Jan 28, 2007

Ari Fleischer And The Pea..?

"So what makes the immunity deal for Ari unusual are several things:

1) PatFitz unhappily bought a "pig in a poke"

2) He says he does not have any discovery material to turn over with regard to Ari's testimony. Prior statements of witnesses (even if contained in interview notes) have to be turned over to the defense as Rule 3500 material. It sounds like no material was turned over. Since Pat has never been known to cheat, that can only mean that they didn't even take notes???????

Maybe I have lost my mind or am just high from WAY too much popcorn, but I think that this means that Team Fitz gambled that Ari had something huge to tell. The fact that whatever it is that PatFitz is saying he does not have to turn over to the defense even exists, to the extent it may exist, suggests to me that the investigation is not over and that maybe, just maybe, that gamble has paid off.

Please understand, this is ONLY tea leaf reading, but no other explanation suggests itself that accounts for all factors. I think maybe there is something out there, that came from Ari, that is NOT part of the proof relating to the crimes Libby is charged with (does this also explain why Libby's charges were so narrowly drawn?) that Team Libby is dying to know about and Pat is fighting hard to keep a secret. If it was all going to be over after the Libby trial, why fight so hard to keep this info secret? Why say that defense lawyers ask questions to try to find out things they are not supposed to find out?" <

Just doing my job in this case - "to investigate and prosecute violations of any federal criminal laws related to the underlying alleged unauthorized disclosure, as well as federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, [his] investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses."

Lot's of great clues in here - United States Court of Appeals - where I could not manage the message/filing as well as Cheney does Meet the Press. ;)


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looseheadprop needs to get a hobby other than pining after Fitz. She made some really thoughtless comment in her post about Comey and Fitz being more like siblings than they are with their own brothers. She doesn't apparently know either of their histories or she wouldn't have been so hurtful (the story re: Comey is too long to go in to ... but suffice it to say LHP needs to STFU).

Let's start a dating service for the divorced LHP so she can leave her Fitzing behind.

1:27 PM  
Anonymous teak said...

Good gawd, I thought that Looseheadprop was a man too over there. (Sorry again, SPB)

I'm too dumb to read all that but you did answer a question from me long ago that other crimes discovered in the course of investigating who leaked Valerie's name you could bring to justice too.

Oh, I hope and pray it is so.

1:36 PM  
Blogger jan said...

Who's out there
Not sexless, It's an awesome man

You're damned right

Who is the man
That would risk his life for his brother man

If you dig it

Who's the cop that won't cop out
When there's danger all about

Right on

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"to investigate and prosecute violations of any federal criminal laws related to the underlying alleged unauthorized disclosure, as well as federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, [his] investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses."
This will be interesting..especially destruction of evidence and intimidation of witnesses.. hmmm.. get ready for truth and jutice to prevail! :)

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


truth and justice :)

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What’s more...charges under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act... currently off the table for lack of evidence might become viable.

Yes, lots of interesting clues in that .pdf file. I've just gotten to the meat of it which seems to begin on pp. 74/75. Ari remembers Libby telling him about Joe and Valerie on July 7th.

2:11 PM  
Blogger Patrick J. Fitzgerald said...

@2:11 good eye - I have been trying to post a screenshot of that for the last 30 minutes, but blogger is not up for the task at this moment.

2:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger is not up to alot of things. Including stealing people's pictures.

Bad Blogger.

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Peter Max said...

Fitz, turn yourself in!

2:32 PM  
Blogger Nan said...

ooh - good stuff!

For anyone interested, Marcy and Jane H are being interviewed NOW at:

Air America Phoenix Interview with Marcy & Jane


2:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will someone please arrest Blogger?


So annoying....

2:47 PM  
Anonymous teak said...

Aww, be thankful you know how to make the bad blogger steal pictures.

Thanks for the clues, 2:11P and Mr. Fitz.

2:55 PM  
Anonymous Blogger/2:11 said...

Even more detrimental to Libby's case:

In the information presented in your .pdf document, Libby tells Ari the information is "hush-hush," indicating that he knew it was classified.

3:07 PM  
Blogger jan said...

Well, that sure is something...

3:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: Page 80 of pdf doc.

Regarding the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, the Special Counsel refers to Plame "as a person whose identity the CIA was making specific efforts to conceal and who had carried out covert work overseas within the last 5 years"

What a conspiracy to commit treason! Fitzie bring them all down!

3:36 PM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

"conversation, charges under the Intelligence Identities
Protection Act, 50 U.S.C. § 421, currently off the table for lack
of evidence (see 8/27/04 Aff. at 28 & n.15), might become

Skimmed quickly, but this is what stuck out for me...

3:51 PM  
Blogger Quzi Formerly CC said...

I didn't see that someone else had posted this already...

3:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing says "tell" like saying it is "hush-hush".

4:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pdf file does give a lot of clues into proofing that Libby lied about knowing Valerie Plame's identity. The bottom line is that the defense is afraid of Ari as the gov't witness. And I did read that Wells is askinf Walton to demand from Fitz what Ari is getting in return of his testimony. Fitz stated that there was no deal with Ari. This is nothing more than a chessgame with Fitz and Wells. Each player is trying to figure out the opponent's next move. Wells is focusing more on Ari as the person as the witness that will ruin Libby's defense. Since Fitz has 6 wintess that have immunity, we don't know if Ari is that person that will be the deep throat in the case. It could one of the 6 witness and maybe it may not be them. But, what if the person who is the deep throat that blows Libby's defense and case is a person that not granted immunity. You never know. I know that Fitz has a surprise up his sleeve to the defense. Rest assured that Ari's lunch meeting with Libby is damaging to the defense. I would check the receipt of Libby (since he pays cash) to see if he did an expense report on his lunch meeting with Ari.

4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just keep your eye on the timeline.

4:20 PM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

FDL's tiara?...Did Christy borrow it from Ms. Jackie? Looks like anon@2:11 might be in the running for it....or at least a cookie! I was wondering how long it would take to go in that direction......Good ol' PJF, slowly grinding out the truth!


4:22 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

Note to all being questioned by grand jury just tell the truth. If you lie you will be charged. Yes people do things by mistake like Ari and others but they didn't lie when asked. Wells will have to object to all who leaked the CIA's name but unlike Ted's client Libby they didn't lie. Remember this has been an on going investigation so with the truth the Prosecutor was able to move on with the Libby's told it make it hard to get to the truth.
Let's look at it from the beginning. If all that were questioned had told the truth but leaked the name by mistake without intent to do harm well the case would be closed. Now let's talk civil case that's a hold different scale of justice. Each person employed by the government who broke the contract by leaking the name will have to deal with those charges. Remember folks no one is above the law not even the President of the United States.

7:01 PM  
Anonymous Stephen said...

This is getting delicious. There's doubltless a hierarchy of secrets of various magnitudes about to be outed, and popcorn investments are up.

I am very greatful to those officers of the court representing the People. Thank you for bringing law and order back to the highest places. Today, the knot is moving from my stomach to the Neo Con's due to your very professional skills.

The other day, Mr. Cheney commented on the current state of his office and appeared quite aggressively defensive, even cocky, several times allowing his dispicable snarl to express and, for my two cents, again short out his composure.

Face it, an Agnew moment would lower global blood pressure, and send Energy Task Force attendees scurrying for the jungles of Borneo.

Please allow me:


Have a great week and thanks again.

3:41 PM  

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