Jan 7, 2007

Happy Sunday...

Do you spy anything interesting in the "REPLY OF I. LEWIS LIBBY IN SUPPORT OF HIS LATEST JURY INSTRUCTIONS" filed on January 3rd?"

Boilerplate language or relevant to Sealed vs. Sealed? ;P

Libby's Jury Instructions


Anonymous PFEB Grunt said...


10:17 AM  
Anonymous t said...

Happy Sunday;-)

10:33 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Good Morning Fitz and Justice Bloggers..

Happy Sunday!!

It's a good day for an Impeachment Protest after Church!

Right there in DC.

BYOV = Bring your own voice!

Impeach Bush and Cheney under Article 2 Section 4 of the Constitution.

Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors..

There's no getting away baaby..

Hee hee hee!

10:44 AM  
Anonymous Karl Rove said...

Nothing to see here. Move along!

11:18 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Here's what's Interesting Fitz...


hee hee!

11:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Sunday Morning Everyone!

Yes, Impeachment is the air! hehe

Hold them accountable!! :)

11:23 AM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

Cheney is immunized.

What does that mean?

11:24 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...




11:25 AM  
Anonymous Dubya said...

Barney, me and all my staffers did have our flu shots.

11:26 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Hi s-q,

I stole your socks this morning...

Hee hee Eat your heart out Dr. Evil!


11:26 AM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

What does it mean, though?

11:26 AM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

It means Cheney can commit perjury?

11:27 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Hi Kathleen! :)

Good question..

11:28 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


Perhaps it means that Ambien or Porkrind can't implicate themselves for their testimony ?

11:30 AM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

Okay, I'm going out to fix my truck, but when I come back youz lawyerly folk finds out, okay?

What does it mean that Cheney is immunized?

11:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


So, that's where my pink socks went...they look real cute on ya babe! LOL

11:31 AM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

The only witness we know is testifying for either side is Cheney, right?

If he has immunity, that means he can perjure himself.


What else could it mean?

11:32 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

By the way I get all giddy inside when Fitz mentions..

Sealed v. Sealed :)

I have dreams of it being:
"The United States of America v. Dick Cheney!"

For Treason!


11:32 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


So, that's where my pink socks went...they look real cute on ya babe! LOL

Well I didn't have any left so I had to grab yours..

I just can't sit down lest anyone see those pink fuzzy things!


11:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Oh dear..they don't go very well with dark suits either and they look funny with shiny shoes too! hehe

11:35 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


Don't worry, I'm driving as fast as I can to the Macys Mens dept..

The Pedal is all the way down s-q,


11:38 AM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...


(f) Criminal action must be dismissed when the Government, on the ground of privilege, elects not to comply with an order to produce, for the accused's inspection and for admission in evidence, relevant statements or reports in its possession of government witnesses touching the subject matter of their testimony at the trial. Pp. 669-672.

(g) The burden is the Government's, not to be shifted to the trial judge, to decide whether the public prejudice of allowing the crime to go unpunished is greater than that attendant upon the possible disclosure of state secrets and other confidential information in the Government's possession. P. 672.

But in this case, the only witnesses to the crime being charged (lying to investigators) are the FBI interviewers and Fitz himself?

They're gonna try to say the FBI lied?

11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Slow down...if you get stopped for speeding..the Officer will surely laugh his a$$ off when he sees those pink socks! And, I don't want to see you on the BREAKING NEWS story this morning! LOL

11:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Also, he would say, "Oh, those are S-Q's socks because I saw her wearing those the other day when we were drinking coffee together!"

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

Will you people be serious and nevermind the socks for a minute.

What's going on with this defense except an attempt at confusing the Government (more obstruction)?

11:43 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


Also, he would say, "Oh, those are S-Q's socks because I saw her wearing those the other day when we were drinking coffee together!"

Ok, then let me see if I can go even faster then!

Nothing like watching blaring sirens early in the morning to wake you up!!

What can I do for you Mr. Occifer..
Nope *Hic* I'm not Drunk! I'm plowed...

Screeech!! LOL*)

11:46 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


I think this is a slam dunk case for Fitz..

That Gilligan defense doesn't stand a chance..

and that Sealed v. Sealed has further implication for the gerbil crime syndicate!

11:48 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...



Think of Fitz as a big cat playing with his mice before he eats him..


11:49 AM  
Anonymous Kentucky Woman said...

GEF...not to be rude, but could you speak in lay terms and be more specific?



11:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Okay, seriously, Fitz has them all just where he wants them...

Sealed vs Sealed

That's the cat's meow! :)

11:55 AM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Kentucky Woman,

Well I'm not Fitz so we'll have to see it first hand.

Picture Houdini with shiny shoes!


11:57 AM  
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12:00 PM  
Anonymous t said...

Geffy, Fitz the big cat heehee das funny:-D

Fitz you're the cats meow:-)

From USA Today McPaper-Pelosi hints at denying Bush Iraq funds

I won't drop hints Dubya, I'll be blunt-read my lips "NO MORE taxpayer dollars for your war"

Kathleen, some of us (like me) just wait around for SPB to explain it all in a few paragraphs:-)

Rumors saying the reserve military will not show up for more deployments to Iraq-don't be too sure its just a rumor heehee Won't be a darn thing Dubya can do about it with congress, public and military on the same side. Cussing them out probably won't make them go, either ha

12:01 PM  
Blogger jan said...

I bet Rove is immunized and that's why he his lawyer said Fitz said Rove was no longer a target.

But then, what do I know ;)

12:12 PM  
Anonymous naschkatze said...

I just saw a related piece on Raw Story. The CIA make block the publication of Valerie Plame's book or not allow her to mention that she was an employee of the CIA.

12:34 PM  
Anonymous t said...

Jan, I wonder if Rover was given a proffer instead of immunized. I think maybe Ari Fleisher could have gotten immunity. It was obvious to me he knew he was not telling the truth in his press conferences - and then he got married and didn't like lying in front of his honey haha

Find law To Proffer Or Not To Proffer? White Collar Crime

Why would you ever want to proffer? Because, and only because: 1) you have exposure; 2) indictment is a foregone conclusion if you don't work out a plea deal or immunity agreement; 3) you want a plea deal or immunity agreement; and, 4) the prosecutor will not give you either without first hearing your proffer. Even in this scenario, as noted above, proffering is a high-risk venture.

12:47 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Well, I read that Ari Fleisher was the immunized one....

This is for you,Mr.Fitzgerald:
The nurse is in. If you'd like, I could put some truth serum in my superhumanly powerful syringe and "immunize" Mr. Libby. Or if you have any other witnesses in need of "immunity", just send them to my office. BTW, be sure and get your flu shot.

12:48 PM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

Yeah, I read Ari, too.

Ari is somehow going to say he knows how confused Libby was?

The defense is "I didn't know I lied because I was so overwhelmed with the daily affairs of BushCo."'

Cheney will come and say, "Oh, yeah, I buried the goon in work..."

However Novak said Armitage NEVER called him or gave him the time of day, until this one OUTING...

They can't unbungle this.

Armitage and Libby.

Who's the witness who gets immunity?

Has to be Cheney.

Who else is guilty?

What's immunity?

What does it mean?

Anyone know exactly?

1:14 PM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

We only know of one witness, Cheney. Right?

1:16 PM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

Don't get any flu shots.
Get the flu.

In the 1918 pandemic, the only perople who survived the more virulent first round were the ones who got the less virulent first round.

Besides. There are 80 bahzillion flu viruses. They don't necessary make the vaccine for the one you're going to get.

It makes no sense to get a flu vaccine. For people with Lyme disease, getting the flu boosts the immune system and gives you a short reprieve from Lyme, due to the fever.

You can believe me because I am BigPharma

1:18 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

If the discussion is still about what might be wrong with the posted notice by Libby. I wonder why 108 about the expert testimony was addressed when their will be done. Then it nevers says a word about 2.29 false/inconsistent statement. One would think that would be at the heart of the charges. But if one doesn't want to be found guilty again on paper maybe that's why that was left out. At this point its down hill for Libby so this might mean something when it comes to his appeal for the guilty finding. While sitting in jail he can say he didn't get good legal services or advice.

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

The ones who survived the more virulent SECOND round, survived if they got sick with the less virulent FIRST round in the Spanish flu pandemic.

I said that wrong before.

1:20 PM  
Anonymous Kathleen M. Dickson said...

I looked up Jencks, I think they mean the FBI "experts."


If the witness has immunity and he is also the "expert," then they can throw it out, according to Jencks.

Unless I'm more dain-bramaged than I know.

1:23 PM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

My vote....Sealed vs Sealed. I still think Rove is one of the "sealed"!

Kathleen....it isn't brain damage, it's lawyerspeak....designed to confuse lay folks!

1:32 PM  
Anonymous t said...

My money is on that too, GMNUK;-)

Meant to tell you guys the military is laughing their butts off that a Navy guy was chosen to run a ground war...what WAS dubya thinking? Stand down AWOL fly boy! LOL

1:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If an immunized witness provides false testimony before a grand jury, the witness is subject to prosecution for perjury.

1:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet Cheney isn't sleeping at night and snoozing during the day more than ever.. over this! hehe

1:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No more blank checks for Bush!

Happy New Year Gerbil!!!


1:58 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

One might think this is alot like the following comments in reference to Jencks. Looks like the games are about to begin with the attorneys on each side positioning themselves to out smart or trick the other.

Professor Wigmore said it all when he wrote:
“The difference between getting the same facts from other
witnesses and from cross-examination is the difference
between slow-burning gunpowder and quick-flashing
dynamite; each does its own appointed work, but the one
bursts along its marked line only, the other rends in all

As the show begins the fact remains the same Libby lied be it to much work or the fact that he's a nice person doesn't allow in law for lying under oath. I wonder how the Harry Potter defence team will get around the fact that this forgetful Assistant to the Vice President so brilliantly wrote the speech to the United Nations for the Secretary of State defending the invasion of Iraq. Leaders around the world listen to the writing of not the famous military Secretary of State but the words of a man who says he can't remember. The detail for all those secret places Saddam was hiding the WMDs were outlined in print with Powell giving his word that all the information was correct with the speech of Scooter Libby in charge.

2:30 PM  
Anonymous t said...

Wow Jackie, Professor Wigmore did say it all:-) what a great analogy

S-Q thanks for posting that interview...I see Madame Speaker is listening to military families and the military. That's a very positive development. I think George is about to face a woman who sees right through him and will call him out on every bluff from this day forward. I look forward to watching and helping in any way I can:-D

2:49 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Will somebody please explain what all this means? I have a guess, but I'm sure I'm wrong.Any legal experts out there?

3:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening folks!

Happy Sunday!

I was up 2 am this morning reading this filing,

I know that this is piece is confusing to the bloggers. On the miscelleous points, Libby is basically saying: "I didn't lie with the intent to lie." In a nutshell, Libby's lawyer is trying to twist certain wordings regarding his charge for making false statements. If that is legal defense, our jails should be emptied. This is a very poor defense.

And what is interesting is on page 24, where it says:" You have heard the testimony that Mr. Libby and other witnesses spoke to reporters under various conditions such as "off record," "on background," and where one's comments are to attributed to a particular job title."

Yes, there is no problem for anyone to talk to a reporter "off record" and "on background." Again, Libby's lawyers are twisting this instruction.. It seems as though Libby feels that he can be able to attribute illegal information to whatever attributions that he wants and wherever he wants as long as that is attributed to a particular title.

Jencks Act is simply pulling the rabbit out of the hat. That is what defense as well as the prosecution is trying to do.


Good analysis! I watched Frontline on PBS on how Libby rewrote Powell's speech regarding the WMD and location. Libby may claim that he is just Cheney's assistant but Libby's actions around the timeline of this conspiracy to invade Iraq is a lot more than just being overwhelming with National Security issues and that is why Libby and Powell had differences back then. And lets’ not forget Richard Clarke and Libby butted heads. Cheney had an agenda and so did Libby.

The bottom line:

From the defense side: The defense has to convince all 12 jurors that Libby didn’t not lie to the investigators and to the grand jury beyond the reasonable doubt.

From the prosecution side: The government has to convince all 12 jurors that Libby did lie to the investigators and to the grand jury beyond the reasonable doubt.

This is not whether Libby intended to lie, or try to lie or forgotten to lie, etc.

IMHO, the defense’s instructions in the filing and some of the wordings that the defense wants to the jury is a waste of time.

3:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pass the weenies and the beer.

4:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"relevant to Sealed vs. Sealed?"

IMHO, I know that Fitz will be closely watching Big Dick Cheney and i know Mr. Chneey may be in one of those "sealed" document..


I don't think Rove is off the hook. He is not being charged as a leaker. But, I think that Fitz will be watchin each testimony from each maor player involved in this WH conspiracy and pull a rabbit out of the hat. Someone will slip..

And Grossman's testimony if called by the government will be interesting. Grossman told Libby about Valerie Wilson and yet in the defense's court filing in April 2006, Libby claims that he can't recall the conversation with Grossman.. Priceless...

4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A picture a thousand words.

January 6, 2007 -- Over 1000 people gathered in Nancy Pelosi's district, on Ocean Beach in San Francisco, to spell out the message "IMPEACH!" "America is a great country," said event organizer Brad Newsham, a local cab driver and author. "But President Bush has betrayed our faith. He mislead us into a disastrous war, and is trampling on our Constitution. He has to go. Now. I hope Nancy Pelosi is listening today."

5:02 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Thanks, SPB.

5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BAGHDAD, Iraq (Jan. 7) - Three U.S. airmen died Sunday in a car bombing in Baghdad - among at least 17 people killed in violence across Iraq as Iraqi troops launched a fresh battle to oust militias and pacify the capital.

Three U.S. Airmen Die in Baghdad Car Bombing

5:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is the defintion of Jencks Act:

A statute entitling a criminal defendant in a federal prosecution to discover any witness statement against him which is relevant to the witness's testimony and which is in the possession of the United States government. 18 U.S.C §3500.

The Defense just wants to know what the prosecution will pull as a surprise… I am curious if Fitz will call Scotty McFelon aka little buckeroo, Colin Powell, Armitage, Tweety Matthews, Walter Pincus, Robert Novak, and David Brooks amd whomever snuck through the backdoor of the WH.

5:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi CJ & SPB:

Those photos of those folks spelling out IMPEACH are worth printing and hanging on the wall! hehe

5:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, I forgot to mention Vivica Novak (no relation to Robert Novak) and the former publisher, currently a consultant, and friend of Joe Wilson who is still not identified testified once in 2004 before the grand jury empanelled by Fitzgerald for less than a half an hour In addition, the man said that the “White House was three blocks away from where he met him and Novak was walking away from the White House.”. He had conversation with Novak on the street on July 8, 2003. I wonder if both of these individuals will be called as government witnesses..

5:27 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

When you set up an investigation you get a totally picture of the actions of each person. It's like asking a person to identify a scene or every day actions. Then you get more specific and then down to deal tail. Libby's overpaid lawyers are not doing their jobs. Most casts no one really knows what the surprise is because it comes from a person who no one give much attention to or that person is never really relevant to anything or anybody. The rabbit is not really knowledgeable of the value of the information nor is the defense interested in doing a deep investigation since they already know their client is guilty of lying.
Now if SPB was Libby's attorney Fitz would have a harder time with this case. SPB would work it as if Libby were really innocent even knowing he's guilty as hell. That way all the little issues would be addressed and tackled. I guess Libby just wants an attorney would won Lawyer of the Year with the hopes that it impresses the jury enough as it does a Rock Star. To bad because he will go to jail as the lights go down on the Rock Star Lawyer.

5:41 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Hi, everybody. That was a cool protest in Frisco.
I wonder if Libby really thought he could graymail his way out of the case. Now that that isn't going to happen, his defense team is going to have to prepare for a court battle that they know they can't handle.I can't wait to see what happens.

5:53 PM  
Anonymous t said...

Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of the hat heehee I have no doubt that's what it will look like to Wells

Here's one for the prosecutors on the blog :-) thanks for the explanation SPB

Poor Bill Stickers

6:25 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...


You earned you pay for the month!

That picture of those folks at the beach spelling out the word Impeachment is Priceless!


I M P E A C H !

7:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jackie said "

To bad because he will go to jail as the lights go down on the Rock Star Lawyer. "

Does the lawyer care ? Do they get a bonus if they win ?
Fitz shouldn't be over confident , lawyers often convince juries guilty people are innocent .

Rock star will say something like .....this was an isolated event.

Cheney's an excellent poker face liar.

I looks to me as if they have already tried to play down any importance of Valerie's work.

What did they hire her to do anyway ?

And not just her work but her.

Ms. Plame uh Wilson...... Valerie what's her name...?..?

Does Scooter know what she was hired to do or does he know what any under cover persons do ?

Oh course he does. He just lapsed one time ......... normal lapse ...and remember all the other important stuff he was working on ? You don't ? Well's here's a list. Are you worn down and bored yet ?

Everyone forgets. He's human. Why is this woman plame , wilson , whatever her name is so important when Scooter was working on all this other stuff.......... that was so much more important ?

Scooter is more important than Valerie.

Or is national security more important than Scooter , Dick Cheney, Mel Sembler, etc.....

is it okay to break the rules ?

what is the job of the CIA? Do they have a mission? I read Bush wanted the CIA dismantled.

A little off topic ..... so the rule is changed regarding visitors to the whitehouse ? That's a secret log ?

7:05 PM  
Blogger Global Evildoer Fighter said...

Broken Promises from Democrats...

No Impeachment.

No New Investigation of 9/11.

No 5 day work week!

The Republi-crats are both one party..

What a scam!!


7:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Biloxi

Thanks for the great picture of the SF folks. Makes me homesick, as I spent time there many years ago, when I lived in Santa Cruz.

The nitty gritty stuff on the poquito cajones' case is interesting, and yes...confusing. From what I can see here he's going down. I substituted die for lie, so the defence would have to prove that he didn't not die, and the prosicution would have to prove that he did die. He is therefore dead? Oh well..that's why I'm a retired amtique dealer...lol

7:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I'll tellya watt....Hoyer gives me a pain where the sun don't shine.

7:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I was thinking the same thing about the beach too and I was thinking about all the fun down at the Wharf! Or, sailing at Sausalito! :)

7:21 PM  
Anonymous Stephen said...

Scooter and pals tread the Tigris:


What have they done?


7:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Happy Sunday to you also Fitz. Pretzels ! and I did keep up , it's not regular prepated mustard , it's fancy mustard ?

7:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I'll really be dating myself now, but that used to be a pretty zorch place.

Right near there used to be Playland at the Beach, with roller coaster & fun house.


7:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Who are the Independents running?

7:31 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

Anon 7:05
Your comments are confusing but I'll try to answer. A lawyer is paid win/lose. Fitz isn't over confident he's a professional. Part of a lawyers job is acting and being able to get a jury to believe his point of view. Cheney is behind this case of must of the cases that are being investigated. As I said earlier a lawyer will defend his client even when the client is guilty as hell. That's his job. As for poker faces well check out Vegas or NJ Casinos. It's really not that hard but it does take some work. Look for the person's weakness and that way you get your answers sometimes without asking. The legal system is great and the one case I wish I could have seen was with Thurgood Marshall addressing the Supreme Court. I read his remarks and they were brilliant. I look forward to Fitzgerald and his team as making history. I heard that students from all over the US try to see John Edwards cases. We have some great attorneys but this case is hard. These attorneys have to try to convince the jury that lying numerous times under oath is something that can happen to anyone. The words " I don't remember, I don't recall" aren't needed anymore just say I really didn't have the intentions of lying but I did. This will make case law as all future defendants will use it and current criminals will appeal their cases based on this case. I know Jack, Duke and Ney hope Libby wins. They will be able to get out of jail by just saying they didn't intend to lie before they lied under oath.

7:33 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

Anon 7:05
I was just thinking Meirs and other unemployed lawyers might want get clients to defend on the Libby I can lie but didn't mean to lie defense. Our jails are full and this way we can clear them out. Just think of it jails with no criminals. This would also help with the unemployment rate. It's big money in this stuff. Some lawyers might think big and do a class-action case by taking our once criminals case and sue for serving time in jail for a crime that wasn't a crime.

7:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


There was a Playland there? When did it close?

8:04 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

I have complete faith in Mr. Fitzgerald and the other US attorneys working on the case. I am 100% sure they would not be pursuing this if they did not feel that the evidence was damaging enough to convict. Remember, all these U.S attorneys are doing double duty on this case and on their regular fulltime caseloads. Sorry, Anon, but that argument won't fly.

8:05 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Happy Sunday,everybody.
Peace and love to all. No crabs, Anon is allergic. HeeHee.

8:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kathleen M. Dickson said...

Don't get any flu shots.
Get the flu.

Patrick, get neither of the above.

Big weekend, I have to crash for a while ....

8:16 PM  
Anonymous just another anon said...

FYI Calamity Jane, there are more than one anon on this blog.

More than you can count actually...


8:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S-Q said...

There was a Playland there? When did it close?
I think around 1960. It was across the street from the ocean and toward town from the wind mill...G:

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8:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Seriously, if I were Scooter's attorney, based on the facts of the case, I would have told Scooter to plea bargain with Fitz from the get go and not have a trail since I now that Libby's part in this conspiracy was a lot more than just perjury. I would have had him plead guilty and get probation and house arrest (remember Libby is charged with obstruction of justice and lying). Ms. Martha Stewart was changed with 4 counts of obstruction of justice and lying to the investigators. Also, he would be barred 5 years of practicing law in the U.S. and overseas. I would have taken in consideratiojn of Libby's civil duty and no criminal records. If the investigation was on a WH conspiracy and Libby was charged with co-conspiring to plot to discredit Wilson, I would have ask Libby to plead guilty and ask for immunity in exchange to testify against Cheney, Rove, and the President. I am sure that Libby is involved in much deeper crimes than just the leak case.. And I know that with Libby's deep involvement the WH crimes that he can't exposed Cheney, Rove, Bush and anyone else. But, nevertheless, Libby should have pleabargained with Fitz from the get go.

8:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Glad you like the picture of the people making the impeachment sign. It is still on the minds of people. And since San Franscisco is anti-Gerbil and anti-Arnie, You wonder why the Gerbil doesn't do speech in San Fransisco? Beleive me that city will be following and followup and holding Pelosi accountable...

8:24 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

I know that.That was a joke. HeeHee. Silly Anon.

8:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


If Dubya speaks in San Francisco, he better not unpack his bags, and do it from the steps of Airforce 1. I doubt that there are many people in the area that would qualify for being an audience...G;

8:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jackie says "

Look for the person's weakness and that way you get your answers sometimes without asking."

Jackie, isn't that how a jury selection works ?

If you always tell the truth you won't have to worry about being caught in a lie.

Many professionals are over confident. All lawyers are considered professionals if they have license. Or bar permit or whatever you call it.

I didn't say Fitz was over confident.

I hope he anticipates every lie ( confusions of facts ) Libby's lawyers will tell to get his guilty ass off.

Valerie , should be happy she is still alive.

Jackie, who told you they don't get a bonus ? Some honest law professor ?

8:52 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

The people have spoken, Ms Pelosi. We dumped the tea in the harbor. Stop Libbyfooting around and do the will of the people who elected you.

8:54 PM  
Anonymous t said...

From Newsmax...Media Seek Audio From 'Scooter' Libby Leak Trial

Fifteen news organizations and five other groups are asking a federal judge to release audio recordings each day in the upcoming criminal trial of Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff.

"If there were ever a case where release of audio recordings is unlikely to have any impact on the proceedings - other than the beneficial one of more fully informing the public - it is this one," lawyers for the news organizations stated.

The organizations are ABC, The Associated Press, Bloomberg News, CNN, CBS, Dow Jones, E.W. Scripps, the Hearst Corp., the Los Angeles Times, the McClatchey Co., NBC, National Public Radio, USA Today, the Washington Post, the American Society of Newspaper Editors, the Newspaper Association of America, the Radio-Television News Directors Association, the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and the Society of Professional Journalists.

Hmm, wonder what team Fitz thinks of this

9:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


With your brains, you should be representing Scooter...


9:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


That city hates the Gerbil. I think that San Francisco will be the pioneer city to demand impeachment since Pelosi represented that city. They will be more critical of Pelosi...

9:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Calamity Jane is really a turd!


9:26 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Coming from you that's a compliment.
I know who you are. You can't hide your personality with an Anon name.

9:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Calamity Jane doesn't know anything!

That's the real sad joke!

9:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what's Fitz going to call Ms. Plame for the trial

Ms. Plame
Miss Plame
Mrs. Wilson
Mrs. Plame Wilson
Valerie Wilson
Valerie Plame
Agent Plame
CIA Agent Valerie Plame ?

what's the rock star going to call her THAT WOMAN ?

What's Dick Cheney going to call her ?

9:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And what are you going to call Dick Cheney?

President Cheney?
Richie Rich?


Good night! Biloxi out!

10:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CJ, I'm not the anons above-Fitz must be getting ready to crack it open soon because that's when the trolls come out. I think its their way of jeering when the batters up- they can't sleep.

Keep an eye on them while your working nights:-) G'Night

10:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon at 10:03

The "trolls" as you call them are always around. Doesn't have nothing to do with Fitzgerald's case.

It's just the Calamity Jane blogger is so arrogant and irritating.

10:20 PM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

I'm very interested to see what Ari has to say on the stand...maybe some surprises

The Libby trial may be limited in scope, but I think Fitzie has his eye on the larger picture.

It would be great if they could get authorization for an audio feed of the trial.

Go team Fitzie!!!

10:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fitz , we downloaded your Santa pic from the net . real cute ! and sexiest santa of the year . Paris is now an expert !

10:37 PM  
Blogger Night Owl said...

T--good catch on the Navy guy and the military! Wow, that speaks volumes on how much they really had to dig and dig to find a Yes Man.

BTW--For you folks opposed to an increase of troops sent to Iraq, it is not enough if the Democrats cut funding to the military (which they may not do anyway because that could make it hard on the troops who are already stuck there). Remember, some of the same people who were responsible for Iran-Contra are still running around. When Congress cut funding to aid the Contras in Nicaragua, some folks at the Pentagon got 'creative' with finding their own funding.

I bet these folks would do it again, too, to support the troop surge that Bush wants, although who knows how because they might be a little more careful about it this time. Then again, too many of these folks today keep making big mistakes. They seem less professional than who Reagan had on staff. Anyway, for anyone opposed to the troop surge that Bush wants, contact your elected officials and ask for legislation such as a limit to the number of troops in Iraq instead of a funding cut. Money can be moved around secretively very easily no matter what Congress does. But it is a lot harder for something like Iran-Contra to take place through moving 10,000 people around secretively under the nose of Congress.

The troop surge is not about what is safe for Iraq or peace, it is all about by 2008, Iraq could look more like a victory and if so, then the approval rating goes back up and the Republicans get voted back in office.

Contacting elected officials should be done concisely, clearly, professionally, and spelling out what action the official should take without any fluff. Aids read messages from constituents and it gets sorted: 1. Worthy of more attention or 2. The Kook piles, poorly written crap for or against a certain issue. Things that go into the Kook piles (that is not the official name obviously) are merely counted, e.g. 1,000 letters against the war in Iraq, nothing more.

11:30 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Ok, this is for the Anon @ 9:26 pm,9:53 pm, and 10:20pm.

I want to apologize for what I said earlier. You can say what you want about me, but I have to sleep at night.( Except tonight because I'm at work.)Anyway, I am very sorry. Also, by your comments I can tell that you really don't know the real me at all. Alot of what I say on here is tongue in cheek. I also know alot more than you give me credit for.

11:47 PM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

I will be watching the trolls at night. What a life.

I want to extend that apology to all my fellow bloggers. I really do say alot of tongue in cheek things.I can see where people would get the wrong idea.After all, there's no eye contact or body language in blogging. I just like to not be so serious about life sometimes.But I believe in owning my own behavior.So,I'm sorry. Peace and love to all.That includes you,too,Anon.

12:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I want to extend that apology to all my fellow bloggers.

No need to, Calamity!

1:09 AM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Thanks, Stephanie. That means alot to me.

5:02 AM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

Top o' the mornin' all.......I wonder how much of an impact upcoming hearings by the Dems will have on the upcoming Scotter-Patooter trial???? My guess is that there will be much more damning evidence, dovetailed with the prosecution of this case to give the American public a true picture of the depths this corrupt, arrogant administration will go to advance their agenda.

The Special Prosecutor will be wearing suits with many sleeves!

Nancy Pelosi WILL NOT be recommending impeachment. She had to take it off the table. This does not mean that Michigan's own Rep. Conyers won't ignore her instructions. He has been making waves about impeachment for well over a year. Her position as Speaker places her in the position of looking like an opportunist if she proceeds with recommending impeachment. The Repubs would roast her on an open pit with BBQ sauce!

t....Oh, yeah, no generals so he went for an admiral. What if there were no admirals? Vice-Admirals, Captains, Commanders....there's a pretty long list. My understanding, however, is that Admiral Fallon is a brilliant strategist! Talk about betting the farm, though!

Have a great day, all!

8:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

calamity is a real piece of work.

8:57 AM  
Anonymous e said...

Top of the mornin'

today is a happy Monday for us...we go to the feed store to buy our Duck and Squirrel food in 50# bags....no more small wally world bags for us....
we now have the march of the ducks every morning and afternoon to feed..a few crows mixed in too....

the cardinals and finchs eat off the deck rail...

our creek behind the house brings us a bounty of foul....
what a wwonderful world we enjoy...
just wanted to share our joy....

9:07 AM  
Anonymous t said...

Good Morning JB's and Friends,

Will we get audio of the libby trial, do you think?

Ditto Stephanie-this is the place for tongue-in-cheek CJ;-P

Jan keep us posted on what is happening there in Austin, that doesn't sound too good...Austin is a nice place, btw I like Texas, even though dubya does too haha

Fallon may be a great strategist, and here's a course for him-get your boats Adm. Fallon and load 'em up with our kids and bring them home. I'll send him the Yahoo map to find his way back heehee

Hi NightOwl, wondered where ya been...and yeah, they may find other ways to fund their illegal war (and what better way than illegal loot) but that will just be yet another count on the indictment.
So I say go for it, dubya and cronies-that won't stop us from pressuring the "reps" to cut off the 'legal' cash flow. As far as it hurting our soldiers there-I wonder how much difference will it make with parents already sending them food and (clean) bottled water? Entire battalions last year with no ammo, coming through the desert-I mean, what the heck? It would appear they were abandoned by Uncle Sam already...

Look for another state to sue to keep (and return) its national
guard ! Grounds: National security risk. Can't touch that dubya

E, sounds lovely- any pictures? :-)

paperwork paperwork, bbl...

9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those Anons are really smart and perceptive people.

10:22 AM  
Anonymous t said...

JB's are on your side, even if the shills at the WSJ are not, Fitz

Today's Wall Street Journal has an editorial demanding that Plame Name Blame Game prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald disclose the affidavits he used to justify compelling the testimony of two reporters about their conversations with I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who Fitzgerald will bring to trial on perjury charges later this month. The WSJ is right, but it misses a more important disclosure that should be compelled of Fitzgerald and the Justice Department.

Every criminal case that is originated by a federal agency other than the Justice Department begins with what is called a "criminal referral." This memorandum - written to Justice by a senior official (usually the general counsel) of another agency - asserts that a crime has been committed, the basis for the assertion and may also name one or more suspects. In the Libby case, the CIA sent the criminal referral to Justice and it was rejected at least once. Only after then-CIA Director Tenet called the Attorney General and insisted was the investigation launched.
Gee, who do you suppose rejected it at Justice? Gonzo? Didn't Ashcroft recuse himself after he read it?

10:29 AM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

t....that's a good point about the admiral loading up our kids and bring them home. I didn't think of that. I just think that the (p)resident doesn't think that way!

11:05 AM  
Blogger calamityjane said...

Hi, t, grandmanuk.
Thanks, t.
Have a good day all.

11:13 AM  

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