I Don't Belong...
to any politcal party.Poll: Third Party Could Win In '08
April 27, 2006--"Democrats currently hold a 12-point advantage over Republicans on a generic 2008 Presidential ballot. However, a third-party candidate focusing on immigration enforcement issues could fundamentally alter those political dynamics.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national opinion survey finds that 44% of Americans say they would vote for a Democrat if the Presidential Election were held today. Just 32% would vote for a Republican. Those figures are likely a reflection of unhappiness with the Bush Administration rather than a commentary on prospective candidates from either party (see crosstabs).
The survey also asked respondents how they would vote if "a third party candidate ran in 2008 and promised to build a barrier along the Mexican border and make enforcement of immigration law his top priority.
With that option, support fell sharply for both major parties. The Democrats still come out on top with support from 31% of Americans. The third party candidate moved into a virtual tie at 30% while the GOP fell to 21%." [more]
Is anyone curious to know how I feel about illegal immigration enforcement?
posted by Patrick J. Fitzgerald at 4/27/2006
23 Comments:
I am with Gov Dean on this issue-tell us Fitz, what is your view?
Yes me too I'd like to know.
Yes, please tell us. Since I am in Arizona, this is very important to me!
Fitz I have another thought first before you tell us what you think.
Post that question to us bloggers first that way people can say what they really think and not just agree with you. Please!!!
I think that this will be third party since quite of number of American people have a distaste and distrust for Democrats and GOP. Independent party is on the rise. Even the T.V. show "Commander-in Chief" gives the viewers a taste of an Independent woman President in the U.S. Now your question on what you think about the immigration issue? I am sure that you have some few choice words about this issue and what King Gerbil's approach on this sensitive issue since your parents are Irish decents. I don't think that will give your OP-ED on this blog about that issue. But, then again, you may surprise all of us!
Jackie, you are both sweet and cunning so I am compelled to heed your advice. ;)
Yes, do tell....
HELL YEAH BRING ON THE THIRD PARTY!!!!
I want that fat crook in the Senate Pat Roberts gone!
I want this fat crook INDICTED for his Abramoff involvement Fitzgerald, and then we throw his hyde out and replace it with a third party candidate.
Indict Pat Roberts!!!!
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Folks,
Here is followup to an article about an member of tbe Gerbil Administration bailing out from the Small Business Administration. Here is the new replacement and this person is in corporate with no experience!
From Thinkprogress:
Bush Picks SVP of Multibillion-Dollar Firm to Head Small Business Administration
"President Bush this week nominated Steven Preston as the new SBA head, continuing his legacy of appointing individuals to oversee agencies they will try to destroy. Preston “does not have experience running a small business,” and currently serves as a senior vice president of a “multibillion-dollar corporation” called ServiceMaster which is known for bullying small businesses:
[Preston’s] resume shows he has no experience as an entrepreneur and comes from a company with a reputation as a bully among some small-business owners.
“The small-business community’s been fighting ServiceMaster for years,” says Harry Alford, president and chief executive of the National Black Chamber of Commerce. Alford says ServiceMaster was active — and successful — in getting the government to cap the small-business set-asides in the lawn-care industry.
Thankfully for him, Preston has the one job qualification that matters: he is a self-described “committed” partisan and “Bush loyalist.”
Folks, follow the dots! The Gerbil is appointed corporate buddies for financial gain!
As you may already know, I am the son of legal immigrants from Ireland. I am also a U.S. Attorney sworn to uphold and enforce our nation's laws. Also, I prosecuted Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman and 11 others for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and some of them were in the U.S. illegally...sorry the AG is on line one - I will explain my position on here later...
In the meantime, tell me your solutions?
Mr. Fitzgerald,
We need a strict monitoring program for illegal immigrants.
http://www.maryschneider.us
Do you see what happened to Mary Schneider!?? That type of thing need never happen again.
Now maybe they don't have to go instantly to jail, but they do need to be removed. Anyone who is a mullah/israeli other individual who does not have permanent citizenship, who does not have a background check, should not be allowed in the states.
After all, by not enforcing this we allowed certain so called "terrorism" to take place all for the sake of profits. (Drug money, blackmarket arms, the works...)
So in other words, I propose a special ID number system or computer database which tracks all illegals. Those who are no good, and the businesses that hire them, should just be reprimanded/removed.
The rest, can go through a long-term but fair citizenship program to prove that they are true residents of this country.
And then the likes of Sandy Berger, or Mala Ashiek could not just live in the USA or any place whenever they wanted to.
This place is far too much like an open feeding house, too many people with ill intentions all of a sudden "showing up here" and not saying what they're here for....
Okay, I will give my opinion on the illegal immigrants since this is a hot topic in the news and the blog. Many of the immigrants legally or illegally have come to the United States for two reasons: freedom and opportunity. I have friends who have gone to college who have parents and relatives are immigrants that came to the America for those reasons. Now, President Bush has made this issue such a hot topic in America. Bush tends to forget the many African-Americans born in this country who have ancestors that were brought over as slaves to America. They were not "invited" to America. They were taken from their native country: Africa. He needs to re-read black history. Now, Bush doesn't understand that immigrants don't mean just Mexicans from the border. We are talking about Irish, African-American, Chinese, Japanese, Taiwan, Iraq, Iran, and so on in this country. Bush, basically, attacked the whole melting pot that has shaped this country. Also, Bush doesn't understand that it was the Hispanic community that got Bush into the office not once but twice! It is okay for Bush to use the Hispanics for vote but stab them in the back and brand them immigrants. This is certainly a political agenda for the Gerbil and a sensitive issue in America. But, this issue certainly brought all ethnicities together to lock arms and fight this issue. And this one issue as sensitive issue as it is may be the issue to drive the American people to the polls to want the Gerbil removed. American people have seen the church and state separated the separate and equal Congress and Senate and now a division of the melting pot and ethnic culture driven by the Gerbil and company. We are divided country: political party, financially, morally, and now through culture thanks to mess by the Administration!
I relate my answer to how this country was founded. Our land was owned by the indians. As this United States developed many people from many countries came to the new world. Every American that came here has a story. Some came willingly others came by force. Yet to this day we were born on this soil. For other 30 years our boarders were open to immigrates for cheap labor and jobs that Americans had grown out of. The fields use to be fulled with slaves and most hard labor was done by slaves/immigrates and done well. Each part of America has a history of a far away country. We have to remember our past to deal with today. We should allow the families to live here and set up a system for special the current immigrates. Close the boarders for all not just spanish. Get a departement to do background checks and time limits/with employment records. Follow the new listed immigrates that they continue to follow the rules of this country by paying their fair share. If anyone does fall short he/she will have to leave and their families will have to go back with them. We have to realize we didn't stop this for years and it is more our fault then theirs. Our country says we're open and welcome people to the US for freedom. Either your open or closed. I don't think anyone should get a free ride but set up a system to follow with the new problem. I for one will never be a slave in this country my great-great-grand parents paid that price. Well welcome those who choose to pick our veggies and do the field work. Without their help which one of us would go backward in this the land of the free. I'm a big fan of free and equal rights I guess I was born with those ideals and respect that for others.
Thats it Fitz and I'm to old to change.
Fitz:
As you are well aware, truckloads of people are being brought across the border, by "Coyotes" and then put into a house, sometimes as many as 150 per house. They stay there until
employers hire them or they "create" their own jobs...trimming palm trees, landscaping, painting houses, etc.
I can recognize those that are illegals, they get a scared look on their face- if you look them in the eye- and then they hang their heads down and will NOT speak to you!
The solution is first of all, to crack down on the borders! Then, secondly, go after those employers who are hiring them, knowing they illegals.
I would like to see them come into this country legally and be able to get jobs legally. They are hard workers and they have the right for a better life!
"I have never been a member of an organized political party. I have been a democrat all my life."
Will Rogers
"False kings and false prophets do more for keeping crime alive than bankrobbers, embezzlers, or any organized mafia. Politicians help some, too."
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Fitz, please zip it until we speak since we have a bidding war going on between our supporters - labor unions vs. hispanic groups and until it is complete we aren't sure where we stand yet.
Dr. Dean,
You should not be taking money all the time from out of control foreign lobbies like AIPAC.
I do not respect any of these decisions because now all the USA policies are backwards, this is not the USA of israel or any other country.
By the way, I expect real change on the immigration issue. The third party will have to fill the void if thats the case.
Sorry to get involved in an -inside the US- discussion but I believe all "western countries" to face the same problems.
The trouble is some immigrants come to western countries just to get the benefit of the better life but without the intention to contribute to it thus making it worse for everybody and tearing down the quality of life in the countries they come too.
Your government has to make sure they come to the US because they feel love for your way of life and will integrate
In Germany we had lot's of Turkish workers coming into the country in the 70's. They brought their families and now they're approx. 2Million. Now it's the 3th Generation, most are born here, they have a German passport but ask them and they'll say I'm Turkish.
They don's speak German, have their own Shops, Clubs, Schools, Sport facilities. Their girls are force married and we just recently had a brother killing his sister because she filed for a divorce.
It's called honor killing and it's not the way we like to live in Germany but those immigrants don't respect our country. The came here because it's a better life and take any advantage they could!
The Lesson from it? Immigration should be a careful, selective process as Social Engeneering can have a huge impact on future generations.
The process should be fair, there're many people applying for green cards and are turned down but as "s-q" put it truckloads are passing the border illegaly. Letting them get away with it gives the wrong signal.
Sort of:
"doing it the illegal way is the only way"
I think we could have an adopt-an-immigrant family or person program -social progams could be developed to benifit the immigrant and the Sponsor family..and they could learn all types of work while maybe helping in nursing homes..child care..etc.I have had nothing but good experiences with the ones I know..I had a young man from Brazil live with me and help me with my handicapped husband..I firmly belive that posive deeds help all ..he worked in the service industry..he had been promised a chance to go to school plus paid an attorney to get his green card...as time passed I realized that the people ivolved in bringing these people were not sincere ..I and a friend persuaded him to pay to take the the TOLFUL sp?? test for a University near by ..he got cold feet but when he found out he would not get a refund even if he did not take it ..he decided to go ahead and got the highest score of any student ever from Brazil in that University.. His bedroom had been my computer room and he had total access to the Computer for his work.. ..we had a lot of wonderful times together and I learned all about his foods..He now has a PHD
I don't know what the rules should be, but I do believe we should treat law abiding, working, immigrants with respect.
The border issue to me is not just about illegal aliens it is about American security for the future. We must somehow find a way to allow those who truly desire a better life and to become Americans an easier way, while stopping terrorists, the sex trade underground, the criminals and the drugs. A tall order but America can and must find a solution to this growing problem.
Along the lines of the social programs "e" mentioned, would it be possible to offer incentives to employers to help them make their employees legal? Offer English classes, offer citizenship classes, offer the other things that will help people who want to stay here. But somehow make it worthwhile to the employer to do that. (Busting the employer who doesn't is one incentive, of course ...) That way, the employers still have labor, but the laborers get what they need to stay here.
Thank God for the Minutemen!
Congress can not and will not do shit.
"It's no fun being an illegal alien."
Phil Collins
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