May 14, 2006

Mulling Over Rolling Over...

Karl, are you thinking about IT?


Blogger Roger Rancourt said...

Yes the squeeze.....That never-ending squeeze!

Biloxi, how do you take your fried Hindrind and Little Soldier after a day's BBQ?


All one of them has to do is rat out Cheney, in the end, the only thing they care about is themselves.

5:16 PM  
Blogger teak said...

Better get your soap on a rope, Karl.

5:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you kidding me? Rove will volunteer to be shower attendant.

5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All Karl really needs is a good supply of KY Jelly.
He needs to be lubricated!
Greased Pig!

5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jason Leopold defended his story in an interview with Ian Masters on KPFK. Bottom line: when Friday night negotiations broke down in the offices of Patton-Boggs, Fitz handed one of Rove’s lawyers a sealed indictment and said “…[Rove] has 24 business hors to get his affairs in order.”

Leopold says that “…an announcement could come anytime after Monday night.”

Leopold claims to have more than one source for this info and that these sources know that they’ll be outed if they’ve burned him.

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

leopold stated that the announcement that bolton would be shaking up the wh staff came after he had been informed by rove that he was meeting with the gj for a fifth time.

leopold doesn’t seem to understand the meaning of a sealed indictment, as he states that he believes that the indictment that fitz gave to luskin was “sealed” because it was not yet made public, at which point it would be unsealed. this is not my understanding of the definition of “sealed”, so leopold loses some credibility here although he acknowledges that he is not a lawyer and seems confused about this point.

leopold believes the indictment will be made public any time this week, after monday, which is the expiration of the 24 business hours. does believe that it will be this week and not later. [so announcement will be made any time from Tues through Fri - we will hear somethign this week]

leopold stated that luskin, not fitz, was the one who requested the fifth gj appearance. [i’m not sure that we knew this yet here at fdl - although not sure whether i trust leopold on the legal stuff very much]

leopold closed by stating that he and truthout fully understand the significance of this story. this is not a story that he and truthout would go with if they were “not confident that the details were bulletproof”

5:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Johnny Reb
When Rove makes it to prison, here is a little advice to his fellow inmates. When showering near Rove
and you drop your soap DO NOT BEND OVER TO PICK IT UP.

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Kathleen said...

A big question is will he plead cooperation for a reduced sentence and out Cheney?

I'd say that's likelier than even Libby doing it, because such cowards are bullies. I mean the other way around.

But actually I am more concerned with these assholes pulling another 9/11 stunt and taking the whole country down with them.


6:21 PM  
Anonymous jayt @ 195 said...

You’ve left out one major aspect of many legal negotiations - the discussions between the target and the target’s lawyer.

Luskin: “Karl, you know and I know that your case is crap.”
Rove: “I don’t care.”
Luskin: “Karl, Fitz has the goods on you.”
Rove: “So? This case will play in the papers, not the courts, so why do I care if he has the goods?”
Luskin: “Karl, as your attorney [NOTE: this phrase is always, ALWAYS a tipoff phrase for a CYA manuever], I am obliged to recommend that you take the deal.”
Rove: “Deal, schmeal - I ain’t gonna squeal.”
Luskin: “Squeal or not, but once Fitz decides he doesn’t need you, you’re toast. The more that I hear about Cheney’s handwriting on Wilson’s op-ed, the more I think this is your last chance. The media called you ‘Bush’s Brain’ - why don’t you use it for yourself, once and a while?”

The dialogue between Fitz and Luskin was probably fairly short - I agree that there’s no way that they go at it for 15 hours - but the back and forth between Luskin and Rove could go on for 15 weeks (and maybe it has!). Meanwhile, while Luskin tried to talk some sense into his client, Fitz just sits back in another conference room and catches up on some of his reading . . . smiling all the way.

Favorite song on Fitz’s ipod is from Blondie: “One way, or another, I’m gonna find ya, I’m gonna getcha, getcha, getcha . . .”

Crank it up loud, folks - all week long!

6:23 PM  
Anonymous 6 Miles said...

PJF and team
here just about every day for the past 6 months..and most importantly in the past 3 weeks. Almost gave up that you were going to corner the rat [A] have and hopefully have rat A+ .. which gets rat A++.

You all have worked tirelessly, faithfully, to the letter of the law, to bring justice to the fore and in the process, restore the basis of the Constitution.

With this indictment and the one that will follow [Ahem, A+], you have staved off World War III ... with Iran pushed to the brink along with Putin ... the lying crooks occupying the Oval, the White House, the entire Congress,


You're making history, bringing the most corrupt Administration to its very knees.. the likes of which this country has not seen before and hopefully will not again ..

The Presidential Powers of Corruption must cease.. and with this you are getting the head of the very monster that holds it in its vice.

God Bless You PJF and Team!
Pass the twizzlers. I'm liking this better than ANY show, ever before seen in the USofA.

6:50 PM  
Anonymous e said...

I think in all the news and etc. How does a press corp look at the deeds of
Karl Christian Rove..
with the admiration they have expressed in his power by the aticles they have written..
I have no respect for them or Rove..
They are all cut from the same cloth..
It is so fitting that Rove end his
Turdblossom days in the bed he created for himself to lie in...
Fitting name too...
I just cringe when I think that this man occupied space in The Peoples House..I hope they will all get their just rewards

6:57 PM  
Blogger Roger Rancourt said...

For Firedoglake,

If you are not aware, this is the real Fitzgerald blog and his staff is here periodically...sometimes they also post here 24/7.

Leopold is no expert lawyer, but he is correct about the sealed indictments. What that essentially means, is Gonzales meets with them and the prosecutor meets with the jury handing the indictments up to the Court Clerks.

The press announcement would then follow right after, aka tomorrow or directly after that-no later.

Truly sealed indictments do not get released until the court agrees to release them- as Tom Heneghan stated back in around June of this year.

He was correct in that there are pending sealed indictments against Cheney & others. One or all of them could be released, when the courts agree and the Israel espionage case hits closure.

What Jason was saying is the opposite of a truly sealed indictment, he said they "were filled under seal" which is the correct procedure right before press announcements.

On the opposite end, sealed indictments, which Judge Walton still actually has as does Judge Flip, are released and issued whenever the parties finally agree to it and are convinced national security is not a problem.

Cheney is already out and under the bus, he committed treason with the so called "israel first" cabal and they are only counting the days......until that indictment document is released.

7:24 PM  
Anonymous e said...

where can I read the isreal first

7:41 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

24 hours to get your personal matters in order says it all. As for what Karl is thinking I'd say " how the hell am I going to get out of this".

8:40 PM  
Blogger bushhound said...

So, Fitz, is there going to be a frogmarch for Rove or is he just going to show up at the Federal Building for a quickie booking like they did for DeLay?

I'd like to see Rove smile like that... Does he have it in him?

9:17 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...


Yes, it is the squeeze. The squeeze on Porkrind and Dead Eye Dick... I like my fried Hindrind, Little Soldier, and so to be indicted "Red Bull" Cheney on a platter with some gravy!!! My favorite drink is lame duck Gerbil cocktail along with Hadley/Badly pie!

I agree the one thing that they care about is themselves. On the other hand, the Gerbil only cares about is the bottle!!!!

9:37 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

And Anon,

Porkrind is really need a care package of KY Jelly in a his prison cell. You never know if he may have a "brokeback" moment!

9:39 PM  
Blogger Roger Rancourt said...

Much more to go on out there.

10:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The frogmarch of Rove to me has already been alluded to by Fitz as to be happening May 17th. If one noticed the date in the Washington Post headline he put up a couple posts ago. I wondered if anyone else caught that and I am sure most people probably did.


10:23 PM  
Blogger jan said...

What if I wake up Tomorrow and hear of another liberty I have lost but nothing is done? What if I wake up Tues. and nothing is said or done? What if I wake up over and over like it's Ground Hogs Day and just live this way, were every feels something is so wrong but nothing is ever done?

10:53 PM  
Blogger Trittydi said...

I suspect that "Ben Dover" will be Karl's best friend in prison .... It would be fun if Karl was suddenly inundated with anomymous gifts of KY jelly ....

I wonder if Karl has any sense of the justice of his indictment - unlikely I know - but since he surely knew he was breaking the law, I would like to think he at least understood that he did it to himself.

12:18 AM  
Blogger basheert said...

Roll me Over
In the Clover
Roll me over
Lay me down
and do it Again!

(sorry - angst!)

12:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Was it an improbable outside-the-Beltway scoop on the ultimate inside-the-Beltway story? A criminal leak concerning the grand jury investigation of a criminal leak? Or just a red-hot rumor that caught fire in the dry tinder of too many trial attorneys?

Whatever it was, the news that White House adviser Karl Rove had been indicted for perjury electrified the 700 or so lawyers, judges and elected officials (including featured speakers Gov. Jennifer Granholm and U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.) gathered at the Dearborn Hyatt Regency for Saturday night's annual banquet of the Michigan Trial Lawyers Association.

Until they found out that maybe he hadn't been.

MTLA Vice President Robert Raitt was heading toward the podium to introduce Clinton, the banquet's keynote speaker, when Gerald Acker, a Southfield trial attorney and prominent Democratic fund-raiser, mentioned Rove's indictment.

Raitt didn't question the report. "Gerry is pretty connected," he explained Sunday, "and I thought, well, that'll get this crowd going."

A couple of minutes later, Raitt brought the heavily Democratic audience to its feet with the, um, news.

Among those who declined to join the standing ovation was Michigan Court of Appeals Chief Judge William Whitbeck, one of the few Republican officeholders in attendance. He said it struck him as odd that federal prosecutors had chosen to announce such a significant development on a Saturday night, but he left the banquet convinced that Rove's indictment was a fait accompli.

Twenty-four hours later, that was still in doubt. A few Democrat-friendly Web sites, including www., reported as early as Saturday afternoon that Rove's arrest was imminent. But by Sunday evening no reputable broadcast or print outlet had published the rumor.

Sunday, an embarrassed Acker told me he'd passed along the report of Rove's indictment after hearing it from Mark J. Bernstein, an Ann Arbor lawyer whose resume includes a stint in the Bill Clinton White House.

Bernstein told me he was meeting with Hillary Clinton and several members of her staff in a Hyatt Regency reception room early Saturday evening when "everybody began reaching for their BlackBerrys at roughly the same time."

He insisted that simultaneous e-mails reporting Rove's indictment were based on Internet speculation, not unauthorized disclosures of grand jury proceedings.

"Did anyone speak to the special prosecutor? No. Would I have published the report? No," Bernstein said Sunday. He learned the rumor had been disseminated only when his father, prominent personal injury lawyer Sam Bernstein, phoned from the banquet hall downstairs with an excited bulletin: "Karl Rove has just been indicted!"

Granholm, who hadn't made her way into the banquet when Raitt made his premature announcement, came away with more than a dubious rumor. Her campaign grossed $525,000 at a $1,000-a-head MTLA fund-raiser immediately preceding the dinner -- enough for three or four days of TV advertising at the blistering pace set by Republican rival Dick DeVos.

5:47 AM  
Blogger Charles said...

Fritz guided up down the yellow brick road.

We were afraid as we expected to see a raging mad Oz, ten feet tall and breathing fire.

We stood in awe as Fritz bravely strode right up to the castle of the great Oz and threw open the doors for all to see.

Turns out that the great Oz was only a cowardly fat ass secretive bastard who had the only microphone in the land.

Then the great Fritz frog marched the fat evil bastard out in public for all to see.

Then we cheered as the great Fritz stood forward and gave us the wisdom of the ages, "Truth, Justice, and the American Way."

That's when we decided to take away all the microphones of those who abuse them with lies.

and that children is how the truth saved America from the fearful evil Empire.

7:48 AM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

I am now seeing 10 - 9 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 -1 in my dreams.
Not good. Heartburn, I think.

8:47 AM  

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