Sep 14, 2006

Please Pass The Pop-Corn...

Novak vs. Armitage: Was the Plame Leak Deliberate?

"Novak neglects to note that Karl Rove was the source he used to confirm the leak he had received from Armitage--and that Rove also leaked classified information on Valerie Wilson to Matt Cooper of Time magazine before the leak appeared in Novak's column. Nor does Novak mention that Scooter Libby leaked information on Valerie Wilson to Judith Miller of The New York Times weeks before Novak entered Armitage's office--and also confirmed Rove's leak to Cooper. (A source close to Rove is quoted in Hubris saying that Rove "probably" learned about Valerie Wilson from Libby.) Like Armitage, Rove and Libby kept silent, even as the White House claimed they were not involved in the leak. Maybe it's time for all leakers to come clean and tell what happened." <more>

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Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Well, Novakula has changed his spin of the Plame leak story as many times a woman changes her clothes.

One minute Novak said that Armitage told him that Plame worked in Counter-Proliferation. Then, in one his columns, Novak describes Armitage's leak as deliberate. Yet, in one of the column, he used the word "operative" and he makes this claim twice. According to Armitage, he claimed that he didn't know Plame was an operative or knew her CIA covert identity was Valerie Plame.

According to blogger Emptywheel on The Last Harrah:

Novak's version of what Armitage said to him has taken 5 different forms since he first published this leak in July 2003.
.CIA labels Plame as Counter-Proliferation (CPD)
•Armitage labels Plame as CPD
•Armitage doesn't say anything about CPD
•Armitage labels Plame as Nuclear Non-Proliferation (not CPD)
•Armitage labels Plame as CPD


The more that Novak talks, the more incriminating that he looks!

11:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I fail to understand how a Douchebag like Novak is still walking the streets.
Put this traitorous bastard in jail!

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Richard_Armitage

Perhaps white is black, black is white and Armitage is just the cover-up for the leak. He certainly seems to be getting a nice position for his little oops. (Way to go, Valerie!)

Exactly how many crimes are covered up by that 1947 Act that really has nothing to do with anything except protecting crooks?

11:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

treason fits the deed for them all

11:51 AM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

From the Wilson's webiste:

CREW’s executive director Melanie Sloan said today, "The addition of Armitage as a defendant in no way reduces the culpability of the three original defendants. Separate and apart from Armitage’s actions, Libby, Rove and Cheney engaged in an intentional and malicious conspiracy to expose Mrs. Wilson’s identity as a covert operative for the CIA in order to punish Mr. Wilson for his public statements about the President’s justifications for the war against Iraq." Sloan continued, "this case was and remains about one issue – the abuse of government power."

Armitage is a good egg for the Wilsons to bring down the three amigos as Ms. Sloan says, "the abuse of government power." Armitage is not excused from what he did to the Wilsons. But, rest assured, Armitage is good access to the civil lawsuit and the first to admit that he was one of the leakers. So, Armitage knows that he will be paying the ultimate price for invading the Wilsons' privacy.

12:03 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Folks,

The Hammer is in the news again.

DeLay Could Face Conspiracy Charge

The Associated Press
Wednesday 13 September 2006

Court to consider reinstating dropped charge against ex-House leader.

Austin, Texas - The state's highest criminal appeals court said Wednesday it would consider reinstating a conspiracy charge against former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, further delaying his felony money laundering trial.
A Travis County grand jury indicted DeLay and two political consultants last year on charges stemming from Republican fundraising during the 2002 legislative races.
A state district court judge later threw out one of two conspiracy charges. Prosecutors asked the appeals court to reinstate the dropped charge, and the court said Wednesday that it would consider that request.

12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.correntewire.com/
diebold_machines_are_h_i_v_positive

12:33 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

Yes, SPB...

I do believe Novakula speak with a forked-tongue...and he is in good company with Dumbya, Ambien, Roll-over-Rover, and Scooty-Patootie!!!

Does anyone know if the US vs. Libby trial will be open to some of the public or does DC have small court rooms? Any possiblity of TV coverage?

Good Afternoon Justice Bloggers and Fitzie!

12:52 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Biloxi,

Delay needs to practice lighting cigarettes and tucking in his orange jumpsuit neatly so his prison MAN won't beat him too much...

:)

12:55 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Biloxi,

Hmmm...

Looks like the War on Terror may last at least 500-800 years...

So that means that we're already in WW3 and it's eventually gonna escalate to the 'shroom clouds...

War is big business and it's getting better as we escalate it too..

I'm imagining the consequences of waking up the day after the elections in November and seeing the GOP congress and GOP senate still there in charge of both...

That's worse than a freddy kruger nightmare...

Could American people really be that dumb?


Check out what Powell Thinks..

1:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, how does any of this effect "Sealed v Sealed?"

1:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Mar2006/
herman0306.html

1:25 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

CC:

Count Chocokula Novak is in good hands with the Gerbil and company. Talking from their rear ends and mouth and full of crapola!

GEF:

The Hammer will get nailed soon. My hats off to Ronnie Earle to sticking it to Spanky! I sense a fitting for an orange jumpsuit for DeLay very soon.

As far as Powell, we shall see if he puts his money where he mouth is.. I certainly don't trust the other three stooges that are against the Gerbil's policies on war crimes that the Gerbil is trying to pass..

"I'm imagining the consequences of waking up the day after the elections in November and seeing the GOP congress and GOP senate still there in charge of both..." Try to be positive, GEF! It is up to the people that want a change in this country. In 1965, there were a lot people that felt that a civil right bill would not exist or pass, but it did!! If you can believe it, you can achieve it... There is too much spin in the press on which political party who control the House. Again, it is up to the people who want this country back in order.

1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://irishantiwar.org/index.adp

1:38 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

Bloggers,

For those of you who haven't seen this before...you have to see this excellent video demonstratation of "How to Hack a Diebold Voting Machine" by Prinecton computer scientists. It is way too easy to compromise these machines!

http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/
voting/videos.html

Computers are just a bad idea when it comes to voting...and paper trails won't work either if they are coming from a hacked machine...there is always a way to get around it for the hacker and theives...

Please send this video link to anyone you can think of...there are so many people unaware of the dangers of computer voting...

1:44 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

9/11 was inside job.

Bush lied in his SOTU speech with those 16 words.

Bush misled Americans to go to war because of that lie.

Iraq was attacked because of that lie.

Our troops are dying every day because of that lie!

This country is now trillions of dollars in debt because of that lie!

Vote for a Democratic Congress and change the corrupt politics of this country!!

Impeach Bush and Cheney!!

Bring our troops home!!

1:52 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

CC:

I just looked at the video at the Diebold machine. Yes, it is not exactly a safe machine. But, then again, I can see why Blackwell has shared in the Diebold company and why those particular machines were push in the 2000 and 2004 elections. Nothing is guarantee such as paper or electronic votes nor is life, in general, is not guaranteed either.. Again, it is up to the people who will go against the odds to turn this country.. The GOP koolaids and the Gerbil and company can steal, lie, and manipulate this election, but it will never change the hearts of people that they are against the war and want a change in this country.. I think the GOP spin on how the election will turn out is purely a scare tactic and programming to the American people. We all need to quit bellyaching over the GOP spin bullshit and make a change in this country!

2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Delay better get the conspiracy charge.

Now that is justice.

Every one of these mother fer bastards needs to go down, including and especially Diebold.....

I want to see Diebold completely demolished in court and then, dismantled!

END DIEBOLD: Restore what you took, and bleed for it!!!

2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Delay better get the conspiracy charge.

Now that is justice.

Every one of these mother fer bastards needs to go down, including and especially Diebold.....

I want to see Diebold completely demolished in court and then, dismantled!

END DIEBOLD: Restore what you took, and bleed for it!!!

2:03 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Bush Tells Barnes Capturing Bin Laden Is ‘Not A Top Priority Use of American Resources’
Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes appeared on Fox this morning to discuss his recent meeting with President Bush in the Oval Office. The key takeaway for Barnes was that “bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism.” Barnes said that Bush told him capturing bin Laden is “not a top priority use of American resources.”
Watch it.


CLICK

2:24 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Chimpcoulter,

Thanks for the link..

I spoke of that before, I call it the VOTE FLIP!

The GOP mastered it back in 2000...

A Category 5 storm of lawyers are gonna be at the ready in November for such eventualities..

I suggest all Americans vote by absentee ballot or paper ballot...

2:24 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Fitz,

You may want to check this out since you have shares with Google!

Roll Call: Google 'eager' to work with Republicans

Google is "eager" to work with the Republican Party and has boosted its presence in Washington, D.C., according to Roll Call.

GEF:

I agree with absentee ballots. I have voted absentee way before the Gerbil crawled into the WH 6 years ago!

2:39 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Biloxi,

The outrage over Diebold, ESS, and GOP owned e-scam machines is just beginning...

Cause that ain't no conspiracy theory..

hee hee hee..

Btw: Missed your comments earlier..

quote:
Try to be positive, GEF! It is up to the people that want a change in this country. In 1965, there were a lot people that felt that a civil right bill would not exist or pass, but it did!! If you can believe it, you can achieve it... There is too much spin in the press on which political party who control the House. Again, it is up to the people who want this country back in order.

Oh I'm positive alright..
No matter what, there's gonna be a huge blowback in DC this winter..

I'm stocking up on extra Popcorn now.. ;)

2:50 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

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2:59 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

GEF:

Notice that the GOP koolaid are cranking up their spin of the November election. They know that the party is over. But people are sick and tired of being sick and tired. The economy, the market, the wallets of the American people are showing that they simply want a change. Now, if the Democrats would just go out promote a party for change rather than to say vote for Democrat, then they will be in better shape.. But, the GOP need to worry about the people who are register as GOP. They can say one thing to the GOP party but when they get behind the polling place or mail in their absentee ballots that they may not vote GOP!

Will be an interesting movie when the November election is over. Pass the popcorn..

3:00 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

SPB & GEF,

In my opinion any computer is just too easy to hack and to cover your tracks...

I think it is also important how and with whom is present when the votes are counted...(there may never be a perfect way) but as much as I know about technology... I would favor paper ballots and a bipartisan counting system.

Also, I'm stocking up on Carmel Popcorn by the tubs to watch the November elections and for the run-up to the Libby trial...so many things to look forward to...

3:03 PM  
Blogger FBI said...

Another temporary win for us:

"Defying President Bush, a Senate committee passed a terrorism tribunal bill Thursday protecting foreign suspects’ rights. The 15-9 vote came hours after former Secretary of State Colin Powell protested harsh interrogations of terror suspects as the president lobbied personally for it on Capitol Hill"

I just love those simple words:

Defying President Bush

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/
14814940/

3:08 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Biloxi,

quote:
Now, if the Democrats would just go out promote a party for change rather than to say vote for Democrat, then they will be in better shape..

Frankly speaking I'd like to see some independents at the Ballots...The more Independents the merrier cause some of the DEMs like lieberman leave a bad taste in my mouth with their do nothing attitutde...

The next Presidential race may feature an Independent who may just become president...

That's when the two party crime hedgemony will end, the minute that happens...

3:14 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Chimpcoulter,

quote:
I would favor paper ballots and a bipartisan counting system.

Simplicity is best! *Cheers*

3:18 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Chimpcoulter,

Good, now we can persue prosecution for gerbil, ambien, and rumpelt for war crimes as well as treason in a time of war...

..this is getting good..
I may have that Popcorn right now..
{crunch}

;)
*Cheers*

3:25 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

From Video yesterday...

9/11 was an inside job
9/11 was an inside job
9/11 was an inside job

...The Constitution was replaced by the Patriot Act..

3:32 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

GEF:

I always believe in the near future that we will see an Independent President running this country. I think that people will eventually want a person who has its own ideas based on the principles of the Founding Fathers, new innovated ideas, and serve the American people.. I think that Gen-X and Gen-Y will push more for Independent Party. Those generations are pretty much worn from the Democrats and GOP philosophy and yet many of the officials in office have old ideas and been in office about 100 years!

CC:

Yes, it is too easy to hack in computers. But, I think people should have a choice of the paper ballots or electronically. IMHO, I still vote absentee electronically and never had a problem with it. But, I believe that both type of voting should be check and recheck. Again, nothing is guaranteed in life. People still believe that giving your credit card over the internet is more of a risk. Well, handing a waiter your credit card after a meal is more of risk than the internet.. But, I do believe of getting rid of the GOP Diebold and other type of voting machines that were involved in voting rigging. Any voting machine in which the GOP profited from that compamy spells trouble.. But, I think people most likely will do absentee ballots this time to prevent another voting rigging...

3:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While Democrats and many independent analysts say that the field of competitive races in the House is growing, Republican officials yesterday claimed that some GOP lawmakers can rest easy.

Seizing on recent news reports, the Republican National Committee (RNC) distributed a list yesterday declaring that 14 once-competitive House GOP seats are no longer endangered.

The RNC and the Republican campaign chief in the House both point to the decision by national Democrats not to fund Democratic candidates in seats throughout the country.

Citing articles in local media, the RNC list distributed yesterday included 14 GOP-held seats that it is confident it will retain this fall. The list was broken into two tiers though it was unclear at press time why RNC split the lawmakers into two groupings.

The first tier includes the seats filled by Reps. Jeb Bradley (N.H.), Charlie Bass (N.H.), Mike Ferguson (N.J.), Jon Porter (Nev.) and John Sweeney (N.Y.).

The second tier include the seats held by Reps. John Doolittle (Calif.), Richard Pombo (Calif.), Ric Keller (Fla.), Ron Lewis (Ky.), Mark Kirk (Ill.), James Walsh (N.Y.) and Frank Wolf (Va.) and two open seats in Florida which are being vacated by Reps. Mike Bilirakis and Katherine Harris.

4:20 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Grandmanuk,

Well what can we do if the GOP plans to even hack the absentee ballot scan-readers ?

Only option left is to stay home and not vote..

Which is currently not working either...

That's why currently the only option is Class Action Lawsuit Nationwide...

But you didn't hear that from me...

I hope Ohio's investigation turns up a snake or too...

hee hee hee!

4:25 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Anon 5:20,

That report was PURE GOP MARSHMALLOW SPIN...
weeeeeeee... he he..

No substance..

4:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fitz!

Saw you at lunch today -- if I wan't so shy I would have come over and told you how cool you are (and given you a big kiss).

Cheers!
(that IBC root beer is good stuff)

4:29 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Hey All,

10 Major News Stories the Media is Ignoring...

And with Foreclosures Skyrocketing Nationwide now, Pay Particular Attention to Story 4..

Thanks again to GEEZERPOWER For such fine material!

Dang, I'm gotta put that guy on my
buddy list! ;)

4:34 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Hey Geezerpower,

There's 25 stories of them actually...

Top 25 News Stories being Hidden away by the GOP

4:59 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Hey Fitz,

Check this out from my link of the top 25 stories..he he!

#24 Cheney’s Halliburton Stock Rose Over 3000 Percent Last Year

Sources:
Raw Story, October 2005
Title: “Cheney’s Halliburton Stock Options Rose 3,281 Percent Last Year, Senator Finds”
Author: John Byrne

Senator Frank Lautenberg’s website
Title: “Cheney’s Halliburton Stock Options Soar to $9.2 Million”

Faculty Evaluator: Phil Beard
Student Researchers: Matthew Beavers and Willie Martin

Vice President Dick Cheney’s stock options in Halliburton rose from $241,498 in 2004 to over $8 million in 2005, an increase of more than 3,000 percent, as Halliburton continues to rake in billions of dollars from no-bid/no-audit government contracts.

An analysis released by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) reveals that as Halliburton’s fortunes rise, so do the Vice President’s. Halliburton has already taken more than $10 billion from the Bush-Cheney administration for work in Iraq. They were also awarded many of the unaccountable post-Katrina government contracts, as off-shore subsidiaries of Halliburton quietly worked around U.S. sanctions to conduct very questionable business with Iran (See Story #2). “It is unseemly,” notes Lautenberg, “for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his administration funnels billions of dollars to it.”

According to the Vice President’s Federal Financial Disclosure forms, he holds the following Halliburton stock options:

100,000 shares at $54.5000 (vested), expire December 3, 2007
33,333 shares at $28.1250 (vested), expire December 2, 2008
300,000 shares at $39.5000 (vested), expire December 2, 2009

The Vice President has attempted to fend off criticism by signing an agreement to donate the after-tax profits from these stock options to charities of his choice, and his lawyer has said he will not take any tax deduction for the donations. However, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) concluded in September 2003 that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a “financial interest” regardless of whether the holder of the options will donate proceeds to charities. Valued at over $9 million, the Vice President could exercise his stock options for a substantial windfall, not only benefiting his designated charities, but also providing Halliburton with a tax deduction.

CRS also found that receiving deferred compensation is a financial interest. The Vice President continues to receive deferred salary from Halliburton. While in office, he has received the following salary payments from Halliburton:

Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2001: $205,298
Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2002: $162,392
Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2003: $178,437
Deferred salary paid by Halliburton to Vice President Cheney in 2004: $194,852

(The CRS report can be downloaded at: http://lautenberg.senate.gov/Report.pdf)

These CRS findings contradict Vice President Cheney’s puzzling view that he does not have a financial interest in Halliburton. On the September 14, 2003 edition of Meet the Press in response to questions regarding his relationship with Halliburton, where from 1995 to 2000 he was employed as CEO, Vice President Cheney said, “Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush’s vice president, I’ve severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest. I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven’t had, now, for over three years.”

Comment: A similar undercovered story of conflicting interest and disaster profiteering by those in the top echelon of the U.S. Government is of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s connections to Gilead Sciences, the biotech company that owns the rights to Tamiflu—the influenza remedy that is now the most-sought after drug in the world. This story was brought forward by Fortune senior writer, Nelson D. Schwartz, on October 31, 2005 in an article titled “Rumsfeld’s growing stake in Tamiflu,” and by F. William Engdahl for GlobalResearch, on October 30, 2005, in an article titled “Is avian flu another Pentagon hoax?”

Rumsfeld served as Gilead’s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to Federal Financial Disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.
The forms don’t reveal the exact number of shares Rumsfeld owns, but whipped up fears of an avian flu pandemic and the ensuing scramble for Tamiflu sent Gilead’s stock from $35 to $47 in 2005, making the Pentagon chief, already one of the wealthiest members of the Bush cabinet, at least $1 million richer.

What’s more, the federal government is emerging as one of the world’s biggest customers for Tamiflu. In July 2005, the Pentagon ordered $58 million worth of the treatment for U.S. troops around the world, and Congress is considering a multibillion dollar purchase. Roche expects 2005 sales for Tamiflu to total at about $1 billion, compared with $258 million in 2004.

5:10 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Granmanuk,

The Absentee Ballot e-Reader was different than the E-vote machine...

That Diebold or ESS machine does not scan paper ballots...

It's a different machine they use...

5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey is fussbudget a man or a woman?
HA!

5:21 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

#24 Cheney’s Halliburton Stock Rose Over 3000 Percent Last Year
------------------------------
GEF:
Well, PNAC works very well for the Baron, doesn't it? Also, for Rummy and the whole gang! Why else would they belong to a non-profit organization, unless, they could rob the taxpayers?

ALL members of PNAC need to be investigated! :)

5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.unknownnews.org/
060911-photo-essay.html

How does it make you feel?

5:26 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Hey Shays! Don't you know you're kissing the Quaker Oats Man?

Shays kisses Quaker Oats Man

5:30 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Hi S-q,

Don't forget #2 and #17 in that list...

#2 Halliburton Charged with Selling Nuclear Technologies to Iran

#17 Iraq Invasion Promotes OPEC Agenda

5:33 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

s-q,

Those are two ghosts of the past..

Relics of a bygone era.. ;)

5:34 PM  
Blogger Phx said...

Anon 6:26,

I'm saddened and feel sorry for the gerbil...

No one is born an evildoer..

5:35 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Don't forget #2 and #17 in that list...

#2 Halliburton Charged with Selling Nuclear Technologies to Iran

#17 Iraq Invasion Promotes OPEC Agenda
------------------------------
Hi GEF:

#17:
Of course, it was NEVER about bringing democracy to Iraq!

Also, the Gerbil and Baron & all involved, knew there weren't any WMD.

The bloodshed was for oil, money, power, control and evildoers greed!

#2:
Guarantees more wars. Give the enemy weapons and then attack them for having them!!

5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The smoke being churned out by the neofascists is choking-thick. Do they truly believe the spin is working?

Wild speculation: Powell will take over as Joint Chief of Staff. By then, lots of people who crucified him will eat crow. He was, I believe, on AF1 together with the Plame memo and the Chimp. One additional witness would be cool, huh?

http://www.light-to-dark.com/lets_out_plame.html

He may be an American hero so great that there is no appropriate medal. I hope so.

At any rate, I've a cartoon that has been collecting gamma rays ever since Powell's son quit the FCC. I surmised then that as a responsible father he had to get his son out of neocon-operative capacity. His demeanor since then has not changed my opinion.

I believe him to be a witness of uncompromising character (of course, this will be slowly become widely felt after hatred for him fades into pride and joy).

Of course, who listens to a crazy artist's opinion anyway?

I was likely wrong about Mueller, and getting emotional about his appearance and co-endorsement of NSA spying with Goss and Negroponti may have been insufficient evidence of any unpatriot behavior.

Rumsfeld should be put on suicide watch and never allowed to be near the nuclear football.

Finally, Patrick Fitzgerald has my unreserved support for his noble, beyond-the-call dedication to the lady of the scales. This truly will be a lesson for all Americans. I'm paying attention, sir.

5:54 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

How does it make you feel?

6:26 PM
------------------------------
Anon:
It makes me feel sorry and ashamed for Americans.

6:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Given the hacking ease, can't an action be brought that would cause the legal impounding of all hackable machines because of a clear and present danger to the right to vote?

Could state attorneys general acquire an injunction as a preemptive measure to preserve the letter of the Constitution? Would it not be like a dangerous design flaw in a gun? Is it not the single most important right protecting all of us this November and forever?

6:11 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

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6:14 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

Anon at 6:26:

I feel saddened for the people who died in that awful terrorist attacks and the families that continue to want answers till this day. But by all means, I don't feel sorry for the Gerbil. We all have to make decisions in life for the good and the bad. And those decisions come with consequences. And those consequences will shape the decisions that you make for the good and the bad. The Gerbil decided to lie and cheat the American people. So, whatever he has done to the American people will come back in full circle. We will never bring back the people who died from 9/11 or the troops that have been killed overseas but we can learn and move forward. But, by all means, I don't feel ashamed of being American or that flag that we salute to. The Founding fathers created a footprint of democracy and freedoms in this country and it is the President of the U.S. that is not honoring the Founding Fathers. We have taken our freedoms for granted and it is time for people to appreciate those freedoms and not take it for granted because it can be taken away. That is what the Gerbil is trying to do. But, we shouldn't ever forget what happen on September 11, 2001 but we have to learn who were, who are we are now, and who we can be.

6:16 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

SPB:
Let me clarify that...
I don't feel ashamed to be an American...I feel ashamed of what the President has done.

I am proud to be an American! :)

6:21 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"I feel ashamed of what the President has done."

Sorry, S-Q!

I don't feel "sorry" for what the President has done. We all have to live with the decision whether we voted for him or not of putting hin in office. I'm angry of what he has turned this country into but not sympathetic of what he has done. The President of the United States is an elected offical and works for this country. He is not above power over the American people nor God! What I feel sorry is for the Founding Fathers and others before the Founding Fathers that have sacrificed their lives so we can have the democracy and freedoms that we have today. The Gerbil hasn't sacrificed crapola for this country. The international countires feel sympathy for the U.S. citizens because it is the government that they resent and not the American people. The Gerbil doesn't know what "sacrifice" means.

6:36 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

This is what the Founding Fathers had to sacrifice for the Declaration of Independence and this is the one thing that the Gerbil is trying to alter and take away:


We tend to forget that to sign the Declaration of Independence was to commit an act of treason -- and the punishment for treason was death. To publicly accuse George III of "repeated injuries and usurpations," to announce that Americans were therefore "Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown," was a move fraught with danger -- so much so that the names of the signers were kept secret for six months

They were risking everything, and they knew it. That is the meaning of the Declaration's soaring last sentence:

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."
Most of the signers survived the war; several went on to illustrious careers.

Two of them became presidents of the United States, and among the others were future vice presidents, senators, and governors. But not all were so fortunate.

Nine of the 56 died during the Revolution, and never tasted American independence.

Five were captured by the British.
Eighteen had their homes -- great estates, some of them - looted or burnt by the enemy.
Some lost everything they owned.
Two were wounded in battle.
Two others were the fathers of sons killed or captured during the war.


http://www.ussyorktown.com/yorktown/foundingfathers.htm

This story was told to me years ago so I don't take my freedoms for granted. It is too bad the Gerbil in office is clueless.

"Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." It was not just a rhetorical flourish.

6:43 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

SPB:
Let me try this again...sorry, if I am not making myself clear...

I am sorry and ashamed for what Bush has done to America and to the world! I am sorry for the families who have lost loved ones in the war. I am sorry for the families of the 9/11 victims.

I do NOT feel sorry for Bush!

No, I did NOT vote for him.

6:46 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

By the way...

I don't know if I ever mentioned this before.

Two of my ancestors signed The Declaration of Independance and they were from Virginia.

6:54 PM  
Blogger SP Biloxi said...

"No, I did NOT vote for him.'

Again, it doesn't matter if you didn't vote for him or if you did. The point being is that all of us as American people suffered the consequences from the Gerbil. He is still the President in office whether we dislike him or like him. But, now, that the 51% who voted for the Gerbil have taken their blinders off and see the Gerbil for who is. it is time for those people to willing to step up to the plate and make a change in this country. We can't change what happen happen in this country from the past. Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a promissory note. What we have now is the present. And what is happening in the present can change for the positive if people want that to happen and make it happen.

6:58 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

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6:59 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

OOPS!! Typo! That should have been:

Declaration of Independence

6:59 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

And what is happening in the present can change for the positive if people want that to happen and make it happen.
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SPB:
Absolutely!! It is up to we, the people, and I am sure we can make it happen. :)

7:02 PM  
Blogger Geezer Power said...

Thanks for the link GEF I've got it bookmarked, and will add it to my blog...
What an incredible amount of info in one spot. I might have to dump some files from my head and defragment...lol
and now a message from Merle

8:47 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

GP (GeezerPower)& GEF:
I put that link on my blog too! The more people that see that, the better!! :)

9:00 PM  
Blogger Kay Shelton said...

Hey GrandmaNuk, we also have a "war on drugs." Man, if I *ever* see a bottle of Ibuprofen pick up a gun and start shooting and bottles of Vicodin start driving tanks, call Dr. Kevorkian, OK?

How many martinis at lunch did those D.C. spin idiots drink before they came up with those slogans!?

>;-)

10:07 PM  

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