Dec 14, 2006


Group Enlists Pastor in
New Anti-Wal-Mart Ad

A new television ad by features a pastor asking, "Would Jesus shop at Wal-Mart? Should you?"
Answer: Hell, yes because:

1) They are lax on the "no shoes- no service" policy,

2) He feels warm and fuzzy knowing many of its after hours laborers are named after him,

3) Idleness is the work of the Devil and the hard working Chinese manufacture 80% of the merchandise for only .45 cents an hour,

4) While supplies last he can buy the hot new video game "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" and stock up on bulk pet food for his Dinosaurs - Dobson and Falwell,

5) Along with Haliburton, Exxon, and Lockheed Martin, Wal Mart has been one of his best performing stock picks in the after life,

6) He is a master of timing so that any number of the elderly greeters can personally carry his purchases to the pearly gates, and

7) Please, can anyone from Nazareth to Roanoke resist those prices?


Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

Top o' the mornin'.....I watched this ad this morning.


I am way past the Christian Wrong dictating to the American public. Last time I checked this is a free country. There is little question that Walmart has some issues, but please, a campaign against them???
Last time I checked no one is holding a gun when one walks into Walmart. This company offers much to those that have little. If you don't agree with their philosophy (and there are many that don't) elsewhere! I swear some of these Evangelicals think that the public has no brain to figure things out without their help!

10:35 AM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

The update on Senator Johnson is somewhat encouraging with respect to the condition that was determined by his attending physician. Apparently, Sen. Johnson has/had a congenital abnormality which causes cerebral veins to enlarge. The surgery was deemed successful. Hopefully, the senator will fully recover.

God sure has a sense of humour.

10:42 AM  
Anonymous me said...

I shop at WalMart and will continue to do so.

10:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it true Walmart has a policy which disallows discussions of certain subjects among its employees?

10:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look whatever Fitz does in his personal life as long as it's not illegal and he is doing his job, Who CARES? And BIG FAT HAIRY DEAL!

Oh, by the way I hope he gets the tape on the Bill Beavers interview, and does not need blood pressure medicine afterwards, I would like him to stay healthy enough to watch the City/County activities more.

10:50 AM  
Anonymous Baby Jesus, Jr. said...

Thank God he can't buy any more RU486 there.

10:59 AM  
Anonymous the late sam walton said...

With the invention of security cameras, Negros like the Prince of Peace can now shop in Walmart just like regular folks.

11:02 AM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

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11:34 AM  
Blogger Patrick J. Fitzgerald said...

Thanks :)

11:37 AM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

Your welcome.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Walmart policies, and I don't give them my business. I do think boycotting companies is all American...but this ad seems a bit campy to me; makes for a good blog thread though :)

11:51 AM  
Anonymous rufus rumquart said...

You think a cheap Jew could pass up Wal-Mart?!

11:57 AM  
Blogger patriot girl said...

The U.S. Capitol Physician, Dr. John Eisold - the one who operated on Sen. Tim Johnson - is the same guy that was the in charge of handling the anthrax & ricin scares.

He and Bill Frist have handled most of these issues Capitol Briefing on February 3, 2004

and the same guy the Republicans wanted to keep on staff for the next 10 years?

Appropriations Policy Brief
written up by Mike Pence (R-IN) Chairman of the Republican Study Committee
dated: Dec. 19, 2005

H.R. 2863 — Defense Appropriations Act for FY 2006
Conference Report
U.S. Capitol Physician: Includes language stating that “the present incumbent Attending Physician at the U.S. Capitol shall be continued on active duty until ten years after the enactment of this Act.”

(I can't link to the above because it was a Word document download)

Pelosi Begging Flu Vaccines from Eisold

anthrax investigation

11:58 AM  
Blogger Patrick J. Fitzgerald said...

Personally, I am too busy to shop for myself so I ask my friend Carson Kressley to help me. ;)

12:00 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

I am sorry to have to say this, but that altered pic of the Sacred heart is offensive to me as a Catholic. The True Sacred Heart represents the center and core of Jesus great love and mercy for all His children. I know because as a nurse I stay close to His Heart or I wouldn't be able to do my job. This hurts like I a racial slur or something. I know it hurt Jesus. Peace and love to all.

12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alarming to say the least.

12:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I feel the same way as you. I don't agree with their policies either and I don't shop there.

12:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Walmart sell ultra-lights that won't crash in Wyoming?

12:13 PM  
Blogger Patrick J. Fitzgerald said...

It's OK CJ,

I was going to have to change it anyway since Father Judge at Regis just called me and threatened to use a ruler on me and void my raffle ticket for the Mustang.

Actually, we knew each other slightly - I was two years ahead of him in school. I was on the debate team. Father Judge was on the speech team. Among other things, he won the 17th State Speech championship, so needless to say he just gave me an earful!!!

12:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Breaking News from


12:18 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Thank you. Peace be with you. Please forgive me. I hope I didn't offend anyone here with my post. If I did, please forgive me.

12:18 PM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

Sorry CJ...I didn't mean to insult or hurt anyone either by the graphic...I was raised a Catholic

LOL @ "friend Carson Kressley to help me. ;)"

Fitzie, I think you need a new personal shopper with better taste...

12:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never shop wm...and yes wm employees will be fired for talking about unions. my dad worked there for 3 months -as a retired fed he couldn't believe how emp
oyees were treated-working while clocked out,etc-he worked for the stock w
s surprised others barely made enough for gas money... fitz I hope your personal shopper doe
n't go there!

12:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll bet you wouldn't find Carson Kreesley at Walmart.

12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd hate to see Mr. Fitzgerald suffer a fate like ELWOOD's brother JAKE.

Mr. Rumquart, you know this is all a Jewish-Communist Conspiracy: DON'T YOU!!!!

Cynthiana isn't so far away.

Now, I'm going to Walmart and purchase several sets of bingo tickets and sponsor a "save the farm" non-profit fundraiser.

I need a few more dog leashes for my alligators.

And, Mr. Fitzgerald can shake-up my temple anytime..

12:26 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Patrick J Fitzgerald,
That was very sweet of you to change that pic.Thanks again.

12:28 PM  
Blogger Patrick J. Fitzgerald said...

If you say so, trust me, it was self preservation and I oh so want to pimp my ride! ;)

12:34 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Patrick J Fitzgerald said...
I oh so want to pimp my ride!
Huh?. Oh well. I need to go to sleep now so I can be back at the hospital tonight.Good night all. Peace and love to all. zzzzzzzzz.

12:40 PM  
Anonymous cjt said...


Yes that bothered me too and there is so much worse out there than that now. But He doesn't mind you know or perhaps it saddens him some.

"And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him . . ." (Matt. 12:32).

12:44 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening folks!

Happy Thursday!

O.K. the topic is about Walmart. For the record, I do not shop at Walmart. After watching and purchasing Robert Greenwald's DVD documentary movie about Walmart some time ago, it is a real eye opener about the company. Walmart is nothing but a billion dollar slave plantation corporation that treats it employees in the U.S. and overseas of all nationality, creed, religion or whatever like indenture servants. I know some people that work at Walmart that will tell you some inside information about that company that will make the hair come up fron the back of your head.

I read Sam Walton's book long time ago. And his blueprint of what he wanted Walmart to be is nothing to what it is today. And I was appauled from the DVD movie that CEO of Walmart, Lee Scott, makes over 20 million dollars as a CEO and many of the employees have very little to no health benefits. And Walmart is trying to run the mom and pop stores out of business from the openings of their Superstores.. 46% control of Walmart are the shareholders and not the Walton family. 70% of product from Walmart are made overseas. It makes you wonder why the Walton family now have fallen out of the top 10 billionaires in Forbes magazine.. Sam Walton would roll over his grave to see what shame his own family has brought to his dream and legacy company.. It is all about the benjamins for the Walton family and the company.

12:47 PM  
Anonymous Ah ha! said...

The Laws of Irony

Federal prosecutors have insisted so far that any ill-gotten money that former Enron executives had squirreled away in their spouses' names still can be fully recovered by the government, except for one executive. Michael Kopper, once a director of Enron's global finance unit, pleaded guilty in 2002 to illegally obtaining $16.5 million, but he is openly gay. And since his home state of Texas does not recognize his union with his longtime partner, prosecutors cannot treat the partner as a “spouse” and have lumped him with “third party” transferees, whose assets are much more difficult to obtain (according to a November report in Washington Blade).

12:48 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Good Afternoon Fitz and the Justice Bloggers.. :)

What would Jesus do ? Well he wouldn't be going into a Walmart or Buying an SUV or any car for that matter...

These 'former' things will pass away but his word will never pass away...

So much for insulting the Messiah! LOL*)

Who cares about Chinese Walmart anyway...I hope they go out of business! :)

12:53 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


More than 30,000 other Democracy for America activists urge incoming Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi to put paper ballots on the agenda in the new Congress' first 100 hours.

That's pretty good News but somehow I'm getting the picture of a Frozen Government until the gerbil leaves office...(IF he leaves office that is and doesn't superglue himself tyrant extraordinaire using more tactics!)

btw: Check out the Picture of the Day!

Can you spell QUAGMIRE ?! Going Nowhere FAST!!

Oh and gerbil needs 100 Million more Tax dollars to keep the fleece party going! With a 28% approval rating can you imagine that ?!

Hee hee hee!

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's how you make money with Walmart.
(Hate to give all the secrets away.)
First you get an inside tip that they're going to move or expand into the area. Then you buy the land quick 'n dirty from the owner, then sell it to Walmart and increase your profits by millions..

Be sure to tell your buddies to purchase any adjacent land, and watch those highway planners!

If you don't have the right connections, or know the right people for this LEVEL of information, then invest in landfills. After three uses, I retire my mop refills there.

Then these worms, developed just for landfills will ingest the disposed mop cartridges, and small farmers who have little other HONEST way to make a living are happy with their worm investments - that is, IF the worm investment wasn't an Oklahoma scam.

1:04 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Oops...Make that 100 BILLION with a B..

1:04 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...


Great pic! Priceless.. LOL! And it is 100 billion dollars not million GEF that the Gerbil is panhandling for to Congress...
Oh here is something for you. I got email from John Conyers Jr:

I wanted to share with you the news that I have been elected by the Democratic Caucus as the Chairman designate of the House Judiciary Committee in the 110th Congress. While I am now the Chairman-designate, I will not assume the Chairmanship until January when the new Congress is sworn in on January 4. I am very honored to be elected by my colleagues to this important position.

ah ha!

Yup, Enron exceutives were slicksters. That is why Linda Lay has sole responsiblity of her husband's money and estate since she worked with him and one of their children is an attorney..

1:05 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Video: Olbermann on Tony Snow..

SNOW: "I don't know!!"

The Comedy Hour! LOL*)

Tony Snow is starting to melt from the pressure under this administration. Didn't he say he'd be in the loop once in a while?

Olbermann: When he first started, he won praise for his candor about not knowing stuff. But he‘s now been there eight months, and sooner or later, “I don‘t know” loses the charm of “Aw, shucks, ma‘am,” and moves closer to “Well, what do you know?” In fact, Dana Milbank, in “The Washington Post” today, counts more than 400 times Mr. Snow has said, “I don‘t know,” from that famous podium.


1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I was ROFL on that video about Snowjob!! hehe

Also, the pic of the day is hilarious! LOL

1:14 PM  
Anonymous cjt said...

a loon

just local to me and recently walmart bought a tract of land cheap for a super center , one to fill the gap to 10 miles between each store of course. It was found by state inspectors after constructuion began to be over a huge complex of close to the suface dry caves and which would have opened large sinkholes eventually.

they knew full well of this too before building began and covered it up.

Imagine the possibilities of tradgedy there.

1:15 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


I wanted to share with you the news that I have been elected by the Democratic Caucus as the Chairman designate of the House Judiciary Committee in the 110th Congress. While I am now the Chairman-designate, I will not assume the Chairmanship until January when the new Congress is sworn in on January 4. I am very honored to be elected by my colleagues to this important position.

Hmmm...It might work out only IF conyers steps up to the plate..

I understand that these people are going by what Pelosi outlined but I believe the People of America have already spoken up and continue to speak up as to what we want!

3 Basic things the American people want!

1. End the War in Iraq NOW!

2. Full Bipartisan Investigation of 9/11!

3. Impeach Bush and Cheney!

However that's not the DEMS agenda which should be their agenda because even the Independents made that the Mandate.

If the DEMs don't come up to the Plate, there will be serious consequences in 2008 and I'm sure they found that out yesterday.

The Republicans are already circling the Chuck wagon regarding Sen Johnson and Cheney got a spring in his step this morning..

1:16 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Hi s-q!

Yeah, that was good Comedy!!


1:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The WH will soon have to build.. "Golden Arches" in the WH Rose Garden..

like McDonalds has..

Instead of 100 BILLION Served..

it will read..

100 BILLION Taken From You


1:17 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


It's worse than that...

1:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


That's ugly!!

1:22 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


Remember the NeoCONjob motto:

"What you don't know, won't hurt us!"


1:23 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

"If the DEMs don't come up to the Plate, there will be serious consequences in 2008 and I'm sure they found that out yesterday.'

Man, GEF...

The Democrats haven't got their butts in their seats yet.. Chill man.. From emails that I received for some Democrats, there are many subcomittees that they are formulating that will report to the main person. As I shared yesterday, Waxman is forming 5 subcommittees.. Now, to Pelosi.. As you know I read McKinney's bill for impeachment for the Gerbil. But, not just the Gerbil but Ambien and Condi..,

APN) ATLANTA – “Nothing is off the table unless the American people allow it to be so,” US Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) said in an exclusive interview with Atlanta Progressive News (APN) about her Articles of Impeachment against President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.

The bill, H Res. 1106, which is now available at, calls for the impeachment of President Bush for three main reasons: misleading the public over the need to invade Iraq, illegally spying on Americans, and failing to hold Cheney and Rice accountable.

So, the bottom line, GEF. I will be on my constiutents's butt like white on rice now and throughout 2007. And other states as also.. Followups and follow throughs. And I hope that you do the same...

1:28 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


So, the bottom line, GEF. I will be on my constiutents's butt like white on rice now and throughout 2007. And other states as also.. Followups and follow throughs. And I hope that you do the same...

Yep, they don't like me but they gotta deal with me cause the Truth will set you free!


1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good evening America!

I thought I’d start off the evening with a recipe.
It’s often the simplest dishes that are best.

I spent several years of my life living in Italy, working as a teacher of English as a Foreign Language. I spent two of these years living in the Veneto region in a town situated beneath the foothills of the Alps, working freelance as an English teacher and translator and as a street-side portrait artist in the seaside resort of Lido di Jesolo during the summers.

A dish I very much enjoyed was
Beans in a Meatless Sauce, or Fasoi in Salsa de Magro
This is a classic recipe of the Veneto, and towards Venice proper they simply call it fasoi in salsa.
Fasoi is Veneto dialect for faggioli, meaning beans

I remember eating it one evening after having spent a day skiing in San Martino di Castrozza, with Paula, a lady who attended the same church as I, and her husband Fabio.

It’s made with borlotti beans, best bought in a can.

The borlotti beans can be boiled very quickly in salted water, with a clove of garlic, a few fresh sage leaves, half an onion, and a small amount of celery.

For the sauce, bash up some flat leaf parsley, anchovies from a jar or tin and garlic, add a little olive oil and freshly grated pepper and cook gently for a few minutes.

Then put the sauce on the beans and serve.

Kyle Phillips has a more elaborate recipe on his website

He suggests serving them with any pan-fried or grilled meat or fish, and suggests white wine, Gambellara, or Tocai Bianco dei Berici.

I often ate them on their own in bars in the Veneto region, and always with red wine.

As a child I didn't care for beans of any form or variety. I now think they are a wonderful way of eking out meat in meals and enjoy them with a boiled bacon joint, with toulouse sausage in a casoullet, in chile con carne and cold with tuna.

1:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Yeah, McCain always loves hearing from me!! LOLMAO

1:39 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


I'll bet!

He probably hangs up the phone with:
"Oh it's her again, that woman is burning up my liver!"


1:51 PM  
Anonymous Mr. Beano said...

I think Roger Rancourt may be a result of too much Fasoi in Salsa de Magro!

1:59 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

"Yep, they don't like me but they gotta deal with me cause the Truth will set you free!"

Excuse my french, GEF, but that's tough shit if they don't like to deal with you. Oh well as I say.. You don't work for them. They work for you and the rest of the taxpayers.. And if they can't perform, then they need to get their walking papers: no more or no less...

2:00 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...


McCain is a wet noodle.. He give this touch persona outside but get soggy when he caves into the Gerbil. I had written to McCain but he never answered my question in the letter and his signature was rubber stamped.. So, he is full of it when he talks about what priniciples that he is running on as President...Give me a break...

2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


That's right, I'm a pain in his rearend but he has to put up with me! LOL


So true!! They work for us and not the other way around!

I have a nickname for McCain..
"Shrub Hugger"! LOL

2:10 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...


That is why Congress has to focus on the Ambien to dismantle:

Government Seeks New Ruling in Cheney Case

Washington - The Bush administration asked an appeals court Wednesday to overrule a federal judge and allow the White House to keep secret any records of visitors to Vice President Cheney's residence and office.

In his ruling, Urbina questioned the government's primary argument against releasing the records - that the logs are protected by Cheney's right to executive privilege.

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yep that cover-up thang, awwwww..... kinda like Bechtel and construction of NUCLEAR (NU-Q-LER) waste disposal piping welded with insufficient-gauge metals...
(and, if you talk about this to anybody.... you might get your legs broke)
Didn't Bechtel flee Iraq recently after losing 50 employees? Did I read it or dream it?

2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anthony you have some marvelous recipes. I went for the TUNA last week and it was gone! Now have to hook up the mules/wagon and go to WALMART and buy more to make that olive-oil recipe.

I'll be sure to get borlotti beans - in the can.
(Will black-eyed peas substitute?)

2:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For a umber of reasons, a number of people on this blogsite have come to associate me in one way or another with Roger Rancourt, of being his long lost brother, his twin brother, and even of being roger himself.

While I sometimes post links to articles on the same website as he does, I would like to state for the record that I am in no way associated with roger.

These websites include the truth seeker, whuch is anti-zionist and for which Jews such as Henry Makow post articles. That I visit and post links to artcles of interest on these website does not mean that I necessariuly agree with all their views. Indeed, the same aeticles find there way to other website, such as Alex Jones which is definitely not anti-semitic.

I wish to state for the record that I deplore the use of such words as “kike” and “kook” which roger has been careful not to use on this website, but which he uses on This is not some joker who has appropriated his name. If you click on his name, you arrive at precisely the same blogsite as you do if you click on his name on his comments on this blogsite.

For those interested in my real views on the Jews, I have posted a section, titled, “the ongoing role of the Jews in the purposes of God”, from my forthcoming book The Practice of Feasting Amongst God's People. While you may not agree with what I have to say, I hope you will at least agree that I am not anti-semitic.

And while I deplore the actions of the IDF in southern Lebanon last summer, I am all too conscious of the havoc which those of my own race, the anglo-saxon peoples, have wreaked in the world in the last two or so centuries, to point the finger at any other race, principally:

The slave trade and all the horrors associated with it
The treatment of the Irish which during the Irish famine amounted to genocide
The “pacification” of the highlands following Culloden
The highland clearances condemning many highland families to work in clydedale factories.
The opium trade and all the horrors associated with it. Britain even went to war with China to force them to buy opium
Colonialism, the legacy of which is with is still with us in many african countries to this day.
The annihilation of the American Indians.
The treatment of the aborigines in Australia
The US escapade in south east asia (a tragedy for all the peoples involved)…
And now Iraq…

My view of roger is that he has become so obsessed with one particular conspiracy, associated in his mind with a tiny sub-section of the Jewish people, that he has become blinded to the possibility of there being other equally sinister conspiracies, unconnected to the Jews.

And while I have no problem accepting at least the possibility that there may be some Jews who have a sinister, secret agenda, there are undoubtedly gentiles (see, e.g., Albert Pike’s letter to the Italian revolutionary, Giuseppe Mazzini), who have the same nefarious aims. After all, we are all of us, Jew or Gentile, made of the same all too fallible human flesh.

2:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi, a-loon!

Nice to hear from you again. And yes, I do visit you blog and website. Yoiu have quite some story!

I think the black-eye beans are borlotti beans.

If you do buy them in a bag, I think you're meant to leave to soke for a long time, and then pour the water away because ther's something in that black eye which gives you dreadful flatulence.

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Beano said...

I think Roger Rancourt may be a result of too much Fasoi in Salsa de Magro!


Very good, Mr Beano, very good!

3:20 PM  
Blogger patriot girl said...

I guess everyone is posting here now.

BBC had some very interesting articles today. If anyone's interested I posted them on the "statute of limitations blog" (where nobody is posting)

they are:
Terrorist Funding Coming from Paraguay
(same area where Mr. Bush decided to buy up a bunch of land), BP Lawsuit, & 10,000 Scientists telling the US govt to stay out of their bizness

3:23 PM  
Blogger patriot girl said...


how come BBC gets all our good news first?

3:24 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Patriot Girl,

I can answer that!

how come BBC gets all our good news first?

Uh because the Brits don't have to put up with the DHS censor gestapo trying to shut them up!

4:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anthony it has been mentioned before that have you have intelligence.

You truly have never used slurs here like he that shall go unnamed.

It wasn't too long aqo that "i" pointed out that you were a different breed of conspiracy researcher than the other.

You just got caught up in the turmoil is all.

You found out for yourself of why I tried to get others to see the true r......t.

That is very pleasing to read of.

4:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And further more Anthony that was a most excellent comment up there. Those are the realizations that all in the world need to grasp regardless of nationality or religious faith if we're going pull into out of this destructive path we're on.

Well done Sir.
It was RR who assumed that you were thought be him by some here. It was all in his mind, no one here did as far I know but he.

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have just been reviewing my collection of recordings of Gustav Mahler's 9th Symphony, it's first movement surely the most magnificent piece of music ever composed and it’s last in which, in Richard Osborne’s words, “certainty is crossed by music of Zen-like purity and calm, the hermit’s prayer by the Buddha’s refining fire or the refining fires of Dante’s Purgatorio”.

Like many people, I was first introduced to Mahler via his adagietto from his 5th symphony, which was made famous by Visconti’s Death in Venice.

I don’t remember with which recording I first became familiar with his 9th. A friend of mine who won an organ scholarship to Queen’s College, Cambridge, copied a recording he had onto tape back in the days when we used cassettes. He went on to do a PhD thesis on the music of Chopin and Lizst, which was later published.

Several years later, I bought the Herbert von Karajan studio recording of Mahler’s 9th with the Berliner Philharmoniker and this, for me, became the definitive, canonical performance, the first movement, a series of extraordinary climaxes “permeated,” in Alban Berg’s words, “with the premonition of death”, and which Karajan successfully brings off like no other conductor before or after him.

The Karajan recoring also contains Mahler's Ruckert Lieder, the first being, Ich bin am Welt abhanden gekommen, I am lost to the world, which somehow spoke to my mood in that year 1985-86, when I wanted to practice Quietism and wanted nothing more than to be "dead to the bustle of the world and repose in tranquil realms...alone in my heaven, in my devotion, in my song".

I also have Karajan’s live recording with the Berliner, which won record of the year orchestral award 1984, but in which he doesn’t succeed in doing so, Barbirolli’s recording with the same orchestra, possibly the best after Karajan’s, Klemperer’s with the New Philharmonia (over-rated), Boulez’s with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra (strings far too bitter for my liking and I have never listened to the entire recording), and one of the latest, Riccardo Chailly’s with the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, the opening preamble to the first movement so heartbreakingly tender that it reduced me to tears the first time I heard it reviewed on BBC Which CD, but in which, he, too, like so many others, fails to achieve the seried climax effect of Karajan’s studio recording with the Berliner.

A couple of year’s ago, Brit conductor, Sir Simon Rattle, made his debut with the Berliner Philharmoniker with Mahler’s 5th. His rendition of the Adagietto caused no small stir in the music world.

It was Leo Bernstein, a composer and teacher whom in many ways I greatly admire, who, at Kennedy’s funeral, began the egregious practice of playing the Adagietto as if it was an elegy (as we Brits say), or eulogy (as you Americans say).

(I once watched a recording of Bernstein conducting the adagietto so slowly that it seemed calculated to be played so that he could be filmed emoting to it, which I found sickening. Bernstein was a genius! But what a drama queen!

Much more moving was his Mahler’s (2nd) Resurrection symphony played in, of all places, the Negev Desert.)

Rattle, instead of playing the adagietto as, well, what it really is, which is an adagietto, bought Alma Mahler’s story that it was a love letter to her, and so played it egregiously fast.

Yes, one of the themes, the “alma theme” of the first movement of Mahler’s sixth, was indeed inspired by his love for Alma, but not the adagietto of his fifth.

The pendulum swings one way, then the other.

Do I still listen to Mahler's 9th? Not often. Like an old man whose digestive tract can no longer cope with the rich foods he enjoyed in his youth, I find that if I listen to his 9th now, it haunts me for days!

My favorite Mahler symphony? No, it's not the 5th or the 9th, but the sixth, the most intriguing and intellectually satisfying of all his works.

Oh, BTW, Gustav Mahler was Jewish.

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for that, anon at 4:12 and 4:34.

I feel as if I've been used by the unmentionable one as a human shield.

I'm glad that others realise it, too.

And by the way, GEF, at 4:01, things may look greener on the other side from where you're standing, but here they look...greener on the other side.

Remember, we get our news from your side of the Atlantic, you get yours from ours!

4:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anthony, a dash of baking soda in the boiling pot remedies: flatulence. I don't use the "soaking" method. Just wash them really well, and then bring to full rolling boil, (in three times the water level as the dried beans,) reduce heat then to simmer, add salt, soda, and (bacon strips, or butter, or country ham, or oil or.. nothing or: something else?) (Simmer @ two+ hours, total.)

4:45 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


And by the way, GEF, at 4:01, things may look greener on the other side from where you're standing, but here they look...greener on the other side.

Remember, we get our news from your side of the Atlantic, you get yours from ours!

Well that's probably right.. Cause we also get our news from Australia so maybe Australia gets all the latest from US...


4:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

patriot girl said...

how come BBC gets all our good news first?


Very simple patriot girl. Have you ever looked to see which way JPF's globe is turning?

And where, in relation to the United States, is the BBC on that globe?

I'm just kidding you, patriot girl. Enjoy your evening and keep in touch!

4:59 PM  
Blogger patriot girl said...

GEF and Anthony-

Well thank God for the blogosphere... right?

(for now anyway)
we can all share what the rest of us don't have

5:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a-loon, I suffer from a bit of flatulence anyway!

Do you think a spoonfull of baking soda in my cup of tea every morning would resolve this?

5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anthony, I believe the entire world is suffering with flatulence these daze. Perhaps we should ask our foreign investors (WHO OWN OUR LOCAL WATER SUPPLY) to add a touch of soda in the processing, creating yet another "Great Advancement for Mankind."

5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a-loon, it'd also reduce global warming, which, I'm told, is a result of cow flatulence. I'm convinced that the cows are just patsy's, and that it's human flatulence what's to blame!

5:50 PM  
Anonymous rancour the wancour said...

I blame the zionists!

I have it on the best of authorities that jewish emissions contain ten times the amount of carbon dioxide than gentile ones.

5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well then it must be a problem for others than Native Americans who don't suffer with flatulence. What is the natural remedy for gall stones, cholesterol, processed sugar (which produces infant flatulence with processed baby's milk) and venereal disease?


6:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't take any more of this. I'm going to bed!

Talk to y'all tomorrow!

g'night america!!!

6:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


You have been loonified! LOLMAO

6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(I hope at least he has a sense of humor, Anthony, I'm kidding half the time. Sometimes those Brits are a little "rigid" or, a "tad" Scottish in nature?)

I'm a CARTOONIST at heart,,.!!! ANd I'll never show the heels of my shoes to ANYBODY: EVER AGAIN!!

And Mr. Wancour, I still don't understand what a "Zionist" really is. All I know is some Jewish folks, who are quite rare in my hometown, tell my brother he has something called chutzpah, but you know I don't, because my nose isn't as long as his.

Anthony my Dad's folks came here from the Isle of Man, and I figure they must have been thrown out of Ireland BEFORE the Potato Famine, for stealing a rabbit, hopefully SOLID GOLD, married Indians, and then: lied about it .......!


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