I Am Irish...
so I can ask this question: Mr. Cheney how many drinks did you have on the afternoon of February 11th?
Mr. Vice President, be a man and answer truthfully or we will have to ask Mr. Whittington, Ms. Armstrong, Amb. Willeford and the Secret Service detail.
Thank you for your cooperation.
UPDATE: Cheney's hunting host lobbied White HouseMSNBC - 1 hour ago... ... "There may be a beer or two ... she said, "but remember not everyone in the party was shooting.". ...
Screen shot of scrubbed story.
Uh huh, and I find it queer that MSNBC has scrubbed that quote from a piece online - either they are doing a separate story or under pressure from the most powerful man in the world.
Mr. Vice President, be a man and answer truthfully or we will have to ask Mr. Whittington, Ms. Armstrong, Amb. Willeford and the Secret Service detail.
Thank you for your cooperation.
UPDATE: Cheney's hunting host lobbied White HouseMSNBC - 1 hour ago... ... "There may be a beer or two ... she said, "but remember not everyone in the party was shooting.". ...
Screen shot of scrubbed story.
Uh huh, and I find it queer that MSNBC has scrubbed that quote from a piece online - either they are doing a separate story or under pressure from the most powerful man in the world.
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 2/14/2006
48 Comments:
Dick Cheney: "Your honor....I have to plead the fifth."
Lewis Irving Libby: "Uhhhahh just don't leave him in the same room with me, kapishe?! I don't want nobody in the same room with me and a bourbon!"
Courtroom theater?
PJF
You'll not get a straight answer from anyone of those clowns or those aiding the clowns .. not under oath or under oath.
We're all just sick of this crap which eminates from the Oval every every minute of every day.
We do really look ridiculous from within the US and outside of the US.
Why, why are they still sitting in those chairs?!
Ok -- here's the real answer:
too many and he knew it was Whittington and he shot anyway. Trigger finger and head soaked with alcohol were contributing to the finality of the pellets thrusting out of the barrel.
None of them will ever admit to that. Simply put.
forgot to add:
on SS detail -- you've heard of blackball, yes?
on Whittington's wife -- you've heard of pay'er off, eh?
nasty business.
nasty people.
nothing redeeming. nothing, nothing at all in their character.
not a damned thing.
*pssssst.....He was aiming for Rove's lawyer Luskin.....
I hope Cheney has been working up his resignation speech...and that it doesn't have to be delivered from Whittington's grave. Some are beginning to doubt that he even is alive, thinking we have all be strung along on a massive coverup.
I wouldn't hold my breath on that Fitz! Cheney would never be a man to tell you how many drinks he had, who leaked the CIA name, who many times he went to bathroom, how many times he said the F word, etc. If Cheney was a "REAL MAN"," (so to speak), and I mean a real man, he would level with you and be honest with you to whom leak the CIA's name and quit bobbing and weaving the question. But, Cheney is too arragant to do that.
Fitzi & SPB:
Whose authority does this fall under? (If Cheney was intoxicated? And, if the truth comes out?)
S-Q
Fitzi & SPB:
Happy Valentine's Day to you guys! I know you work hard everyday on all this scandal & corruption!
S-Q
Sorry, but I'm not reading anything else that makes me think he'd been drinking. Where did that come from? And the NY Times said a deputy DID interview him that night (not turned away as your Secret Service spokesman said).
"Sheriff Salinas said he sent his chief deputy, Gilbert Sanmiguel, to the Armstrong Ranch that night. He said Mr. Sanmiguel interviewed Mr. Cheney and reported that the shooting was an accident."
So besides "reading between the lines," what makes you think Cheney had been drinking?
UP in MI have you ever been hunting? If yes, what did you drink, diet coke?
back to basics:
when one goes 'quail' hunting, does one typically shoot at 4 to 6 feet above ground,
OR
does one shoot in the sky?
somehow I recollect seeing people shoot skeet in the sky for this very, very reason.
eh?
This ia definitely a ceverup. Need I say more? From Think Progress:
White House Cover-Up: McClellan Conceals Heart Attack From Press
For 22 hours, the White House concealed the fact that Vice President Cheney had inadvertantly shot a 78-year old man, Harry Whittington.
The White House continues to withhold critical information from the press. In a press conference today, hospital administrator Peter Banko said that the White House had been informed that Mr. Whittington suffered a heart attack between 9:30-10AM this morning.
But at today’s White House Press Briefing, which started after 12PM, Scott McClellan didn’t tell the press. CNN confirmed that McClellan “was notified [about the heart attack] just before the briefing.” But McClellan suggested to reporters that he had no new information:
Oh. OK. Got it now. Hunting = drinking. Duh. No, never been hunting. Yes, drink diet Coke. In fact, diet Coke w/lime. Nectar of the gods.
OK. Thanks for the clarification. I guess it was just that I'd never seen Elmer Fudd hoisting a Jamesons! : )
Did someone in the sheriff's department change their story? I read the same original report yesterday about the investigator being turned away.
But presumably, if he did interview Cheney that day, it was much later in the evening. If I were drinking and accidentally shot someone, I'm sure I would sober up pretty quickly. Then give me a few hours, and i could probably pass a blood test, too.
SPB:
I just read that article about McClellan, who knew about the heart attack, before the press briefing and saying there was nothing new.
The smell is getting stronger!
S-Q
.. a date? well, was Judy Miller one of those guests?
And still, does one shoot quail at 4 to 6 feet above ground,
OR
does one shoot in the air [greater than 15 feet high off the ground]as I would anticipate?
Well, to put everone to rest on whether Cheney was drink or did drink during his hunting event. This is a press release from the Kenedy County Sheriff Office dated Feb. 11, 2006 stating that the investigation reveals no alcohol or misconduct involved in the incident. But, why all the secrecy. See for yourself:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0213061cheney3.html
SPB:
As you said before, the dots will all connect. I think someone is probably asking themselves, how is Whittington connected to the CIA Leak, DeLay, Abramoff, etc?
S-Q
You believe that SPB, I am w/ Fitz on this one.
I don't believe anything from the sheriff's report, anon! The report was never mention in the media or newspaper It is definitely a coverup.
100% Irish. Grand daughter of a skeet champion/hunter. Niece, cousin, sister and friend of serious hunters. Shooting sports enthusiast, herself.
Guns and alcohol do not mix.
White trash hillbillies (north or south) may drink while they're hunting. But if they do, they are idiots.
You take up that gun, you take up an awesome responsibility. People I know who are serious about hunting and guns do not drink and hunt.
I do believe in this case, something like alcohol was involved. I don't understand the cover-up, otherwise.
At 5:30 pm, it's getting too dark to see properly. You don't know the exact location of someone in your hunting party, you don't fire your weapon. The intensity of the injury, the tightness of the pellet grouping, to me indicates it was closer range than 30 yards.
There is something about this that stinks to high heaven.
Saint Brigid
Yes, Cheney's breath. The Most Powerful Man in the world keeps Barney Fife at bay. No news here, move along.
who is the president???????
doesn't this make you wonder who is in charge..and can't they make VP
meet with the press
http://www.editorandpublisher.
com/eandp/news/article_display.
jsp?vnu_content_id=1001996948
Cheney is in Power. He will never resign and the so-called President
doesn't have the balls to fire him.
Bush is just a weak pathetic puppet.
Cheney is a drunken wanker.
I am unsure what Lucifer would be?
Irish or just pure Devil?
Whatever the case is crack it Fitz -
Fitz, we're going to have to force Cheney to resign.
And I'm behind you all the way with the shocktroops to drag him out of there......on with the case, get the indictments served and spread the word....
AP report still says:
Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said that about an hour after Cheney shot Whittington, the head of the Secret Service's local office called the Kenedy County sheriff to report the accident. "They made arrangements at the sheriff's request to have deputies come out and interview the vice president the following morning at 8 a.m. and that indeed did happen," Zahren said.
At least one deputy showed up at the ranch's front gate Saturday evening and asked to speak to Cheney but was turned away by the Secret Service, Zahren said. There was some miscommunication that arrangements already had been made to interview Cheney the next morning, he said.
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/politics/13869514.htm
Is it just me, or does it seem curious that the only account of the incident is from Armstrong, who did not actually see it? She says she first knew of it when she saw Secret Service men running into the woods.
Carpe diem...
Ok. Now for another round of
quizza quiz:
? does Abramoff go hunting?
? does Abramoff know Armstrong ?
? is the Pope Catholic?
? is Cheney a LIAR ?
? are the WaPo and NYTimes on puppet strings for CHENEY?
? Where was Cheney when the Warren Commission finalized its report on the assassination of Kennedy,e.g. when Bush '41' was CIA head?
mmmmmm?
How does the media keep lying and getting away with it?
That iritates me more than anything else happening since the Bush admin took over.
Hurry, it is looking like democracy will slip out of the grasp of Ohioans soon!
HB 3 and now Hackett is out.
Lets get real everybody knows that businessmen, lawyers and Judges drink way to much. President is a drinker what do you think they do at all those parties sip tea. The man was drank end of story and he refused to be available for the test. As for being Irish Fitz every American will be Irish on March 17th and the drinks will be green. I'll just have a green coke cola thank you.
According to the news, it is now a wait and see what happens to Whittington. He could potentially get worse and if he does,that could increase the seriousness of the incident.
S-Q
Jackie said...
Lets get real everybody knows that businessmen, lawyers and Judges drink way to much.
I have observed the same-and police officers too. I think it is because so many are angry people. Of course, thank God for the good ones!
But those few others...They take out their inner demons on the rest of us-meaning the whole world pays for their unbalances. pp
anonymous your right the cops are most likely to over drink. I remember a friend who was a Judge and he had a DWI aka Dui. I realized at the court parties just how much these guys drink. Well the Judge did the right thing and when to AA meeting/taught a class about drinking and later became the Head Judge in th Superior Court. Yes we're still friends. As for the cops sorry to say most of them ended up having medial problems then death.
I think, unfortunately for Mr. Whittington and his family, his condition may be more grave than the hospital and WH are telling us. According to the NY Times, the County DA said Cheney would have to face a grand jury and the investigation would be reopened, should the injury prove fatal. The locals may know more through the grapevine about the medical situation.
Mr. Whittington's other hunting buddies are not buying the story that he was shot at a range of 30 yards. Given the seriousness of the injury, that the 7.5 lead shot penetrated his clothing (one pellet lodging in his liver), and the windy weather conditions that day, some are speculating that Cheney was a lot closer to Whittington than reported.
See firedoglake blog
Saint Brigid
Cheney would have had to be closer, I paid some attention in forensics...and that is the only thing that explains the severity of the injuries.
Fitz,
I've lost total faith for the god damn congress and their coverups.
Immense pressure on democrats, republicans for another coverup
That's why I'm saying this right now: Let the fucking indictments flow, we'll figure everything else out. And recall leaders as well as oust them if they DO NOT DO THEIR JOBS, AND STOP BOWING TO THE EXECUTIVE
Just my 02 cents...
Read the link submitted by Anon at 12:32. The committee is going to try to sweep the legality issue of the NSA wiretaps under the rug, and make it all o.k. by expost facto legislation.
Your three senators are leaning this way. Please write to them and express your opinion:
Ohio
Maine
Snow
Nebraska Hegel,
Dewine of Ohio
http://dewine.senate.gov/
http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/26663
http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/
26663
SPB:
Good morning!
For some reason I just had this scenerio in my head...Suddenly Whittington called Cheney and told him, "we need to talk about something very important"--and Cheney doesn't want to talk about it on the phone, so he suggests they go quail hunting together to discuss it.
It happened so quickly that neither got their $7 hunting stamp.
What do you think?
SPB:
Also, I forgot to say, I wonder if they actually shot ANY quail? (Maybe that is why they didn't get the stamp...because it was going to be a discussion..not actual hunting??)
S-Q
I am sure they bagged 100+ sitting ducks (quail).
Plame, Iran and damage to National Security from Raw Story:
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Outed_CIA_officer_was_working_on_0213.html
Seems like Dr Evil, Mini Me and that ass Rove have some further explaining to do PJF..
when are you taking Rove's secret credentials?!
Good Morning Anon,
I really doubt that Cheney "forgot" to pay the $7 stamp. He is a hunting expert. As far as your scenario, Cheney and Whittington may have just gone hunting as usual. But, remember, Cheney became in the spotlight when Libby pointed the finger to hin and the Senators demanded an investigation into Cheney. So, this may have worked on Cheney's mind. Because Cheney has medical problems, we can only imagine what was going through his mind. Let's not forget that he is on medication and he was at least sips some liquor, we don't know how that affect his body. Mixing medication with alcohol is very dangerous. And since Cheney had two DWIs in 1962 and 1989 and had his first heart attack at the age of 37, Cheney is loose cannon and on borrowed time. Your question: did Cheney shoot any quail? Maybe or maybe not. But, rest assured, Cheney had a lot on his mind then and now.
Too many too count. None of your damn business.
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