Nov 6, 2005

Bush Champion of Ethics in White House...

Bush is sending White House staff to "ethics" school?

Bush Orders Staff to Attend Ethics Briefings
White House Counsel to Give 'Refresher' Course

eth·ic (noun)
a. A set of principles of right conduct.
b. A theory or a system of moral values: “An ethic of service is at war with a craving for gain” (Gregg Easterbrook).
2. ethics (used with a sing. verb) The study of the general nature of morals and of the specific moral choices to be made by a person; moral philosophy.
3. ethics (used with a sing. or pl. verb) The rules or standards governing the conduct of a person or the members of a profession: medical ethics.

Ethics Schmethics...Like class, I am of the opinion that you are either born with them or learn what is right and wrong at an early age and surely before your first job in the White House.
Is Bush attending the classes? Is Cheney? Are the courses pass/fail or are they just auditing them?


Anonymous jackie said...


I just read your comments about the White House sending their staff to Ethic school. How can Bush and Cheney be example to his staff and to the American people by not attending the class first before their staff. It is a bit hypocritical for Bush to ask his staff when he is the one who needs a take class on either Ethics 101, Moral Value 101 or Intergity 101.

9:10 PM  
Blogger John Clancy said...

I agree with Patrick's statement that you either know what is right and wrong or you don't. But a quick look at Georgetown's JD curriculum just for a grin shows that there a lot of classes in ethics. If that Patrick's statement is correct, then there shold be no need for classes in ethics. Lawyers probably need that type of training due to problems they face during their career. Ethics isn't the problem. Know what is right & wrong is. President Bush could solve his "ethics" problem in a few short steps. The 1st would be sending out a memo to all staff saying in effect that before they take any action or make any decision, it should pass the "newspaper test": would they want to read about their action or decion in the paper the next day?

9:49 PM  
Blogger ollie said...

look, you people just don't get it. Bush was chosen by the Almighty (I mean the beared guy upstairs, not the Honorable Mr. Alito) to be president. Whatever he does is ethical, by definition. So he doesn't need those classes.

So there.

And anyone who disagrees with this is a blame-American-first-God-Hating-Liberal who probably thinks that football teams should routinely punt on third down. Eh?

11:27 PM  
Blogger Roberto Iza Valdes said...

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Blogger ollie said...

Senor Roberto:

perdoname pero me espanol is muy terrible. Pero yo esta en los Estados Unidos; entonce no necesito ensenar un otra lengua; todos los mas importantes persona entiendes ingles! :-)

(es una chista mala) ;-)

12:08 PM  
Blogger ollie said...

Hey Mr. Fitzgereald, since you talked about the topic of ethics, guess who is TEACHING the course?

You guess it; the queen of "OMG's, eye-liner and do-overs": our beloved Harriet Miers!

Of course I am a bit hurt that you didn't tell us all about that...

12:33 PM  
Anonymous karl v. said...

Ummm...a dog ate my homework.

2:04 PM  
Blogger Kit Neill said...

Ethics? The Bush Admin? It would be laughable if it weren't my country, too.
You go, PJ!

3:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the White House is a bit late to teach ethics and briefings upon it? How would they handle such a thing as ethics in the ideal Athens of ancient Greece? Well they did not have schools with walls, and drilling students was for slaves. Free men did not sit in classes or briefings; they heard lectures twice daily, one complex, and another simplified. They had friendly conversations outdoors. In all their educational system was so free from experts; it selected citizens at random to run water works, and other high offices. They did have technicians, but they were not of high status. The Ancient Greeks handled ethics through their education by talking one on one and in groups. Problems with ethics came with our one dimensional Prussian, Indian caste educational system, which was designed to create less intelligent people, not to treasure widespread competence. So here we are with the White House, in the middle of all its Greco-Roman buildings, teaching ethics which was the near automatic sum of an Athenian free education. After all, gaining your education in discussion groups made outright lies or cheating impractical or simply transparent. Ethics naturally flows from real living. In my thoughts speaking the truth was an acquired instinct, since in family life no one could get away with mendacity. For the Athenians, it must have been like a family, their democracy and their education. We all have much to learn about all we have missed in life, especially about real education. Ethics as virtue begins at home.

4:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fascinating discussions of what the meaning of "is" is here... (in re: whether anyone in the administration advocates torture)

Here's one of my favorite parts (about the ethics classes):

Q Scott, is anyone in the White House exempt from participating in these and --

MR. McCLELLAN: No, it's a mandatory session.

Q Would the Vice President have to attend?

MR. McCLELLAN: It's mandatory for all White House staff. That's who it's for.

Q And he's considered staff?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, he's considered the Vice President. (Laughter.)

Q So he does not have to attend?

MR. McCLELLAN: All White House staff is required to participate in these sessions.


4:16 AM  
Blogger Roberto Iza Valdes said...

One may be born with principles, but
I thank my parents and my friends for

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