Loosen Your Drag...
History will absolve Wayne Madsen and other hard charging journalists, but for now I have caught the smaller fish and am using him to catch a real lunker - if I strike too soon the hook won't set.
Remember, a fish rots from the head and Official "A" stands for a**.
Remember, a fish rots from the head and Official "A" stands for a**.
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 5/20/2006
135 Comments:
Rove is "A" slimy one at that!
Scooter is claiming a loss of memory; one that is horribly convenient..dontcha think?
As for history 'making' -- we're in the thick of it.
As for the naive reporter 'Specter'
WHERE YA BEEN PAL?
Playing catch-up? Read the archives, you might learn something.
Oh thats right.. you're one of the 'hard charging' investigative reporters eating the pablum served out by any, any local, state, government, congressional individual.
Repugnant. The media make us ill..
they're just part of the
SPIN spewing out from every orifice of government ....
Dont overlook the possibility of this...it felt to me like someone maybe was 'playing' with some of this all week. Excerpt from the Madsen link.
"Meanwhile, a jovial Rove and an even cockier Rove spokesman reveled in the mini-media storm they helped to create -- Rovian manipulation at its best."
SPB and ALL:
I also just got a nice note from Jason Leopold.
The fact is, we don't have an answer - ANY answer - yet from the GJ. That does NOT mean there is no Bill of Indictment. There may be one and it remains sealed. It may be sealed and legal negotiations may be happening.
We don't know this, but it doesn't mean that nothing is happening.
I think we are all wanting this to happen so badly that we're anxious to rush this process. But if rushing could cause some error, or allow someone to slip the noose, I'm all for Fitz and his team to take their time!
The waiting is hard, but I still believe in the legal system and the grand jury process.
If Rove's Attorney, Luskin, is now a "subject" in this investigation, (as previously stated in a post on this blog), this may have caused a delay, due to Luskin possibly being replaced.
Just a thought...
Basheert, I believe in the legal system too. But there is more than one law on the books to put these characters out of our misery.
The laws Fitz is using to prosecute is Plan A-if the henchmen fail to submit to the law, that leaves us with Plan B. An ugly, messy option-sure to cause chaos, but an option (and lawful one at that) all the same.
At this point, as long as removal is THE ultimate goal and it is a lawful removal-I am all for it.
I just hope the removal doesn't come first, while the trial to prove the lawfulness of "an action" the latter.
WMR was also told by a credible source that part of the reason for Fitzgerald's visit to Patton and Boggs was to inform Rove attorney Luskin that he has moved into the category of a "subject" of the special prosecutor's investigation as a result of a conversation with Time reporter Viveca Novak, in which Novak told Luskin that Rove was a source for Time's Matt Cooper. The special prosecutor, who has prosecuted one defense attorney in the Hollinger case, is reportedly investigating whether Luskin, as an officer of the court, may have violated laws on obstruction of justice.
(Is Wayne Insane?-- May 18)
Well said, 6 miles.
Bush, Cheney, Rove, Scooter, and so on.... are either narcissists or BDPs, probably both....best to think OPPOSITE of everything they do and say. Rove is the like the young Bush doing his 'slap happy' routine for Babs Bush in his younger years trying to keep Momma happy when Poppy was galloping around the globe.
Dig and find the real Rove, people don't fear this bastard for no reason. That is the true Rove...it is not for 'public' eyes.
The MSM have been lying down so long with these dogs of BushCo. they have now picked up their fleas.....
I like fishing. You are right about waiting it always pays off. But these guys are sweating and making mistakes. Rove will now see just what his friend George and George's family think of him. As for Cheney will like the fish story there is another big fish looking to take down Cheney. Now to the little soldier well he's on his own with this one.
Those who have had experience in dealing with criminal investigations involving multiple targets and potential targets understand how plans can change due to a development with a key witness or target. Keep doing your job, Fitz. We know your work is first rate and that, as a result, the last scene where "the fat lady sings" is going to be one hell of a show.
And sometimes much to the dispair of more victims, an over abundance of caution used as an approach, despite ovewhelming prima facia evidence- usually fails to justifiy such overcaution when a more immediate solution can be justified and still considered cautious.
... and the beat goes on. The truth is no one knows that presently post on this blog. Not even the faux Patrick Fitzgerald.
WMR is real MSM with their sources.
Real professional.
No cmmments, why not go to CNN?
I am confused by all of this about the indictments. Starting with Truthout.org and carrying over to here it appears that no one knows what they are talking about with any certainty. All of these rationales for why things may be delayed goes without saying even if nothing had been announced anywhere so I am not sure what benefit these blogs have other than giving people unnecessary false hope.
Also, why the necessity to "rush to press" on a story that if it unfolds the way people hope will be with us for years and will have significant impact across all media?
I also have some problem with faux blogs as to what purpose they serve. It seems a weak way to gather meaningful focus on a very important subject. If it is just to get likeminded people together to have a place to meet and chat that could be done without the deception. Can someone explain the significance to me? I am not slamming or trolling the site or the bloggers just curious. I have seen some other faux blogs and they are equally puzzling. They are either inside jokes or some kind of fan sites.
RE: This blog
Most of us here are participants because we like to discuss this case and all of its tendrils, and try and get more of a feel for the legal way things are done.
It is also a place to vent and is more focused than HuffPo, which covers a variety of alternative news topics and MSM topics (aka fluff).
It is also very convenient because explanations are provided on legal maneuvering and everything is centrally located.
We also seem to like each other - and many of us choose to believe that our legal system will still work and like all humans, we congregate with similar interest.
I still believe Jason L and W Madsen will be proven right.
Again, just because WE don't know doesn't mean the process isn't working. Unlike during the Watergate era, we now have an opportunity to come together and just talk about it.
Now for being "faux", if it truly IS a fake blog, WHY hasn't it been shut down? If I was PJF and someone was using my name and pics and disseminating general info and I didn't like it, I'd stop it.
So - who is running this blog? Whether PJF is truly personally involved - OR is his staff partially responsible? Who cares?
We're having fun (hey how many blogs have ON LINE BBQ's????) - we all share a common hope...
hasn't Bush divided all of us enough?
Democratus. This blog is a disinformation front created by the Mossad and funded by the Waltons through a secret bank account in Djbouti. The operator of it is the virulent neocon William Hung who ranks so high in The New World Order that he is only discussed in halting whispers, if ever.
To everybody and Grandmanuk too.
My daughter voted here in California and the machines have a print copy with the machines. Nice. So for the Rove voter crooks now there is a copy to check against the machine. As for me I mail in my vote can't see in the booth as I get fustracted waiting and asking questions.
Dodgone I know you can't vote your we apprecate your support.
Basheert When the court seals an indictment it's only to allow the parties to see if they can work something out. Usually it's done to give the defendent time and not make it known to the public. Remember the girls name in the Kobe Bryant case had her name sealed my the record to protect her from the public. Rove is indicted but the media can't legally publish it until the court unseals the record.
Remember, a fish rots from the head and Official "A" stands for a**.
Very coy and clever way of saying "Rove is an ass." Right on!
Law is neither Science nor Art but a Dead Language in this New Era.
To the people questioning the validity, benefit, or purpose of this blog: We don't need to justify this blog to anybody. We like it. If somebody don't like it they do not have to.
D
That's right, Anonymous 6:29 :D
we've weeded out the rotten trolls before...
no sweat.
"we've weeded out the rotten trolls before..."
So, if someone stumbles on this site and asks a few pointed questions they are labeled a "rotten troll" despite the fact that I stated I wasn't doing that just to avoid any confusion?
Sheesh, kind of a hostile bunch aren't you?
Democratus,
I thought you asked good questions. I am sorry you were called a that name. "We" like this blog and maybe are a little touchy and protective of it. I hope you will enjoy it too.
Fitz,I think you are better at fishing than Cheney is at hunting.
D
Time is on my side, yes it is
Time is on my side, yes it is
Now you always say
That you want to be free
But you'll come running back (said you would baby)
You'll come running back (I said so many times before)
You'll come running back to me
Oh, time is on my side, yes it is
Time is on my side, yes it is
You're searching for good times
But just wait and see
You'll come running back (I won't have to worry no more)
You'll come running back (spend the rest of my life with you, baby)
You'll come running back to me
Go ahead, go ahead and light up the town
And baby, do everything your heart desires
Remember, I'll always be around
And I know, I know
Like I told you so many times before
You're gonna come back, baby
cause I know
You're gonna come back knocking
Yeah, knocking right on my door
Charles I will bring the Tequila and chips.
I will also bring skewers for the vodoo pork doll.
Bacon roasting on an open fire...
All are giddy with drunken delight.
This blog has one GIANT smile on its face.
Democratus. Just occasionally tell Fitz that he's cute and mother him a little now and then and you'll be fine here.
It appears that the open minded bloggers that inhabit this blog don't have much tolerance for anyone that might offer a differing opinion or who might question the validity of this faux Patrick Fitzgerald site. I'm sure Fitz would like to hear the opinions of more than the ass kissers that reside here. Long live the "rotten trolls".
democratus:
I didn't call you a rotten troll either - your pointed questions are, of course, welcome.
Bear in mind of course, that again, most of us are here because we want to be - and no we don't have to justify anything to anyone.
So far, Cheney and Bush have not managed to completely pervert every part of our functional system. They may think they have a lock on the Supremes, but they don't have a lock on individual jury decisions. People tend to get very civic minded when they serve on a jury, particularly a federal grand jury. It brings out the "doing the absolute right thing" that is in most of us.
So we are all together here - waiting for some positive news - and I think we'll get it. Sure we may have to wait, but bear in mind, it's a lot worse for those who "dangle" than those who watch.
And it just gives Dick Cheney more time to harden into a giant pile of calcific plaque. The good news is that he will NEVER get to enjoy all the money he is stealing from our country - he's going to die first. He is permanently diseased and he knows it.
As for Bush, his ego is extremely important. He is known to have a nasty temper, he is a hothead - he lies, disseminates, and he undoubtedly does a fair amount of drugs and alcohol. In essence he's a loose cannon. And he's going to be judged harshly in historic retrospectives, a fact that will make him even more insane than he already is. He will die a nasty, lonely man with no friends and no loyalty. When his power goes, he goes....he is no longer useful to his handlers.
The rest are tiny little footnotes in our history.
That is why we are here. We are going to watch the end of the Bush Era. All are welcome, but if you don't want to participate, it's still a free country. Allow us our fun.
Got perch?
Time is running out if the "Righteous" are going to clean house at the Whitehouse. Only 2 and one half years to go. Even Libby's trial isn't until January '07. You will never get it done at that rate. Predictions of Target Letters and Black Fridays for Neocons that never happen just won't get it done either.
anonymous @8:18pm
I think you are mistaken. The fact is, you cannot prove this is NOT Fitz's blog, and you actually don't know what we really think.
You still haven't provided us with any indication as why (if this blog is NOT with PJF's knowledge), either PJF or the DOJ hasn't shut it down?
We do not trust the MSM (as a lot of people are now seeing). Our news is sanitized and our MSM has decided to not actually "report" the news, but to become the story themselves.
I don't believe anyone on this blog believes George Bush and Dick Cheney deserve their offices. We're simply hanging out here, having a Sat nite BBQ, sharing stories about the good old days - and looking towards a brighter future.
So now I'd like to ask - why is it so important to YOU to rain on our picnic? What are we doing to YOU? I can tell you don't agree with us....so, why are you here?
Sorry, I'll hang here. There's too much at stake to trust CNN, and FauX News. They won't tell the truth anyway.
"democratus...who said "rotten" troll?"
Well, for the record, Lois Lane.
I don't know any of you folks so it is hard to tell who is kidding or who isn't. I don't plan on posting a lot so no worries. I will just read. Thanks.
democratus:
you'll catch on as to who is who ... this is not an "attack" blog as a rule. It's more of a support group for people who really do CARE about the future of their Republic.
By the way, what are you bringing to our Web Bar-B-Q? I'm bringing buffalo steaks and Home Fries.
And the pool is now officially 85 degrees, so jump right on in!!!
:::::::... and the beat goes on. The truth is no one knows that presently post on this blog. Not even the faux Patrick Fitzgerald.:::::::::
No one-(at least those who have been posting for a while here) proposes to know--we only hope.
The fact is that INTERNET Media people here jumped the gun here and created all this speculation FOR PERSONAL/WEBSITE GLORY.
Now that it did not happened yet,they are in spin control.They may end up being correct,but i for one will look at their reports much more carefully--with a grain of salt.
This time,for sure the MSM looks very professional.Imagine if one of the biggies had tried to SCOOP THIS?
Let the Pug(ie fighter) and his team do their job.He's seems to have this guy by the shorthairs.Its ROVES move.
SP FITZ and team are to professional to get dragged into this.They have been very sucessful in their cases.People in the opposing camp are just waiting for some wrong info to jump on---
SP FITZ is just giving hints--he is saying "EVERYTHING'S ON TRACK" but i have some bigger fish to catch. That should be enough.
BYE the way PAT-RICK--When Fishing/ trolling for big Sharks,using a smaller catch,you have to use a bigger hook--spread/dump a lot of smelly,stinky,rotten chum(seems you have that in hand) behind your boat and prepare for a long tug of war.
When you catch him/her/it-try and turn your catch around and drag it backwards getting H2O in its gills.Use a bang stick not a $22,000 Shotgun and no JAMESION'S before you use the weapon.You have friends on your ship
You have a great week.
Some of your fellow bloggers use this site as a reference on other sites. They use the information posted here as though it were fact and coming straight from Fitzgerald. If it were coming straight from Fitzgerald why would he allow the vulgarity of some and the disinformation from others? This latest incident with Mr. Leopold is just one so called insider's information that has proven to be wrong. Why would Patrick allow faux news to be posted here if it wasn't a faux site? All the name calling and rude nicknames for public officials makes it hard to take any of your information as serious.
It is obvious that Fitzgerald's case has now moved from the origial charges of outing a CIA agent to trying to find if anyone lied and pursue perjury charges. With all the testimony that Rove has given I'm sure if he searches hard enough Fitzgerald can find some inconsistencies. I'm sure an indictment will come if at all possible. Even if Rove does get indicted now, Leopold's scoop has no legs. All of the contents of Leopold's scoop is being denied and even the Faux Fitzgerald that resides here will not simply say, "yes" there was a meeting and Jason was accurate. Go Figure.
Anonymous @ 8:37,
Go to Rush's sight or Ann Coulter's. There are places you can go where you will find info and people you agree with. This is our place. This is America. Let us be free to speak.
"rude nicknames for public officials"
Spit, we are only just beginning...
You think these are bad names, wait until the press conference...
She told me Mr. Fitzmass is sitting ‘in the wings ready to open his suitcase’ and she just wanted me to know that he is being protected to the maximum in all kinds of magical ways and this protection is far beyond what anyone can comprehend and he will get the job done! GO FITZ GO!
That's simple too.
This is not the ONLY blog that calls Bush a Chimp, Chimpy McFlightsuit, and other names that I won't even use. It is a gauge of the little respect and credibility these despots currently retain.
Our Administration is disrespected by 71% of the people. (We think they're polling the cemetaries and mental institutions for the 29% pro votes).
You are welcome to put your faith into the MSM. You are welcome to your own opinions. But by the same token, be aware that many of the blogs do NOT like or support George Bush. Again, we now can come together in cyberspace and support each other. We are NOT at the mercy of the FAUX news crop who are in bed with the WH and disseminating incorrect news and in fact, "NO" news at all.
It was amazing that none of the MSM ran the story when Delay resigned 2 weeks ago. The AP picked it up - my local paper BURIED it (I had to search to find it on page 10). To me, that was a HUGE story - but I have the misfortune to live in a red state. So I am not entitled to actual news I guess.
We were lied to, all of us - to start a war. This creature is killing our wives, husbands and children - because he wants to play "Battleship" with real blood.
He is a sick man, as is Cheney and Rummy. Many Americans now see this...and see him for "what" he is and is not. He's a JOKE. But he's a dangerous joke.
Two and a half years to go - God Help My Country.
What Press Conference? The one that has been predicted for the past 3 weeks? The non existent Press Conference that everyone was waiting with bated breath for this past Friday? The ones predicted before that that never happened. Target letters, indictments, wishful thinking and dreams that are yet to come true. It must be hell living in your world waiting for promises never kept.
oh C-H-A-R-L-E-S!!!
Buffalo steaks and home fries.
Not political...just yummy!!
Anonymous @ 8:45,
indictments are not just about blowjobs this time around. Pass the potatoes please :)
It is also hell fighting for a lie...
"Two and a half years to go - " ... You did get that part right.
anonymous @8:56p
Do you not understand the GJ system? Do you not understand that the GJ is not on a timeframe? Do you not understand that a Prosecutor requests an indictment and a GJ votes on it? Do you not understand that if it is given, it is often SEALED?
Do you not understand that this GJ will respond in some way? Do you not understand that there WILL be an answer?
Do you not understand that an indictment is not a difficult thing to obtain?
Do you not understand that perjury and obstruction of justice are prosecutable offenses, no matter when they occur?
There WILL be a press conference. There will be either an Indictment or a No Bill.
But there WILL BE AN ANSWER. This GJ has sat for many months - it issued an Indictment for Libby (or will you dispute that). They are still in session (2 days a week) and undoubtedly there will be more to come down the road before they are through.
You are welcome to leave now...since you don't seem to understand that denying a legal process will not halt it. The Press Conference is incidental. The Indictment is what will count...and "who" gets them.
Any need anything from the bar?
Oh my, is that Hearless Dick with a gun?
Boy this salsa is delicious
GJ hmmmmmm
2% for Bush...
Also known as "Tar Babies"
Sticky, sticky...
Thanks bronzedome. I brought it from Austin.
A lot of journalists such as WMR are going to get lengths to try to be the first to get the scoop of Rove's indictment.. Now WMR is getting the same public scunity as Truthout.org. But, Leopold is standing behind his story. But, I think that the only website that is more closer to this case is Firedoglake because they have Christy whom work and know Fitz. And being an attorney does work into Christy's favor when she writes for Firedoglake... Fitz, you may gotten the small fish but if he could squeeze big fish Official A for pertinent info to bring down big fish Official A+ (Dead Eye Dick) and Official A- (I am assuming Hadley/Badly) then we can bring down the main Fisherman on the food chain which I call "Official G" (King Gerbil)!
I have the feeling that it will be like a dominoes effect and after one falls down ALL will follow. Lets Hope for that. Soon I hope before is too late!
basheert, I don't deny anything you said. What I do know is that no one here knows either. Jason Leopold has proven that and the gullible here have followed him like sheep. I do know that the faux Fitzgerald here doesn't know either. Yes, the old saying goes you can indict a ham sandwich but a conviction is a little bit harder to obtain. I do know that lots of times the defendant gets caught up in perjury charges even though the original charges could not be proved. Bill Clinton was fined $25,000 and lost his law license for 5 years because he perjured himself not because he got a BJ in the Oval office with an Intern intrusted to his supervision. Yes, I understand a lot more than you seem willing to give me credit for.
Jan the salsa is so tasty...
Dipping my perch in the soy...
Anon, we give you credit.
We/all are happily waiting for the BushCo repugnick to go down.
Meanwhile we relish in the thought of Rove twisting and turning under the black lights.
We need to pack some of this up and send it to PJF's office.
You are dreaming. Libby, Rove, Cheney and Bush will do just fine. I doubt anyone will go under the lights. When the dust settles Fitzgerald will have spent a whole lot of time and money with very little results.
Time will tell...
That one about Tom Delay resigning sure got buried for sure. I didn't know it happened and can't find any reference for it. Did you get that info from Jason Leopold? He is supposed to resign in June.
Take a break and watch the singer I brought to the feed tonight!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4CBQAdbXE2Q&search=blazing%20saddles
Just as I thought, more misinformation. June 9th is the day that Delay will resign.
The Honorable J. Dennis Hastert
Speaker
U.S. House of Representatives
The Capitol Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Dear Mr. Speaker:
It has been a great privilege, a high honor, and one of my most treasured personal pleasures to have served with you and our colleagues in the U.S. House of Representatives for more than twenty-one years. You have been a stellar example for our nation of personal courage and steadfast conviction, and I thank you for your leadership of this great institution as well as for your personal friendship.
As you are aware, I have recently made the decision to pursue new opportunities to engage in the important cultural and political battles of our day from an arena outside of the U.S. House of Representatives. As a result, I am informing you of my intention to formally resign as the representative of the 22nd Congressional District of Texas to be effective at the close of business on June 9, 2006.
May God continue to bless you, the President, this great institution and its Members, and our nation.
Sincerely,
Tom DeLay
Member of Congress
Re: Tom Delay's resignation (I believe it is effective 6/9/06). Muckraker broke it first but the AP carried it as well so it did hit the MSM...I'll go see if I can find a legitimate link ok?
Re: Anonymous who believes Bush and Cheney will be ok! You just keep on having those sweet dreams darlin' because you're obviously smoking the same "shit" that Bush is.
OOPS sorry - it was RawStory but was also carried by the AP where the MSM picked it up...here is a link. It was in many papers but the major networks ignored it.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/DeLay_notifies_Speaker_of_House_he_0511.html
Here's a little spice to put on your salsa for the Bar-B-Q!!!
Read it for a good laugh:
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/14622000.htm
basheert, it has been common knowledge that Delay would resign in June. You need to get out more.
basheert said, "It was amazing that none of the MSM ran the story when Delay resigned 2 weeks ago. The AP picked it up - my local paper BURIED it (I had to search to find it on page 10). To me, that was a HUGE story - but I have the misfortune to live in a red state. So I am not entitled to actual news I guess."
I'm sure the MSM will be there on June 9th and it will be all over the 6 o'clock news. You guys here seem to want instant gratification.
Oh grow up.
I simply said that NONE of the MSM carried the story when he submitted his resignation. It was a legitimate story when that resignation was submitted.
"Common knowledge" is NOT a news story. The submission WAS a story...fortunately other alternate news sources carried the info.
If you choose to bury your head in the sand that is your choice. Personally I prefer my politicians to not be dry drunks and substance abusers.
Now - go play somewhere else and let us enjoy our bar-B-Q?
Pass the banana margaritas please?
Well, well, well.. Guess who is key witness in the leak case:
Paper: Powell aide is key witness in CIA outing probe
'Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage has emerged as a key witness in the CIA leak probe, the NEW YORK DAILY NEWS' Ken Bazinet and James Meek report in Saturday editions."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Paper_Powell_aide_key_witness_in_0520.html
It will be initersting to know what indirect information that he knows of the major players involved directly in the case. Looks bad for Rove and the little soldier. And Dead Eye Dick needs to take NO DOZ. The little soldier should have taken the plea bargain.. He missed the boat!!! And Fitz, watch for Cheney having a medical defense....
"dry drunks and substance abusers". Is that sort of like a guy that smokes the "weed" but doesn't inhale?
SPB
Cheney's carotid arteries are concrete!
One way or the other, Cheney will never get to spend all that money. The joke's on him!
Jethro, take down the fiddle and play "Cry Me A River".
"dry drunks and substance abusers"...
to quote many many others that feel like you..
but..but..but Clinton.
This isn't about Clinton - it's about Bush, a known alcoholic and substance abuser. Most physicians recognize his behaviors...they see it every day in Trauma Rooms and ER's all over the country.
His brain is scrambled, his actions are "inappropriate", his head bobbing and incoherent speech are indicators of long term substance abuse. He giggles inappropriately and speaks with a fake accent. He jerks spasmodically and appears to space out when speaking. (Perhaps that is just Rove removing his hand???)
All of these behaviors are pretty obvious to medical professionals who see cheap drunks, crank and crackheads, and meth users on a daily basis.
I doubt he knows who he is. His brain is fried. His problem, not mine.
Basheert!
Cheney can't spend all of that money while in prison. And he is still on borrowed time. Cheney may appear strong. But there is probably somebody in the wind waiting for Cheney to crumble so that person can be bigger than Cheney's wealth and Halliburton.. all in the name of business!
In the news:
This is why the Gerbil is yearning for the bottle often:
Americans don't like President Bush personally much anymore, either
"Six public polls in recent weeks showed the opposite of Rove's account - that Bush's personal approval ratings have dropped since he was re-elected in 2004:
-A recent Gallup poll for USA Today showed that 39 percent had a favorable opinion of Bush, while 60 percent had an unfavorable opinion. In mid-November 2004, 60 percent had a favorable opinion and 39 percent unfavorable.
-Pollster John Zogby found 42 percent with a favorable opinion and 55 percent unfavorable. In November 2004, it was 58 percent favorable, 40 percent unfavorable.
-A poll for CBS and the New York Times showed that 29 percent had a favorable opinion of Bush, while 55 percent had an unfavorable opinion.
"The president's public perception problem is not only about his dismal job performance, but also his striking lack of personal favorability," said Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg.
Personal favorability can encompass many things in the minds of voters: character, respect, warmth, kinship, even whether a voter would want to have a beer with a politician. Or in the case of the teetotaling Bush, a soda.
Bush has lost ground on most of those measures.
Gallup, for example, found drops in the number of people who think that Bush is honest and trustworthy, that he shares their values and that he cares about people like them. "
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=6939
Poor Gerbil, people don't like him anymore.. Gee, I wonder why???
Put me down for mustard potato salad and chocolate chip cookies.
I'm going to put my money on the probability that the cowards all flipped over on A- and A+. The naysayers don't must only read American papers. Of course they could be indicted by press clippings alone and much of the Libby discovery was just that.
Only thing is if Fitz thinks the coverup was the worst of the crime, he wouldn't be going far enough. There is plenty of press for far worse charges than obstruction or perjury.
Anyone posting here already knows that-I just wonder how much longer it can possibly be until they are allowed to do total and complete irrepairble harm to the US and who knows who else, until they are charged and stopped.
Maybe they are sweating-but nervous nellies do some really crazy unpredictable stuff. Anyone who has worked with criminals knows that.
SPB
Well yesterday, Bush stated we still like him, we're just "unsettled" over the War.
Boy is he gonna be surprised!
As for Cheney, you need to trust me on this...his vascular disease is a killer. His bilateral popliteal surgeries said a lot for his condition. He's got a really bad case of CAD and he's gonna die from it.
Sort of like rotting from the inside out.
Suprise, Suprise. Bush can't run again for President. For such a dopey guy he sure has lead the Democrats around by their noses. He is accused of being the smartest man in the world knowing there were no WMD in Iraq when everyone else thought there was. Only Bush knew there were no WMD but he managed to fool Congress into voting for war with Iraq.
Basheert,
Oddly enough, I like hearing that kind of finite news on the old devil.
SBP, great posts as usual. How do you think Jason will make out in the end?
Scooter is so grasping at straws when I read though the latest discovery request-why not just plea? Or did Fitz say no deal?
T:
As far as Jason, when Fitz makes his announcment of the indictment of Rove, many of the naysayer of the media owe Jason and Truthout.org an apology. Yes, Jason jumped the gun too soon but he story is the truth.. I emailed Jason that he will get apologies from the naysayers... And he will be recognize as the journalist eho broke the stpry about Rove's indictment. So, I am not worry about Jason.
As far as the little soldier, he was too confident (and thanks to his attorneys whispering in his ear) and he felt that he would get off on the charges... But, he wasn't smart enough to know that Fitz had more information that implicated the other key players in this case. Now, do I think Libby asked for a plea bargain in the beginning? No... Now, if Libby ask for a plea bargain now, the question is what can he bring to the table of evidence against Rove and Cheney??? I think it is too little too late for the little soldier. And I for one wouldn't give the little turd no deal! The little soldier better pandhandle help from the Gerbil...
Grandmauk,
You don't need ask the question if Porkrind and the Gerbil are on crack. They have always been on crack. The Gerbil mixed that with his booze!!! And you will see more bizarre and retarded antics from the Gerbil when Fitz indicts Cheney. He got Porkrind. I am telling you that the Gerbil will be lost in this world with moneybags and his brain out of the picture. The Gerbil will be the person wandering this earth with no means of support as he is yearning for the bottle.. Pay back is a bitch for sure..
*****Calling for Patrick Fitzgerald*******
We need another posting!!! The comments are getting long!!!
Gracias!!!
Please Fitz do SOMETHING before we all get blown up! 700 ton bomb due to fall in Nevada May 28th for testing?
"W" House Bloody Mary
2 Shots American Blood
1 Shot Vodka
Seasoned with "Redneck Mafia" lies,thievery,corruption,torture,
and hired "hits" on potential whistleblowers....
Need any foil? You know I got plenty!
Kathleen! Bring the Havlah and Manischewitz!
Anon at 10:34:
I say KABOOM!
What in the hell do you expect Fitz to do about it?
Jesus Christ some of you people are really pathetic.
What do you think he is, SUPERMAN?
Grandmanuk:
Well, that true to an extent.. A parent will only take of their child. That is what it supposed to be. However, don't be too sure about the relationship with the Gerbil and Daddy... Remember, Daddy has some secrets too. and I am sure that the Daddy wouldn't want the Gerbil (drunk or not) to tell his dirty laundry. Pople do strange things.. But, no of us live in that part of that world. And when it comes to money, it is cut throat rather you are family or not. There is a lot of deals in which Daddy and the entire Bush family have made before, during, and after the Gerbil's terms in office... So, I agree that the parent/child issue.. But, we are talking aboyt a very dyfunctional Bush family. And The Gerbil has always been looking for his father approval and a pat on the back from Daddy!! I am very sure that author Kitty Kelley will come out with another book between the relationship between the Gerbil and Daddy...
My husband is out of town and I need the HOSE real bad!
Little frogs make nice bait for fish even faux perch.
CountrySunshine:
Irish coffee?? You know I never had Irish coffee. Would like to try that. But, I had Irish beer.. A friend and I went to San Diego, CA a couple of years back and had Irish beer.. There is a pub downtown in San Diego that is owned by a guy who was born and raised in Ireland. And the whole pub looks a pub in Ireland (never been to Ireland but have friend originally. It is a beautiful country)... Very interesting...
I'm bringing rhubarb/strawberry pie.
- Why can't the trolls have their own blog?
D
Hi Grandmanuk we do need another post. Interesting reading with these comments but some are over the top. Nothing seems to be going right for the Gerbil and friends. I like reading this blog because it helps me to keep up to date on what's happening. I get so tired of wearing my glasses to read. Even this word verification is messing me up I always hope to get the big letters.
LOL! But let's bag the trolls and not the snipes! hehe
I got the hose and I'm ready to get it on Nora.
Well, what would we do with a bag full of trolls?
My dad and brothers took some city guys "snipe hunting" once! LOL! Too funny!
""""Suprise, Suprise. Bush can't run again for President. For such a dopey guy he sure has lead the Democrats around by their noses.""""
Suprise--you want a suprise -here it is--as low as Bush Polled LOWER only Hillary Clinton on the Demo side polled higher then Bush.Gore and Kerry polled lower.from ALTERNET---Mss Miller etc
""""They clearly aren't buying "John Kerry" or "Al Gore" at this point. A recent New York Times poll has both of them ranking below the worst president in history. Kerry is at 26 percent, and former vice president and presidential candidate Gore is at 28 percent. George W. Bush is pulling in at 31 percent."""
There are a lot of numbers in the recent poll that would normally give me cause for joy -- the public hates everything about Bush. Only 13 percent think he's done a good job addressing rising gas prices.
If it was one on one--then the 2 demos combined might out poll him--but that is sad.
"Anonymous said...
Please Fitz do SOMETHING before we all get blown up! 700 ton bomb due to fall in Nevada May 28th for testing?
10:34 PM"
I checked around and it looks like May 28th is a protest day, the scheduled day is June 2nd, although it looks like it got pushed back to June 23rd.
This is out of Fitz's jurisdiction! The way to STOP something like that is if ALL of us contact our folks in Congress and tell THEM to stop it. The folks in Congress have an electronic contact system off the Web sites. Here:
"http://www.house.gov/writerep/">
House
"http://www.senate.gov/">Senate
It is very simple, IF the folks in Congress do not stop that, then quote Donald Trump in the November elections and tell them, "You're fired!"
A test of that magnitude will make other countries itch to play with big, dangerous toys. The environmental risks are not good, but what is worse is if India and Pakistan decide again that they need to test some nuclear weapons. Our folks in Congress need to be reminded of the itchy trigger fingers that India and Pakistan have.
What the heck was Rover doing with the Illinois Lake County GOP at a fundraiser? I know some of those folks and they are *so* getting a cleansing of that evil spirit.
>;-)
I found out about snipe hunting when an old farmer tried to pull that story on a young me-I asked him so many questions he confessed what it was all about and gave up trying to fool me.
Thanks for always answering my questions SPB and helping us all make sense of our attempt to decifer a bit of what is yet to come.
Well, what a mess I made with the links. Sorry about that! Try again, this time with the preview button:
House
Senate
How about it? Any city folks wanna go snipe hunting? I know places where the snipes grow fat and slow...you are sure to catch some.
All you need to bring some kind of bag...burlap works best for snipe.
Night Owl,
Folks, Fitzgerald is not Superman... I know that he is the Special Prosecutor on the leak case and U.S. Attorney in Chicago. But, in the Nevada issue, Night Owl is right. It is up to the people to notify their representative in the states and say 'no!' And if the representative sucks his thumb on the issue, then you know not to vote for that representative in November. Folks, understand that your representive in your state work for YOU! YOU don't work for them! And if they can't listen to you in your issues and concerns, then that representative don't deserve that office position. Take back your country in November election!!!
Nah, not Kristol...that one that let his tongue slip about beating his wife....and was embarrassed when confronted about the PNAC and the neocons. (Colbert)
Kristol, leading "Straussian" propagandist for the war party in BushCo.
Folks,
Hastert and Dead Eye Dick had some choice words. This is telling you a rift with the GOP and the Gerbil Administrstion:
May 18, 2006
Hastert Lets Cheney Have It
House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL) "engaged in a high-decibel rant last week when he met with Vice President Dick Cheney," Robert Novak reports. "The speaker was enraged by the sacking of his friend and former colleague, Porter Goss."
"Hastert was so vituperative that a private session with President Bush in the living quarters of the White House was scheduled immediately."
"That wrath reflects the feeling in the House Republican cloakroom that Goss, who gave up a safe congressional seat from Florida for a thankless cleanup mission at the CIA, is being made a scapegoat for the government's intelligence mess. But Hastert's discontent goes beyond the CIA. The GOP mood on Capitol Hill, particularly the House, is poisonous."
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2006/05/18/hastert_lets_cheney_have_it.html
Poisonous is right.. Good thing, Cheney didn't mistake Hastert as a quail. What I want to know: did Hastert tell Cheney to go fu** himself???
SPB:
Does Darth Cheney know how to talk any other way? I think not...even his daughter talks like that!!
Yup. like Father like daughter. I guess to them cursing is considered normal.
Here are the cartoons of the day about "Official G":
The Gerbil's "We The People" version:
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/20060519_luckovich_we_the_people/
The Gerbil's pet project plan:
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/20060517_luckovich_bush_immigration_plan/
Speaking of Cheney's daughter, did anyone catch "Letterman" last night? Mary is as nasty as her father.
I think gays should have equal rights but Dave should not have given this woman the time of day.
Teak:
I didn't see it, was she promoting her new book?
I have read Christy's article from Firedoglake dated May 17,2006 about Libby. This excerpt will explain when grand jury meet. From Christy:
"Let me start today by saying that, yes, it is possible that the grand jury could meet with Patrick Fitzgerald today (meaning Wednesday May 17, 2006) because, as is true every Wednesday and Friday, the grand jury room is booked for the purposes of proceedings. It’s a regular grand jury, so they can meet with any US Attorney for proceedings in the district — they aren’t just reserved for Fitz."
And there you go! Christy should know. After all, she is an attorney and worked with Fitz.
Cheers!
Hastert was a wrestling coach so I bet an angry tirade from him would be pretty special!! Where is Tricky Dick Nixon with a tape recorder when we need him!!? I guess Cheney will not be out in Hastert's district doing fundraisers anymore!
Roger, if Willam Hung does not exist, who the heck was that kid singing "She Bangs" on American Idol?
Folks, more intersting news about the leak case and Armitage. Check this out!!!!
Ex-deputy secretary of state new figure in CIA leak probe
BY KENNETH R. BAZINET and JAMES GORDON MEEK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
WASHINGTON - Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage has emerged as a key witness in the CIA leak probe, the Daily News has learned.
Armitage has been questioned several times, but is not expected to be indicted by the federal grand jury investigating who outed CIA spy Valerie Plame to journalists in 2003, sources said.
Armitage's testimony could hurt Vice President Cheney's indicted former chief aide Lewis (Scooter) Libby, or President Bush's political guru, Karl Rove.
Two sources familiar with the case said Armitage, Rove and Libby all had contacts with the press about Plame. Unlike Rove and Libby, Armitage appears to have tried to dissuade reporters from writing about her.
Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald recently had to sneak Armitage into a Washington courthouse to get past reporters - a sign of his value in the case, according to one source.
"Rich has been cooperating with Fitzgerald since day one," said another source, who has close ties to Armitage. "He was one of the first people to offer his testimony."
Armitage's office said he was was not available to comment.
Rove has testified five times as a subject of the grand jury probe.
Even if Rove escapes indictment, he could still be forced to resign for talking about Plame with a Time magazine reporter.
"People don't seem to want to talk about the possibility that Karl could be named an unindicted co-conspirator," a third source close to the case said. "Can an unindicted co-conspirator remain at the White House? Personally, I don't think so."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/419364p-354152c.html
Connect the dots, folks!!!!!!
Bingo, Roger!
This is like chess game... Fitzgerald knows every move that Porkrind and the little soldier is doing. Fitz has a strategy that he always used to get the #2 guy first to get the #1 guy! Porkrind has been checkmated and Darth Cheney is next. When Cheney is indicted, watch the lame duck sitting Gerbil yearn for the bottle and find a rock to crawl under.. It will be impeachment time for the Gerbil!
Sorry, s-q--been busy googling from cloak and dagger, hehe.
Yes, Mary was promoting her book. She was snippy just like her father. I sorta felt sorry for Dave and he can take on the best of them.
She went on and on how much better the Iraqis' lives were now, blah...blah.
A witch. (And this has nothing to do with gays because I think they deserve the same rights as the next couple.)
Oh, she acting kinda funny when Dave acted what her Dad said when she talked to him after shooting Harry....I thought so, and I've read others, too that seen the smirk and pause like he was drunk.
If she didn't like any question she became nasty and rude.
I think I just heard that on C & D, Roger. Did you ever see that 'Rolling Stone' article about a certain Senator?
The "Da Vinci Code" is just a movie, based on a fiction book which was plagiarized. How can you trust an author for writing the 'truth' when he plagiarized?
I think you probably know which state I live in...the Land of Oz.
Land of twits.
Talking about me?
Yep, they always pick on me. I am genius at the marketing thing.
Any other sites you recommend, Roger? I watched a Dutch film on a 'retired' shadow group last night. They too control things?
No the other one, Pat, but I cannot stand your ass either.
Dude you are so not getting it. Dan Brown is an admitted plagiarizer. The book was born in a lie because major chunks of it were stolen. Truth or not, the author was a thief.
Thank you! Actually I've been hitting almost all of them, I've been catching up reading and reading. No wonder, investigations and commissions stall and unearth nothing.
FBI agents were searching the office of Rep. William Jefferson as part of a bribery investigation, government officials told CNN on Saturday night. The Louisiana Democrat's home in New Orleans was searched last August, but this is the first time the FBI has ever searched the Capitol Hill office of a congressman, according to one government official.
"I'm bringing rhubarb/strawberry pie."
Ah ha ha, very funny! From the old Bullwinkle Fractured Fairy Tales cartoons.
Someone here has brought up that which should not be exposed to the general public. Now you will all leave in fear and paranoia like I must, constantly looking over my shoulder and trusting no one, not even family.
If the American people ever allow William Hung to control the composing of their music, first by rythym and then by blues, the amateur vocalists that will grow up around them will then deprive the people of their musical tastes until their children will wake up as tone deaf wiggers on the continent their fathers conquered.
I read "the Code" back when it first came out. I then read all Brown had out to read- all great stuff.
When I was visiting San Juan my friends took me to a Mason shrin. It's really a mausoleum of a family that owned a lime stone business there.
In the center is a round table with stone chairs around it. Each chair is a stone marker. I took pictures of them and have just posted them on the bottom of my photo page for ya'll. You might find them intersting.
http://fallonstudio.com/photos.html
Please don't judge me for my spelling, but by the content of my words :/ I really need to stop slpapping the keys like a monkey and check my stuff- sorry.
yes, Night Owl...
* A new nuclear age appears to be on the horizon. President Bush recently asked Congress for $27 million to help jumpstart the country's first new nuclear weapons program in two decades. This program will not only be about rebuilding old nuclear weapons, it will also be about producing new nuclear warheads.
* The Department of Energy (DOE) was preparing to conduct a large scale, open-air, high explosive detonation on June 2nd (it is delayed until June 23). The explosion, named Divine Strake, will test what capabilities are needed to attack hardened underground targets. It will be conducted at the Nevada Test Site, which is located approximately 90 miles north of Las Vegas.
The march to war with Iran is on...and going unimpeded by MSM.
God save us from this dangerous regime...I am all for regime change at home...hallelujah!!!
Sorry I missed the BBQ last night. Ann says: "I miss talking out of my ass for a crowd."
Well, I can't wait for the next BBQ -- hope it's soon.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Frank_Rich_deciphers_The_Rove_Da_0520.html
http://www.rawstory.com/
news/2006/Frank_Rich_deciphers
_The_Rove_Da_0520.html
Jan...enjoyed viewing your photography and art...awesome work!
Have to go chase my 2 year-old... see everyone Monday.
Nice work Jan.
If you wish to delve beyond Brown on this "Code" topic you can find no better work than the non-fiction of my freind Tracy Twyman. She just published a book on the Masonic influence and cryptology that runs deep in the U.S.
She has many online articles, including the recent Masons work, that get to the meat on this controversy and has been "the" expert imo all along.
There is so much much to all this than what Brown wrote I promise you.
http://www.dragonkeypress.com/
chimpcoulter,
Thank you :). But did you see the chair backs?
cjt,
Thanks for the info. I'll go look.
You are very welcome Jan.
As Roger pointed some get very dangerous with this topic. A case in point is that recently a government tribunal in Pakistan has called for Tracys' extadition for trial and execution on blasphemy charges. There is no greater expert on the "Bloodline" than she...imo again... and she been at this far longet than most.
If you really want to go "far out"
search on Prince Nicholas DeVere works.
Dang, I scared to look.
Wowser! Soory I missed the BAR-B-Q!
New Thread.
DeVere von Drakenburg is scary, yes indeed.
He's also out of loop now and suffering from a clinical paranoid condition (which says much) but the whole basis of the topic can be found with he and Twyman.
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