Nov 25, 2006

Knock Knock..!

Can Judy and Philip come out to play?

N.Y. Times Seeks to Bar Me From Reviewing Phone Data

The case arose from a Chicago grand jury’s investigation into who told the two reporters, Judith Miller and Philip Shenon, about actions the government was planning to take in 2001 against two Islamic charities. The United States attorney in Chicago, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, sought the reporters’ records directly from their phone companies, and The Times filed suit to stop him.

In August, a divided three-judge panel of the federal appeals court in Manhattan ruled in favor of Mr. Fitzgerald, saying the reporters were not entitled to shield their sources. The needs of law enforcement, the majority said, outweighed any protections the reporters might have in the First Amendment or other areas of law.


Ms. Miller left the paper last year after spending 85 days in jail in connection with a separate leak investigation, also supervised by Mr. Fitzgerald. <
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fitz darling, let's settle this privately? Imagine you and me on a date - a very special date.

5:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..can I go and take pictures Fitz ?

5:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm...

“If the government is permitted to proceed to scrutinize the telephone records of The New York Times and its journalists,” Mr. Abrams said, “it will be in a position to identify literally scores of confidential sources, thus imperiling both the ability of the press to gather the news and of the public to learn it.”

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

keep your hands of my free press.

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't go so far as to call Judy a "journalist." Take her phone records!

5:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nevermind the Times, Fitz. Go after the Riggs Bank for handling the Saudi 9/11 hijacker's money.

6:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who were "the cable guys" who took care of the WTC before 9/11?

6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How did WTC7 get pulled when it was too hot to put out the fire? Who planted the explosives to pull it, if no one could get in? It went down at the speed of acceleration due to gravity. The first thing Steve Jones asked for was the official footing of its collapse so he could confirm it went down in about 7 seconds.

That would mean there was no resistance.

6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who faked the Niger uranium letter?

6:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/25/us/25paper.html

6:11 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

I keep telling people that the Patriot Act has replaced the Constitution and it's Amendments but people keep denying it.

Even the Media is in denial...

It's like the first time you get arrested. You think hey I'm a good person I'll never get arrested then when you do you ask...

When did these laws get implemented ?

Geez, I had no idea it was like this...

The First time is the Eye opener baby...

6:32 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Well, well, well, Judy "looking for Ms. Goodbar" Miller is back in the news. And it is interesting that she on her soap box about the journalist's freedon of speech and press. I am all for the 1st amendment but I am not for a journalist that lies to her newspaper, collegues, and boss about have a security clearance card and having a roll in the hay a few times with the gnome Libby for a scoop.

6:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.total411.info/

Scroll down to the Sunday comics for Judy.

7:22 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Punch and who ?

Ohhh...Punch and Judy!!

;)

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Fitz darling, let's settle this privately? Imagine you and me on a date - a very special date."

*lol*

Fitz:

Make sure you have all of shots taken. She can give you more than just the bird flu!

7:54 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Waxman Has Bush Administration in Sights

Go Waxman. Just one testicle at a time...

8:11 PM  
Blogger jan said...

Oo,Oo! I've been wondering about that incident and if any more was going to be known about how and why they tipped off those folk... hmmmm.

8:46 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

Overall, I am not a fan of reporters having to turn over their sources, however; in some cases I believe it is warranted.

Judith Miller does not have much credibility with me...in this case, I hope Fitzie gets his way. Tipping off terrorists is a no no...

9:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, this is an interesting dilemma. to decide which has the higher authority is a tough one. i wonder what pat really thinks???

9:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well that's something you neglected to remind us JB's of... Fitzgerald on Nov. 13 that says the time for filing criminal charges will expire in the next three weeks.
Temporarily blocking the government from reviewing the phone records would cause "irreparable harm to a significant criminal investigation,"

Take her phone records, Fitz-she isn't even a good blogger let alone journalist and she has a history of gaining illicit information in ethical questionable ways-and propping up illegal schemes (taking a country to war based on fraud WMD's) Elizabeth del la Vegas book lays out a potential indictment and Miller has her role.

Tell Judy military families hope she is never paid for another lying word

10:06 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Hmmmm...


Insurgency for Dollars


BAGHDAD, Nov. 25 — The insurgency in Iraq is now self-sustaining financially, raising tens of millions of dollars a year from oil smuggling, kidnapping, counterfeiting, corrupt charities and other crimes that the Iraqi government and its American patrons have been largely unable to prevent, a classified United States government report has concluded.

The report, obtained by The New York Times, estimates that groups responsible for many of the insurgent and terrorist attacks are raising $70 million to $200 million a year from illegal activities. It says that $25 million to $100 million of the total comes from oil smuggling and other criminal activity involving the state-owned oil industry aided by “corrupt and complicit” Iraqi officials

10:07 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

T:

Ms. Miller will have to hand over the phone records because the Gerbil changed the first amendment rights of freedom and press for all the journalists. That is why she was jailed 85 days for not revealing her sources. The same law that is supposed to protect journalists of their sources and private information is not a protection for Ms. Miller. Also, keep in mind about Bill Clinton. Even as a sitting President, the Supreme Court unanimously rejected Clinton to have immunity for having a civil lawsuit in the Paula Jones case. The Supreme Court said that all citizens must abide by the law. And that includes a President who is in office and out of office. And that was the Supreme Court and GOP's biggest mistake. Because that same ruling by the Supreme Court by Clinton is a standing case law. Cheney is saying that he has immunity in any civil lawsuits. Of course, Cheney, Rove, and Libby are not exempt from immunity.. Cheney didn't think that the Clinton/Paula Jones civil case would come back and bite him in the ass. My hats off to the Wilsons' trial attorney, Joseph Cotchett for digging up that case.

10:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey boys be sure and check your boys regularly

The number of young British men who check their testicles for signs of cancer has tripled in a decade, research suggests.

In 1990 only 10% of men checked their testicles, but this increased to more than 36% by 2000.

11:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SPB,
Cheney didn't think that the Clinton/Paula Jones civil case would come back and bite him in the ass.
Oh yes it did. I had the case cited in April. Why do you think I get so impatient;-)
---------
JB's who haven't read it yet may be interested:
LANDMARK LEGAL FOUNDATION Can A President Be Indicted While in Office, Or Must He First Be Impeached?

BY MARK R. LEVIN AND ARTHUR F. FERGENSON (Readers, this was written with Bill Clinton in mind)

An excerpt from the Landmark Legal Brief:

Second, the language in Article I, Section 3 makes clear that impeachment is not an exclusive remedy. A president is still subject to criminal prosecution, if warranted. He can be impeached and removed from office, but this is a limited remedy. Given this limitation, the Founding Fathers wanted to make clear that impeachment would not immunize a president and bar subsequent criminal prosecution. Obviously, this concern only arises in cases where impeachment precedes criminal prosecution. Therefore, if criminal prosecution precedes impeachment, it is not an issue.

Criminal prosecution and conviction does not remove a president from office. Impeachment is the only mechanism for his removal, absent issues of disability. Therefore, there was no question when the Constitution was written that impeachment would be available after a criminal prosecution. Consequently, there was no need for the Founding Fathers to provide language that preserves the impeachment power after a criminal prosecution.

Moreover, if a president truly believes that it is unconstitutional to indict a sitting president, the president has the power to stop the indictment against himself, or direct its withdrawal. He also has the power to grant himself an unconditional and complete pardon and thereby bar the prosecution. Since he has these powers, if an indictment is brought against him by the United States - meaning, by the Executive Branch that he heads - and he asks a court to dismiss it, he is asking for an advisory opinion. Under the Constitution, federal courts are forbidden from issuing advisory opinions. They do not exist to relieve the president from difficult political decisions. This is so even if the decision could lead to his impeachment and removal from office.

The possibility of impeachment does not immunize the president from criminal prosecution. He remains, at all times, a citizen of the United States who is answerable to the law.
-----

11:29 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

Have you seen Judith lately?

I think she is in a state of denial...

Sweet dreams JBs...

11:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

clinton and jones had nothing to do with a function of the office of the president per se. and even if miller is a shill for the gerbil, she still is the press.

11:44 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

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12:00 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Fly on the wall:

cheney's case has to do with executive privilege. Ms. Miller's case has to do with her first amendment rights and the fact that the Gerbil changed national security to chip away the rights of a journalist and the public.

T:

I wouldn't be too impatient of the Ambien. He is in too much trouble other than the civil lawsuit. Let's not forget about Waxman and the investigation into KBR-Halliburton. Also, since you mention your article in April, let's not forget that the Gerbil gave Cheney executive privilege on March 2003 which at the time in when Cheney had set up a meeting on March of 2003. And in that meeting was himself, Scooter, Hadley, Rove, and several State dept. officials. That is when he masterminded a plan to discredit Wilson. Funny how that date will come back to haunt Cheney!!!

CC:

Scary pic of Miller. Make sure she shaves! LOL!

12:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who is answerable to the law ? There are only a handful of honest lawyers on the planet..........Obviously Fitz must be one . We have companies in Florida who were phone records. Greenberg Taurig is the registered agent for one. The pussy AG of FL , CC, gave them a limp slap of the wrist but the FBI confiscated the phone records. And as for Homeland FUU , I'm sure they steal as they like. But Patrick, you are so cute , if you want any of mine ........ I'll mail or ask the IG's office. No one bothers to ask me. I rarely talk on the phone.

12:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make sure Mr Fitzgerald has a rabies shot, Ms Miller looks like a biter!!

12:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh yeah...And in that meeting was himself, Scooter, Hadley, Rove, and several State dept. officials. That is when he masterminded a plan to discredit Wilson

Yes, now I recall those state dept officials there too...

Thanks for that reminder SPB, I'm going to go over my notes and maybe do a timeline. There are certainly plenty of indictables to go around for all of them!

12:17 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Final posting. Update on the Fitz/Miller saga:

Gov't asks court not to block records

WASHINGTON - The Justice Department on Saturday asked the Supreme Court to refrain from stepping into another First Amendment battle featuring federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and The New York Times.

Boo Ya!!!

Fitz:

See if you can find a human condom to protect you from Miller. She dumped the gnome that is going to prison and is now eyeing the rugby man. Better you than me. I won't touch that creature! Good night! Biloxi out!

12:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and that's the point SPB. looks like the supreme court gets to decide.

12:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic

Well this is a interesting twist to the story-


Murdered Russian ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko passed documents to former Yukos CEO in Israel months before his death - report

November 25, 2006, 9:10 AM

Leonid Nevzlin, former CEO of the oil giant and current chairman of the Diaspora Museum in Tel Aviv, says the former Russian spy came to Israel with classified documents on Yukos which may be damaging to Russian leaders. Nevzliln estimates that Litvinenko’s death was connected with this information, which he has handed to London police investigators of the murder.

DEBKAfile’s intelligence sources add that the Russian ex-spy is believed to have been a double agent, who sold trade secrets to different parties in and outside Russia, among them some of the Russian oligarchs living in exile in the West.

--------over and out comrades;-)

12:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.romm.org/prescott.html

This item goes into a little more background about Bush family-nazi connections. It is off topic for this thread, but relates to a link s-q posted on a previous thread. How on earth did Prescott Bush make the transition from being a banker to the nazis to US Senator?

12:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so pat, what do you think about freedom of the the press and the extent of executive privilege? come to taverse city and have dinner with dean and grant and mark and me and we will discuss it. you pay of course.

4:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two articles from two UK newspapers, the first from The Mail on Sunday, the second from The Independent

Exclusive: Sushi bar man is nuclear waste expert

Mysterious past of last man to meet dead Russian
The last person to meet Alexander Litvinenko before he succumbed to the agonising effects of radioactive poisoning is a self-professed expert in nuclear materials.

http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
pages/live/articles/news/news.html?
in_article_id=418642&in_page_id=1770&ico=
Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NEWS&ct=5

Cobra meets over fears about assassination squad

John Reid, the Home Secretary, chaired an emergency meeting of Cobra, the Downing Street crisis team, yesterday over fears that the murder of ex-Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko could mean an assassination squad is targeting dissidents in London.

http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=
http://news.independent.co.uk/
uk/politics/article2013335.ece

6:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more from The Independent (that would really make my day, to see the little bitch end his political career in disgrace!)

Loans for honours: Tony Blair could lose his seat

Tony Blair could be forced by law to stand down from Parliament if he did not reveal the full truth about millionaire Labour donors whom he nominated to the House of Lords.

http://news.independent.co.uk/
uk/politics/article2016138.ece

6:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And one from AP, Los Angeles

Waxman Has Bush Administration in Sights

In January, Waxman becomes committee chairman - and thus the lead congressional hound of an administration many Democrats feel has blundered badly as it expanded the power of the executive branch.
Waxman's biggest challenge as he mulls what to probe?
"The most difficult thing will be to pick and choose," he said.
The choices he makes could help define Bush's legacy.
"There is just no question that life is going to be different for the administration," said Rep. Tom Davis, R-Va., the current committee chairman. "Henry is going to be tough. ... And he's been waiting a long time to be able to do this."

6:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More on Litvinenko death

Camera footage studied in spy's radiation death
Reuters
Saturday, November 25, 2006

Police were studying security camera footage on Saturday after finding radioactive traces at three London locations visited by an ex-KGB spy who accused Vladimir Putin of his murder in a deathbed statement.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/
articles/november2006/251106footage.htm

7:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Neocons and neocons lite!

Steny Hoyer, nicknamed “boy wonder,” is speaking tough to the besieged Iraqis.

Hoyer, as incoming House Majority Leader, wants the Iraqis to understand they only have themselves to blame for all the murder and misery in their country. “In the days ahead, the Iraqis must make the tough decisions and accept responsibility for their future,” said Hoyer during the weekly Democratic radio address. “And the Iraqis must know: Our commitment, while great, is not unending.”

“Once in power, Hoyer said, the Democrats hope to work with Republicans and the Bush administration to change direction in Iraq war plans,” reports ABC News.

Please note: Hoyer didn’t say the Democrats will end the “war” in Iraq. He said they will work with the Bush administration, that is to say the perfidious neocons.

All of this should be nothing new. Democrats have repeatedly expressed their approval of decimating Iraq and reducing it to a depleted uranium wasteland where, one day, the living will envy the dead. Last November, for instance, the Democrats voted their approval, by a 37 to 6 margin, for a Republican amendment in support of the neocon policy on the Iraq war. Not surprisingly, they also voted to support the illegal torture and internment of dirt farmers and hapless Muslims at Guantánamo.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/
articles/november2006/251106Democrats.htm

7:11 AM  
Blogger Kay Shelton said...

Folks (mostly Anthony), all the Russian oligarchs think the world revolves around them (Boris Berezovski, Leonid Nevzlin formerly of YUKOS, etc.). Litvinenko got passed tons of information from people from all over, more than he could ever handle. There will probably be a few more people/groups who come forward and say they gave such and such to Litvinenko and he was killed for that.

Some of those super-rich dudes from Russia were very 'creative' about how they obtained all those hundreds of millions of dollars because they took advantage of the situation under the drunken Yeltsin, especially people like Boris Berezovski and Leonid Nevzlin. Then, the Russian people had enough of the "new Russians" and wanted Putin in to clean up the place, which he did. Some of those former Russians hiding out in other countries are not innocent by any means; they went to the West to cry about Putin. Going after them really does not stain Putin's reputation. Some of those folks are guilty of money grubbing, greed, and corruption.

The PATRIOT Act is kid's play compared to the restrictions on the press in Russia under Putin. Foreign journalists who used to be let in to cover Chechnya cannot even get visas anymore to go to places like Moscow, forget about going south. Domestic journalists have very little freedom--there's barely been any coverage about Litvinenko in the usual Russian media compared to how much coverage there has been in other countries. Over the past few years, the war deadliest for journalists was not Iraq, it was Chechnya. Journalists covering stories about greedy people who stole millions under Yeltsin do not have the same problems/restrictions that journalists trying to cover Chechnya do.

Putin is not hiding anything about going after the business leaders who lined their own pockets under the drunken Yeltsin. He has a lot to hide about Chechnya.

If Putin is ordering the assassinations, the rich Russian exiles have nothing to fear because enough people are now finger pointing at him. A smart man would then back off. If there are more assassinations and they include more rich exiles, then that would be an indication that Putin does not have control over his security people, or he is more power hungry and arrogant than I think. I wrote 'more' because one of those rich greedy guys was killed as a message to the rest of them.

Litvinenko did not die quickly like whomever planned. That got the world's attention, plus it did give the Brits time to start putting together the pieces. Because it was more sensational than the Russian journalist's killing which was made to look like a simple mob hit, then it really got everyone's attention.

Whomever could not simply shoot Litvinenko with a gun, because he is in London where that would trigger an investigation. The journalist could be killed in Moscow with something simple like a gun because Russians are running that 'investigation.' Someone needed to be more creative with Litvinenko, but him living for weeks and the Brits figuring out what was the cause was not in the plan. Him blaming Putin from his deathbed was also not in the plan either.

I am sure the rich Russian exiles are all on edge. That's OK, they can afford their own security details, they do not need to mooch security from Scotland Yard, which is what they are trying to do now.

8:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Palestinian population had no part whatsoever in the “relocation” of part of Europe’s problems to the Near East.

No one - not even the brainwashed - can deny this fact.

So it is not only Israel that has a right to special attention, consideration and friendly criticism from Germany (and Europe). As Germans, Austrians and Europeans, we are not only co-responsible for the existence of Israel, which must be secured without reservations for the future now that history has taken this path, but also co-responsible for the living conditions of the Palestinian people and a self-determined future for them.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.
com/node/152http://

After reels of Hollywood films castigating Germans, generations of unqualified remorse, and decades of steady reparations, Israelis figured they had a pretty solid grip on the German psyche, not to mention their bank accounts.

But, apparently, all good things come to an end - even for the Chosen Ones - as evidenced by the sincere questions raised by 25 German peace researchers in the wake of Israel's recent conflict in Lebanon.

Millions are thinking the same thing about Israel. The leadership of Israel along with the U.S.'s actions are being looked at closely by all of humanity.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/
0,7340,L-3332727,00.html

Meanwhile, Palestinian Authority officials worked to overcome the embarrassment caused by the rocket fire on Israel earlier in the day. Government spokesman Ghazi Hamad said the Authority would investigate as to who carried out the Qassam fire, adding that all the Palestinian factions have agreed to the calm and no one is authorized to breach it.

In the afternoon President Mahmoud Abbas ordered the heads of Palestinian security forces to probe the Qassam attacks and ensure that Gaza militants respect the ceasefire with Israel; however, Palestinian security officials said an increase in the presence of officers in north Gaza is not expected, in hopes that the agreement itself would bring about the cessation of rocket fire on Israel.

They should find and expose the person/people responsible to the world.

8:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lady@11:12pm.

Depleted uranium use, no doubt. Courtesy of Poppy and Jr. Bush, Clinton too. Deny, divert, deny some more.

ANYONE in those areas, including the unborn and children, are suffering greatly. For the U.S and Brits, it is the "gift" brought home to the family.

There is no excuse and it has been going on since the first Gulf War. Wonder what those powerful sand storms are doing to those particles? Talk about blow back.

8:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
article/0,,11069-1433353,00.html

THE Pentagon is considering forming hit squads of Kurdish and Shia fighters to target leaders of the Iraqi insurgency in a strategic shift borrowed from the American struggle against left-wing guerrillas in Central America 20 years ago.

Under the so-called “El Salvador option”, Iraqi and American forces would be sent to kill or kidnap insurgency leaders, even in Syria, where some are thought to shelter.

Are thinking of doing this? Many have thought it has been done for awhile now. Must get those bases built to control the world...

9:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/
node/153

Leonid Nevzlin, former CEO of the oil giant and current chairman of the Diaspora Museum in Tel Aviv, says the former Russian spy came to Israel with classified documents on Yukos which may be damaging to Russian leaders. Nevzliln estimates that Litvinenko’s death was connected with this information, which he has handed to London police investigators of the murder.

The plot thickens.

9:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/
11/23/leaked-drug-company-memo_n_
34802.html

A post-election e-mail to executives at the drug company GlaxoSmithKline details just how tough. "We now have fewer allies in the Senate," says the internal memo, obtained by The Washington Post. "Thus, there is greater risk over the next two years that bad amendments will be offered to pending legislation." The company's primary concerns are bills that would allow more imported drugs and would force price competition for drugs bought under Medicare.

The defeat of Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) "creates a big hole we will need to fill," the e-mail says. Sen.-elect Jon Tester (D-Mont.) "is expected to be a problem," it says, and the elevation to the Senate of Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) "will strengthen his ability to challenge us."

Everyone should watch the drug companies closely, Americans are sick of their tactics and their perks to politicians. Damn any congressman or above that works on behalf of these thieves.

9:30 AM  
Blogger teak said...

Bush climbed through Republican politics to become Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) during the Ford Administration. After spending four years displaced by the Carter Administration, Bush was now Reagan’s Vice President with Executive Order authority for the National Security Council (NSC) and U.S. intelligence and enforcement agencies. Bush’s new authority was married with expanded powers to outsource sensitive work to private contractors. Such work could be funded through the non-transparent financial mechanisms available through the National Security Act of 1947, and the CIA Act of 1949.

http://www.dunwalke.com/
1_Brady_Bush_Bechtel.htm

Interesting article.

9:45 AM  
Blogger Kay Shelton said...

Speaking of which, your tax dollars at work:

Results of the CIA hiring an ad agency

9:53 AM  
Blogger teak said...

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/
11/25/america/NA_GEN_US_CIA_
Recruitment.php

Couldn't get that link to work, is this it?

10:05 AM  
Blogger Kay Shelton said...

Teak, yes that is it. I bet something funky happens when trying to link to an https site instead of regular http site. I tried to post the direct link. There is a convoluted way to get there, click then link at the end of the Herald Tribune article, then click CIA Careers, then click Personality Test.

Man, is that goofy personality test ever a waste of tax dollars!!

8:31 PM  

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