Feb 6, 2006

AG Gonzalez Under Oath..?

This hearing is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.
Alberto Gonzalez is a lawyer, a patriot and our Attorney General and he would never lie to Congress. I trust him, don't you?
This morning, AP's headline reads "Gonzales to Answer Eavesdropping Questions."
Americablog has some biting commentary and questions for my boss and your AG at the Illegal Spying on Americans Hearings today:
"Hmm. He may "answer" the questions, but there's nothing to say his "answers" will be truthful. In fact, given the history of Gonzales testifying before Congress, it's safe to assume he will lie. And does anybody really think that the Bush Administration wasn't spying on their political enemies and the media?"
1. Attorney General Gonzales lied under oath to the US Senate last year about the Bush administration's spying-on-Americans program. Why did he perjure himself then, and why should we trust his testimony now?
2 Can Gonzales and the Bush administration guarantee that their eavesdropping never intentionally or unintentionally captured communications of American political opponents or US journalists?
3. If the Bush administration is so confident that it has the power under the constitution to continue spying on Americans, then will it let the FISA court review its domestic spying program in order to determine if the domestic spying is illegal or unconstitutional?

34 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still hoping for justice from the Department of Justice...even if it is missing at the top level.

Just found this tidbit on tracking changes to documents, and thought it might be of help to your investigators:

"By clicking on the "track changes" feature in Word, readers can see who wrote a particular document, when it was written, what edits were made and comments made by editors and redactors -- something government officials, working with official secrets, or confidential information, most definitely don't want released for review in the court of public opinion. By deleting text blocks -- used to blacken out information in PDF files -- readers can see what was originally written there. "

http://www.physorg.com/news10567.html

1:13 PM  
Anonymous CryptoKid said...

We at the NSA are currently monitoring this site, and reading all incoming and outgoing emails by all users who visit it.

We learned how through the "CryptoKids" program, the new NSA program "for kids".

1:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my God! That is too funny! So can we expect an Alec Baldwin type of character to try and murder an autistic boy (or very dumb politican) for breaking the code? I hope some maverick FBI agent or Special Prosecutor(aka Bruce Willis) will eventually win out over evil.

1:28 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

Well now Gonzo can legally lie because he's no under oath. Maybe the rest of the criminal process and go the same way. Thats how Bush likes it you can lie without using God. Now when the lie comes out you can't be proscuted. Oh by the way Col. Wilkerson/second to Mr. Powell admitted that the information to invade Iraq was a Hoax ( see rawstory) he stated this on PBS. Yes my bloggers of faith Powell lied to the UN. Yes Cheney was the man behind the lie. I just wonder what the other world leaders think of trust, honest and the word of our President. Plus the memo in England between Blair/Bush is real. Both planned the invasion way before 9/11 and long before the UN inspect was any where near done. But the media can't report that for nationial security reasons that being Americans can't know the truth. As for Gonzo well he'll have to answer to the highest power for lying about illegally spying on Americans.

1:35 PM  
Anonymous 6 Miles from the Corrupt Oval said...

PJF
We're getting more nauseous day after day after day with this
toilet bowl swirl this government keeps serving up . .

when are you taking them down.
we've just about had it with
this tyranny
the most evil Administration of our time
and this silly reading of email.

As far as my email. Have at it.My job supports the dern government you jackasses.

1:44 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

It is ironic that Gonzalez can say the easedropping is legal (and he is not under oath) yet the man who killed the sailors in 2003 is now challenging the goverment that his conversations may have been easedropped illegally. Also, I just heard yesterday on the news that there was a prison break in Yeman abd they can't find the prisoners. Many of them are Al-Qaeda terrorists. This is a pure mockery of the legal system demostrated by the Bush Administration.

2:03 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

Folks,

Bush revealed his 2007 budget. For those who further in education, this category was hitted as well as other areas that have decreased funds:

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Bush_budget_changes_2007_0206.html

2:10 PM  
Anonymous Up in Michigan said...

Can it even be called "testifying" if you're not under oath? (I'm not a lawyer - help me out here, PJ!) Maybe a better phrase would be "Gonzalez has conversation with Senate ..."

2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LUCILLA: Commodus, the senate has its uses.
COMMODUS: What uses? All they do is talk. It should be just ... you and me, and Rome.
LUCILLA: Don't even think it. There has always been a senate....
COMMODUS: Rome has changed. It takes an Emperor to rule an empire.
LUCILLA: Of course, but leave the people their....
COMMODUS: Illusions?.
LUCILLA: ...traditions.
COMMODUS: My father's war against the barbarians, he said it himself it achieved nothing. But people still loved him.
LUCILLA: People always love victories.
COMMODUS: But why? They don't see the battles? What do they care about Germania?
LUCILLA: They care about the greatness of Rome.
COMMODUS: The greatness of Rome? But what is that?
LUCILLA: It's an idea, greatness. Greatness is a vision.
COMMODUS: Exactly. A vision. Do you not see, Lucilla? I will give the people a vision of Rome and they will love me for it. They will soon forget the tedious sermonizing of a few dry old men. I will give them the greatest vision of their lives.

Just some food for thought.
Saint Brigid

2:23 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

Here is an interesting article from WSJ. Did you know that Abramoff and Enron are connected. check this out!

February 6, 2006, 8:07 am
Abramoff, Ralph Reed, and Enron: All Mentioned in the Same Email!
Posted by Peter Lattman
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports on a December 2000 e-mail from conservative lobbyist Ralph Reed to Enron’s top lobbyist Richard Shapiro urging him to hire up-and-coming lobbyist Jack Abramoff in order to establish a “kitchen cabinet” lobbying team. Here’s the reported e-mail, subject heading “abramoff”:
abramoff is arguably the most influential and effective gop lobbyist in congress. i share several clients with him and have yet to see him lose a battle. he also is very close to [then-House majority leader Tom] Delay and could help enormously on that front.
The AJC found the e-mail within tens of thousands of Enron documents available through the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission Web site. Enron went bankrupt a year after the e-mail was sent; Abramoff was indicted five years after the e-mail was sent.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/insider/stories/020606.html

2:30 PM  
Blogger bluewild said...

What's the point of this hearing/investigation if he can say anything he wants because he's not under oatn? The point is it LOOKS like they are doing something, that's waht.

6 miles,

Yesterday was the Super Bowl and now what's playing is the watching the Super Toilet Bowl. The rules are as follows: they play we lose.

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cute cartoon over in the comments at a Daily Kos thread on the actual 84 hour gap the WH had to clean their files.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/6/12248/27290

It shows a kid kneeling by the bed and saying his prayers, with the caption of "Dear God, please help Fitz to nail their lying, evil butts."

That's a prayer so many of us here hold as well!

2:38 PM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

I've been listening to the AG. Shows you what you get when cronyism gets you your job....and Mr. Prez, you get what you paid for

2:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think our AG's testimony boils down to this:

"Warrants? We ain't got no warrants. We don't need no warrants. I don't have to show you any stinkin' warrants!"


Saint Brigid

3:17 PM  
Anonymous flydog said...

Folks-

I've been lurking this blog for quite
awhile. I love it!! I, like many of you have doubts if this is the real
fitz and his associates blog. When I
saw PJF at the news conference re:
Scooter Libby, I was impressed with
Fitz's integrity, professionalism,
uprightness, honesty, and strict
adherence to the rule of law. When I
read this post from fitz, it strikes me that he would never call his boss
a liar on a public forum, and make
allegations against his boss on this post. It just seems a little out of character to me. What say you??

3:24 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

Monday is certainly a day full a surprises such as GOP Senators doesn't want Gonzalez under the oath and this new revelation in Newsweek. Bush certainly turned this country into the book of "1984." According to Newsweek, The Judge Dept. official suggested that in certain circumstances, Bush might have the power to order the killing of terrorist suspects inside the U.S. What does "certain circumstances" does that mean? Have no idea. This makes Bush's speech last week of the theme: democracy and freedom very much hypocritical and very scary:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11180519/site/newsweek/

3:26 PM  
Blogger Justitia said...

In the words of Yogi Berra: "It's deja vu all over again". What harm can the government cause its citizens when using its power, unchecked, in the name of national security?

Some food for thought:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1281281.html
[1991]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/14/AR2005121402528.html


http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0119-20.htm

3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope they don't suspect Fitz of being a terrorist!

3:41 PM  
Anonymous jodi said...

If this is the real Fitzgerald, do you really trust Gonzales?

4:03 PM  
Anonymous 6 Miles from the Corrupt Administration playing hijinx as usual said...

Blue and Up in Michigan
yepper. make it look like something is happening, we're addressing concerns of the stupid Americans..
but definitely don't have him under oath ... because that sure dern caught Libby and Rove and Cheney and Bushie in a little bit of an issue. Caught like a bee in the bonnet of PJF.

Well, let's ask the astute prosecutors Bil and PJF
? how can it be testify if, there is no 'under oath'?
AND furthermore
why should common man subject himself to 'under oath' if our
Cabinet will NOT subject itself to the same..
Oh, I get it. Their above the law.

Yes, just one more imbecilic American.

Can we outsource our government?

4:07 PM  
Anonymous Rajiv in India said...

Welcome to Sprint Customer Service and the NSA, how may I help you?

4:15 PM  
Anonymous 6 Miles from the Corrupt Oval said...

Rajiv
next time I get a traffic ticket, I need immunity from having to testify under oath.

Its apparent du rigour here ..
so, its cool with you, rightie?

Keep track if you will.. as I'm sure we've got some humoungous server farm there to house all these dern important emails and blog submissions.

Thanks Rajiv. Which post will you be taking?
President, King, or VP?

4:18 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

And you think all of us are subject to wiretapping. Even, Sylvester Stallone, actor who played "Rocky Balboa," was wiretapped illegally! Celebrities may be targeted too. A man was indicted for illegally wiretapping Stallone:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0206061pell1.html

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Rajiv said...

Well, India did operate more efficiently under the Queen's government so I choose to return to the empire, thank you very much.

4:24 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

FYI Bush is having an H Bomb build so the US will have the most powerfull weapon that no other country has. Yes he can take over the world now. Also Col. Wilkerson/second to Powell admitted on PBS that the all the information about Iraq was a hoax and yes Bush/Cheney knew it. Everything that Powell told the UN about Iraq and our spy planes was a big lie. The reason Gonzo didn't have to take the oath is when the lie is found out he can't be charged because he didn't take the oath. Remember all witness have to take the oath or afirm in a hearing for truth. Get it theres no truth in this hearing just say what ever if fools believe it Bush got over.

4:31 PM  
Blogger bluewild said...

They thought about this a long long time ago. They covered all their bases. Now they can silence their critics with murder because they are suspected of being "terrorists".

Argentina - mid 70's -Men come in the middle of the night with clubs, knock out all the lights - no witnesses, break into your home with force, threaten you with death if you make a sound, put the notorious black hood on you, and take you to an undisclosed and unknown location where you may possibly be "disappeared" forever. After you are "legally" tortured, I mean, questioned. YOu talk you're dead, You don't talk, you're dead. Poof, gone, diappeared. Quite a magic act.

Negroponte knows about this technique /method as it was employed alot in Latin America, and is most likely being used right now in other parts of the world such as, well...take a guess. By the way, when this happened in Latin America, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Argentina, Chile, etc... most of the victims were not terrorists but civilians who were speaking out against the fascism of their governments and so were labeled "communists" and "terrorists". I hope we are not headed in that direction....

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Preznit Bush said...

If you aren't fur us, you are agin us!

4:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fitz, you "trust him?" Trust him to lie?

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fitzy,

Will this committee call your pal Comey to testify? Boy, I'd pay top dollar to see that Gonzo Smackdown on PPV.

I can dream, can't I?
St. Bridie

7:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well since this is the real Fitzgerald you're damn right he doesn't trust this idiot....

Nobody does, look at these farcical hearings which do nothing but destroy the GOP

Gonzales lied with impunity, there's no point to the fucking hearings is there?

Appoint the special counsel now...

And Fitz, if the NSA really comes here tell 'em to trace the neocons like lori neuer be nice to know where they're at eh? All the bastards need to be taken down.......and move in the dark swiftly.

Ohio democracy in action?

7:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Anon in Ohio:

Montgomery County election fixers are pikers compared to Hamilton County. Speaking from personal experience and all.

Who ya gonna call? VoteBusters!
Saint Brigid

8:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's the shadow votebusters with a capital V, oh yeah to the T, on the C...."Fitzgerald shadow team"


When there's something bad,
And it don't look good...

WHO YOU GONNA CALL?

"VOTE BUSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!"

When there's some neocon fascist,
In the neighbor-hoooooood...

WHO YOU GONNA CALL?

"VOTE BUSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!"

Du nu du nu du nu nunununu, du nu du nu du nu nununu DU NU NU DU NU NUNUNUNU!!!!!

"WHO YA GONNA CALL???"

"VOTE BUSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"For the freedom of every working and upright american."


-roy

8:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I ain't afraid of no VOTE!!!!!!"

It fit with the mood....

9:04 PM  
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