Open Thread...
Quite the the JJ Dinner, eh?
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 11/11/2007
Nov 11, 2007
About Me
- Name: Patrick J. Fitzgerald
- Location: U.S. Attorney On Assignment - WDC, Illinois, United States
Think Globally Prosecute Locally - I grew up in Flatbush, kept my nose clean, went to law school. Now that I am in Chicago and D.C. I have found that the rampant graft and corruption to be a travesty - a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. ---Favorite quote --- "Conditional love is an oxymoron." - Yours truly
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Fitz misunderstands “doing the right thing”
At Amherst in May, Fitz, who was charming, kept saying that AUSAs get to go to work and “do the right thing.”
Nothing could be further from the truth.
The DOJ is in a shambles in NO SMALL PART because the USAs and their staffers have turned a blind eye to all the corruption. And this includes Fitz.
People who “do the right thing” don’t support the kind of things he does (e.g. the Patriot Act, the death penalty). And they don’t steer their ships into a corrupt pier.
For all the good his office has done in Chicago, Fitz has kept a steady eye on his career. And Comey has loved sharing the limelight.
Someone should have called Abu on his corruption early on. It's gonna take DECADES to undo the damage the current DOJ has allowed.
To the first on the thread: A few weeks ago, some of us on another site got into a discussion of a case in Fla. where a man broke a law by feeding the homeless, went to trial, and was acquitted. The judge told the man he was nice and all but not to break the law again. The upshot of our discussion was that if a law is morally wrong, we have a moral obligation to disobey it. This is what is so sad about Fitzgerald. I have read that it is his position that if a law is on the books, it has to be followed whether good or bad. It's the same sort of view the Wehrmacht officers argued at the end of WWII, that is, that they were only following orders, and I'm sure lawyers under the Nazi regime also argued that they were only obeying the laws.
"Marc L. Mukasey (formerly surnamed Saroff)[19], leads the white-collar criminal defense practice in the New York office of Bracewell & Giuliani.[20] The Mukaseys have a professional relationship with Rudy Giuliani; Mukasey and son are also justice advisers to Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign.[21] Mukasey swore in Mayor-elect Giuliani in 1994 and 1998.[21]"
Michael Mukasey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hey Congress, right there should have been your nine one one alert. Wake the hell up America.
anon 11:06, you're right. That's why so many of us have been perplexed by the "left's" adoration of Fitzgerald. He represents almost everything progressives detest.
He is humble and bright. No doubt there. But his career is based on allowing criminals to roam free (including those in high places) in far too many cases. And his strict adherence to unethical laws is, to say the least, troubling.
A friend of mine said he's just following the Catholic party line. When they announced he's marrying a divorced woman, she said, "I stand corrected." LOL
But his stances have nothing to do with religious training (e.g. the RC Church deplores the death penalty). He's just a good soldier. And people of good will, including some of this SDNY friends, are disappointed he hasn't been more interested in real justice.
re: Mukasey (from Wiki)
"Mukasey's son, Marc Mukasey, has been assigned by Giuliani's campaign to block Kerik's legal defense team from interviewing witnesses that might assist his defense."
Fitz's pal, Andy McCarthy (both guys prosecuted the Rahman case before Mukasey) is thrilled by the Mukasey appt. and will probably benefit from it.
Heads up, folks. Mukasey / Fitz / Comey / McCarthy are cut from the same cloth.
Mitt Romney for President !!!
I've been bothered by the Fitz/Comey connection since Comey made that comment about the only thing worse than being reviled by the left is being revered by them. WTF?
That is because there are extremists at both ends. The left reviles anyone with a mind of his own. If you want to be adored, you might as well be swallowed whole by a whale.
It's a safe bet Fitzgerald and Comey got many a laugh by the "love ya Fitz" postings at Firedoglake and HuffPo. Since they are fundamentally good men, they probably rolled their eyes and said, "If they only knew...".
Wow, who would have thought that Fitz girlfriend would be an example of how he too can step out of the line?
The thing is: we never knew what Fitz's "line" was. It was all conjecture on the part of media and bloggers who didn't know what the hell they were talking about.
BTW, the "former investment banker" spin has fallen apart.
I'd love to hear from the DOJ whistleblowers, not someone like Comey who waited 'til he was subpeonaed before he told the truth, but the people who lost their jobs because they spoke out before being "forced."
Fitz was in college when Letz was in kindergarten.
The fourth face of Eve .....
When is the Fitz spin gonna fall apart?
Fess up.
'fessing.
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No more fraud or blow back for our veterans or our country. They given enough.
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2325?page=1
Mirror, mirror on the wall; tell us why Scooter LIBBY was picked to fall?
Bob Dole knows Bob Dole.
eve's momma, the spin is already falling apart. And it wasn't Fitz's doing. People around him spun him, perhaps starting with Comey's "Ness+sense of humor" comment.
I was reading a thread on another site about Fitz's dating history. He didn't have much patience with professional women. And they're pissed off. His betrothed is a political cliche, the female version of Jack Ryan, the senate candidate -- only less educated. It's like they all read the same script. $$ job then $$ viewed as evil. Please.
Jack Ryan on Wiki:
Ryan spent his childhood in Wilmette, Illinois, with his five siblings, and attended New Trier High School. He graduated from high school in 1977 and went on to Dartmouth College, where he graduated summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa. He earned his MBA from Harvard Business School, and his JD from Harvard Law School. After this, he worked for Goldman Sachs as an investment banker, first in New York City, and then in the Chicago branch.
In 2000, after Goldman Sachs went public, Ryan's net worth was in the hundreds of millions. He retired from Goldman and taught part-time at an inner-city Chicago Catholic parochial school, Hales Franciscan High School. He later became a full-time teacher at the school.
BTW, Letzkus went to U. of Illinois.
Please, the girl just fell in love with a guy with a public life. That is no reason to attack her.
No attacking. But the spin needs to end.
Yeah, and Jessica Seinfeld just "fell in love" with Jerry three weeks home from her honeymoon. It's all about the campaign, baby.
Fitz had nothing to do with this spin: http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/03/06/the-tall-man/
... and I'm bettin' it embarrassed him.
Sheesh,
I'm getting a Bellini basket ready.
Bellini Baby Shower Gift Basket
Fitz and Jenni like looking at each other. Holding hands. Spooning. Etc., Etc., Etc.
Their engagement wasn't a political calculus.
Celeste Aida
Spooning?!?!?
CA, either you are a stalker, or you are delusional.
My, and I thought I could be lovey-dovey by stealing the fries! Spooning wins hands down!
With my experience she's both.
Anons,
You make no sense. I'm HAPPY for Fitz and I'm not interested in WHY he picked Jenni.
He must like to look at her, don't you think?
You are just mean because no one loves you.
Celeste Aida
Yeah, CA, women who aren't loved spend their time blogging about someone elses romance. U got it , gal.
11:14,
You have no 'experience' with me.
Celeste Aida
what are u gonna do? cough up a furball?
no not a jilted lover !
you thought you were jilting but all the while i was joshing, nonono jolting, jilting, pilting, zilting, kilting ... whatever you ..
yes i know you CA ... havent you drowned yet ?
hehehehehehe ... this is fun ..
being all knowing and somewhat omnicyberprotected ...
meeeooooooooooowwww ,,, purr, lick purrrrrrrrr
You are so-not invited to tea.
Celeste Aida
What exactly is the "spin" on the girlfriend story?
Wow, you guys are bad.
BTW, Jerry Seinfeld dated a 17 year old when he was 40. Fitz's girl is older than that.
I must confess I dated a younger guy at 40, too much drama for me plus it was awkward explaining things that happened in local history like a parent or something, lol. Eww.
Is Fitz becoming a daddy or not?
12:21
I don't know.
I just liked shopping at Bellini's for my godchildren.
It brought back memories.
Celeste Aida
If the girl is prego that wedding better be in december, not in the spring.
http://www.jeffgannon.com/archives/general/index.html
Regardless of what you might think of the Wilsons or not, how did this person (sorry I don't care for him) get so much information before anyone and how did he get his passes to the WH?
awwwwww CA .... I've already been 2 tea .... silly
now stop your reverse psychology on me .. it doesn't work on someone (like me) who uses it every day of the week.
try a sensible conversation.
a grown up one ! ... think u can manage ?..
1:33
you sound like hullo kitty after a catnip od.
who me ? neverrrrrr ...
give you a clue : i used the Rhotic I dont normally use.
hehehehehehehehehehe mwah
where did you leave the broom, kitty?
To: Scullen Mom from the Other Thread
1. 60614. More than just Armitage.
2. Pat and “daughter” of Gerald – yeah, I get it
3. It’ll last. Her starter marriage is out of the way and Fitz keeps his word.
4. Yeah, JHL and Jack Ryan do make a more logical couple. LOL.
5. Lisle and Plainfield, too.
6. Samborn is older than Fitz, but also a lawyer. He has been the king of spin. That’s his job and he likes to tweak the idiots.
7. Fitz’s bro is lawyer. Formerly EDNY. Baby in the family. MP is RN with MBA. Smart all around. And it’s Kenny, not Kennedy.
8. No problem with IP address. I do WiFi exclusively … Thank you, Starbucks!!
9. I saw him backstage at WWDTM waiting to go on … combing his hair, nervously drinking water, practicing putting on the mic. Completely adorable. And, yes, RRoberts and the WaPo crew are tools.
10. On July 6th? Cosi for lunch … then St. Louis.
11. Kendall.
12. LHP’s fantasy came crashing down. She was so sure she had the inside track but she was never in the running. Speaking of which, she partook of the wrong sport as the lure. LOL.
13. MIL lost out to “younger woman” (also, far less mature). For sure. Marked Jenni. Very weird family dynamic. I don’t get the Peggy Sue joke ???
14. Plame/Wilson age gap as model? Maybe subconsciously, although wouldn’t want that marriage. And, yes, I think she’s in Evanston tonight.
15. Sneed is always as day late and a dollar short … a Roxanne wannabe.
16. Bridget is in Rolling Meadows.
17. Bernice was cute as could be.
See you in Shannon.
To: Scullen Mom from the Other Thread
1. 60614. More than just Armitage.
2. Pat and “daughter” of Gerald – yeah, I get it
3. It’ll last. Her starter marriage is out of the way and Fitz keeps his word.
4. Yeah, JHL and Jack Ryan do make a more logical couple. LOL.
5. Lisle and Plainfield, too.
6. Samborn is older than Fitz, but also a lawyer. He has been the king of spin. That’s his job and he likes to tweak the idiots.
7. Fitz’s bro is lawyer. Formerly EDNY. Baby in the family. MP is RN with MBA. Smart all around. And it’s Kenny, not Kennedy.
8. No problem with IP address. I do WiFi exclusively … Thank you, Starbucks!!
9. I saw him backstage at WWDTM waiting to go on … combing his hair, nervously drinking water, practicing putting on the mic. Completely adorable. And, yes, RRoberts and the WaPo crew are tools.
10. On July 6th? Cosi for lunch … then St. Louis.
11. Kendall.
12. LHP’s fantasy came crashing down. She was so sure she had the inside track but she was never in the running. Speaking of which, she partook of the wrong sport as the lure. LOL.
13. MIL lost out to “younger woman” (also, far less mature). For sure. Marked Jenni. Very weird family dynamic. I don’t get the Peggy Sue joke ???
14. Plame/Wilson age gap as model? Maybe subconsciously, although wouldn’t want that marriage. And, yes, I think she’s in Evanston tonight.
15. Sneed is always as day late and a dollar short … a Roxanne wannabe.
16. Bridget is in Rolling Meadows.
17. Bernice was cute as could be.
18. Loved the OLHOC basement cafeteria. Good times.
See you in Shannon.
Watching it unravel.
To 7:23,
Unraveling?
The SPIN or the relationship?
______________________________
Deo seems to be one of the few here, in the know. I understood until references 16, 17, & 18.
Deo, I did have a bit of doubt about Jenni when it was reported she was a former investment banker gone all noble/teacher-like. My initial and immediate reaction was: she might be a Daley plant ... a Delilah to hurt my Samson.
Daley and Blagojevich have been looking too confident and cheerful. I wondered if they had an inside track to Fitz through Jenni.
It's just the cynic and skeptic in me.
Wiki - Samson & Delilah in the Bible - for $$$ a female spy betrayed the man who loved her
That being said, I still am hopeful that my hero and his beloved have a happy & happening life together.
I love weddings, I love babies, both make me cry.
I have a normal heart.
Celeste Aida
Sneed knows only what she's told. She's not a critical thinker. She grovels before the powerful because her livelihood as a columnist depends on tattle-tales. If people wouldn't feed her stories, she would be waiting on tables.
This IS Chicago and there's always political intrigue.
There's no intrigue here. Certainly no Daley-inspired intrigue. LOL. Fitz just fell for the oldest trick in the book at a vulnerable time in his life.
OMG,
OK, I get the 18th reference.
The obvious went right over my head.
River Shannon pub.
CA
8:20
It takes two.
He's the puppy that wanted to get chosen by her.
Boys, even the old boys, give you that puppy-dog look. It's the female that decides which puppy gets taken home.
Celeste Aida
Ex-Official Admits Plame Leak Was Foolish, Richard Armitage, Former Deputy Secretary of State, Only Leaker To Publicly Apologize - CBS News
Richard Armitage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Back to the original post on this thread. Had Fitz been really brave, he would have gone after Rove. Congress is too slow to do so. Grand juries have defied their gag orders when public safety is at stake. The Bush cabal has been the cause of many deaths, and Fitz knows the back story.
He'll have his pension in a few months. Go out in a blaze of glory, Fitz. Don't be a Cheney lapdog (Lockheed, indeed) like Comey.
Yes, going back to the original post on this thread, would whoever brings up the death penalty now and then spell out what Fitzgerald's actions have been in that area? I know he is pro-capital punishment, but I am interested in actual actions because I know at least one of the fired USAs, the ex-nun in Wisconsin, was supposedly fired because she didn't tow the line on the Bush DOJ trying to circumvent states dragging their feet on implementing executions by cutting short appeals. (I think more than one of the fired was fired for this reason.) The implication is that Fitzgerald is satisfactory to the administration in this regard because he goes along with the policy.
I'm not the "Death Penalty" poster -- but I do know, when Fitzgerald spoke at Harvard Law School in April, he talked about how they decide their "submission" regarding capital cases. It was chilling. He seemed to think that, just because there's a consensus, it's right.
The crowd was audibly disturbed. The link may still be at the HLS site. It was the Cox Coleman Richardson Award dinner. I love Fitz -- but that was a shocker.
Tell all that to Jessica Lunsford.
But hang on ... aren't you'll into that type of stuff ...?
Eye,
My perp was a gentleman, a priest.
Celeste Aida
To 1:30 pm
Don't we elect our Presidents by a majority of electoral votes? Don't we call this a democracy? So, what is shocking about the fact that capital cases are decided by a majority of those assigned to review the cases?
Perhaps you could suggest a better procedure along with your criticism.
Christopher Hitchens had an excellent article in Vanity Fair years and years ago about the "death penalty lottery". Out of all the convictions which could receive the death penalty, only a very few do and of those only a very few are carried out. The executed are those who could not have afforded a "good" defense lawyer and the appeals process, in other words, the poor and minorities. Hundreds of innocent people have been wrongly convicted and executed in US history and DNA technology has recentlly helped prove this. This is equally as sickening to me as children like Jessica Lundsford being murdered.
wake up anon.
it wouldnt and doesnt happen like that anywhere in the USA anymore and you know it.
but maybe we should give you John Cooey to rehabilitate im sure you'd do a great job, being a predator yourself. (i have that in writing from you, disgusting thoughts you have.)
i still cant believe it.
you are evil and you need help.
the sooner the better
what's with the weird stuff? I'd like some help, please sir.
They are scary .
My roommates and I are of a different opinion regarding Fitzgerald. I have not been a fan of his approach to prosecution, to the Patriot Act, or to the death penalty.
But, as someone who was president of the math club in high school, I'm glad when any former geek gets the pretty girl (and I'm female).
My best female friend is 49 and never married. She's beautiful, successful, kind, and very smart. She spent her 20s getting educated, her 30s working non-stop, and her 40s taking care of her parents. Now that she's "free" of obligations, she's looking at FINALLY having a life of her own. And I hope she gets it. It's hard for her to find someone without a ton of baggage (including ex-wives). But we're looking for her.
Fitz seems to have had the same problem. Too bad he never met my friend.
I am watching Judge Reggie Walton on CNN talking about crack vs coke. What's up with that. When did he start doing TV?
Walton is really the go-to guy on that topic -- both because of his no-nonsense jurist approach and his personal experience.
Love you Reggie.
a tonne of baggage ?.. my god anon what does your best friend want a God.
How about this scenario: your friend, who by the way sounds like she's been in a oxygen bubble all her life cant handle baggage cause she's never experienced baggage.
Baggage is life. It makes us what we are as we grow and mature (arrr choo) if you let it.
My baggage gave me the nounce my friend to check you out initially.
And what fun I/we did have, eh?
Howeverrrr,
Life is good and bad, but anon. you wouldn't know about that. would you? In your own words "you are afraid of life" Why? Because your still in your Holly Golightly cage where you'll stay until the last scene. (try 90 years old)
And if you remember rightly Holly picked the cat up in that last scene and opened the door too that cage.
She then flew off and lived happily ever after when she realised that dumping the cat "in" (or dumping "on" depending on the cat ) the rain was definately the wrong and very, very silly thing to do.
But dont let me stop you honey, proceed !
I will ensure you live.
Divorce is baggage, honey. Vowing to spend your life with someone --and then breaking that vow -- is never a good thing. Never.
I admire people who keep their promises and do the right thing, to get back to the initial post. That is at the core of a good life.
People who don't care about who they are or what they do could not understand that.
To: SMftOT
Bridget & Co. thought the six-year age difference would seem appropriate to him because that was the difference between his parents. But a man who wants children saw her as far too old as anything more than a fling.
Such men are attracted to women to are the age their mothers were when they were born. Thus, 33 was perfect.
They can't legitimately marry in the RC Church ... but how someone pro-death penalty could get an award named after Bernardin is more a mystery.
People get awards in regognition for the whole body of work. An unpopular stance on a particular issue does not invalidate the rest of the accomplishments. What is more troublesome is the attitude of seeking standards of "perfection" in other people. More often than not we don't meet ourselves those standards.
To 8:06
If your friend thinks she doesn't have any baggage of her own, for all her accomplishments, she lacks introspection. She has had a "life of her own" all along. It may not look that way if she spent it wrapped around herself.
Anon at 10:11, we all have baggage, but not all baggage is equal. I would be very concerned about the baggage of a potential husband who had been married once or more before. Why was there a divorce? Drinking? Physical abuse? Philandering?
Anon at 10:11, we all have baggage, but not all baggage is equal. I would be very concerned about the baggage of a potential husband who had been married once or more before. Why was there a divorce? Drinking? Physical abuse? Philandering?
God anon. you have yourself on.
You forgot though. If he hadn't been married at all. mmmmm
Go back in your kukoo clock anon. and come out when you can discuss something you know about. For real.
Or are those two words swearing to you?
For real? Nothing is real, we are all pretenders, aren't we? Fitz too.
On October 18, 2007, the Washington Post broke the story of Fitzgerald's engagement to Jennifer Letzkus, a self-described "former investment banker turned Head Start teacher" (although the details of her background remain unclear). They live in the Lincoln Park neighborhood of Chicago and are marathon runners, having completed a recent Turkey Trot and the Mt. Washington climb, among other races. It will be Fitzgerald's first marriage and Letzkus's second. She was previously married to Jeremy Crisup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Fitzgerald
Huh??? He is a runner?????
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Evil.
What's the opposite of extreme ?
That's a bandaid answer.
I forgot ...
Huckabee.
Dang Ah lihke tuh say thet.
Huckabee.....mmmmm
He must be a darn good runner to have caught up with a fast "young girl" like Jenni.
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Just who are the mercs fighting for anyway? How many of our troops are dying because of Iraqi intelligence? How many innocents?
Why didn't these soldiers and vets have the support they needed? I wonder how many in the federal government are proud about the lies and cover-ups?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Come on now, if someone dated Mr. Fitz and it didn't work out...let it go. Hopefully one day, you will shake your head and chuckle at yourself. ;)
Wise advice.
2b or not 2b : what is the opposite of extreme?
superficial? starting point? normal? insufficient?
"Come on now, if someone dated Mr. Fitz and it didn't work out...let it go. Hopefully one day, you will shake your head and chuckle at yourself. ;)"
Now there is wise advice.
For once anon. you make sense.
"He must be a darn good runner to have caught up with a fast "young girl" like Jenni."
LOL ... or she slowed down enough to let him catch her. Much more likely. In more ways than one.
Strikers bring some young blood to picket lines
Corporations feeding their local news stations canned news denouncing strikers and playing on America's sensibilities to the tube. Strike on.
10:36pm==you should not assume all anons. are the same. But I do have my moments.
Corporations feeding their local news stations canned news denouncing strikers and playing on America's sensibilities to the tube. Strike on.
10:36pm==you should not assume all anons. are the same. But I do have my moments.
11:37 PM
first paragraph: tall poppy syndrome at its mightiest. pity you didnt follow in your forebears footsteps and become something better than you are now. Maybe it has something to do with that chip on your shoulder Holly ???
second paragraph: the emperor is good 2 me you know from anon. to anon. to anon. to anon. who cares you are all tarred with the same brush or penis whichever comes first.
Wow. For once there's actually someone posting here who knows something.
huh
"He did the best he could."
Damning praise.
He did the best he was willing to do in order to keep his job. Love him, but that ain't bravery.
You're right. Calling her out on a "crush" is fine. But pointing out "obsession" is not. Combine that with narcissism, and you have a blog.
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It was interesting all the tidbits on the weather, Tesla show, the water hog in Georgia, praying for rain with Sonny, that little flub-twice and the greening of Greensburg.
Strike on.
"You're right. Calling her out on a "crush" is fine. But pointing out "obsession" is not. Combine that with narcissism, and you have a blog.
7:03 AM "
There goes that ego again.
You really dont understand what or who is glowering at you do you ?
Im trying to tell u something
U have nothing to tell, clearly.
I've logged it.
U dont listen.
Im sorry 4 u.
Good luck
glowering?!?!
education in a woman is overrated
a woman should go to school until she finds a husband
end of story
education in a woman is overrated
a woman should go to school until she finds a husband
end of story
given your intellectual scope and writing talent, you must have gotten married in the
5th grade! LOL
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/glowering
It aint me that glowering ....
I thought it was funny, but then I read between the lines ...
hows dat for gooden english
yeah
men ask you for you c.v. on a date?
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No wonder the State Dept. is known as the most corrupted. What is the DOJ? What the hell was the 109th Congress doing except looting the country and letting people get killed?
Stop the lies, more lies! Stop the war!
anon 4:31 men ask you for a c.v. on a date?
No, they do not unless they are deaf.
http://www.newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Howard_Krongard.php
Didn't one of these "boys will be boys" work for the CIA on 9/11? Or some insurance company, what was it called?
like a typical dud debtor when you loose you get personal ...
but thats a great line ..
c.v. on a date ... hehehehe
pity i didnt ask you for a c.v. prior asking for assistance.
the friend was my enemy of my enemies after all ... arrrr choooo..
ive caught golden rod's flu.
and speaking of golden rod .. has anyone seen what facebook has caused today ?... of all the gin joints in the world that guy got caught there ...
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Bravo, DoJ. Please no pushing around items on the plate and trying to convince the People you already digested the food.
Thanks to the FBI for the honest report on Blackwater attackers.
Loose?
Look it up.
whoops .. so what ..
love the way you try and deviate from the subject at hand.
have you ever tackled anything head on in your life anon.?
you should you would resolve a lot of issues you have. try it.
santa clause is not allowed anymore to say hohoho he has to say hahahahaha .. cause hohoho is politically incorrect. what a load of hoohaa .. hohhohohohoho
maybe i wrote loose cause that is how i felt yesterday ..
foot loose and fancy free ..
hehehehehe
Head on?
No circuitous speech here, my friend.
stop bloviating with pithy comments ...
im a no spin kinda girl ...
and that my dear is what you cant handle ...
i could imagine you "yelling" dont taze me bro .. heheheh
i love that
dont taze me bro .. have you got a dont taze me bro bumper sticker for your car ...
I can handle the truth, can you?
i handled the truth about you quite well for how long ? 18 months ...
talking to 3 at a time.
individulising those entities.
so of course i can handle the truth ..
actually i think i did a good job myself ..
so proceed honey ... give me your best shot ...
does kitty always talk to herself?
pick a fight with herself?
she gotta crush on huckabee...mmmmm
Patricia M. L. made $64,563 last year at Scullen.
actually huckabee is tipped for vice president ... romney/huckabee ... good ..
the world will be safer ..
dear bloggers,
obviously you have connections you can use...you CAN do something, it just takes the will to stand up for something, at the very least, yourself. The time has come when you have to come down on the side of right, or wrong. See the following links for some disturbing information.
http://celticrebel.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/
your-disgusting-little-bush-smells-fishy/
Title: OZZY'S WHITE HOUSE -- "Bush's Headbanger's Ball"
http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1758.cfm
eyes opened recently-sh
dear bloggers,
obviously you have connections you can use ...
hehehehehe
coming down on bush at this stage is not good for romney/huckabee ...
dear bloggers,
huckabee....? I'm not sure. Need to do more researchon all candidates. Romney...looks like a tamer Mormon version of Bush. Pic on-line of Romney giving the "sign" Also, the new French prez recently hamming it up at the White House, likes to use the "sign",oh yeah, he must like the Texas Longhorns, too, like a lot of other prominent figures in the news right now. There is a huge sub-culture out there. Check it out. Inform yourselve and use your contacts to get the word out.
eyes recently opened. SH
to darn im good..frankly my dear, no one gives a damn.
kitty needs attention.
Looks that troll freaks come out at night without their meds. lol
i hope and pray you really arent a far left loon SH ....
anon .. quit with the pithy comments .. if you are going to abuse me do it properly. please.
back to SH .. that is the prediction Huckabee will get a Vice President ticket if Guilani or Romney are candidates ..
I dont like Rudi though ..
kitty needs to be euthanized
it's the humane thing to do
to put her
and us
out of our misery
well out of 10 ... i would give that about a 1 ... in a good mood 2 ...
the c.v joke this morning ... now thats a 4 ...
next
kitty has IQ in the single digits and she rates others
pathetic
a grown woman who calls herself
hulo kitty
a stupid kiddie bait screen name
about as classy and intelligent as a walmart greeter that comes to work for an hour a day on the special bus
but i'm insulting those folks
they are at least trying to be nice and helpful
mmm ok a 3 for that one
next
"It was only in 1987, with the studies of Smythe and Moldorsky (1977) and of Campbell et al. (1983) that the American Medical Association began to consider fibromyalgia as a “real” disease."
Balfour1 -1816
Fibromyalgia is a chronic illness that causes immense physical pain and debilitating fatigue. Classified as a syndrome, fibromyalgia is not a disease. Instead it is a condition that causes many different symptoms. These symptoms affect all systems in the body. Fibromyalgia plagues up to 5% of the population, with 6 million sufferers in the United States alone. The name fibromyalgia comes from "fibro" meaning fibrous tissue (such as tendons and ligaments), "my" meaning muscles, and "algia" meaning pain.
wow ... im 1 in 6 million ... and i only thought i was 1 in 1 million ..
10/10 for that one ... mwah
Not a 10. Wasn't original. More like wiki-lite.
dr. phil is OVERRATED.
hulo kitty
seen on kindergarten lunchboxes
in every trash heap from manilla
to calcutta
is a 400lb polynesian woman in muumuu
who pulls her hair back
ontop her head
one of the children of the corn
eats spam sandwiches
drinks chocolate yoho
will date you for a pack of cigarettes
bring your own condoms
mmmmmm but Im not hulo kitty.
im hullo kitty ...
0/10 for that one ...
you got the wrong person ..
next !
Not a 10. Wasn't original. More like wiki-lite.
try a wiki-heavy then !
"I continue to receive support from friends all over the world," says molester priest McGuire
October 31, 2005,
Where have all of you gone?
Celeste Aida
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Whatshisass has written a book, what is his name? Said he wanted to get a Republican elected (think he got one *selected), big gray hairy lip,UN reject? Just look for the old cigar smokers. Now we know how Bill must have offended thee. It reminds one of C. L***.
Lame, I know.
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/11/overwhelming-majority-of-credible.html
Raw Replay - Revisiting History
I wonder if Bill O'Lielly could tell some mothers, fathers, aunts, and friends and former vets why kids are lied to, yukked up about about the military and then bullied and brainwashed (hell, freaking kind word for it) at boot camp all before their senior year? How is it they come home terrified and with PTSD?
Ha! Would you let Bill O'Lielly near your child?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris16.html
Yes I would like Bill O'Reilly around my kids.
He is an ex school teacher so I would imagine you would know better cause you will probably turn into a teacher or something better in the next 5 minutes or so.
hehehehe.
How is it they come home terrified ? Like get fucked ... stop pandering and tell them to act like the men they are you twit.
Mores the point why don't you act like the man you are and not some touchy feely twit.
jus rememberin these wars are made by "men" who couldnt wouldnt march in a school band, let alone do a left right left in high school rotc, is nice to be 'soldier" in a parade, but these "men" went awol at every turn cause daddy had con'ections, gotta get me a wife an college course to dodge draft, cause people get shot in wars and i wanna live to get inheritance and be big some fucking day, no..our schoolboys dont get the truth.
Huckabee Fly Gals whur are yew?
Recruiters should not lie and mislead kids. That was from a retired SF member and this mom knows that from the countless phone calls. Go to hell, there are no elite families at work here. Most families struggled to feed their kids and teach right from wrong. Vietnam was over by then and Who lied about the Gulf Wars? Who looted the treasury like HUD, FHA, was into Iran=Contra?
The MEDIA suppressed much, didn't/don't they? Hey about the Hollywood spins and brainwashing? How about that MTV?
And hey, is old Tom Delay behind "Dancing with the Stars" push again? Think we cannot see through that BS? Interesting how Delay's name is associated with shrinks who do not think sexual abuse affects children into adulthood. Now things are making a whole lot more sense. Sick, sick bastards.
I cannot wait till the WHOLE truth bites the blackmailers, the cover-ups, and the evil-doers in the ass. CA, you must have 12 faces of EVE in there. I would feel sorry for you but I have feeling it might be an act. Is it?
Romney and sons served, ha! Seinfeld + Huck a bee, is it? How about Seinfeld + can corruption. Damn crooks.
Off to google mormon + salt. Strike on!
To 3:49PM,
You said: "Interesting how Delay's name is associated with shrinks who do not think sexual abuse affects children into adulthood."
Please give cites, details.
You asked: "CA, you must have 12 faces of EVE in there. I would feel sorry for you but I have feeling it might be an act. Is it?"
I act sane. Looking at me, interacting with me in public, nothing remarkable. That's the act. So I've had and continue to have a professional life, of a kind. Sit on this Board, work on that project. I need alot of down time.
In my private life, relationships - I'm not able to be sane.
That's why I oppose the sexualization of children. It doesn't impair intellectually. It's emotionally damaging.
It's the national agenda. It's Kinsey's agenda. It's the ruling oligarch's agenda. Most people don't realize it's happening.
CA
Romney/and a slim Huckabee ... thats for me ... and the world ...
Anon .. shutup with your left winged nut conspiracy theories .. You make me laugh actually it's sorta like the pot calling the kettle back eh? Your such an honest individual, right? So I cannot take you seriously.
Next thing you'll be blurting about is that 9/11 was an inside job.
I wonder if the Polish guy who chucked a mental in Vancouver last words were "don't taze me bro"...
"It's the national agenda. It's Kinsey's agenda. It's the ruling oligarch's agenda. Most people don't realize it's happening."
and here comes the boogie man ...
dear bloggers,
open your eyes, inform yourselves!
this is a long one, but check out this link.....
http://www.geocities.com/jforjesus2002/page9.html
also check out info on HAARP...see what the miracles of science hold for us.
Remember...if it looks like a duck..walks like a duck..your know the rest.
eyes recently opened - SH
too many bloggers here trying to sound intellectual but inexplicably inept.
This thread started well .... but now .....
This thread started well .... but now .....
yep .. you try to start a decent debate but as with left wing blog if you dont agree or are involved with consipracy theories your uneducated and inept.
to each his own ...
Horswemyn Fer Huckabee
...mm.......mmmm
"this thread started well.."
No, it didn't.
Has Fitz done the right thing yet?
Fitz was unfairly made into something he never was. He's a creation on the new media. And 2007 is turning into the year when he's being seen as far more human in every respect.
I, for one, hope he has a good life.
"Has Fitz done the right thing yet?"
Why this question? He's done his job, hasn't he?
Ryan actually has had his freedom curtailed. Who but Fitz and his team could have done that?
What is he supposed to do?
What do you critics mean?
I'm just a fan.
Celeste Aida
Perhaps, if I were an intellectual, I would know how to give Fitz the argument on how to stop child sexualization. And Fitz and his team might do something.
However, I'm not smart that way.
To Anon 8:21PM,
AMEN
Celeste Aida
Perhaps, if I were an intellectual, I would know how to give Fitz the argument on how to stop child sexualization. And Fitz and his team might do something.
However, I'm not smart that way.
Bill O'Reilly can help ..
Go 2 the no spin zone ...
I have an admission .. I havent been politically correct today and I have an abusive email from another cat.
Just like you C.A. the other cat doesn't like sex either.
me a cat. me like sex, but aint gettin any. all me can do is play with this silly thread.....
is that you CA?
wow .. i didnt think in this day and age people could be so prudish ..
anon. belieeeeeve me .. you aint the cat im talking about.
To 8:45
You said: "Just like you C.A. the other cat doesn't like sex either."
Is that your best pick-up line?
How's that been working for you?
Celeste Aida
oops I meant 8:54
Celeste Aida
you dont ... your posties reflect that .. direct contact is a problem for you .. i proved it with a little experiment i conducted ...
mwah ..
To the Blogger - Sex Therapist
Dr. Phillipa, you have flipped.
CA
now now now ...
i havent flipped this is how people see you .. if you dont like it .. dont do it
why is it you can insult me and i take it on the chin BUT when its turned around and the shoe is on the other foot you cant take it.
there is a lot to be said about you just observing that.
high maintainance people arent fun you know.
now now now ...
i havent flipped this is how people see you .. if you dont like it .. dont do it
why is it you can insult me and i take it on the chin BUT when its turned around and the shoe is on the other foot you cant take it.
there is a lot to be said about you just observing that.
high maintainance people arent fun you know.
yew dont knogh wut yer talkin bout..
at tha nervous hospital we gotta janitor that smokes that thar whacky weed.
hee's lots a fun.
mmmmmm
......name of huckabee.....mm hm
For the FitzLetz wedding, both the Ceremony [ a sacred space for the rite ] and the Reception, may I suggest:
Four Seasons Hotel - Chicago
or
Peninsula Hotel - Chicago
And for the honeymoon:
Fiji - Cousteau Resort
or
Relais- Chateaux - Global
Celeste Aida, the wedding planner
isnt like just like saying
Celeste Aid Relationship Fixerupperer .... hahahahaha
shutup slingblot ... you have no idea what you are talking about
Some guy was licking a toad's poison glands to get high. Colorado lizard toad? gross, slingblade don't be trying this at home now.
Honeymoon most likely Ireland! Anyone knows Jenni ancestry?
whoops, meant Jenni's
2:45,
Last name sounds Lithuanian.
CA
Stop licking me, I need my beauty sleep
Cops Crack Down on Hallucinogenic Toad Licking Trend
Lebanese Leader Pledges Cash to Straighten Rice’s Teeth, Institutionalize Bush
CA was here
and here....
Mukasy has chosen Chicago Judge Mark Filip as second. Another pal of Peter Fitzgerald's.
At an early age, he has already compiled an impressive legal records," said Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-Ill.) when he nominated Filip. "I believe he would make a solid addition to the district court bench
CA
dat peter has good ol' eyes to spot good ones.
I must complain too.
After yesterday and Westfield banning Santa from saying ho ho ho today the company I work for in Sydney owned by U.T.C. in Connecticut is having a Seasons Greetings Competition.
The prize a 300.00 gift voucher
But, one thing. You are not allowed to use the word Christmas.
I'm not relgious, however I find this offensive.
Arianna Huffington: A HuffPost Project: Posterizing the Modern GOP
hands up who saw the this on Arianna's Huff and Puff site today.
I mean get real people.
Anon2:44 & 2:45,
Ireland? Would they have any privacy?
Gown & flowers. Minimalist, elegant, forget the red roses and go with Lily of the Valley bouquet. Continue with green & white flower theme: Bells of Ireland, Callas Lillies, tall & stately.
Carolina Herrera gown with veil from Ultimate Bride on Oak Street
Celeste Aida
It's a second wedding for the bride. Etiquette calls for something VERY simple.
6:56,
I suggested NO CHURCH, a sacred space in the hotel with reception.
I think both the Four Seasons and the Peninsula are SIMPLY the best.
And the gown & veil are plain, unembellished silk.
Irish Bells are field flowers.
Perhaps the veil should go. They have pants suits for brides at Ultimate Bride.
Couture Wedding Pant Suit for the Bride
Celeste Aida
Tradition dictates simple wedding and no veil. However, modern brides forego tradition and have the wedding of their choice. I agree with the latter, as a wedding is a personal celebration and should be done to the pleasure of the bride and groom.
All than emphasis on "2nnd" wedding attire is offensive, as it marks the bride as "not a virgin", which is no one business to start with.
Etiquette is elitist crap.
Obviously no Catholics here. Ms. Letzkus will end up getting an annulment, if she needs one in the first place, and they will be married in church. That's probably why no date has been set.
Does pre-cana require six month waiting period? If so, that would explain waiting for the spring.
You said: "I agree with the latter, as a wedding is a personal celebration and should be done to the pleasure of the bride and groom."
I agree.
Celeste Aida
Fitz is too much a law and order guy to flout the rules. LOL.
However, Mr. Death Penalty DID get the Bernardin Award. Go figure.
The Raw Story | Home run king Bonds faces charges, 30 years in prison
"It is important that steroid use be known." some top dog in baseball
Just Barry Bonds?
Who do you all think of when you think of steroid abuse?
Strike on!
you can shove your deceitful, spying, eavesdropping bull-shit up your ass.
I thought 3 months was the waiting period for Catholic marriages, but it can be waived in the case of mature individuals. I can't see F. getting married outside the church because their children would not be able to be baptized in the church. I don't know much about either party, but from what I've read about him, and from your now saying he received an award from the archdiocese, I can't see him burning that bridge.
Interesting. Does that mean that catholics who marry in a civil ceremony only can not have their children baptized?
you can shove your deceitful, spying, eavesdropping bull-shit up your ass.
3:19 PM
People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones anon.
tut tut tut
Merry Christmas to all ... hohoho
Correct, Really. The church does not recognize civil ceremonies as sacramental, and in their eyes valid, marriages.
Correct, Really. The church does not recognize civil ceremonies as sacramental, and in their eyes valid, marriages.
As anon is such an expert on love, marriage, ceremoooanies etc etc. I have a career change for you.
Why dont you become a relationship councellor. (now thats a turn up for the books)
what happens if the child gets baptized anyway? is the baptism invalid?
What is really comical is seeing the church annul a marriage after 20 years, 2 kids like it never happened, just so the years younger little new woman can get her marriage in the church. Yep, after moving around the DC scene.
Starbucks loses business. Milk prices are up, don't blame the little dairymen.
Someone looted the treasury for years and they called it national security secrets?
It would be a riot if Mr. Fitzgerald and his bride were already married. Now that would be sweet justice to all the wedding planners. ;)
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