Mar 6, 2006

Cess Happens...

The S.C. better ready their fans and gas masks.

S.D. Governor Signs Abortion Ban Into Law

32 Comments:

Blogger Kit Neill said...

This should have been settled decades ago. Depriving a woman of reproductive freedom is denying equal opportunity. Are we really back to "barefoot and pregnant" mentality?
Some people are so sanctimonious about other people's morals they forget that it's unjust to kill people in an unjust war.
And why don't they resolve the tragic problem of American children that go to bed hungry? Wouldn't their moralistic stance be better served by protecting children we have rather than ones we don't?
Yes, abortion should be rare, but it should even more be safe and legal.

4:02 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

Wow,

Taking the rights of women? You are right. Better get a gas mask because this will certainly be a war in that state!

4:06 PM  
Blogger Patrick J. Fitzgerald said...

Well said, Kit.

4:10 PM  
Anonymous 6 Miles Corruption Surrounds Us said...

ahem. ahem.
? getting sanctimonious about other people's morals? and those that are corrupt have the power to do so? do this to women?
God Save Us, we're back at the coat hangers...

... hello we have Corruption in the White House, Administration, Congress and the Presidential Line of Succession...

ahem ...? who's backing this jackass from SD in the White House, in the Oval, in the Administration?

Its the linchpin the far-right has been looking for .. that churlish Ralph Reed, who's best buddy is Abramoff and Delay.. he backing this Governor ..

as we all know, you always, always have a
WING MAN. Who is the WING MAN here?

4:28 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

So many uneccessary deaths before women gotten their rights and now more deaths to come. When will we learn? Women rights are part of the makeup for civil rights. And now we return to history where all rights of the American people will be taken away. A woman has a right to her body her choice and that again women will have to fight for. I am glad to see that Fitz you truly understand the rights of women.

4:32 PM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

Maybe their next move in SD will be to
pass a resolution making Christianity
the state religion? Then they can
secede with Missouri!

This frontal assault on Roe.. have a feeling that it won't fly. Remember
Justice Alito thinks that chipping away is less confrontational that a direct assault and more likely successful.

Kit, you're right on. You did forget about the far right and their
opposite view of capital punishment.
Never could figure that out! If you're supposedly for life, how are
your opposed to it. My son in DC saw a great bumper sticker "VOLDEMORT VOTES REPUBLICAN"! Love it.

4:40 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

You are right. We are slowly going back in history. All the struggles for equal rights, women rights, gay rights, disability rights, rights for immigrants in this country etc. that people have fought for will all go for nothing if we revert back. What a shame that the Bush Administration would chip away those rights of American citizens. We lost a pioneer such as Coretta Scott King? What would she say about this?

You are right Kit, Jackie, and 6 miles. Depriving and dictating any human being's freedom, opportunity, and rights of race, creed, and religion in this country is not right. Those priniciples are what made United States.

4:41 PM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

I want one, too! (bumper sticker)

4:41 PM  
Blogger Special Prosecutor Biloxi said...

Last comments: People need to read and understand the Declaration of Independence and what is means. People have taken for granted the sacrifice of the Founding Fathers that they had to face and endure to write the Declaration of Independence. It is wasn't for the Founding Fathers who wrote the Declaration of Independence, none of us on the blog would not have the freedom, opportunities, and rights as U.S. citizens. When people understand and realize what the Declaration of Independence stood for, then people will realize what freedoms are being taken away from them. If not, than we will become the countries that Bush is demanding they become democratic!

4:48 PM  
Anonymous cjt said...

This is timely with the S.C's ruling last week that right to life groups are no longer to be prosecuted under RICO.

Think of this event in S. Dakota as similar in strategy to Pat Robertson's grass roots efforts after his failed comical WH run 2 decades ago. The election of many his type into school boards and local civic positions had a profound effect that snowballed into the Christians Rights strong affectations felt today.

It's a similar whittling away process on this issue in SD now too.

5:16 PM  
Anonymous cjt said...

A case in point to the above:

Tom Feeney, US House FL, while still in the FL House as Speaker presented a bill to create a data base of all FL women who have had an abortion or who had sought one.
Needless to say it did not go down well on that one but this shows the audacity of these types and their considerations for privacy rights.

A choir boy of the Christian Right and a growing star tied closely with Jack Abramoff also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Feeney

5:31 PM  
Blogger waterflake said...

It’s not just about women’s right but about the unwanted kids.

Those people are hypocrites, they fuss about the wellbeing of the unborn but once the children are born, unwanted, unloved they’re deserted by the very same people who advocated their right to live. It’s like saying: We helped you into this world now it’s up to you to survive foster homes, poverty, abuse, poor education…it’s up to you to proof evolutions law of the right for the fittest to survive.

Governments need to take better care of the kids that are here already and give them a fair chance and support single mothers, maybe than fewer women would actually resort to abortion.

5:45 PM  
Anonymous 6 Miles from the Corrupt Oval said...

waterflake

well said. . . seems to me, this Administration has been working 'overtime' to cut benefits to those most in need and

need I say it?

K A T R I N A

their handling of those in dire need is nothing short of absolute vileness

5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Kit but we are not back to the "barefoot and pregnant" mentality. How many of us have known women who have gone thru an abortion without experiencing the psychological ramifications of their actions? There is a huge problem in our country of unwanted children. I saw a BBC documentary on Mother Teresa who was interviewed in an orphanage in Calcutta. The journalist wanted to know her opinion on unwanted pregnancies. She held up a baby in her arms and responded "what are you afraid of?".

Well said. Women need to take charge of their reproductive health by not getting themselves into a potential situation that an unwanted pregnancy may occur to begin with. Then their would be no abortion fight at all if women (most) would be more responsible. They need to rely more on themselves than that of their partner (this of course not counting victims of sexual assaults, etc).

And their are alot of good couples (and even single people) who would be great parents and would love to adopt a child but cannot due to strict adoption laws (thus why they go international on adoption).

5:58 PM  
Anonymous 6 Miles. said...

Anon
I vehemently disagree.

You need a license to drive a car, you need to be licensed to be a plumber...

any one can be a parent.

does not mean they will be a good one.

not every one is 'good in the heart' as we've seen from the very actions in the Oval on KATRINA.

Men and women BOTH SHARE responsibility. To say its the
women's sole responsibility, you most certainly have taken us back to
Barefoot and Pregnant.

6:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many of us have known women who have gone thru an abortion without experiencing the psychological ramifications of their actions?

I know more who are relived than not. The ones who have long term problems are far and few between and usually had a few problems to begin with. Sorry, but its the truth.

Since only the womans life is directly and immediatly effected, she and only she should have the final say.

As someone who has worked with juveniles, I can tell you prisons are filled with the unwanted, begated by the unwanted.

I say take care of the ones already breathing air first and make birth control readily available for all.

6:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe we should all be happy that the abortion issue never applied directly to us. Otherwise we wouldn't be here today.

6:43 PM  
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8:18 PM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

I am not a proponent of abortion as a means of birth control. However, to
cut off the avenue of safe abortion to
those who choose this option, seems to
like returning to the dark ages. Once again this administration is eliminating our rights.

8:19 PM  
Anonymous e said...

Question ..Do you think their brood will fly anywhere in the world they need to go for an abortion if they need one?

8:31 PM  
Anonymous cjt said...

E,

Interesting as I was just thinking of a family friend who was a very active and vocal member of the right to life protest crowd...until she had her own abortion of convenience...reality is often harsh.

9:10 PM  
Blogger Jackie said...

Ladies this matter is one that is an private matter between you and God. I'm just afraid that women will die because they are scared. Most of our laws change when important people have that problem with their children. In time we will here of elected officials who send their daughter to Canada or overseas for an abortion. Only girls who don't have money. We will here about who's daughter went to Canada for a safe abortion while thousands of girls here in the US die. All have to answer for all sins but we must still have a choice.

9:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think it should ever be birth control, only that birth control be made readily accessible making as Clinton used to say, "safe and rare".

Every child a wanted child-that is a true gift a parent can give their baby. p

10:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Jackie and Anon 10:12 pm.
Well said.

12:08 AM  
Blogger bluewild said...

I think this thing has been well-planned and organized by this administration. They've been setting it up for awhile. The whole Harriet Miers debacle was a ploy to get Alito in because he would have been rejected if Harriet had never been there. And you can't tell me that this South Dakota Governor just got the timing down on his own without the support of lots o' money and power behind him. I think this was in the works a long time before, as are many things that are a'comin'.

The Dubai sale could never have happened a year or 2 ago, but now, you'll see, in a month or 2 most people unfortunately will be swayed or lose interest. It's a methodical planned chipping away at the democracy to benefit those in power now and set the stage for their ensured power and gain.

I suspect it really is going to take some kind of uprising to save our democracy. What kind of uprising? I hope a powerful and peaceful uprising. It will take people of incredible courage and ethics and true morality. It will take intelligence and love, and people willing to die for it.

Isn't it ironic that our courageous soldiers are being asked fight a war based on lies , and to sacrifice their lives to create a democracy in Iraq , while here at home those same lies are being used to chop away at our own democracy and our sacred Constitution. It's twisted and convoluted and unbeleivable. And that's why they have been getting away with it.

1:36 AM  
Anonymous kel said...

What about the fact you can't even have an abortion if you are raped?
As a parent and woman no sir I do not want a child like this -
That is "my choice"..

Also I watched a show about adoption last evening - and the impact it has on the "birth mother"..

Well - the choice should never be taken away.
Harder restrictions sure.. wait periods, sure, consent, sure.. abolished? no..

Blue Wild I agree people in this country have a small memory.
So what that the people who attacked us on 9/11 were funded with Arab, Oil money.
Not Iraq, every detail about this President is crazy and he gets away with things every single day, and we "forget".

6:28 AM  
Blogger Contessa37 said...

As a Catholic, I am prolife, however I believe a women in this country should have the right to make a decision whether if she chooses to takes her pregnancy to term. Therefore, just because I am prolife it doesn't mean that I should impose my views on this topic to others.

It is up to the woman, each woman has different set of circumstances. Also, I do not advocate abortion as a means to birth control.

7:27 AM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

The Bush definition of democracy is becoming just like their "Clean Skies
Act"....the exact opposite of the original meaning. What a bunch! Call
it one thing, but mean the opposite.

11:30 AM  
Blogger GrandmaNuk said...

On a personal note with respect to adoption, my son and his wife were unable to have their own child. When the decision was made to adopt a child
they found the detriments to adopting
in the US to be so significant, that
they opted to adopt from Russia. Their main objection was that the birth mother's rights supercede the rights of the adoptive parent(s), requiring many adopted children be returned to the mother that gave him/her up in the first place. In other countries this was not the case. Once a child is left at an orphanage in Europe or Eastern Europe, the birth mother has given up all rights to the child.

Basically, we encourage women to have these children and not abort, but then make it impossible to adopt without the guarantee that you will be able to keep an otherwise "unwanted" child.

12:35 PM  
Blogger SpaceCommand said...

Take us back some years ago when the States decided this issue in their terrain. A man could earn enough to support a wife at home with the children. Now the woman can if she chooses abort the child and earn enough to equal together what they used to earn.

Gloria Steinem founded MS Magazine with funds from the CIA, just Google that if you think that is outrageous and weed out the red herring sites.

The objective was to break up the family and produce an exaggerated adversarial assumption about regular families. We have been fed the line that all men behave such and such, and all women are "victims." Naturally the outgrowth of this is the "benevolent State," a myth which serves no one.

As to abortion, what do I think? I do not think it is a good idea, as people seem to go overboard with it. We are missing 50 million kids you know, and who can really say they were all "unwanted?"

Excuse me for all this compassion, go have your "free choice," all you want, and when the courts decide, I am sure it will continue the mess we have here, one way or another. You know if it is really choice, you can keep the kid can you not?

11:40 PM  
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