One Ringy Dingy...
Have I reached the party to whom I am speaking?
BIDEN: Let me very precise.
GONZALES: OK.
BIDEN: I have not heard of NSA saying to the Intelligence Committee, "We are binding ourselves as we engage in this activity under the minimization procedures of 12333, as well as other statutes." I'm unaware that that's written down or stated anywhere or been presented to the Intelligence Committee. Can you assure us that has been done?
GONZALES: No, sir, I can't assure you that.
BIDEN: Can you assure us, General, that you are fully, totally informed and confident that you know the absolute detail with which this program is being conducted? Can you assure us you personally can assure us that no one is being eavesdropped upon in the United States other than someone who has a communication that is emanating from foreign soil by a suspected terrorist, Al Qaida or otherwise?
GONZALES: Sir, I can't give you absolute assurance of the kind that you've asked for.
BIDEN: Who can?
GONZALES: OK.
BIDEN: I have not heard of NSA saying to the Intelligence Committee, "We are binding ourselves as we engage in this activity under the minimization procedures of 12333, as well as other statutes." I'm unaware that that's written down or stated anywhere or been presented to the Intelligence Committee. Can you assure us that has been done?
GONZALES: No, sir, I can't assure you that.
BIDEN: Can you assure us, General, that you are fully, totally informed and confident that you know the absolute detail with which this program is being conducted? Can you assure us you personally can assure us that no one is being eavesdropped upon in the United States other than someone who has a communication that is emanating from foreign soil by a suspected terrorist, Al Qaida or otherwise?
GONZALES: Sir, I can't give you absolute assurance of the kind that you've asked for.
BIDEN: Who can?
ERNESTINE: Here at the Phone Company we handle eighty-four billion calls a year. Serving everyone from presidents and kings to scum of the earth. (snort) We realize that every so often you can't get an operator, for no apparent reason your phone goes out of order [snatches plug out of switchboard], or perhaps you get charged for a call you didn't make or we listen to your calls. We don't care. Watch this [bangs on a switch panel like a cheap piano] just lost Peoria. (snort) You see, this phone system consists of a multibillion-dollar matrix of space-age technology that is so sophisticated, even we can't handle it. But that's your problem, isn't it? Next time you complain about your phone service, why don't you try using two Dixie cups with a string. We don't care. We don't have to. (snort) We're the Phone Company!
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 2/06/2006
9 Comments:
Specter credibility is ruined!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A LAUGHING STOCK OF CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!
If they can't even put Gonzales under oath, they're as good as useless shit aren't they?
I guess at this point it means they are all going to be thrown out, because pennsylvania has just gotten rid of its "own" voting problems and an insurrection against specter etc has begun.
Specter just permanently destroyed the GOP's name. We don't need no stinking oaths, after all, we lie with impunity.
Well then they can be lying from the other hand of the citizens insurrection, and have fun doing it!
We don't need no oaths since we're above the law: Spread the word and tackle Ohio until there's no neocons left.....
WE REALLY DON'T NEED OUR OATHS, DO WE CONGRESS??? THAT'S ALL NONSENSE! EVEN THE SHILLS LIKE LIEBERMAN, AND MCCONNELL SEEM TO THINK SO!
Patent absurdity?? What is the truth, who cares about that?
Somebody loan me a dime. I need to call my old time, used to be.
St. Brigid channeling Boz Scaggs
Just saw this....
This is what happened on C-SPAN...nobody but the neocons defended the wiretapping.
"I provide all caller comments below, in the order they were receive (every caller, but not every word of their comment, some reduced for brevity). AT THE VERY LEAST, read down to what the moderator felt he had to ask the Republican calling for impeachment.
R) "I'm a 57 year old veteran. I had top security clearance... I believe the political grandstanding should be taken behind closed session. This is almost seditious stuff that these guys are pulling off."
D) "I don’t believe that the administration should be able to circumvent the law. They said that people were informed in congress... They called these people in after it had leaked out... I'm against the war in Iraq... there is just so much corruption in this administration."
I) "I was working in Mayor Julliani's office... I was there when that terrible thing happened... this terrible situation is not lost upon me. My feeling is very very simple. I have a responsibility to my family, to myself, and to everybody that is going to follow us, to make sure that our constitution holds, and is never ever trodden upon and disregarded by anybody in this country... My defense of the Constitution is staunch and unwavering. And if I have to die, because of a terrorist act, then so be it so long as I die and American with all of my American Constitutional Rights in effect.... "
R) "I can say that this administration doesn’t resemble any Republican administrations in my memory. This has been the most secretive, underhanded administration that I know of in my study of history. And I would like to voice the sentiments of your prior caller. The US Constitution has come under attack repeatedly by this administration, and that’s more important, by the way, the President wants to say that his number one responsibility is to protect and defend the American people. That’s not what his oath is sir. His oath is to defend the Constitution. It is the Constitution which protects the people."
D) "I want to know why the attorney general wasn't required to testify under oath today.... because I guess I'm concerned he's not telling the truth... I do think they do us proud (senators) when they question the President. I don’t believe he has the right to do what he's doing... I lived through the Nixon era, I see a lot of similarities and it really scares me."
I) "I'm very concerned about the Attorney General. He was not truthful with the American people... This is a constitutional crisis my fellow Americans. This is a power grab by the on behalf of the Republicans. We need to stand up and impeach this administration."
R) "He should have been allowed to testify under oath. The administration is allowing him to lie to the general public. I do believe its time that we impeach the President, and a bunch of the others, these liars that are out there."
INTERESTINGLY, the moderator at this point asked the caller a question (the only time this happened):
"New York lemmie ask ya, you called in on the Republican line. Let me ask you, did you vote for George W. Bush?"
"Absolutely not."
D) Our Forefathers set forth in the Constitution a system of checks and balances... But here we hear that the President has "inherent powers" over and above Congress, over and above the Senate. No Sir, he does not. And when people say "yes, and think that this is ok", they don’t understand what they're giving up. You're giving up your Constitutional Rights."
R) "I don’t understand these callers for one thing. It seems like they're really protecting the terrorists. He (Bush) is a good man. He has done his utmost to protect the United States. The Democrats want to get up there and play politics and the people are buying into it. It’s a shame. My dad went to war in WWII and he fought for our country, not for the terrorists."
I) Everyone who says "they're not for the President, they're defending terrorism", that’s just totally wrong, I don’t understand where one goes with the other. We should wiretap and we should have surveillance, but we should be doing it under the law...why no do it?... If they had gone to FISA from the beginning or told congress, everything would be under the media (i.e. not being questioned)..."
D) "...I think that the President of the United States along with his cabinet members and all of the Republican Party should be ashamed of violating this surveillance program. I'm real proud of all the people who are speaking out against this. It truly is a very appalling situation."
R) "I must say that I support my President 100% in the fact that he's trying to protect us. I think that the more that you guys talk about this, and making this over the air, and you know, the more information that they have, the President should have just done this, and not told any of you, because the more that you say and the more that you talk you're just giving the enemy more and more info. You lambast this Gonzales, you forced him into telling them they don't open the mail. (Actually that was one of the several questions he So now they have another foothold. Now they can use our mail system."
Oh, that is priceless. Thanks for the chuckle Ernestine, er, Patrick J. Fitzgerald.
Good Morning, Folks!
Well, Specter certainly ruined the reputation of the GOP. Not putting Gonzales under oath is the wrong thing to do. Gonzales testimony (whether truth or lies) doesn't mean beans! This is certainly an embarrasment to the judicial system.
One side note: nice picture of Lilly Tomlin and a great comedian. I saw Lilly Tomlin's one woman show many moons ago.... That hearing for Gonzo was a joke. And Lilly Tomlin says: "And that's the truth!"
Like a cartoon of Mohammed openly visible on the face of the moon, the domestic spying issue and its illegality just can not be denied. The Bush Administration has become Monty Python in drag. "Wot, thot's naught mah arhm! Thot muss be sahmone else's ahrm."
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