Feb 26, 2007

An Imperfect System..?

We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world; and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men every day who don't know anything and can't read. - 4th of July speech 1873

An ignorance so shining and conspicuous as yours--now I have it--go on a jury. That is your place. - New York Weekly, 7/14/1873

Our admirable jury system enabled the persecuted ex-officials to secure a jury of nine gentlemen from a neighboring asylum and three graduates from Sing Sing, and presently they walked forth with characters vindicated. - The Gilded Age

The jury system puts a ban upon intelligence and honesty, and a premium upon ignorance, stupidity and perjury. It is a shame that we must continue to use a worthless system because it was good a thousand years ago...I desire to tamper with the jury law. I wish to so alter it as to put a premium on intelligence and character, and close the jury box against idiots, blacklegs, and people who do not read newspapers. But no doubt I shall be defeated--every effort I make to save the country "misses fire." - Roughing It

On the inquest it was shown that Buck Fanshaw, in the delirium of a wasting typhoid fever, had taken arsenic, shot himself through the body, cut his throat, and jumped out of a four-story window and broken his neck--and after due deliberation, the jury, sad and tearful, but with intelligence unblinded by its sorrow, brought in a verdict of death "by the visitation of God." What could the world do without juries? - Roughing It

The humorist who invented trial by jury played a colossal practical joke upon the world, but since we have the system we ought to try and respect it. A thing which is not thoroughly easy to do, when we reflect that by command of the law a criminal juror must be an intellectual vacuum, attached to a melting heart and perfectly macaronian bowels of compassion. -"Foster's Case," New York Tribune, 3/10/1873

91 Comments:

Blogger Stephanie said...

We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world; and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men every day who don't know anything and can't read. - 4th of July speech 1873


Ha, ha, that's great. I've never heard that.

2:29 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

"The juror who was dismissed was the art curator who wouldn't wear red on Valentine's day. Wells is reportedly quite happy with the results, and we hear Mr. Fitzgerald came as close to losing that poker face as he has — he was evidently quite pissed. "


All the best plans through manipulations by the defense may not pan out the way they wanted. God don't like ugly. Wells may have the smirk on his face with a sweet smell of victory in mind. Hang in there, Fitz. Keep the faith and keep your chin up. There is an angel looking over your shoulder.

2:36 PM  
Blogger Quzi said...

Here's another one from Twain:

"When we remember that we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained."
--Mark Twain's Notebook

This waiting for dilberations to end is maddening. I feel sorry for Fitzie and team. Gotta run. bbl

2:44 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

"he (Fitzgerald) was evidently quite pissed."



Oh, no --- I thought that (the curator being dismissed) was good news!

In my little mind, I assumed that someone who was anti-Valentines Day was trouble.

Or maybe Fitz had just been pissed at the prospect of a mistrial??

2:51 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

I love Mark Twain's quotes! :)

I still think the Jury will hand over the verdict tomorrow... :)

2:53 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

From the New York Post:


Monday, February 26, 2007

Has NYC Been Targeted for Terror?

Newsweek reports that officials believe Iran has targeted the city for a terrorist attack. It seems a series of incidents over the past few years have sparked the NYPD’s suspicion. In November 2003, two men described as members of the Iranian Mission "security" personnel were detained when they were seen videotaping subway tracks from Queens to Manhattan at 1:10 in the morning. In response to the incident, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said, “We're concerned that Iranian agents were engaged in reconnaissance that might be used in an attack against New York City at some future date.” According to Newsweek, security execs revealed last fall that future attacks may target bridges and tunnels, Jewish organizations or Wall Street. Now, with mounting tension between Washington and Tehran, these fears have been renewed.



Could they BE any more transparent?

2:57 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

"The measure of a country's greatness is its ability to retain compassion in times of crisis."

Thurgood Marshall

“Integrity is not a conditional word. It doesn't blow in the wind or change with the weather. It is your inner image of yourself, and if you look in there and see a man who won't cheat, then you know he never will.”

John D. MacDonald

2:58 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Someone please fill me in about the curator.

What do we know about her?

(I mean what do "you" know about her?)

3:00 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

Cheney, Bush, Rice and Rove should all be indicted and removed from office. Also, Wolfowitz.. Evil et al...

3:01 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

from fdl:

Wells is happy because any problems are grist for the ‘appeal’ mill.


It must be just this.




(People, you can disregard my above question regarding the curator)

3:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why can't they sequester these folks after they start deliberations so this would not happen and why not have them deliberate on a Saturday.

3:20 PM  
Anonymous naschkatze said...

David Schuster of MSNBC, who has actually done a pretty good job covering this trial I think, said that Fitzgerald wanted an alternate to replace the art curator but was overruled. Schuster also said that one of the alternates indicated "by body language" that she was anti-defense so you would gather from that that was why Fitzgerald wanted to replace the one juror. I read somewhere that one of his strengths is assessing potential jurors.

Many bloggers have assumed the art curator was pro-defense because she refused to go along with the group on wearing the red tees. I don't know why. Lawyers on both sides were supposed to have been startled when the jury came into the court room wearing those tees. Maybe old art curator was just taking the trial more seriously than some of the others, something I would think would appeal to Fitz. But these are not my tea leaves, just possibilities.

3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who knew there were people left in D.C. who knew how to read?!!! People, there is a VERY GOOD REASON why these folks DON'T have representation in Congress . . .and their inability to follow directions (jury instructions, for example) is the least of their problems. (And that's why I moved from D.C. to Maryland . . .)

3:22 PM  
Blogger Patrick J. Fitzgerald said...

“Integrity is not a conditional word. It doesn't blow in the wind or change with the weather. It is your inner image of yourself, and if you look in there and see a man who won't cheat, then you know he never will.”

My personal favorite -

"Conditional love is an oxymoron." - Yours Truly

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Editorial from Scripps Howard News Service.

Congress clearly didn't take much notice of an obscure provision the Bush administration slipped into the USA Patriot Act last year. But now it seems clear that the measure is being used to conduct a political purge of U.S. attorneys' offices.

So far, at least eight are known to have been forced out by the Justice Department, and there may be others. The departures were facilitated by a provision that allows the president to appoint interim U.S. attorneys for an indefinite period without the usual Senate confirmation.

The ouster that raised the biggest stink was that of Carol Lam, the U.S. attorney for San Diego, who nailed Randy ``Duke'' Cunningham, then a senior House Republican, for accepting over $2 million in bribes. The suspicion was that the White House acted because her investigation was still ongoing and widening.

Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty told a Senate committee that the firings were all for ``performance-related'' reasons, although he conceded that the highly respected U.S. attorney in Little Rock, Ark., was forced out so the job could be given to a protege and former aide to White House political adviser Karl Rove.

The ``performance-related'' defense began to crumble when the department's internal evaluations started to leak out and it turned out that most of the ousted attorneys had been capable, competent and well regarded.

Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee are threatening to summon the dismissed prosecutors to testify and to subpoena their performance evaluations. It would be an opportunity for the eight to rebut a gratuitous slap at their reputations.

Better yet would be to repeal the offending provision. A bill to do that has bipartisan support in the Senate, but is being held up in a procedural wrangle. Let's hope the lawmakers unsnarl the obstacle quickly, because this provision has the potential to give us a badly flawed criminal-justice system.

3:36 PM  
Blogger jan said...

That's what I see in you, Fitz ;D

I'll be off till tomorrow ;(

bye

3:37 PM  
Blogger Patrick J. Fitzgerald said...

Thanks Jan, an ex gf mistook it for flirting. ;)

3:40 PM  
Blogger jan said...

Pitty for her.

See ya'll tomorrow!

Till then sending very postive thoughts ;D

3:42 PM  
Anonymous naschkatze said...

I've read some more Schuster, and he said people speculated that the art curator was anti-Libby. But someone over at DailyKos wrote that she had a "personality disorder", all because she refused to wear the Valentine tee! We want people with herd mentality on a jury?

Someone started a rumor on an FDL thread over the weekend too that the juror who used to work for Woodward was a fink. These poor jurors may just be trying to do a good job, and no matter the outcome of the trial, will be criticized by someone.

3:42 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

Fitz:

Nice words, I really like that! Flirting? What's that? hehe :)

Jan:

Have a safe flight! :)

3:44 PM  
Blogger anthony said...

"he (Fitzgerald) was evidently quite pissed."

FYI:

"pissed" in British English means drunk.

The British equivalent of the Amrican "pissed" is "pissed off".

Thus, I will tell my English friends that Fitz was pissed off.

As I discovered one rainy day exiting the Metropolitan Museum in New York two years ago, "it's pissing down" has precisely the same meaning in both languages.

"Taking the piss," on the other hand, would be singularly incomprehensible to an American, and no, it doesn't mean,taking a visit to the loo (I mean, john).

3:49 PM  
Anonymous teak said...

Guess what I read? That she was Libby's friend's GF! 'Course I also read a misquote that Mr. Fitz was pissed and Randall was exhausted. Not what it says on the post.

"I was pissed because I had a full house and Randall was all in!"

Just pray the 11 finds Depends boy guilty, guilty, guilty.

3:51 PM  
Anonymous teak said...

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Possible_mistrial_Mistrial_CIA_leak_trial_0226.html

3:57 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Naschkatze said...

Many bloggers have assumed the art curator was pro-defense because she refused to go along with the group on wearing the red tees. Maybe old art curator was just taking the trial more seriously than some of the others


I see what you're saying, but
I don't think that donning heart T-shirts necessarily indicates a failure to take the case as seriously as they might.

3:59 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Naschkatze said...

Many bloggers have assumed the art curator was pro-defense because she refused to go along with the group on wearing the red tees. Maybe old art curator was just taking the trial more seriously than some of the others


I see what you're saying, but
I don't think that donning heart T-shirts necessarily indicates a failure to take the case as seriously as they might.

4:00 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

"Conditional love is an oxymoron." - Yours Truly


That's True, isn't it?!

4:03 PM  
Anonymous teak said...

A juror was dismissed from the trial of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby on Monday after court officials learned she had been exposed to information about the case over the weekend.
Posted Feb 26, 2007 08:26 AM PST
Category: CURRENT EVENTS

I wonder if this was the girlfriend of Libby's buddy.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

Just in case.

4:03 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

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4:11 PM  
Blogger Stephanie said...

Must-See Video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&hl=en


Aaron Russo (director of "America: Freedom to Fascism") talks about conversation with Rockefeller.

4:12 PM  
Blogger S-Q said...

I guess they lost their power at the courthouse approx an hour ago. The bloggers were using wifi and flashlights! LOL Sounds like a Turdblossom idea, doesn't it?
LOLMAO

4:12 PM  
Anonymous teak said...

Is the weather that bad in D.C.? That's awful.

4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did Wells take his Bean-O before the lights went out? lol

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Did Wells take his Bean-O before the lights went out?"

I hope no one was next to him. lol

5:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope he had his Preparation-H applied before the lights went out or Jeffress may smell like Preparation-H for days to come! And who knows where Wells would have put it in the dark! lolmao

6:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And who knows where Wells would have put it in the dark!"

Preparation-H rules! Wells uses it for after shave. LOL!

6:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After 30 days of Preparation-H on the face a person might look like this

lolmao

6:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know, don't say it, my bad! lol

6:24 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

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6:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, you are bad. It's time to put soap in your mouth. I hope I don't look like that pic! lol

6:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry, you won't look like that, unless you're using Preparation-H as after shave! Look honey, my nose is gone! lmao

7:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hope that the small one doesn't use Preparation H on his little family jewels. How can he and Judy shag on that revolving bed? lol

7:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A little dab will do ya for the small one's family jewels! lol

Did Judy say, honey, where did they go?

Special times with the small one were like a carnival ride on the little frog! roflmao

7:45 PM  
Blogger PrissyPatriot said...

An X gf thought Fitzgerald was a flirt? That would not be the descriptive word I would have used for the special prosecutor hehe

7:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Special times with the small one were like a carnival ride on the little frog!"

The little frog...Ha Ha! Good one...

7:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon,

Where you do you get your sense of humor from? ;-)

8:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon,

Are you talking to me? lol
If so, take a guess. ;)

8:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Are you talking to me?"

Who do you think I am talking to? The small one? lol

10:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The small one? lol

Well, to answer your question, years ago I heard there was going to be a shortage on sense of humor. So, I went out and bought all the sense of humor that I could find and stashed it in big boxes! I still plenty of boxes of humor left but will probably last me for the rest of my life! lmao

10:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Well, to answer your question, years ago I heard there was going to be a shortage on sense of humor."

I wish for people had a box of humor to stash. I see too many people that are walking around like monsters with zero feelings. They act like robots: "cannot compute. Work work work." At least you don't act like the VP that looks like he is so constipated when he doesn't get his way. If I had a Scooter lookalike that I looked at everyday, I wouldn't need a box of humor! lol

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, my dad was a comedian and I grew up with comedy my entire life. Everyday was filled with laughter. I only remember one day that I ever saw my dad sad and crying and that was when his mother died. So, I laid down beside him and cried too. (I was just a little girl but if my daddy was crying, it was bad enough for me to cry too.)

What about you? Where did you get your sense of humor?

10:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If I had a Scooter lookalike that I looked at everyday, I wouldn't need a box of humor! lol"

Wouldn't we all? The small one would be the instant laugh of the day! lmao

10:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The small one would be the instant laugh of the day!"

Actually, it would keep a smile on my face everyday. lol

11:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I AM says:
I Love you And you Are Mine. All of you. My Love and Mercy are infinite. Never forget that.

11:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How could you work laughing at the small one all day? lol

Do we have a 3rd Anon here?

11:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"How could you work laughing at the small one all day?"

Multi-tasking.. I certainly couldn't work with the small one because I get no work done! lol

Have no idea who the 3rd Anon is. That Anon sounds like a new version of the flower child: peace and love...

11:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You could put his photo on your desk and when you want a good laugh just look at it. Especially, if you get a photo of his "love butt" tattoo. lol

Yeah, everyone is here on these two threads reading the comedy show. No one is writing, just you and I Anon, everyone else is reading. lmao

11:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Especially, if you get a photo of his 'love butt' tattoo." Now, I would never get any work done. I would be laughing the entire day. lol

Let everyone read our writings. Do you think we should start our own comedy show: the anon and anon show?

11:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The anon and anon show?
Sure but don't make me wear a paper bag over my head! No love butt tattoos either! lol

11:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"No love butt tattoos either!" That's for the the small one. No tweezers allowed on the anon show!

lol

11:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, no tweezers on the show but what about duct tape, WD-40, a magnifying glass, clothes pin and hot wax? lmao

12:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"what about duct tape, WD-40, a magnifying glass, clothes pin and hot wax?"

And no shopping bags full of notes and worn panties!lol

12:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No shopping bags and worn panties but can I bring the small one with me? I want him back! lol

12:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I want him back!"

I want the small one back! lmao

12:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I want the small one back!" roflmao

Where do you want to open this show? Vegas? DC? lol

Wouldn't the lawyer of the year just die if we joked about his Bean-O, Preparation-H and crying for the small one back, in a real life comedy show? lmao

12:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Where do you want to open this show? Vegas? DC?"

Certainly not Vegas. That would remind me of Britney Spears. DC? Hmmm. Maybe.. D.C. has been shag city for so long. I think we should put a little spice into D.C. lol

Hold that thought about a real life comedy show. Got to run, love. It's getting late here in the Midwest. Let's continue this tomorrow. Night. ;-)

12:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't you want to see the new shaved, tattooed Britney? lol

I will sleep on that thought.

Good night again ;)

1:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I won't sleep on the thought of shaved and tattooed Britney! lol

I meant, the thought of the comedy show! lmao

2:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

strange stars around this man. strong medicine. He moves in winds of change, vigorous health, and new life for this darkened land.

11:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I won't sleep on the thought of shaved and tattooed Britney!'

The love butt tattoo rules! lol

11:31 PM  
Blogger jan said...

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8:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The love butt tattoo rules!"

omg roflmao

12:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are so shocked, Mr. Private Anon? Only Judy knows where Scooter's secret tattoo is. lol

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Ms. Knows All Too Well Everything said...

Mr. Private, are you sure she found it? She still carries that magnifying glass, duct tape, and clothes pin in her shopping bag! lol

3:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And breast milk! Yes, those sagging foundations work!

Breast milk rules! lmao

3:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Breast milk rules!" lol

Does Judy have it in baby bottles? Does she get past the airport security with those bottles of small one's breast milk? roflmao

3:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Does Judy have it in baby bottles?"

Sure, she does. She make sure her baby Scooter get his Vitamin D. She keeps her breast pump in her shopping bag! lol

5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I found this breast pump in Judy's shopping bag and I thought it was for Scooter.

Small one loses again! lol

5:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your are bad! lol

11:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon, I'm really good but you are a bad influence on me! It's all your fault! rofl

11:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anon, I'm really good but you are a bad influence on me! It's all your fault!"

Don't blame me, Anon. Sounds like you are throwing me under the bus. I thought we were buddies? lol

2:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, sorry about that! I had a brain fart and thought I was a Neocon for a minute there! I always wondered how it would feel to throw you under the bus! lmao We are best buddies! ;)

2:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I always wondered how it would feel to throw you under the bus!"

Go gentle on me. Of course we are buddies! ;) lol

5:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay Anon I'll be nice to you at least for the rest of today! lol

5:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Okay Anon I'll be nice to you at least for the rest of today!"

I'm afraid about tomorrow from you. lol

6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Silly, I will be here with more trash! lol

6:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Silly, I will be here with more trash!"

lmao

6:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With this White House I will have trash talk for a long time! lol

8:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe that is the cause of the global warming: the trash from the WH for 6 years. lol

10:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The WH has become nothing but a landfill of fools and trash warming the globe! lol

10:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The WH has become nothing but a landfill of fools and trash warming the globe!"

lmao

11:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch some land developer read that comment and try to buy up that landfill to build homes on! lol

12:03 AM  

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