to published reports and congressional and law-enforcement sources who did not want to be identified discussing a sensitive investigation, the Feds are also reviewing Wilkes's ties to other powerful House leaders. Former GOP majority leader Tom DeLay, Armed Services Committee chairman Duncan Hunter and Appropriations Committee chairman Jerry Lewis all reportedly had dealings with Wilkes. None has been accused of any wrongdoing; a spokesman for Lewis said the congressman had not seen Wilkes for 10 years. Hunter's spokesman said his boss urged the Pentagon to ignore congressional pressure on contracting, and DeLay's lawyer had no immediate comment."
More ties connected to Brent "Boom shaka laka" Wilkes and Duke “Naughty” Cunningham.
Subway,
Thanks for sharing about yourself.. Our pest blogger who is berating you is just working hard for the GOP graft Koolaid money! I always appreciate your songs. You are awesome!
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Folks,
As we remember the soldiers and vets of Memorial Day, here is a poem that I found. Enjoy:
Last Monday in May”©
By John T. Bird
We pause to remember those who died
With so much courage, so much pride
They’ll never come back, yet memories endure
To remind us of freedom: fragile, pure
We’re worthy of their sacrifice if we pause each day
Not just on the last Monday in May
Yes, The Subway Serenade, don't let him get to you. Your story really moved me. I love that you went back to sing when people really needed it -so sorry it hurt your voice- I would never have known :)
America Unites in Remembrance
The White House Commission on Remembrance is an independent government agency whose missions include:
Promoting the spirit of unity and remembrance through observance of The National Moment of Remembrance at 3 PM local time on Memorial Day;
Ensuring the nation remembers the sacrifices of America's fallen from the Revolutionary War to the present;
Recognizing those who served and those who continue to serve our great nation and reminding all Americans of their common heritage.
http://www.remember.gov/
Make sure that you take a moment of silence at that time in honoe of the soldiers and vets....
SBP,
Thanks for the encouragment. One thing that attracted me to the candidacy of Howard Dean in 2002 was his conclusion early on that one person can make a difference.
My post 9/11 performances in 2001 were all given with the intensity of a one man Broadway Show.
Red Line Blues was the Song of the Year for 2002, and I had to laugh at all those 9/11 chart toppers from folks who never knew my audience.
They can keep their damned Grammy.
Jan and SPB.
Perhaps you misunderstood. Al didn't upset me in the least. At BFA we got a guy named Rocket, who is by far the BEST troll on the world wide web.
Al is a featherweight, as is his pResident, The Commander 'N Thief.
I appeciate that he allowed me to open up to my friends here, but I really need to warn him that if he's gonna come here with talking points, my doctors have told me that I'm Bullsh@t Intolerant, and I'll add that I'm very protective of my friend.
Come here with bluster and I'll direct you to the little boy's room down the hall.
Fitz is from FlatBush.
Nuff said.
There ya go, Mr. Subway. Keep on singing.
I watched a video online in the wee hours last night by Greg Palast...concerning the Bush family, he said he interviewed people concerning W.'s time in the Texas Guard and Vietnam. At the Wall, I believe he said there are 19 names with the same birthdate as G.W. Bush that did serve, did not jump over others and get to serve in the Texas Air Guard (scoring 25 out of 100 on his pilot's test -think about this one). Very interesting video...went into his business dealings, the voting rolls in Florida, good ole boys in Texas, lobbyists and public service.
Prayers to all veterans but most of all to the Vietnam soldiers born on July 6, 1946 that didn't come home. Also, thank you to all that do serve, their families, and all public servants that know the true meaning of public service...courage and humility. I thank you.
Serenade, even with my amateur status I can still hang with you. One thing I do have is tenacity and facts on my side. Sounds like you have had a hard time of it, but if you have been caring for your wife that long then it isn't Bush's fault.
Sounds to me that you are just soured on the world and are very much filled with hate like a lot of other bloggers here. It must be hell for you waking up every morning to your dismal existence.
To everyone else that may have missed it, yes I am a Vet from a family of Vets. I am a patriot and I am not easily dismissed.
Nice try Jan, but I think the majority on this blog prefer an adversarial tone over your "everyone has a say".
Serenade is one bitter dude. I'm a tad more upbeat type of guy myself versus the singing anarchist.
www.veteransforcommonsense.org
Worth a look.
Book Recommendation:
anon can ignore this one.
FUBAR -
Hilariously funny book - about the Religious Rapture nuts that are trying to take over the country. It blends truth with humor (otherwise it would be impossible to read).
If you really HATE the Bushco's you'll love this book. It's a hardback (I would have paid twice as much to support them) but very quick to read and hits the nail on the head.
Wait for the Rapture people...when it doesn't come, who knows what will happen next???
For those who are interested,
www.anysoldier.com
First communication is by snail mail - I send "holiday" cards - I put a little note in with my email...presto - IMMEDIATE response.
These people are starved for NORMAL. They live in a surreal world that none of us would ever wish for our family or our children. They are alone, they are frightened, they are being "used".
But they LOVE to email, write, receive packages...anything!
The PO now has "flat rate" boxes where you can send to an FPO, APO address for $8 - up to about 90 pounds! I have sent a ton of stuff... near as I can tell, the people in this country are shipping everything we own to Iraq and Afghanistan for our boys...some of whom are living under NETS in Afghanistan.
Al,
When you have a fact, please let us know. I've never met a goper that ever gave a "fact" about anything.
Serenade, fact #1, Bob Dylan can't sing worth a sh*t either.
Serenade, fact #2 -- George Bush has about 2 and one half years to go and he will finish his term despite your blow hard predictions.
Serenade, fact #3 -- you are a Sad Sack.
Fact #4 --- When Bill Clinton took office the Democrats controlled all 3 branches of government. When he left office all 3 branches were controlled by Republicans.
Serenade, Fact #5 -- Bush managed to get even Democrats such as Hillary and Kerry to vote for authorization to go to war with Iraq. At the time they all thought the Intelligence about WMD was correct. Now they all have selective amnesia including you.
Al,
Still waiting. Just one.
Serenade, Fact #6 -- George Bush is President and all the "B" side Bob Dylan tunes you can hum will not change that one iota.
Good night folks, If I wait around for a fact from a goper, I'd never get any sleep. How long has it been? Since Lincoln I think.
Final posting:
1. More bad news for William Jefferson:
Jefferson Probe Includes Other Suspected Schemes
FBI Is Said to Be Looking for a Pattern
By Allan Lengel
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, May 28, 2006; A04
The FBI is focusing on at least eight different suspected bribery schemes as part of its corruption probe of Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La.), according to a federal affidavit and sources familiar with the investigation.
A key part of the FBI probe has centered around Jefferson's dealings with a Louisville high-tech company, iGate Inc., that was marketing broadband technology for the Internet and cable television in Africa.
But an affidavit used in last weekend's controversial search of Jefferson's Capitol Hill office stated that authorities are looking at "at least seven other" bribery schemes in which Jefferson "sought things of value in return for his performance of official acts."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/27/AR2006052700960_pf.html
2. From Thinkprogress.org:
"The Boston Globe reports David Addington, i.e. “Cheney’s guy,” screens legislation before it reaches Bush’s desk in an effort to remove any limits it might place on presidential powers. Addington is the architect of the “signing statements” that Bush has used to assert his right to ignore laws passed by Congress."
And more on this on Friedoglake. Christy does an excellent job on her article. Here is her thoughts about Cheney:
From Firedoglake;
A Constitutional Crisis of Cheney’s Making?
By Christy Hardin Smith
"I’d say that this is high time for some much-needed Congressional oversight, but I’m not holding my breath that the Rubber Stamp Republican Congress gives a rats ass that it has traded in its mandate and Constitutional duties for a few shiny baubles and a pat on the head from Dick Cheney. Shame on all of them."
http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/
And Christy is right..
Have a good evening folks. I'm enjoying a good movie. Signing off!
Serenade, Fact #7 -- Breathing all those toxic fumes has fried your brain.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/
2006/5/27/233246/216
by Al Rodgers.
Don't forget the comment section for Al's eye candy pictures.
Serenade, Fact #8 -- You really aren't that witty.
Serenade, Fact #9 --- I can't sing either.
I found that Boston Globe article about Addington routinely reviewing pieces of legislation searching for provisions that would infringe on presidential power very interesting.
Included with this article is a graph that shows how many provisions have been challenged per Presdient. It's very telling about this administration's greedy grab for executive power which has pretty much been unprecedented at this level.
In 5.5 years Bush has challenged more than 750 provisions in bills.
In 8 years, Bill Clinton challenged 140 provisions. In 4 years, GWH Bush challenged 230 provisions. In 8 years, Reagan challenged 95.
It's about time ChimpCongress quit rolling over for these guys...
To all of our soldiers, their families and to all of the veterans of past wars...Thank you for your service and may God bless you.
the subway serenade - You are a REAL man. A man with compassion.
D
We spray and we spray, but those pesky Bush supporters just keep coming back.
Sponge Bob could be the leader, and these same idiots would turn out for him.
Pow! Zoom! Right to the moon!
"We spray and we spray, but those pesky Bush supporters just keep coming back."
Yes, I wonder why? For some reason they seem to like this blog.
D
Spent some time out at Arlington Cemetary and the Iwo Jima Memorial this weekend. Spent a lot of time thinking about those that have sacrificed for our country and about all of the "excesses" we see in the USA today. We have an excess of executive power. Not only is this dangerous right now, due to the fact that unchecked power has led to (and continues to lead to) abuses by Bush, Cheney and their subordinates, but it will be dangerous even after Bush and Cheney are gone, whether that happens in 2009 or before. This is because excessive swings in one direction usually lead to excessive swings in the other direction. As a result our country suffers.
Bush's excessive rhetoric smf miduse of intelligence data in stirring the country up to pursue Iraq made everyone look bad, not only Bush and his subordinates/allies, but also those who were politically afraid to show some spine. Now, Bush has no credibility either at home or abroad, despite the fact that we face a very dangerous and difficult situation with Iran. And our intelligence gathering ability is in the crapper, thanks in part to the way George W has treated the CIA. As a result our country suffers.
Bush's excessive use of power to conduct warrantless electronic surveillance will wreak havoc in the future. Convictions will be overturned by the courts. The ability to conduct legitimate electronic surveillance will be hampered once all the crap that is going on now rises to the forefront of people's consciousness and they insist on strong limits on electronic surveillance.
I get sick to my stomach when I think the many abuses of the public trust that have occurred under the watch of (and in many cases with the blessing of) George W. Bush.
May God bless all of our veterans and active soldiers as well as the souls of those who paid the ultimate price for this country.
don de drain:
wonderful post
wonderful thoughts
Lots of good perspective!
How much longer until bush is impeached?
i hate that child
Serenade, Fact #10 --- George Bush is still President and is a Veteran by the way. Cheney is still VP and Libby still hasn't been convicted of any crime.
Bill Clinton is a real Draft Dodger by design which a lot of people conveniently forget.
I had other priorities in the '60s than military service.
Dick's Vietnam Hypocrisy
by John Nichols
The Nation magazine, May 17, 2004
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com
/Politicians/DickCheney_VN_Hypocrisy.html
"Clinton has long acknowledged his opposition to the Vietnam war. As a Rhodes scholar in England, he helped organize an anti - war protest in November of 1969. But he has also said that it was his doubts about the morality of the war and the Selective Service system that led him to abandon the ROTC idea and to subject himself to a draft lottery. Only the luck of the draw - a high lottery number - kept him out. One of his friends from his Oxford days strongly backs Clinton's story."
"........the letter is consistent with everything I've been saying for the last 13 years, since I was first asked about this in late 1978. I was in the draft before the lottery came in. I gave up the deferment. I got a high lottery number and I wasn't called. That's what the records reflect. A Republican member of my draft board was given an affidavit in the last couple of days saying that I got no special treatment and nothing in that letter changes that, although it is a true reflection of the deep and conflicted feelings of a just - turned - 23 - year - old young man. I felt that at the time."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/
frontline/shows/clinton/etc/
draftletter.html
Clinton is a liar and a Draft Dodger!
Family and friends with political influence kept Bill Clinton out of the draft after his graduation from Georgetown University. His uncle, Raymond Clinton, in 1968 personally contacted Senator Fulbright, William Armstrong (Chairman of the Hot Springs draft board) and Lt. Commander Tice Ellis, Jr. (Commanding Officer of the local Naval Reserve unit) to obtain a slot for Bill in the Naval Reserve. A slot was especially created for Bill when no existing reserve slots were open at his local reserve unit.
Bill Clinton, choosing not to follow through, failed to show up at the reserve unit for his interview and physical. Raymond Clinton later informed Lt. Com. Ellis that Bill would not be joining the reserves and that everything has been taken care of.
Robert Corrado a former member of the Hot Springs draft board in 1968 recalled the chairman of the three man draft board held back Clinton's file with the explanation that we have to give him time to go to Oxford. Corrado further stated that Armstrong complained about an aid from Senator Fulbright's office urging him and his fellow board members to give every consideration to keep Clinton out of the draft. Clinton's draft file was routinely held back from consideration by the full board for the remainder of the year.
Bill was AWOL from showing up at the Reserve Unit.
He and Quayle, DeLay explained to the assembled media in New Orleans, were victims of an unusual phenomenon back in the days of the undeclared Southeast Asian war.
So many minority youths had volunteered for the well-paying military positions to escape poverty and the ghetto that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself.
Satisfied with the pronouncement, which dumbfounded more than a few of his listeners who had lived the sixties, DeLay marched off to the convention
What's AWOL mean? I don't read books much.
Exerpts from Clinton's sorry I lied letter:
Clinton's ROTC Letter
As Entered in Congressional Record (Page: H5550) 7/30/93
Dear Col. Holmes,
I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and ought to say.
First, I want to thank you, not only for saving me from the draft, but for being so kind to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been. One thing that made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable to me was my high regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that the admiration might not have been mutual had you known a little more about me, about my political beliefs and activities. At least you might have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC.
When the draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting against, and that is why I contacted you. ROTC was the one way in which I could possibly, but not positively, avoid both Vietnam and the resistance.
Bush chose to do honorable service in the National Guard flying fighter jets, which takes a pair by the way. Clinton chose to lie his way into ROTC service but when it came time to fulfill that commitment he couldn't even do that. He chose to leave the people that had gone to bat for him flapping in the wind.
Clinton is the real draft dodger.
I sure needed one them letters back then but I was too coked up and drunk to get it together.
Chicken Hawk Bush, no other like him.
College Cheerleader Limbaugh comes close with his ruptured anus deferrment though.
Clinton was elected twice and there was barely a whimper from the Left as to his disgraceful history of draft dodging yet the same folks that carried the water for Clinton are aghast at honorable service by Bush. Hypocrisy comes to mind.
See the updates to my website
http://actionlyme.org
Any man or woman that will strap himself into the seat of a fighter jet is no coward and the shallow words of the biased won't change that. It is easy for the unbiased to see who is the real coward. Clinton who went AWOL from the ROTC or Bush who flew fighter jets. Hyperbole will not change that.
Serenade, this is a fine example of where my facts are more powerful than the BS that is spread by the Bush haters.
Just tell all the National Guard troops that served or were killed in Vietnam that they were draft dodgers.
don de drain -
Very good point about Bush's abuse of warrantless electronic surveillance wreaking havoc in the future.
don de drain said: "Convictions will be overturned by the courts. The ability to conduct legitimate electronic surveillance will be hampered once all the crap that is going on now rises to the forefront of people's consciousness and they insist on strong limits on electronic surveillance."
On another topic: What sickens me most about the Bush & Cheney regime's BS "on serving one's country" is not only that Cheney had 5 deferrments and Bush had daddy fix his records, is that they never once spoke up about the slime that the Swift Boats put out about Kerry who actually served our country in war.
And how they maliciously slandered John McCain (war veteran) and his family in the 2000 elections.
Then there are the lies they told the American people to take us to war in Iraq -- that is criminal! Slime & crime that's their MO...
I wish everybody were draft dodgers and we wouldn't have any wars. When are we going to learn?
D
If everyone were draft dodgers we would be speaking German today or possibly Russian. Just because you don't fight back doesn't mean you don't get attacked.
Family and friends with political influence kept Bill Clinton out of the draft after his graduation from Georgetown University.
Who knew such a rotten place had a library?
http://www.rotten.com/library/
bio/usa/karl-rove/
I'm not talking WWII. I'm talking 2006. Humanity should now have evolved to the point where we do not carry arms, when we have learnt to have sanctity for life, all life forms, where we take care of each other and Mother Earth and not go down the path to self-destruction. Think PEACE Al!
D
January 19, 2001
Web posted at: 5:06 p.m. EST (2206 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton will leave office free of the prospect of criminal charges after he admitted Friday that he knowingly gave misleading testimony about his affair with Monica Lewinsky in a 1998 lawsuit.
Under an agreement with Independent Counsel Robert Ray, Clinton's law license will be suspended for five years and he will pay a $25,000 fine to Arkansas bar officials. He also gave up any claim to repayment of his legal fees in the matter. In return, Ray will end the 7-year-old Whitewater probe that has shadowed most of Clinton's two terms.
"I tried to walk a fine line between acting lawfully and testifying falsely, but I now recognize that I did not fully accomplish this goal and am certain my responses to questions about Ms. Lewinsky were false," Clinton said in a written statement released Friday by the White House.
"Humanity should now have evolved to the point where we do not carry arms, when we have learnt to have sanctity for life, all life forms,"
Abortion comes to mind.
Plus, we don't have a draft. It is all volunteers and thanks to those that do volunteer.
If it can't be proven then make up documents like Dan Rather did. I was in Vietnam and I stayed drunk as much as possible. Soldiers do a lot of drinking.
I bet John Kerry even tied one on occasionally.
George W. Bush and Kenneth Lay
truthout.org
Clinton didn't get disbarred and fined for a BJ. He got it for lying under oath.
Rami,
Thanks! I was looking for that :)
Much like Mr. Fitzgerald is doing now. He will spend years trying to convict on purjury charges but the original crime of outing a CIA agent was a non starter.
you're very welcome Jan :)
Al this is for you:
I am certain that after the dust of centuries has passed over our cities, we, too, will be remembered not for victories or defeats in battle or in politics, but for our contribution to the human spirit.
~John Fitzgerald Kennedy~
Fact is the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is unecessary and any soldier fighting over there isn't doing it for freedom or democracy but for money which was better spend in education and fighting poverty!
Missery Accomplished
Our servicemen and women deserve better than being kept in a country that has turned into Dante's Inferno. Bring them all home. Don't leave them there because George the Younger wants to save face.
As for this new "law" that Bush signed into being about "no protestors allowed at military funerals", no protestors should be allowed an *anyone's* funeral. Let the families and friends of the deceased have their hour or two of grieving, no matter what the person died of, or for. Protest elsewhere. Have the respect and responsibility grown-ups are supposed to have.
-jamie in new york
This is on my mind!!!
"May Day, I Repeat, May Day," Say Vets!
Cathy Garger
In small towns throughout America there’s a new flurry of concerned activity from grassroots organizers of a most un-likely type. It might even be fair to say that this latest, most determined and focused group is nothing at all like the socialists, hippies, yippies, and liberal rebels from our country’s last major radical movement.
Even if we consider that many of these worried dissenters are the exact same age as protestors from the “hippie generation,“ it is still highly doubtful that many in this new group had anything to do with the 60’s and 70’s radical “underground” at all.
As a matter of fact, it’s safe to say that those now strategically organizing with mighty big plans are quite possibly the very last people you’d ever think would make waves or step out over the line. All about service to country, this new bunch of activists are actually quite level-headed, law-abiding citizens.
After all, what else would you expect from those who trained and served with the US military?
Yes, this new group consists primarily of veterans of foreign wars. In conversations with these men and women, they come across as deeply caring about what is happening to America as they did back when they enlisted (or were drafted). Quite ready then to risk life and limb fighting to defend their country, the same is still true of these vets today.
With such a dedicated bunch, it should therefore come as no surprise that many of our modern day vets “in the know” are both alarmed - and far less than charmed - to realize that what has been perpetually termed by Washington as a “war on terror” is actually a psychological operation of manufactured fear being waged against our own citizens.
There is currently cause for serious concern as veterans have either begun to suspect (or are already aware) that the “war on terror” has been orchestrated by some in power on purpose specifically to mislead US citizens into believing in a need to wage wars. Yes, you read that right. It is believed that the “war on terror” that began effectively on September 11 was orchestrated by some in power now within our own government.
Is it any wonder that a growing number of former military men and women are taking issue - and action - around this? For the purposes of keeping this family-rated, suffice it to say that an increasing number of veterans are pretty darn ticked. And, well, that’s putting it mildly.
In Internet discussion groups and veterans’ meetings from coast to coast, ex-military men and women from all political camps - conservatives, progressives, libertarians, and constitutionalists among them - are becoming increasingly aware of many things about their former employer, the US federal government, that, shall we say, more than concerns them.
Now I don’t know about you, but whenever I think of veterans, I have this stereotype in my head dating back circa the 1960’s of clean-shaven older guys, hair neatly slicked back, fake poppies sticking out of the pockets of their white short- sleeved buttoned shirts, waving American flags with pride at the annual Memorial Day parade.
When I was a kid, these men hung out in the VFW hall and seemed mighty proud to have fought some far-off enemy over there in order to keep their families and communities safe from harm back home. Those veterans, from wars that seem like ancient history to us now, held their heads high as they proudly relayed stories about defeating whichever evil-doing US enemy they were being asked to fight at that particular moment in time.
It was always with great conviction that they steadfastly defended their Commander In Chief as being absolutely justified in sending them across some sea to put them directly in harm’s way to wage some war upon some bad guys somewhere …and always for some great, noble, and necessary cause of one kind or another.
So what’s with the deal with the veterans of today? Why can’t they just behave like the vets of yesterday who saluted the flag and carried it proudly (right side up) while marching in home town parades? Why don’t you hear ex-soldiers now sitting around bragging about war stories that include gruesome tales of killing some foreign “enemy,” just like the vets of yesteryear?
Seems that a whole lot’s changed in the past forty years. It’s almost as if the average military soldier who served in the second “great” war or in Korea has gone the way of some prehistoric dinosaur. US veterans who served in Vietnam, in two wars on Iraq, and one on Afghanistan - are not our grandfathers’ vets.
What’s the big difference, between vets back then and the veterans of today? It appears to be a simple matter of what today’s vets know compared to what yesterday’s American war heroes did not.
Generally speaking, today’s veterans are more likely than ever to be plugged in to what’s actually going on across the sea. In real time, today’s ex-soldiers are able to read embedded reporters’ and current soldiers’ blogs from occupied war zones and the alternative (“truth”) media. With the advance in technology that allow users to be immersed in the very heat of battle, today’s vets have the advantage over their grandfathers as they don’t have to depend on getting their war news from patriotic short news reels that appear before Saturday afternoon matinees at the movie theatres downtown.
In addition to being connected to the Net, most modern day veterans don’t rely on the mainstream media for their news, either. Rather than being fed optimistically-slanted victories in the so-called “war on terror,” veterans in the know are smarter than that. These men and women are not easily fooled by glorified “wins” in some glamorized, noble version of war spun for them by the controlled US mainstream media on behalf of the mega-billion dollar US “defense” contractors.
No, today’s vets have a clue, and they read all the news that the mainstream media does not see fit to print. As a result of receiving more accurate information, America’s veterans are often beyond outraged to learn that the government they trusted, having risked life and limb to protect, has been waging war after war based on what they increasingly recognize as more than just a few un-truths.
Many of today’s vets are reporting that all they’ve been told by the mainstream media and from federal government employees about September 11 is simply not true. And a growing number of ex-military men and women are in fact bold enough to make their case, right out loud in public, as to why they believe that 9/11 was a military false flag operation orchestrated and carried out by some within our very own government.
Not surprisingly, more and more people are coming out of the woodwork talking about 9/11 as an inside job. While it might have been true a couple of years back that the widely held public perception was that only lunatic “conspiracy theorists” made such claims, all one has to do is surf the Internet for several hours in order to discover a multitude of reasons that prove that what America has been told repeatedly about September 11 is not true.
Wait. Did I just say several hours of searching? A Google search just performed by entering the words: “9/11 was an inside job” yielded 106,000 “hits” in .26 seconds. Imagine how much information could be uncovered in several hours?
Chances are by now you’ve either seen or heard about Charlie Sheen’s recent appearance on CNN in which he questioned the government’s official 9/11 story. But in all candor, as bold and brave as Sheen may be, his reputation as notorious Hollywood bad-boy just doesn’t cut the mustard with many flag-waving die-hards intent on hanging on to the belief that we have only a few more mountains left to go before we find that elusive terrorist mastermind hiding deep inside some far-off, remote, foreign cave.
Admittedly, it’s not too difficult a task for the mainstream media to discount a Tinsel Town ex-druggie and prostitute-frequenter who talks about controlled demolitions on CNN. The same can’t as easily be said, however, about honored and decorated military veterans who question the official 9/11 story such as Robert Bowman, Ph.D., Lt. Col., USAF (Ret.) , George Nelson, Colonel, USAF (ret.) and Donn de Grand-Pre, Colonel, US Army (ret.).
So while it’s relatively easy for the sold-out media to trash and belittle movie star celebrities as non-credible, amoral, and eccentric “conspiracy nuts,” it’s something else altogether when patriotic veterans who served our country honorably are willing to put their reputations on the line and stand up publicly and fearlessly against their former federal employer.
For this reason alone it would seem to be nearly impossible not to give at least some credence to an honored ex-military veteran when he speaks up openly and says the previously un-thinkable…that it appears that some in our very own government not only knew that the attacks of September 11 were going to happen, but that some in our government were actually behind the attacks that were then used as justification to enter into not one - but two wars.
No wonder why vets are now organizing and screaming “Mayday, Mayday!” And if you really think about it, could there possibly be any better reason to fly our American flags upside down? When unquestionably the most patriotic of all citizens, who literally put their lives on the line to come to the aid of their government, go so far as to say that their beloved nation was attacked from within in the ultimate psychological warfare operation, is this not reason to sound the alarm loudly enough for the rest of the world to hear?
It’s no wonder these veterans are rapidly mobilizing like never before! One new group of veterans that’s recently formed is called Veterans for 9/11 Truth. Initially, before the group was even formed, Veteran and founding member Alfons Olszewski created a radio station, Grassroots InfoMedia at Live 365
( http://www.live365.com/stations/alfonslof ) in order to get out the truth about 9/11.
A humble man, Alfons, is emphatic that he does not wish to be placed in the limelight. Even though he is the webmaster, radio show host, and primary founder of the group, he is far more comfortable sharing the credit of the group’s inception with the combined efforts of other concerned vets such as Matt, Stevan, and Titus, who helped get the group up and going.
These veterans fully realize that they are just a few of countless “unknown soldiers” who, knowing firsthand about military operations, watched in open-mouthed, knowing horror the morning of September 11 as no jet fighters ever came close to intercepting four reportedly “hijacked” commercial jet airliners.
Unlike the vastly unaware general public, our former (and, in all likelihood, current) military personnel knew that there was more than plenty of time to stop all four attacks… had that actually been something that our administration wished to have happen.
These vets, too, many with technical backgrounds, watched with a definite advantage as the twin towers and later, WTC Building 7, (the building that leaseholder Larry Silverstein directed to “pull it” despite the fact that it was never hit by a plane) rapidly descended at a virtual free-fall speed straight down into their own footprints the very same way that controlled demolitions take place with the assistance of explosives pre-planted on an earlier date.
While it is true that these veterans are deeply distressed that our nation’s government appears to have been taken over by those who do not have the best interests of the American people in mind, they’re not the only ones to suspect insider foul play.
Americans in general seem to doubt the official story and want more answers, too. A recent Zogby poll, in fact, found that 45% think "Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success.”
This is indeed cause for concern. Nearly one-half of Americans believe that our own government either allowed to happen or helped to make happen the worst attack in our nation’s history. If we are not seriously concerned for the future safety of our fellow citizens with the very real possibility of a future attack, then we are not paying close enough attention.
It is any wonder then that veterans are crying “Mayday, Mayday,” as one would be expected to shout from the rooftops when one’s beloved country is under attack? As the mission statement for the Veterans for 9/11 Truth group ( http://www.V911T.org ) states in no uncertain terms:
We have chosen to display the United States Flag with the union down as a signal of the dire distress this Nation is experiencing. Displaying the flag in this manner is not disrespectful to, or a desecration of, the flag. It is lawful to display the flag in this manner in times of distress. Ours is truly a Nation in distress. Our ultimate mission is to strive for and achieve the day when we can in good conscience again display the flag with the union up. Because then, and only then, will we know that we are rid of the forces that have placed this Nation and the world in such dire distress.
US Veterans of foreign wars are sending out a national distress signal because they believe that the government of the nation they love has been hijacked. Their goals include outreach to the general public to inform them why the official story about September 11 is not true, as well demanding a criminal trial for the actual perpetrators of the mass murders that occurred in Manhattan, at the Pentagon, and in Shanksville, PA.
It is hoped that, veteran or not, every American will check out what veterans are saying about getting behind the truth behind 9/11 - once and for all. Whether you are a veteran, on active military duty, or are interested in becoming a civilian “auxiliary” supporter, to learn more about how to join up and report for duty, visit http://www.v911t.org .
And for those among us who are civilians? Just because we have not signed up for military duty does not mean that we are absolved of the responsibility to come to the aid of our nation during national times of crisis. The role of each individual citizen was made quite clear, in fact, in the Declaration of Independence which gives clear instruction in what to do in cases such as the one in which we find ourselves faced:
“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
Veterans throughout America are voluntarily springing back into service out of love for their country. If you know a veteran, please pass this information along to them. If you do not know any veterans, please pass this along to others who may.
Time is of the essence. We have been hearing from those in federal government since September 11 that it is not a question of whether or not another “terrorist” attack will occur - but a question of when. If we are to suspect that some inside our government may indeed be in some way responsible for the attacks, then it would not be too far a stretch to wonder if America is perhaps overdue for another such operation to justify a reason for the next invasion - such as one on Iran, Syria, or any other nation our political leaders would like to invade and occupy.
Our veterans already went above and beyond the call of duty in service to their country when they went overseas to fight in a US-staged war. The least that the rest of us can do is support them in furthering public education around 9/11, and demanding that the real perpetrators - the actual criminals who committed these crimes - be brought to justice and placed behind bars where they can no longer do any more harm to anyone else.
And if, by chance you are reading this but are just not sure what to believe concerning September 11 and you want to check this out in greater detail for yourself? The informational links provided at http://www.V911T.org is a great place to start.
In the words of Marian Wright Edelman, “A lot of people are waiting for Martin Luther King or Mahatma Gandhi to come back -- but they are gone. We are it. It is up to us. It is up to you.”
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Hi guys hope everyone is safe and healthy this memorial day. I read Jason's article and our former Govenor Gray Davis should be happy the truth is out about the lies from Cheney/Bush. Let's wait and see how Bush helps Kenny Boy.
I rented two video's this weekend one was about Fitz ya it was cool it was so much like him I laughed.
The other was weird and so much like today it was like looking into a mirror. You only had to change one word to make it current news. Change Communism to Terrorism and you'd have today's news. That movie is Good Nigh Good Luck. I hope we have a journalist who has the guts to stand up for truth and honesty like Edward R. Murrow. You know your old when you can relate to black/white TV. Grandmaunk you have to rent that movie it is like history repeating itself. Oh and subway serenade I heard your music your great and keep doing what you're doing music to the medicine to the soul and you are that medicine.
As for who served our country and who didn't. Let's leave that to the indiviual person him/her self. Most Americans today haven't served because we don't have a draft. But remember every American has had a family member past or present who has served our country. Those who had the chance but didn't live with that we don't have to remind them. We're still one nation under God aren't we.
Do these words remind you of anyone?Just came back from a Memorial Service at an American Legion Hall-very sobering.The loudest of the loud for this man and his policies -at the start of this Fiasco-now see they supported him on blind faith.Any way here is part of the list--probably 500 more words in it--but you get the idea.
lying, thieving, holier-than-thou, rightwing, cruel, crude, rude, coarse, crass, cocky, corrupt, dishonest, debauched, degenerate, dissolute, swaggering, bullhorn shouting, infra-structure destroying, buck passing, hysterical, criminal, history defying, finger pointing, pretzel choking, collateral damaging,wedding party bombing, clearcutting, torturing, jobs outsourcing, torture out-sourcing, election fixing, women’s rights eradicating, Medicare cutting, uncouth,SPITEFUL, boorish, vengeful, fascist, cashist, audaciously stupid, brazenly selfish, lethally ignorant, journalist purchasing, genocide ignoring, corporation kissing, poverty inducing, crooked, coercive, autocratic, primitive, uppity, high-handed, domineering, arrogant, inhuman, inhumane, inbred, inept, insipid, incapable, incompetent, ineffectual, insolent, insincere, know-it-all, snotty, pompous, contemptuous, supercilious, gutless, spineless, shameless, avaricious, noxious, poisonous, imperious, merciless, graceless, tactless, brutish, brutal, Karl Roving, backward thinking, persistent vegetative state grandstanding, nuclear option threatening ,genocide ignoring,
, ineffectual,loudmouth, bullying, swell headed, ethics eluding, domestic spying, medical marijuana busting, Halliburtoning, narcissistic, undiplomatic, blustering, malevolent, demonizing, Duke Cunninghamming, hectoring, dry drunk, Muslim baiting, hurricane disregarding, oil company hugging,.............
I feel today is the tipping point.
Another miserable day for all the "doom and gloomers".
I can't imagine what hell it must be to be a Liberal.
The Clinton Legacy
RECORDS SET
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
* According to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate. A reader computes that there was a total of 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned. A key difference between the Clinton story and earlier ones was the number of criminals with whom he was associated before entering the White House.
ARKANSAS ALTZHEIMER'S
Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.
Bill Kennedy 116
Harold Ickes 148
Ricki Seidman 160
Bruce Lindsey 161
Bill Burton 191
Mark Gearan 221
Mack McLarty 233
Neil Egglseston 250
Hillary Clinton 250
John Podesta 264
Jennifer O'Connor 343
Dwight Holton 348
Patsy Thomasson 420
Jeff Eller 697
FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton's Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times.
May Day! That originates from the French m'aider, help me. If we all send out this distress signal I'm sure God will hear us.
D
God bless America!
grandmanuk said, "Go watch a parade!" LMAO -- You go grandmanuk!
Tell it like it is...
Bush has done no such thing. He is finally the man who decided to participate in a war that had been waged against us even under Clinton. The first Trade Center bombing, the Cole attack and numerous other assaults on US interest went unanswered by Clinton. Each one enbolding the Terrorist to try bigger and more horrific attacks such as occured on 9/11. Bush is the man who said enough is enough. You don't attack US soil and go unpunished.
If you think pulling out of Iraq and promising to play nice will stop further Terrorist attacks then you definitely need your head examined. Or should we just tolerate a few thousand deaths here and there every 6 months or so?
I was a Gangster for Capitalism.
I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the country's most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all ranks from second Lieutenant to Major General. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.
Thus I helped make Mexico, and especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the raping of half-a-dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers and Co. in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras "right" for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, and promotion. Looking back on it, I feel that I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate a racket in three city districts. The Marines operated on three continents.
Major General Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 - June 21, 1940) was at the time of his death the most decorated U.S. Marine in history. He was twice the recipient of the Medal of Honor, one of only nineteen to be so honored.
Al still equates the war on terror to Iraq. Seems he swallowed the Bush bait hook line sinker so deep that he's gut hooked and will never get beyond that like many others vets are doing now.
No indictment for Rove but jury still out
By WILLIAM D. McTAVISH
Contributing Editor
Capitol Hill Blue
May 28, 2006, 08:00
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Contrary to some published reports, Presidential advisor Karl Rove was not indicted two weeks ago by the federal grand jury investigating the leak of a covert CIA operative's name but he remains a focus of special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, sources close to the investigation say.
"No indictment, sealed or otherwise, has yet been issued against Mr. Rove," says an investigator working on the case. "But," he adds, "that doesn't mean one isn't in the works if Fitz (special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald) can make his case."
What I do know is we haven't been attacked on US soil since 9/11 and we are killing a lot of Al Qaeda in Iraq. The terrorist are making a stand in Iraq. I'd rather fight them there than here. I know those with their heads in the sand think if we just play nice they will go away, but it just doesn't work like that. We were perceived as weak under Clinton. Attack after attack with no retaliation. That just made them bolder and we wind up with an attack like 9/11. I think Bush and team have done a good job keeping this country safe since 9/11 and they deserve some credit.
Two Americans;
One is that we are living the best ever. We have now lived the American dream with our leadership. No more policialy crimes or wars or dept. all our elected leaders are honest and there is no crime. During the Clinton years we live in horror of all the corruption of our elected officials who went to jail. Abramoff, Lay/Skilling and Duke all Clinton's doing. That spying on American breaking all our constitutional laws. Selling our ports. Invading countries and torture of prisoners. Clinton working hand and hand with big business to high gas profits. Every country hating America's policies. If only we had an honest President who could clean up this mess. Clinton sends our kids to war based on lies yet he got 5 deferments or skipped out while drunk in order not to go to a real war. Clinton's administration leaked CIA's name and wants immigrates to be deported with their children. Clinton is the most corrupt President in the history of this country. He should be impeached for teason and his Administration should be in jail.
Second America: Bush has made this a better country with the help of our honest GOP. No backdoor dealing with this President he's up front and honest with Americans. We're living the American dream and dept free. Our children will live this dream too. No wars, no crime and finally all the GOP are honest and do the job they were sent to do. If only we had Bush in office during the Katrina storm none of the people would have had to suffer he would have helped save everybody. If only we had Bush as our President 5 years ago we would be better off today. Now Bush has to clean up that mess that Clinton made. Bush has restore our respect around the world. Clinton worked for Satan Bush works for God. We believe and trust our current President it's to bad we can't have him as President forever. Just think of our great our country would be with all GOP running our country lead by George W. Bush. Bush is more knowledgable and honest then Bill Clinton. Bush got medials of honor for his bravery and saving his felllow soldiers during the war. Dick Cheney served 5 times and has some many blue hearts to show he is a true American hero. Rummy served from the Nixon area to present and his so many medials it could full a room. Connie Rice served in the military and knows what it takes to run a military defense she is one of the few females who risk her life in combat for our country. Karl Rove has served the military and even with injury went back in to stay with his fellow soldiers. Libby stands tall as a true soldier one that all could use as an example of what to become. We will now be leaving Disney land folks and the story you just read is fiction. I just hope it helps those who choose to forget reality.
I never met this man:
Karl Rove was born December 25, 1950, in Denver, Colorado.
In high school in Utah, was known for being argumentative with teachers and students, for using "vulgar and suggestive language" with female peers, and was accused of stealing money from other students' lockers on more than one occasion.
Often ran for school office; his pattern was to quietly slander his opponents with allegations of sexual deviancy, and then deny that he had done so. Interestingly, at some point a report on Rove was purportedly generated by a school district psychiatrist; if true, this would indicate that his behavior was such that it had risen to the level of being noticed by those in authority.
http://www.dailykos.com/
storyonly/2005/7/10/174425/431
FBI FILES
JUNE 20, 1996
The Senate Judiciary hearings on the release on classified FBI files to the Clinton Whitehouse began in Congress today. Margaret Warner talks with two members of that committee, Senator Joe Biden, (D) Delaware, and Senator Charles Grassley, (R) Iowa. Kwame Holman leads off with a background report.
The Senate Judiciary Committee brought in five former White House staffers from the Reagan and Bush administrations, staffers whose confidential FBI files were obtained by the White House Security Office overseen by Craig Livingstone.
Reporters for major news organizations have worked for the past two weeks trying to confirm existence of an indictment but have come up empty.
"That's no surprise," says a Justice Department source that has proven reliable in the past. "You can't find an indictment that doesn't exist."
But multiple sources say Rove remains a central figure in Fitzgerald's investigation and could still be indicted. Some suggest the prosecutor is using the threat of an indictment to force to testify against former Vice Presidential Chief of Staff Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who has been indicted, and others, including Vice President Dick Cheney.
In January 1996, a long sought-after copy of billing records from the Rose Law Finn were identified and turned over to prosecutors by Carolyn Huber, a White House assistant to Hillary Rodham Clinton. Ms. Huber, herself a former Rose Law Firm employee, recognized the records and realized that they had been among papers that she had removed six months earlier from the First Lady's book room on the third floor of the White House.
The mysterious appearance of the billing records, which had been the specific subject of various investigative subpoenas for two years, sparked intense interest about how they surfaced and where they had been. Shortly after the discovery of the records, Hillary Clinton made history -- she became the only First Lady ever called to testify before a Grand Jury inquiry.
For those who could benefit from a self-administered examination of their moral compass:
http://www.light-to-dark.com/clinton_bush.html
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Domestic Intelligence
Harper's Weekly, March 7, 1868
IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT JOHNSON
On Friday, February 21, President Johnson transmitted to both Houses of Congress a message announcing that he had removed Secretary of War Stanton, and had appointed Adjutant-General Lorenzo Thomas in his place. Great excitement ensued in both Houses. The Senate at once went into executive session to consider the extraordinary action of the President, and after due deliberation passed a resolution declaring that under the Constitution and laws of the United States, by virtue of whose authority Mr. Johnson claimed to have acted, the President had no power to remove the Secretary of War and designate any other person to perform the duties of that officer ad interim.
In the House action was not less prompt. A resolution to the effect that Andrew Johnson be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors was offered, and referred to the Committee on Reconstruction. This resolution was reported back by the Committee on February 22, and the debate was begun with great spirit on the same day. It ended on Monday, February 24, at five o’clock p.m., when a vote was taken, and the resolution (which reads thus: "Resolved, That Andrew Johnson, President of the United States, be impeached of high crimes and misdemeanors") was adopted by a vote of 126 yeas to 47 nays.
In the mean time Adjutant-General Thomas had repeatedly demanded possession of the War-office, and had as repeatedly been refused by Secretary Stanton, who also caused his arrest for exercising or attempting to exercise the duties of the Secretary of War.
On their watch:
http://www.light-to-dark.com/on_their_watch.html
Not exactly the best platform to preach effective anti-terrorism, is it?
Mr. President, honored delegates, ladies and gentlemen:
We meet in an hour of grief and challenge. Dag Hammarskjold is dead. But the United Nations lives. His tragedy is deep in our hearts, but the task for which he died is at the top of our agenda. A noble servant of peace is gone. But the quest for peace lies before us.
The problem is not the death of one man--the problem is the life of this organization. It will either grow to meet the challenges of our age, or it will be gone with the wind, without influence, without force, without respect. Were we to let it die, to enfeeble its vigor, to cripple its powers, we would condemn our future.
For in the development of this organization rests the only true alternative to war--and war appeals no longer as a rational alternative. Unconditional war can no longer lead to unconditional victory. It can no longer serve to settle disputes. It can no longer concern the great powers alone. For a nuclear disaster, spread by wind and water and fear, could well engulf the great and the small, the rich and the poor, the committed and the uncommitted alike. Mankind must put an end to war--or war will put an end to mankind.
So let us here resolve that Dag Hammarskjold did not live, or die, in vain. Let us call a truce to terror. Let us invoke the blessings of peace. And as we build an international capacity to keep peace, let us join in dismantling the national capacity to wage war.
President John F. Kennedy
New York City
September 25, 1961
Address Before the General Assembly of the United Nations
For the entire speech:
http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/Speeches/JFK/003POF03UnitedNations09251961.htm
The fact that, as President, Bill Clinton had a scary grasp of detail only magnifies his reckless endangerment of all of our lives prior to September 11. Clinton’s derelictions as commander-in-chief have already been documented by Andrew Sullivan, Joe Klein, Byron York, the NY Times, and the Washington Post. But no one has pointed a more damning finger at the feckless ex-president than his closest political advisor and strategist, Dick Morris. In a Wall Street Journal column saliently titled "While Clinton Fiddled," Morris observed that al-Qaeda’s war on America began in the first year of the Clinton Administration, while the man whose primary responsibility was the safety of American citizens had his mind fixed on other things.
"After the February 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, President Clinton never visited the site and only alluded to it once….Visiting New Jersey shortly after the attack, he urged Americans not to "overreact." After the 1993 bombing – the first attack by foreign terrorists on U.S. soil – Mr. Clinton never met privately with the head of the CIA for the ensuing two years! Because of this lack of presidential focus, the investigation proceeded so slowly that we did not know of Osama bin Laden's involvement until 1996. As a result, the U.S. turned down Sudan’s offer to give us the terrorist mastermind on a silver platter because we said that we lacked evidence on which to hold him."
As the Clinton era proceeded, matters got steadily worse: "As the elections of 1996 loomed, a sense of crisis pervaded America. We seemed under attack from all directions by terrorists, foreign and domestic. A bomb exploded amid the Summer Olympic Games. TWA flight 800 vaporized over the Atlantic… Hundreds of American soldiers died as a bomb ripped through their barracks in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. … At the White House, we held hurried meetings as we watched with worry the growth of terrorism…." But, as Morris documents, Clinton did nothing. Instead, the President acquiesced as his national security adviser and other White House leftists shot down proposals to increase airport security because it would involve "racial profiling" and to cut off funds to al-Qaeda networks (for the same reason) and to scuttle other security measures.
Other presidential advisers reacted more responsibly to the terrorist threat, but less politically obtuse, their good intentions were thwarted by the president’s disinterest: "Some of the president’s staff and his consultants pressed the case for aggressive action to contain terror at home and attack it abroad. But at the center of the storm, Bill Clinton sat with an unusual imperturbability. Even as he fretted about whether to sign the welfare reform act and brooded about the FBI file, Paula Jones and Whitewater scandals, he seemed curiously uninvolved in the battle against terror."
In this scathing indictment, Morris doesn’t even bother to broach Clinton’s wretched affair with a 22-year old intern named Monica Lewinsky, which paralyzed the Oval Office and much of the government for 18 months, allowing al-Qaeda to blow up two of our embassies without effective response. Clinton’s only firmly held purpose during this crucial pre-September 11th window was to lie about his marital deceit, even though it meant compromising his entire cabinet, polarizing Congress, and corrupting the federal judiciary as the nation’s chief law enforcement officer perjured himself before a grand jury. Even as Bill Clinton took the steps that crippled his presidency, he knew – as the rest of us did not – that al-Qaeda was in full war mode and that his lies made it impossible for him to wage the necessary war against terrorists even if his scarily detailed mind had so much as a thought to do so.
What happened on 9/11 is as much tied to Bill Clinton and his ineffectiveness as Commander In Chief as much as any thing George Bush did or failed to do in the 8 months leading up to that horrible day.
Most Democrats don't want to dwell on the past when it comes to Clinton but can't remove themselves from bringing up the past of Bush. Clinton has plenty of blood on his hands and mostly because he did nothing to stop what was waiting on the horizon.
The intentional negligence by BushCo regarding the Aug 6 2001 is historical fact.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/prelude_to_disaster.html
I apologize that the benefit of the doubt is given to Bush here-that he was simply careless.
My next 'toon on this and other BushCo behavior will not be as generous.
Most Americans realize now that the overt warnings about Osama Bin Laden from Clinton to Bush during the 2000 transition were roundly ignored by Bush and Co. leaving us wide open to 911.
The statements from Bush early on the he and his Admin. would not concern themselves with Mid East policy have come back to kick him in his silly ignorant short sighted burned out ass far too often now.
Many Americans realize now that Clintons attempted seizure of all Al Qaeda funds worldwide were halted by the Republicans in Congress lead by Sen. Phil Graham, TX, Chair of the Banking Commitee.
Had this not been done by THE REPUBLICANS what was looming on the horizon come 911 may have never occured.
Many realize, but not enough.
Bill Clinton to George Bush, "Oh by the way George I haven't done anything about Al Queda and that Osama fellow. You might want to look into that because I totally ignored it for 8 years. I was too busy trying to cover my sorry ass. So it's in your lap now George. I could have had Osama more than once, but I thought he was too hot to handle. It's your problem now George, I'm outta here. By the way George, those stains on the Oval Office carpet was Monica's fault.
Clinton's "Wall" helped cause 911!. The one set up by Jamie Gorelic. If the left wing has its way we will go backt to the days of the Wall and Ms. Gorelic.
::::::If you think pulling out of Iraq and promising to play nice will stop further Terrorist attacks then you definitely need your head examined.::::: They are killing a lot of Al Qaeda not.!!If you were there and they killed your family-what would do-say thank you?--but then again you might
THEY WERE NOT THERE==get your facts straight before you spout off.
There was a cell but it was in the Kurdish section--the area protected by the no fly zone--Also if the USA attacks Iran--the troops will be thrown to the wolves.
There is more than one article concerning Iran--saying that one of the first things they would do,If they were attacked, is cut the supply lines from Kuwait.
TRUE CLINTON IS NOT WITHOUT GUILT BUT TALK ABOUT THE PRESENT--REALITY IS NOW---Here is part of one article--Bush best be careful--OR maybe that is what his people want??????????????
"""""""' We face a dilemma if we decide to attack the neighboring country of Iran because of its nuclear ambitions.
Iran is not a passive observer. Iran is providing EXTENSIVE, CONVERT support to Shia militia in Iraq. US military planners must assume that it is highly likely that insurgents backed by Iran will attack and cut the re-supply line. Truck convoys will be captured and destroyed. Re-opening these roads would require significant military ground forces - forces that are NOT in the area and probably could not be deployed in any significant numbers for at least several weeks, if not MONTHS. """""""""
DONT KNOW IF ANYONE SAW THIS-
Deadly Attack On CBS News Crew
2 Team Members Killed, Correspondent Seriously Injured By Car Bomb
BAGHDAD, May 29, 2006
James Brolan, Kimberly Dozier, and Paul Douglas (CBS)
(CBS/AP) Two members of a CBS News team, veteran cameraman Paul Douglas, 48, and soundman James Brolan, 42, were killed and correspondent Kimberly Dozier, 39, was seriously injured Monday when the U.S. Army unit in which they were embedded was attacked.
A U.S. soldier was also killed in the attack, and six others were wounded......
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/24/iraq/main541815.shtml
http://www.light-to-dark.com/obeyance.html
And it continues: Bush refuses to obey the will of the People and their laws.
Fascism is what fascism does, including setting itself up for a fall. Sabotage is one of the defining characteristics of criminal behavior.
So, sit back, grab a soda, and enjoy the show.
Stephen,
That picture fits exactly the President: King Gerbil
When Feimgold called the President, King George, he was right on the money with his comments.. The Gerbil is certainly acting like King George in England.
I have no adequate excuse why this old cartoon and not a new cartoon came to mind. Its an endless tape playing the same song. They are dedicated and predictable, these neocons.
Thank you, spb.
Stephen,
I remember reading the history and politcal satire of King George of England years ago and thought that it woukd never happen in the United States.. Amd look what happen.. We actually have a King George of England in the 21 century. And if the people in England could overthrow the King George, so can we!
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