Humor Me...
101 Let's imagine for a moment - that I am a special prosecutor - have an evil doer (for these purposes we will refer to him as Official "A") - by the short ones - on charges of lying to investigators, perjury, and obstruction of justice - all very serious crimes - with someone going to jail - it is not me.
Naturally, Official "A" is an unhappy person - very unhappy - all the money in the world - his good looks - powerful friends - high priced defense lawyers - can't help him beat this rap.
Also imagine - there might be other evil doers on my radar - Official "A-" and Official "A+" - that this special prosecutor - is building cases against as well.
In exchange - for Official "A's" cooperation and testimony - in helping bring these other evil doers to justice - hypothetically - I just might cut Official "A" some slack - on one or more charges - at sentencing.
[More than 90 percent of federal defendants plead guilty. Some do so during the pretrial phase as part of a plea bargain, in exchange for the prosecutors' dropping some charges or recommending a more lenient sentence.]
Naturally - as a special prosecutor (remember, humor me) - I have presented evidence - before a grand jury - on more than one occasion - finding of probable cause for grand juries - necessary to issue an indictment – is a relatively low standard of proof.
Finally - imagine - 12 of the 23 jurors - have already voted to indict Official "A" - consider the proposition - that I might want to keep that information secret (e.g. "sealed") - use it as leverage - to negotiate with Official "A" - and his lawyer - for unconditional cooperation - to bring all the evil doers to justice.
In a perfect world - this would be - swell.
Happy Friday - have a great weekend. :D
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 5/19/2006
53 Comments:
We want to know who put Cheney to the task of setting up a puppet government in Syria, so that you can nail him for treason.
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2006/3303cheney_bibi.html
And GET WOLFOWITZ.
I got lost at hello. What is official a and who's making a deal with is it A + A or what. I'm confused and please don't get mad I'll wait for the grand jury. It's starting to look like their trying to find out who is going to take the fall. As for Corallo he's over paid and Rove should ask for his money back. Just let me know when it's check mate I'll be fine.
Way to go Mr. Fitzgerald...
I hope you take down all of the "officials" on your list.
Sorry Jason/Wayne, you will just have to take the hit for awhile...
The waiting is killing me also but I can wait for the Bigger fishfry to come...
I love the word SQUEEZE.
B.
Hey I also believe that the GJ will do the right thing and give the Prosecutor what he asks for in terms of an indictment.
Of course leverage is always a fun thing to have - to see who might squeal on the little piggy!!
I know that good things come to those who wait - and I'm willing to let the process work.
Bring Cheney to his knees! We know Rove has always hated Cheney and Cheney has hated Rove.
Also, Rove is more paranoid than J. Edgar Hoover and you can be certain he watched his back and kept a file on Cheney. Where do you think Fitz got that N.Y. Times with Cheney's handwriting on it?
Great work, rollin, rollin, rollin.
The only issue here is that everyone hates Rove so much they are losing site that compared to Cheney he is a little fish.
Wow, all is clear.
Thanks for that "humoring" lesson in procedure.
We're here for you, whenever.
Thanks Fitz, I see the light at the end of the tunnel and it's quite bright ;-)
The only issue here is that everyone hates Rove so much they are losing site that compared to Cheney he is a little fish.
GOOD THOUGHT ANON 5:51PM
Ok, Fitz! Got it! Why settle for the Hamhock...when you can get the whole HOG!! :)
*OINK* *OINK*
Quote: "Where do you think Fitz got that N.Y. Times with Cheney's handwriting on it?"...very interesting
...I still have absolute faith in my main man, Fitzie!
Good luck with tying up ends, Fitzie. I hope you get some rest this weekend -- you will need it next week.
Have a great weekend all of my PJF pals!
Uhhuh,
Let me get this right, Fitz, if Official A, wants to cut a deal and I mean a DEAL with the Special Prosecutor, meaning you, then Official A better damn well have a lot of dirt and more meat (date, time, and concrete proof via paper trail) of info of certain top offical involved in leaking the covert's identity... If in a perfect world, Official A got the goods on say Official A+ and Official A-, then we are talking a bringing down a corrupted Administration in the history books. But, I wouldn't cut a deal with Official A until I know that he has concrete proof of a paper trail (date,time, who, what, when, and why) that will lead to not only to Official A+ and Official A- but all the way on the food chain to the main kingpin: The Gerbil!
I think I see the Gerbil running up the pinwheel. He's trapped in that little cage and there's nowhere to go!
Well Fitz, If you can get even more info from the little fish, make a deal and go for the top dogs then I say go for it. As long as it's in your favor! Rember, you can't trust [b]ANY[/b] of these little chicken hawks! Let em' burn in hell all the way!!!
Anonymous said...
If Fitz investigates this leak and finds other crimes besides the leak, since all dots seem to connect....can he bring charges on the alleged new crimes discovered, if any?
5:14 PM
Patrick J. Fitzgerald
Patrick J. Fitzgerald said...
Yes.
5:34 PM
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I would imagine that you and your staff are overwhelmed with evidence and pleas for help and justice.
I am anon...and thank you for answering this question the other day. Courage and humility to you, Mr. Fitzgerald.
So all the trash gets taken to the curb.....Fitz can move on. Then the job falls on us.... Who the hell can we put in office that is a real "public servant"?
Other than Fitz I having trouble finding any that are worthy........
Articles of impeachment, resignation, and convictions in Watergate - read up on the history, charges, sentences -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal#Aftermath
Is PJ leading us by the hand or methodically taking baby steps so he can get Karl to say "Mother May I?"
It doesn't take a big leap of faith to see that he has alot of targets and work ahead of him, but he is very experienced in prosecuting long and complex cases in his career AND always get that GUILTY plea or verdict.
"Let's pretend for a moment - that I am a special prosecutor ..." I'd say that is what this blog is all about. A lot of wishful thinking and pretending which doesn't change the results of things one iota.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
A piece about Rove and his mentor. I am going to have to choose an identity. Too shameful to be using the same handle as the anonymous half-conscious people who have been posting here recently. Have a great weekend. Cheers!
This is funny. This came from Talkleft.com. Anyway, one of journalists emailed Mark Corallo about Rove. Here is the response by Corallo:
"This just in from Karl Rove spokesman Mark Corallo [via e-mail in response to a question I e-mailed him]:"
"Nothing going on. I was told by several journalists who were down at the courthouse that the Grand Jury was not meeting today. Of course, the GJ may be meeting at the undisclosed location (as VP Cheney is out of town and not using it today...)"
Well, the bonehead Corallo should get his walking paper because I guess that he didn't check with ABCnews.com on The Note when it said that Fitzgerald was meeting with GJ at 9:30 am.. Now, Fitz wasn't meeting with the GJ to discuss The Simpsons show!!! You know, if there are more idiots in the world like Corallo cloned, then we all need to find another planet to live on!!
Let's pretend for a moment that I am Adolph Hitler.
Is this announcement going to happen today or what ?
No!!!!
Grandmanuk I think your right and yes I remember how those little things curled up. I know these guys are trying to twist and turn but I believe in Fitz so I don't mind waiting. To many new negtive comments are coming on the blog and it's disheartening. I just wish these new people knew Fitz and his team like we do. At lease this keeps me sharp and paying attention. Oh Peach said Hi she asked about you.
My guess is that, it WAS planned for today but in order to catch the "bigger fish" in the sea pat decided to take another route in order to do a "all in one" swoop.
I finally got it now. Patrick the Hawk is swooping down upon the bush cronies and he's now going in for the dive!
Update From truthout.org:
"The Rove Indictment Story as of Right Now
By Marc Ash,
Fri May 19th, 2006 at 04:23:39 PM EDT :: Fitzgerald Investigation
(10 comments)
On Saturday afternoon, May 13, 2006, TruthOut ran a story titled, "Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators." The story stated in part that top Bush aide Karl Rove had earlier that day been indicted on the charges set forth in the story's title.
The time has now come, however, to issue a partial apology to our readership for this story. While we paid very careful attention to the sourcing on this story, we erred in getting too far out in front of the news-cycle. In moving as quickly as we did, we caused more confusion than clarity. And that was a disservice to our readership and we regret it.
As such, we will be taking the wait-and-see approach for the time being. We will keep you posted."
How come no one with any credibility will quote anything posted at this blog? After all it is suppose to come straight from the "Desk of Patrick J. Fitzgerald". Go figure.
Anon 8:26 PM,
The reputed indictment and announcment seem to be entirely bogus and apparently fabricated by "sources" still unnamed. For anyone to still perpetuate this is an insult to the intelligence of the people that frequent this blog.
Now don't get me wrong, my hopes were up too but the stories are so full of holes and changed daily by the reporting webpages that it should easily be seen now that this was a farce.
Lucky Duke,
Gonzales is recused from this affair, there is no way that PJF would brief him on an indictment. This should tell enough about the "source" as I see Truthout just conceded to.
Anon 7:12 pm
Oh, get over yourself. Wishful thinking or not, we are a group that cares deeply about the situation our nation has found itself in, and have come together to believe in positive and productive change.
If that's not changing things "one iota" I don't know what is.
We hurt no one, we support each other - at least those that can find a name to use - and you might ask yourself, is your time best served talking trash about those who do you no harm?
I can wait. I really can't wait, but looks like I'll have to wait. I want to see the egg on the faces of all those blind neocons.
Geez, TO sure is getting clobbered in their comments sections, should be a lesson learned.
And not a word from Leopold?
That jives with us Fitz. In EVERY single one of Leopold's stories he has always said that an announcement is EXPECTED.
"An announcement by Fitzgerald is expected to come this week, sources close to the case said. However, the day and time is unknown. Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the special prosecutor was unavailable for comment. In the past, Samborn said he could not comment on the case."
On one hand, I love to see the passion and disgust for this Administration expressed so freely and eloquently on the world wide web (which I invented, BTW), but am saddened by how quickly the people claiming to want wanting "justice" in America freak out when their expectations and short attention spans are not met -they appear are more concerned about looking foolish to their friends than letting Fitz do what he does best and flip a smaller fish while going after a bigger one(s).
Get a grip people - we are talking about indicting the Vice President and perhaps the President of the United States and who we collectively know both are guilty as sin, so let Fitz take his time and give Leopold a break. HOLY COW!
AHA This so called SP in a perfect world is playing "deal of no deal" with the sealed documents--now putting out-on this blog-and no one really from the other side---LOOKS AT THIS BLOG--- THAT there is a good chance THAT--
Finally - """"imagine - 12 of the 23 jurors - have already voted to indict Official "A"
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consider the proposition - that I might want to keep that information secret (e.g. "sealed") - use it as leverage - to negotiate with Official "A" - and his lawyer - for unconditional cooperation - to bring all the evil doers to justice.
Deal or No Deal -Brilliant-and of course he has to think real hard.
Even in the unreal --no less the real world--YOU KNOW THIS GUY IS NOT GOING TO TAKE THE RAP IF SOME ONE ELSE IS INVOLVED--This man is a shrewd devious and dirty trick player. In other words a MASTER OF THE POLITICAL WARS--BUT HE IS NOT A STAND UP GUY..If i had something to hide and HE was in the trench with me,Id watch my 6.
SO MAKE HIM SQUIRM Pat-Rick--
""And not a word from Leopold?""
Thats what Jason gets for having sources that leak info---but do not know the plan-in this case inside the SP'S HEAD--
Trying to be the FIRST has it's bumps.
How does Ms. Jackie stay so positive, cool and calm while keeping the faith day after day?
I will have what she is having and no, that is not a When Harry Met Sally reference. ;)
Goper's Lament
When tomorrow all the things are gone,
We've worked for all our lives,
And the Right has saved the Nation,
From homosexuals and their wives,
I'll wish on every star,
We'd had Clinton here today.
Or perhaps to hear that Howard Scream
And make it go away.
And it's hard to be a Republican,
Where I thought my lunch was free.
And I won't forget the ones who lied,
And sold that crap to me.
And I'd give my tax cut if I could,
But my job moved to Bombay.
'Cause there ain't no doubt I bought the scam,
That screwed the USA.
From the words of Bill O'Reilly,
That I heard on my TV,
From Bob Novak, and Rush Limbaugh,
It all made sense to me.
Anyone who spoke against us,
Was playin' a dangerous game.
But now my country's become a laughing stock,
And the GOP's to blame.
And it's hard to be a Republican,
Where I thought my lunch was free.
And I won't forget the ones who lied,
And sold that crap to me.
And I'd take my vote back if I could,
Now my grandkids have to pay.
'Cause there ain't no doubt I bought the scam,
That screwed the USA.
Another "Black Friday" for neocons has come and gone and it is obvious that it wasn't even a shade of gray much less black.
Anon 10:40 PM,
Journalism is rough and dirty game with little forgiveness when cutting edge stories are concerned.
I just may have to retract my postulations above and apologize to Jason Leopold after conferring with my fellow wizards just now,
"The game is afoot..."
Where did Fitz get that newspaper with Cheney's chicken scratches? Who saves stuff like that anyway?
Arrogance or did someone make sure to "clean up properly"?
a little levity...
Tricky Dick Nixon said: "Get a good night's sleep and don't bug anybody without asking me."
pray for wisdom and God will lead you to how to proceed, its his work you are doing! :)
On the pretext that Official "A" is cut by the short hairs and knows that he 'should' be indicted on all charges,
we would hope that
a) some slack only for viable evidentiary findings on A+, not another goose chase, e.g.obstruction of justice veiled under 'new information'/erstwhile facts as "A" would like to define;
b) "A"'s SECRET CLEARANCE has already been stripped.
In doing A&B in a non-perfect world, we would eliminate potentiality for
1)fraudulent voting methodologies being funded for this year and potentially beyond
2) cease the nonsense on policies forging NUCLEAR WAR w/IRAN or N KOREA or CHINA or RUSSIA.
Take yer pick.. they seem to fly on the table at will, given the cast of characters, 3 stooges that seem to enjoy this fun game of big boys and girls 'tag'.
No tickie no shirtie. No sec clearance, no entrance to the big game, e.g. the WHITE HOUSE.
Done,
finito,
outta here,
gonzo,
don't let the door slam you on your way out...
"A" must be gone and without 'data' or a 'book deal', day-time 'movie' or other medium to support and perpetuate his likeness anywhere in decent, moral society.
Any PR professional or politico knows that you NEVER issue a press release or hold a press conference on a FRIDAY unless you:
1. are compelled to, and
2. don't want to attract attention.
Well, freaking BushCo. seems to do that quite often on Fridays on sneaking out things they don't want covered. They don't have to as much now since they seem to control the MSM.
Folks,
More news from Gerbil 101 series:
First Lesson: Have some sense..
Bush opposes English as national language: Gonzales
HOUSTON (Reuters) -
"President George W. Bush has long opposed making English the country's national language, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said on Friday, the day after the Senate voted to do so."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060519/pl_nm/usa_immigration_gonzales_dc_1
The Gerbil once again puts his foot in his mouth again!!!
Second Lesson: don't be in Denial!
From Crooks and Liars and interview with NBC news reporter, David Gregory and the Gerbil:
Crooks and Liars:
"GREGORY: Let me ask you about your leadership. In the most recent survey, your disapproval rating is now one point lower than Richard Nixon‘s before he resigned the presidency. You‘re laughing, but ...
BUSH: I'm not laughing, I just ...
GREGORY: ... why do you think that is?
BUSH: Because we're at war, and war unsettles people. We got-listen, we've got a great economy. We've added 5.2 million jobs in the last two-and-a-half years. But there's a-but people are unsettled. They don‘t look at the economy and say life is good. They know we're at war and I'm not surprised that people are unsettled because of war.
The enemy has got a powerful tool, and that is to get on your TV screen by killing innocent people, and my job is to continue to remind the people it's worth it. We're not going to retreat hastily. You know, we're not going to pull out of there before the job is done and we‘ve got a plan for victory.
GREGORY: But they're just not unsettled, sir. They disapprove of the job you‘re doing.
BUSH: That's unsettled."
And there you go folks, King Gerbil says that we are "unsettled."
Anon @ 6:35 PM "who the hell can we put in office that is a real 'public servant'?" - Why not the REAL President, Al Gore?
Anon @ 10:09 PM - I agree that we need to have patience and know that PJF will handle these cases in the most expedient and effective way. The complexity of these cases must be mind boggling.
D
FBI+ CIA+ NSA divided by The Gerbil =KGB?
Good Night/Morning! Signing off!
Any PR professional or politico knows that you NEVER issue a press release or hold a press conference on a FRIDAY unless you:
1. are compelled to, and
2. don't want to attract attention.
11:58 PM
THE NEXT COMMENT ANSWERED THE FIRST ONE PERFECTLY-Fri in the GOV Biz is when you put out the "TRASH" hopefully in the middle of the paper closer to the obit section than the sports page.
Anonymous said...
Well, freaking BushCo. seems to do that quite often on Fridays on sneaking out things they DONT want covered. They don't have to as much now since they seem to control the MSM.
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GREGORY: But they're just not unsettled, sir. They DISAPPROVE of the job you‘re doing.
BUSH: THATS unsettled."
And there you go folks, King Gerbil says that we are "unsettled."""""""
OK SO now we are the crazies for not agreeing with his decisions and all the corruption?
Now why is HAL building all those detention NO BID detention camps? --for the unsettled??
POTUS NUTUS: "That's unsettled."
form the desk of Chimp Coulter: "A central componet of POTUS hate speech is to make paranoid accusations based on their own neurotic impulses, such as calling Americans angry, unsettled, hate-filled, unpatriotic and mean."
Well....isn't this an interesting site. Someone impersonating a federal officer. Quaint. I sure hope nobody tells the FBI....oops...too late on that issue. So Jason - why don't you fess up right away. But I'll bite for now - so riddle me this:
Enlighten us pseudo-fitz about which facts Jason was correct on in last week's article. And remember it was you that said he has been factually correct in every article.
I mean - look at it this way. I am Reporter A and I have just written an article that says that earthquakes are a fact of life in CA. Geologists close to the investigation have told me that within days a specific city in CA - say - well - Encinitas - will have an earthquake and it will cause major damage. Then I follow with the predicition that experts say that CA will experience the "BIG ONE" sometime in the next 20 years.
Now - the base of the article states things as facts - that something will happen within a specific time frame. But the the qualifier is that it will happen some time. Does the fact I put the qualifier in mean the base facts don't have to be true? That somehow I did not present them as facts? Even if they proved not to be true?
That's the problem here. But since I have predicted that CA - and I will even be more specific - Ecinitas - will have an earthquake sometime in the next 20 years it means that I have broken the story and if it happens I get credit for it right? Sheesh...common logic rather than blind trust is what is needed.
Someone is pulling a Hiltzik here. Look how close the wording is between articles published here and Jason L's articles at TO. Wonder why they are so close to each other? Must be using the famous "Comey-Fitzgerald" ESP Mind Rays that have newly been discovered.
Swift Boat Specter = Jeff Fisher or someone smoking some really nice weed.
EWWWWW....name calling...I am so impressed by your intellectual prowess...
rob I know I'm a little late with this response and I hope you read it. When you have lived as long as I have and seen what I've seen you'd understand that life is special and it should be lived. Faith is what holds us together hope gives us the will power. Remember when kids believe even when it seems impossible we as adults wondered what's wrong with this kid. But it's believing that is the real power. I believe in Patrick J. Fitzgerald. No he's just human like me put he is driven to get to the truth. All he needs is a little support and faith in his efforts. So rob close your eyes and think positive but let your heart upon to faith, hope and belief then you'll know what I know. And your right it's not Harry met Sally I guess you could say with out the sex stuff it's when Miss Jackie met Patrick J. Fitzgerald and begin to believe again.
"Let's pretend for a moment - that I am a special prosecutor ..." I'd say that is what this blog is all about. A lot of wishful thinking and pretending which doesn't change the results of things one iota.
7:12 PM
You are SO correct anon. For that reason alone, we all here remember that we ARE a nation of laws and this IS a legal case.
You seem to be trying to divert attention from the fact that this is a REAL LIFE Prosecutor PJF and a REAL LIFE GJ.
No we have NO effect on this matter, but neither do you. Your wishing and hoping these criminals get away, will not make it so.
However, PJF bringing an airtight case, getting an indictment and conviction WILL make it happen.
Dream on little anon/troll - your koolaid is getting low!
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