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George W. Bush and Kenneth Lay
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 5/29/2006
May 29, 2006
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- Name: Patrick J. Fitzgerald
- Location: U.S. Attorney On Assignment - WDC, Illinois, United States
Think Globally Prosecute Locally - I grew up in Flatbush, kept my nose clean, went to law school. Now that I am in Chicago and D.C. I have found that the rampant graft and corruption to be a travesty - a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. ---Favorite quote --- "Conditional love is an oxymoron." - Yours truly
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79 Comments:
Fitz it's time for Sean and his team to get back to work. The info that they have in their case brings move criminal acts to light. I just hope someone doesn't blame Enron/Cheney/Bush corruption on Bill Clinton. It's starting to sound the the dog ate my homework excuse. I did notice that all the attention is on Hillary/Bill which means someone is really really scared. Lieberman didn't help his cause with honesty as his involvement in the Enron matter. I guess now we know why Liebermann hugged Bush and support the GOP corruption team. Lay down with dogs you come up with fieas.
Jason is now two for two not bad.
I thought that when people are found guilty of a crime they are incarcerated until sentencing. Why is this not the case with Lay and Skillen?
When 911 happened I had the overwheling feeling that I was like a child that woke up one morning to find my mother raped and left for dead but still alive. Now I know that she new all along who did it but was too afraid for her children to tell the truth. All the while the real perp of the crime, "father","FATHER", the one whom we all trusted to protect us, was teling us we have to do what he says so that now on will ever hurt us or our mother again, was the one that did it. We believed in Father and before we knew it, he fenced us in, turned us against each other and made us his slaves.
It's time to wake up.
Anon: Lay/Skilling posted bail and turned in their pastports. They are free until they are sentenced to jail. They can request to stay out of jail until their appeal is heard. But make no mistake about it these two are guilty as charged and now their felons. Let's just see how their best friends Bush/Cheney work their magic to make this go away.
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Thanks, Jackie.
I didn't know that bail was an option once one had been found guilty, is that something that is pleaded at the start of a trial, or does everyone have that option?
Blair Bowed to U.S. Pressure in Speech, Paper Says
British Leader Said to Make 'Significant' Changes on Iran, Global Warming in Address at Georgetown
By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, May 29, 2006; A16
LONDON, May 29 -- Prime Minister Tony Blair caved in to White House pressure by sharpening language on Iran and softening it on global warming in a speech he delivered Friday at Georgetown University, according to a British press report Sunday that Blair's office immediately denied.
According to the Sunday Telegraph, Blair made "significant" last-minute changes to his major foreign policy address and "objections by President George W. Bush's inner circle played a key role in the alterations." An official at Blair's 10 Downing Street office, speaking on condition of anonymity as is standard practice here, said it was "categorically untrue that any White House objective played any part" in the speech.
Blair is frequently criticized in Britain for his close relationship with Bush, who is extremely unpopular among Britons. The prime minister is particularly faulted for his alliance with Bush in the Iraq war. Critics have complained that Blair seems too eager to please Bush in what many here view as a lopsided relationship that has benefited Bush far more than Britain.
http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fwp-dyn%2Fcontent%2Farticle%2F2006%2F05%2F28%2FAR2006052800528_pf.html
Dear Web Manager ; I would like to have a copy of the 8-page letter from the president of iran to president bush.This was on your site under dear Abby. I wanted to send this on to some of my family and friends.If you could email this to me i would be very happy. i have been giving your website to all my friends and contacts.Thank you for your time,Raymond - moniek7@sbcglobal.net
Anon Captial crimes are somelikely the only ones that don't get bail. Bail is only to assure that you will appear in court. Your innocent until proven guilty. At the sentencing the jail will decide if a felon can stay free on bail or go right to jail. Our system of law leans not to punish but to lean to fair unbais justice. Bail is based on alot of factures and it's for all accused people regardless of crimes unless it's a capital case. Capital cases are like murder or terrorism. It's a fair bail process and not judged personally. I know our law system to hard to understand but I've studied other countries legal systems and I'm proud to say we have the best that others should consider. I hope this helps.
Jackie, Thanks so much for the clarification, it has helped me to understand the process.
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There you libs go again convicting Ken Lay before the appeals process is over. This great man created a lot of jobs and is under this partisan legal attack only because he is pals with Bush.
"There you libs go again convicting Ken Lay before the appeals process is over. This great man created a lot of jobs and is under this partisan legal attack only because he is pals with Bush."
We did not convict Ken Lay..a jury of his peers did.
If I am not mistaken, the appeals process is post-conviction, which tells me that he is guilty of what he was accused of.
Whatever funds he has left, or whatever funds his true believers give to him to help him out in his appeal process, he can spend appealing. But, we did not convict him.
I just can't resist this one
Ok Al fraud and lying under oath is no longer a crime. If you disagree with the Bush Administration you have committed teason. Abramoff should be free even if he did commit a crime, Duke admitted guilty but because he's part of the GOP it's not a crime. Now as for those Dems and those who speak out against Bush now those are the real criminals and should go right to jail for such crimes. I need a laugh today thanks Al.
I wonder how many here could even come close to accomplishing anything Ken Lay did with his life?
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Al,
You are just making that point to get a rise out of everyone. Ken lay created a ponzi scheme and was lying to investors from day one - he is no hero to business and will rot in jail.
That's right. Free Cunningham, Lay, Abramoff and any others that might be unjustly accused by these lib courts.
I'm a total right wing nut case that supports any old thing that comes out of this wonderful WH.
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Had y'all going there a minute didn't I?
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Spending what are supposed to be your retirement years appealing what could very well be a life sentence is an accomplishment?
Here I thought traveling and spending time with your grandchildren was an accomplishment.
Silly me.
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Look, those people were stupid enough to trust a pesnion so they got what they deserved.
This is America baby, survival of the fittest.
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You libs still don't get it. It's any old Republican at all now. We don't care about the details or any discrepancies, just so we win and you lose.
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I'm off to see Brokeback again. Hey Jan, wanna go?
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You saw me there?
Well I'll by myself again then.
Ta!
http://www.truthout.org/
docs_2006/052906C.shtml
Al needs to take his survival of the fittest, baby....and shove it.
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Earlier she confided to a reporter that her son called frequently from Iraq after he experienced nightmares over the little girl.
"He called me many times," she said, "about carrying this little girl in his hands and her brains splattering on his boots. He'd say, 'Mom, I can't clean my boots. I can't clean my boots. I see her.' "
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raymond kulick:
Here's a link to the letter from the Pres of Iran to Bushco.
You can click on the PDF file at the end of the article.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/10633/
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"Look, those people were stupid enough to trust a pesnion so they got what they deserved.
This is America baby, survival of the fittest."
aka
Survival of the most criminal by calling in the markers from those who benefitted the most from his/her criminal activities before they lost it all by getting caught.
Screw the sheep that were foolish enough to get caught up in that old American Dream of house, car, 2.5 kids, dog and never aspired to more than that.
Screw the folks that supply the youngun's for unjust wars because your kids are gonna be safe in an ivy league school with a back pocket full of deferments from mommy's / daddy's old boy connections.
I could go on all evening.
Shame on us American's for allowing these people to do this to our country.
It's time to organize and stand up.
It's too bad we can not count on our elected representatives to represent us.
It's too bad that our journalist's are benefitting too much from the criminal's to hold them accountable.
Forgive me, I ramble when I am angry.
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Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid accepted free ringside tickets from the Nevada Athletic Commission to three professional boxing matches while that state agency was trying to influence him on federal regulation of boxing.
Reid, D-Nev., took the free seats for Las Vegas fights between 2003 and 2005 as he was pressing legislation to increase government oversight of the sport, including the creation of a federal boxing commission that Nevada's agency feared might usurp its authority.
When 911 happened I had the overwhelming feeling that I was like a child that woke up one morning to find my mother raped and left for dead but still alive. Now I know, that she new all along who did it but, she was too afraid for her children to tell the truth. All the while, the real perp of the crime, "father":"FATHER", the one whom we all trusted to protect us: the one who was telling us how we have to trust him and do what he says so that no one will ever hurt us or our mother again, was the one that did it. We believed in Father and, before we knew it, he fenced us in, turned us against each other and made us his slaves.
It's time to wake up.
In an interview Thursday in his Capitol office, Reid broadly defended his decisions to accept the tickets and to take several actions benefiting disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff's clients and partners as they donated to him.
"I'm not Goodie two shoes. I just feel these events are nothing I did wrong," Reid said.
Reid had separate meetings in June 2003 in his Senate offices with two Abramoff tribal clients and Edward Ayoob, a former staffer who went to work lobbying with Abramoff.
AP recently reported that Reid also wrote at least four letters favorable to Abramoff's tribal clients around the time Reid collected donations from those clients and Abramoff's partners. Reid has declined to return the donations, unlike other lawmakers, saying his letters were consistent with his beliefs.
Senate ethics rules require senators to avoid even the appearance that any official meetings or actions they took were in any way connected with political donations.
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What else is new? If it is as crooked as hell you can bet the Bush crime family are invoved.
Captain Anon
It is called ethics and the appearance of undue influence.
What else is new? If it is as crooked as hell you can bet the Bush crime family are invoved.
Captain Anon
At least William Jefferson and Cunningham sold out for some serious money. Reid is selling out for "chicken feed".
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It appears that corruption in government is walking both side of the aisles. The Democrats are going to have a hard time selling the lie of restoring trust and integrity to the politcal process. They are just as corrupt as they claim the Republicans are. We may have to import our politicians from other countries to get any that are honest. Your US Congress, the job that Americans can't do with class.
Jan, tell that to the Governor of Kentucky. He may want you to testify for him.
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I haven't seen anyone call Mr. Fitzgerald, "Fritz" since Dr. Evil. Hmmm.
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Jan, you sly dog. Have you been holding out on us?
Jan, are you really the Evil Al Rogers?
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Jan, aka Al Rogers???
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Hello folks,
I hope that everyone is having a wonderful Memorial Day off today. I rented the move" Good Night and Good Luck. A very excellent movie and so close to home today in journalism.. I hope that there are more Mr. Morrows out there as future journalists. Now thisis interesting article:
From Talkleft.com
Is Al Gore Our Man?
"Al Gore continues to make the news as people ponder whether he should run again for President, should he run and can he win if he runs.
Raw Story has quotes from Frank Rich's New York Times column in which he says Gore may be in the right place at the right time."
The cartoon of the day!
Gerbilears:
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/20060526_luckovich_bush_rallys_his_base/
http://www.bartcop.com/frog-march.JPG
Folks,
Here is another "brokeback" letter between the Gerbil and Kenny boy. I call this letter the "gotcha" letter. Berkowitz surprised Skilling with the "gotcha" cross-examination with Skilling on Photofete. That letter shows a definite connection with the Gerbil and Kenny!
http://www.globalecho.org/usrdir/3/images/NewGreatGame.jpeg?visitID=71c4b6d8a19a5f8fe83893de02ea0675
Got to run.. I am watching the Heat vs. the Pistons!
I missed where Jason reveald his sources as promised. Anyone got a link?
Wow, there are lots of deleted comments. I guess folks are still not playing nicely with each other again today. :-(
The weather in the Chicago area was fantastic the past few days. The rain stayed away long enough. There were some good Memorial Day events this weekend.
Have a good week everybody, and try to be nicer to each other, OK?
It is generally a good article by Leopold. However, the last sentence irks me:
To this day, neither Cheney nor Bush has acknowledged that they got it wrong and that their inaction helped fuel the California energy crisis.
Bush and Cheney did not merley "get it wrong," they were clearly lying through their teeth. They had to have known damn well that Enron and other energy companies were manipulating the markets. And that energy market manipulation was also being used to manipulate the state politically as well. I would say they are complicit in the fraud, as was their FERC appointee Pat Wood. There probably exist documents that could be used to prosecute and incarcerate the bunch of them, if there was a zealous prosecutor up to the task.
Folks,
More on Hookergate:
Here ia excerpt of an article that shed a lot more about certain key people involved in the hookergate:
Poker parties a window on way he curried favor
By Dean Calbreath and Jerry Kammer
STAFF WRITER AND COPLEY NEWS SERVICE
May 28, 2006
"Swirling with liquor, cigar smoke, bawdy jokes and spirited hands of poker, the gatherings were like an all-American night out with the boys.
But the parties – held for more than a decade in posh suites at the luxurious Watergate and Grand Westin hotels in Washington, D.C. –were anything but small-town Americana."
"Participants included CIA agents, lobbyists, defense contractors and, occasionally, staffers and members of Congress. The cigars included the best that could be bought from Fidel Castro's Cuba. Some of the players arrived in Mercedes-Benz limousines hired by the host, Poway defense contractor Brent Wilkes."
"The poker games provide a window into the way Wilkes befriended powerful people, including former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham, who could help him get millions of dollars in federal contracts. Because of published reports that the hotel suites were sometimes visited by prostitutes – which Wilkes heatedly denies – the bribery scandal is now known in some circles as “Hookergate.”
Most of the people familiar with Wilkes' attempts to win contracts refused to let their names be used in this article. Some feared being drawn into the widening corruption investigation. Others worried they would jeopardize their jobs by making public comments."
"During his frequent trips to Washington, Wilkes rented a three-bedroom hospitality suite on the sixth or seventh floor of the Watergate Hotel, which adjoins the office complex made famous by the Nixon administration's political-spying scandal of the early 1970s. During Wilkes' stays at the Watergate, Monica Lewinsky, a key figure in the impeachment of President Clinton, lived there in a suite her family rented."
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/cunningham/20060528-9999-1n28poker.html
Oh what a tangle we weave...
I hope folks keep digging into Hookergate. Those 'poker players' need to pay back any taxpayer money spent on the parties, hookers, and limos. I would be interested in seeing who else comes up on the 'guest list.' No more limo rides for them; they need to start taking the subway and the bus.
Better yet, let's send my parents to D.C. to run the federal budget. There would be no credit cards left in the hands of politicians. None of them would be staying in five-star hotels anymore, no tax money would be used for any alcohol, everyone would be turning off the lights every time they leave a room, and using the office photocopier for personal use would be considered exactly what it is, stealing. Any defense contractor, etc. caught overcharging would get spanked, have to stand with their nose in the corner, mouths washed out with soap, and be grounded. All the money saved would go straight to paying down the national debt and schools.
BTW--I did not get punished like that. All it took for me to behave was the *threat* of getting punishments like that. ;-) Unfortunately, the threat of punishments does not seem to deter the folks in D.C. from misbehaving . . .
So many dishonest, corrupted politicians and supposed public servants, it boggles the mind. PJF and his dedicated Team have more than enough work to keep them busy for years, investigating the corruption and malfeasance. Has our government always been so dirty, or has it become much worse in the past few years? Bush seems to come from a line of dishonest people who have ended up in our government.
And, it is my hope that at least some of the deleted posts on this thread are from "Jan Fallon" and that that person has finally decided it is a bad idea to respond to the "troll" (or whatever it is), that has decided to post disruptive comments here.
If you read my last post, I am probably the reason "jan" left..I just noticed a few posts with that name. I made a comment, if I upset anyone I apologize.
Don't know why all the posts were deleted. Evidence of "fritz"?
Anyone that post an opposing view is "disruptive"? Go figure. So Jan slipped up and wrote "Fritz" like the "Evil" Troll. What's up with that? Jan should know now what she is dealing with here. This blog is filled with closed minded Left Wing Nuts.
MR. DOOM & GLOOM --- Former US vice-president Al Gore owned up to failing to get his climate change message across as a politician when he appeared at the Hay Festival.
In his first UK speech on the subject, Mr Gore promised to devote himself to the task of warning people about the impending "planetary emergency".
Will we see any target letters, indictments or press conferences? I'm probably safe to predict a big fat "NO" on that one. Will hopes of doom and gloom be dashed? I certainly hope so. It must be a living hell for the "doom & gloomers".
The indictment that wasn't
May 30, 2006 05:36 AM / FUBAR .
It has been 18 days since a liberal web site reported Karl Rove had been indicted and given 24 hours to get his affairs in order.
On May 13, controversial journalist Jason Leopold reported on Truthout.
The news spread through the liberal blogosphere like locusts. Journalists from major news organizations called sources but not one could confirm Leopold's story, which originally said Rove had just "24 hours" but was later amended to "24 business hours."
Truthout stood behind the story for a few days, then executive director Marc Ash, issued what he called a "partial apology" to readers for "getting ahead of the news cycle." That, so some, sounded like anothre way of saying "we speculated, gambled, and lost."
A couple of weeks ago, we were inclined to give Leopold and Truthout the benefit of the doubt but after 18 days and more than 80 "business hours," it is time to realize that the report of an indictment against Rove was probably just wishful thinking and the Truthout is out of truth on this one.
Jan deleted all her own comments by clicking on the little trash can icon. And in the future please click on "remove forever" to remove the post completely.
Good Morning Grandmanuk and others I hope you had a wonderfull holiday. Grandmanuk I ditto your comment I'm not going any where but here on this blog and say what I want to say. I value my freedoms and the liberties and the respect of others. This country was built with stronge Americans and that's what we have on this blog. So try as you may to bring us down it's not going to happen. We support Fitzgerald and his team and will stand with them as they fight the evil doers.
I lived in CA during those rolling black outs -- this was part of the 'grand design' to get then Gov Davis out of office; get a Repub in who is malleable [Schwarzenegger] .. if not for the blackouts which the residents knew where a scam, they would not have been so anxious to oust Davis.
One of many reasons to dislike, hate Bush ... he has a 'convenient' memory, a 'convenient' sense of religion [to invoke falsely as needed], a 'convenient' military record,
a 'convenient' recollection of the facts.
Just as Cheney -- his energy advisor in the WH.
ARE WE SICK ENOUGH OF THESE FOOLS TO GET THEM OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE YET?!
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